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geralt wrote:
Karikiram, ali je poenta da su granice RS vojno neodbranjive.
Nemoj me pogresno shvatiti, nisam nikakav ratnohuskac i ne mislim da ni ja niti moja djeca ucestvujemo u bilo kakvom buducem sukobu. Na Dodikovo trolovanje se ne treba uzbudjivati jer on blefira ne samo sa losim kartama, vec bez ikakvih karata u ruci.
nemas se covjece nikom nista pravdati.
tvoje je pravo da kazes da nisi za to da se na novi pokusaj zatiranja traga bosnjaka u nekim sljedecim djelovima BiH odgovori kako se odgovaralo zadnjih 100 godina.
a naravno njihovo je pravo da te nagovaraju da je za tebe najbolje da ti se desi ono sto se dogodilo bosnjacima foce 1942. i 1992.
kad smo vec kod airsofta nije na odmet reci da su ti airsoft klubovi trn u oku, pripadnicima ideologije zatiranja tragova bosnjacima, velicine namjenske industrije.
ne tako davno smo imali pokusaj diskreditacije tih klubova u bosnjaka.
najveci problem ne nesrazmjerno veliki broj tih klubova kod bosnjaka u poredjenjeu na ostale u regionu i njihova ogromna aktivnost.
155_mm wrote:kad smo vec kod airsofta nije na odmet reci da su ti airsoft klubovi trn u oku, pripadnicima ideologije zatiranja tragova bosnjacima, velicine namjenske industrije.
ne tako davno smo imali pokusaj diskreditacije tih klubova u bosnjaka.
najveci problem ne nesrazmjerno veliki broj tih klubova kod bosnjaka u poredjenjeu na ostale u regionu i njihova ogromna aktivnost.
u tusu u lukavici,tokom poslijepodneva,vidjena 2 pripadnika osbih.sa sve zastavom vartinom i obiljezjima bih.jedan kupio sijalice i neki keks(tops na akciji?).drugi isao nako.
p.s. specijalcima cetaljima ni traga.neka pm 72 provjeri izjutra,zlu ne trebalo.ja cu ponovo navece.
155_mm wrote:kad smo vec kod airsofta nije na odmet reci da su ti airsoft klubovi trn u oku, pripadnicima ideologije zatiranja tragova bosnjacima, velicine namjenske industrije.
ne tako davno smo imali pokusaj diskreditacije tih klubova u bosnjaka.
najveci problem ne nesrazmjerno veliki broj tih klubova kod bosnjaka u poredjenjeu na ostale u regionu i njihova ogromna aktivnost.
U pravu si,jebena je ona obojena kuglica kad te zvekne,ispadaš iz igre i moraš raji platit' piće.Igraš Call of duty,pokupiš se s rajom,iznajmiš odjela i puške pa udri.Ko "pogine" plaća piće. Srbi su se tačno usrali od broja klubova jer su to sve potencijalni Vikićevi specijalci...
155_mm wrote:kad smo vec kod airsofta nije na odmet reci da su ti airsoft klubovi trn u oku, pripadnicima ideologije zatiranja tragova bosnjacima, velicine namjenske industrije.
ne tako davno smo imali pokusaj diskreditacije tih klubova u bosnjaka.
najveci problem ne nesrazmjerno veliki broj tih klubova kod bosnjaka u poredjenjeu na ostale u regionu i njihova ogromna aktivnost.
U pravu si,jebena je ona obojena kuglica kad te zvekne,ispadaš iz igre i moraš raji platit' piće.Igraš Call of duty,pokupiš se s rajom,iznajmiš odjela i puške pa udri.Ko "pogine" plaća piće. Srbi su se tačno usrali od broja klubova jer su to sve potencijalni Vikićevi specijalci...
155_mm wrote:kad smo vec kod airsofta nije na odmet reci da su ti airsoft klubovi trn u oku, pripadnicima ideologije zatiranja tragova bosnjacima, velicine namjenske industrije.
ne tako davno smo imali pokusaj diskreditacije tih klubova u bosnjaka.
najveci problem ne nesrazmjerno veliki broj tih klubova kod bosnjaka u poredjenjeu na ostale u regionu i njihova ogromna aktivnost.
U pravu si,jebena je ona obojena kuglica kad te zvekne,ispadaš iz igre i moraš raji platit' piće.Igraš Call of duty,pokupiš se s rajom,iznajmiš odjela i puške pa udri.Ko "pogine" plaća piće. Srbi su se tačno usrali od broja klubova jer su to sve potencijalni Vikićevi specijalci...
Nije to bas toliko naivno.
U pravu si Fudo,jeben je rikošet od one kuglice,more ti svu facu obojit u plavo jal zeleno.Valja se poslije očistit.
Airsoft Atlanta is one of the oldest airsoft suppliers of police training equipment for law enforcement agencies. We handle agencies on a national level with federal, military, and local police departments.
Airsoft technology is used in military training and law enforcement training. Due to airsoft's realism, relatively safe projectiles, and economical ammunition, it is well-suited to war games and scenarios to train troops. Multiple airsoft inventions were developed originally for military and law enforcement use.
Marking rounds were invented by Kerry T. Bowden to allow trainees to see where each projectile landed. Much like paintball and simunitions, these marking pellets would break upon impact, marking the target with luminescent liquid. Unlike traditional plastic pellets, marking rounds are heavier to ensure breakage of the shell on impact. The weight can be adjusted by adding heavier liquid.[30] Marking rounds are critical for trainees because they allow the shooter to see exactly where they hit the target. This allows them to extrapolate their mistakes and improve their aim.
Reusable grenades were improved by Scott Frank to emulate the fragmentation of a real grenade in war games and scenarios. The grenade can be loaded with paint or pellets. It uses a quick release of highly pressurized gas to break the shell and quickly disperse pellets or paint in all directions. Frank's grenade, although not the first, aimed to be as realistic and predictable as an klix grenade. He developed a more accurate timing mechanism and secondary safety mechanisms to prevent accidental discharge.[31] Both marking rounds and reusable grenades gave airsoft the edge it needed to enter into military and law enforcement training grounds.
The airsoft guns used for training differ from civilian models. Guns manufactured for professional training are made to replicate the weight, feel and the sound of its real steel counterpart. In general, professional training airsoft guns are GBB models and enhanced with a weighted blowback mechanism to increase the force of the kick. Some are AEGs and are built with a blowback mechanism. They are also outfitted with muzzle protectors that amplify the sound to a decibel level comparable to that of a real firearm. The average FPS for professional training airsoft guns is higher than civilian models. Economically, airsoft is cheaper than simulation training. Benjamin Kratz, Fort Jackson's battalion executive officer, said that one blank M16 round can cost as much as 32 airsoft rounds.[32] With decreasing military and law enforcement budgets, airsoft can allow for more practice hours.
DrugaGimnazija wrote:
Bezveze se nadamo. Kontraplanovi ne postoje, kao sto nisu postojali ni 1991. A, planovi su razradjeni do detalja.
Mislim da smo opet potpuno nespremni (gledajuci na "rukovodstvo"). Dabooogda da neko ima razradjen kontraplan sta uraditi u ovoj situaciji koju je najavio Dodik.
Nespremni u vidu planova šta uraditi nakon prvih trzavica to je istina. Baš kao i oni.
Al' fazon je što mi uopšte ne moramo biti spremni poenta je da s ovom artiljerijom koju imamo trenutno i kad bi oni bili NA ISTIM MJESTIMA kao u ratu situacija bi bila drugacija mnooogo pa mi da smo imali artiljerije kako treba da tučemo njihove položaje davno bi se linije probile..
Da ne pricam da situacija nije ista i da bi Sarajevo bilo u napadu ovaj put..
Pa ti to uzmi kako hoces.
Garantujem ti da oni imaju detaljne planove za prve korake i sve dalje korake i da su ti planovi uskladjeni sa potezima Srbije, ukljucujuci i medjunarodno lobiranje i plasiranje laznih vijesti.
Mi, zauzvrat, nemamo ni planove za prvi korak. Nas ce sve to ponovo iznenaditi i opet cemo se naci u situaciji da smo 10 koraka iza. Samo zato sto smo u boljoj situaciji nego 1991, ne znaci da je prihvatljivo da se ne razradjuju ovi planovi.
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Soldiers test integration of popular civilian game into pre-deployment training
By Steve Reeves, Fort Jackson LeaderAugust 12, 2009
Soldiers with the 187th Ordnance Battalion prepare to clear a room during urban combat training at the battalion's field training site. The Soldiers are armed with Airsoft weapons as part of a pilot program, which, if successful, could be implemented throughout the Army.
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FORT JACKSON, S.C. -- What began as a popular form of civilian entertainment is being tested on Fort Jackson as a possible new way to train Soldiers preparing to head to a combat zone.
The 187th Ordnance Battalion is operating a pilot program designed to test the feasibility of using Airsoft weapons to train Soldiers to cope with real-world combat situations such as forward operating base operations and force protection.
Airsoft weapons are replicas of their military counterparts, but fire plastic pellets instead of bullets. Airsoft is widely used by civilians who enjoy organizing military simulations and historical reenactments.
Training cadre with the unit are finding that Airsoft is an ideal way to teach Soldiers valuable lessons about combat.
"It gives them more realistic, outcome-based training," said Sgt. 1st Class Richard Hunt, module chief for the battalion. "Now they know when they get hit during a training exercise."
The battalion has been using Airsoft weapons since the spring at its field training site where soldiers learn basic combat tactics in an urban environment. Like Hunt, all of the cadre at the FTX site are combat veterans. Hunt said the Airsoft weapons give the training another level of sophistication and realism that is hard to attain with other training tools such as the Multiple Integrated Laser Engagement System, which has been in use for years.
Soldiers at the site practice reflexive fire and other tactical skills while armed with replica M-4s, M-9s and M-249s, the weapons they most likely will use in combat. While practicing tactical movements, such as clearing rooms or exiting a vehicle in an ambush, the Soldiers come under fire from Airsoft weapons. The feedback is instant if a Soldier makes a mistake.
"I got hit and it stung a little bit," Pvt. Joshua Kolometz said after undergoing reflexive fire training. "This gives you a realistic feel of what combat will be like."
That's exactly what the Airsoft training program is intended to impart, said Company B's 1st Sgt. Chris Arnold. "This has a huge impact on training realism," Arnold said. "If you make a mistake during training, you know you've made a mistake."
Maj. Benjamin Kratz, the battalion's executive officer, said data is being collected on Fort Jackson's Airsoft pilot program so that it can be determined if it should be implemented Army wide.
Kratz said initial data shows that Airsoft ammunition is much cheaper to use in training than the traditional blank ammunition used with MILES or equipping weapons with specially-designed bolts to fire paintball rounds. Kratz said one blank M-16 round costs as much as 32 Airsoft rounds. The Airsoft rounds used on Fort Jackson are biodegradable, which is a benefit over using traditional blank rounds.
"We go through a lot of blank rounds here on Fort Jackson," Kratz said. "What the data doesn't show yet is how long the Airsoft weapons last and how much the replacement parts and other ongoing costs are."
Kratz said the Airsoft training so far has accomplished what was intended.
"This is the last stop before Soldiers go to their gaining units downrange," he said. "What they learn here will save lives."
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Soldiers test integration of popular civilian game into pre-deployment training
By Steve Reeves, Fort Jackson LeaderAugust 12, 2009
Soldiers with the 187th Ordnance Battalion prepare to clear a room during urban combat training at the battalion's field training site. The Soldiers are armed with Airsoft weapons as part of a pilot program, which, if successful, could be implemented throughout the Army.
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A Soldier with the 187th Ordnance Battalion participates in a reflexive fire drill at the battalion's field training site.
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SHOW CAPTION +
FORT JACKSON, S.C. -- What began as a popular form of civilian entertainment is being tested on Fort Jackson as a possible new way to train Soldiers preparing to head to a combat zone.
The 187th Ordnance Battalion is operating a pilot program designed to test the feasibility of using Airsoft weapons to train Soldiers to cope with real-world combat situations such as forward operating base operations and force protection.
Airsoft weapons are replicas of their military counterparts, but fire plastic pellets instead of bullets. Airsoft is widely used by civilians who enjoy organizing military simulations and historical reenactments.
Training cadre with the unit are finding that Airsoft is an ideal way to teach Soldiers valuable lessons about combat.
"It gives them more realistic, outcome-based training," said Sgt. 1st Class Richard Hunt, module chief for the battalion. "Now they know when they get hit during a training exercise."
The battalion has been using Airsoft weapons since the spring at its field training site where soldiers learn basic combat tactics in an urban environment. Like Hunt, all of the cadre at the FTX site are combat veterans. Hunt said the Airsoft weapons give the training another level of sophistication and realism that is hard to attain with other training tools such as the Multiple Integrated Laser Engagement System, which has been in use for years.
Soldiers at the site practice reflexive fire and other tactical skills while armed with replica M-4s, M-9s and M-249s, the weapons they most likely will use in combat. While practicing tactical movements, such as clearing rooms or exiting a vehicle in an ambush, the Soldiers come under fire from Airsoft weapons. The feedback is instant if a Soldier makes a mistake.
"I got hit and it stung a little bit," Pvt. Joshua Kolometz said after undergoing reflexive fire training. "This gives you a realistic feel of what combat will be like."
That's exactly what the Airsoft training program is intended to impart, said Company B's 1st Sgt. Chris Arnold. "This has a huge impact on training realism," Arnold said. "If you make a mistake during training, you know you've made a mistake."
Maj. Benjamin Kratz, the battalion's executive officer, said data is being collected on Fort Jackson's Airsoft pilot program so that it can be determined if it should be implemented Army wide.
Kratz said initial data shows that Airsoft ammunition is much cheaper to use in training than the traditional blank ammunition used with MILES or equipping weapons with specially-designed bolts to fire paintball rounds. Kratz said one blank M-16 round costs as much as 32 Airsoft rounds. The Airsoft rounds used on Fort Jackson are biodegradable, which is a benefit over using traditional blank rounds.
"We go through a lot of blank rounds here on Fort Jackson," Kratz said. "What the data doesn't show yet is how long the Airsoft weapons last and how much the replacement parts and other ongoing costs are."
Kratz said the Airsoft training so far has accomplished what was intended.
"This is the last stop before Soldiers go to their gaining units downrange," he said. "What they learn here will save lives."
