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Svemirski_Jebach wrote:znam vrlo dobro kako sam se osjecao u toj europi, i kako su me ljudi gledali jer sam stranac i to iz bosne. I dan danas, ovdje u americi, imam problema sa svedjanima ili holandjanima (koji su s mnom na faksu).

A sto se tice americke historije, dakako da tu ima svega (nekih vrlo sramotnih stvari) ali je cinjenica da je USA daleko bolja prema svima onima koji dodju u ovu zemlju nego svaka europska zemlja. Na kraju, najveca zla u povjesti covjecanstva ikad su stigla iz europe ne iz USA.

Ali, danas je ocigledno moderno blatiti ameriku, to je populisticki trend bez da se o istoj zna ista vise od onoga sto se prica po popularnim medijima i o popularnim temama.

A, a kada oni cuju tvoje prezime na ic ili slicno nase balkansko prezime, da li pomisle na tvoje strano porijeklo?

Australija je nastala od engleskih zatvorenika koje su tamo deportovali...a sta je bilo sa aboridzinima?


Svemirac,ne troshi energiju bez potrebe,jer Ameriku ne poznaju mnogi Bosanci koji zive u njoj,a najmanje oni koji su negdje u Evropi

.Guraj u svojoj zelji da budes prvi Bosanac u Americkom Kongresu,imas moju i svih normalnih Bosanaca podrsku.. :)

Jer "Muji" je mnogo lakse prihvatiti da mu je Suljo opalio Fatu,nego da je Suljo senator.. :-)
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A wrote:
Svemirski_Jebach wrote:jel ti mislis da su ropstvo i rasizam nastali u USA?

Je su li nacizam i fasizam nastali u americi?

Je li komunizam nastao u americi?

Je li kolonizacija nastala u Americi? itd

I posljednji izbori su pokazali da je americki politicki sistem prezivio i ovaj posljednji izazov. Vecina ljudi se opredijelila za promjene u vanjskoj politici, od iraka do pitanja izraela.

A sta cemo za to da u europi sve vise jacanju desnicarske stranke? Hocemo li vidjeti reprizu drugog svjetskog rata?
Ako je komunizam takvo zlo - onda bi ti trebalo biti drago da desnica jaca u Evropi. ;)

I ne, moje prezime na "ic" mi nije problem. Veci mi je problem kad neko od ovih ostalih "ic" ucestvujue u kolektivnom silovanju, u pljacki banke, itd. Onda mi bude malo nezgodno.
ne zelim porediti komunizam sa nacizmom, boze sacuvaj ipak su se prvi borili protiv drugih, samo navodim ove "neslobodne" ideologije :D
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Istorija Islama u USA
AMERICAN MUSLIM HISTORY

A chronological summary of some of the major events I found in relation of the Muslims' personal and political life in American history.

1178 A Chinese document known as the Sung Document records the voyage of Muslim sailors to a land known as Mu-Lan-pi (America).

1310 Abu Bakri (Abu Bakar), a Muslim king of the Malian Empire, spearheads a series of sea voyages to the New World.

1312 Mandinga, African Muslims, from Mali and other parts of West Africa arrive in the Gulf of Mexico for exploration of America's interior using the Mississippi River as their access rout.

1527 A Muslim from Morocco by the name of Estevanico of Azamor lands in Florida with the expedition of Panfilo de Narveaz and remains in America to become the first of three Americans to cross the continent in 1539.

1530 More than 30% of the estimated 10 million African slaves, uprooted from the areas of Fulas, "Fula Jallon", "Fula Toro", and "Massina" as well as other areas of "West Africa" governed from their capital "Timbuktu", that arrived in America during the slave trade of that time and sent to Mexico, Cuba, and South America were Muslims, they and became part of the backbone of the American economy of that period.

1732 A Muslim slave by the name of "Ayyub Bin Sulaiman Jallon" from "Boonda, Galumbo" is set free by James Oglethrope, the founder of Georgia, and provided transportation to England. In 1735, three years later, he arrived home.

1790 Moors from Spain are reported to be living in South Carolina and Florida

1807 An African Muslim by the name of Yarrow Mamout is set free in Washington DC, after the United States Congress prohibits the importation of slaves into America after January 1st, 1808, and later becomes one of the first shareholders of the Columbia Bank, the second charted bank in America. It is implemented that Yarrow may have lived to be more than 128 years old, the oldest person in American history.

1809 A Muslim by the name of "Omar ibn Said" is enslaved in Charleston, South Carolina, and imprisoned after running away. Later in prison he was visited by John Owen, who became later a Governor of North Carolina, and taken to Bladen County to be placed on the Owen plantation and it is reported that he lived to be 100 years old

1828 A slave by the name of "Abdulrahman Ibraheem Bin Sori", known to many "The Prince of the Slaves" because he was a former prince from West Africa, on a Georgia plantation is freed by the order of Secretary of State Henery Clay and President John Quincy Adams. A drawing of him by Henery Inman is displayed in the Library of Congress.

1839 “Sayyid Sa'id", ruler of Oman orders his ship "The Sultana" to set sail to America on a trade mission, reaching New York, April 30, 1840. And although the voyage was not a commercial success, it marks the point of Muslims successful friendly relations with America, which still continues to exist between many of the Islamic nations and the United States of today.

1856 The United States cavalry hire a Muslim by the name of "Hajji Ali" to experiment with raising camels in Arizona.

1865 During the American Civil War, the "scorched earth" policy of the North destroyed churches, farms schools, libraries, colleges and a great deal of other property. On the morning of April 4, when the Federal troops reached the campus of the University of Alabama with orders to destroy the university, "Andre’ Deloffre", a modern language professor and custodian of the "Rotunda library" at the university, appealed to the commanding officer, to spare one of the finest libraries in the south. The officer, being sympathetic, sent a courier to General Croxton at his headquarters in "Tuscaloosa" asking permission to save the library, but the general's reply was negative, so the officer reportedly said "I will save one volume as a memento of this occasion" and the volume selected was a rare copy of the Qur'an"

1889 A noted scholar and social activist by the name of Edward W. Blyden travels throughout the Eastern and Southern parts of the United States lecturing about Islam and in one of his speeches before the Colonization Society of Chicago he told his audience that the reasons Africans choose Islam over Christianity is that, "the Qur'an protected the black man from self-depreciation in the presence of Arabs or Europeans."

1893 "Mohammad Alexander Russel Webb", one of the earliest "White American Converts", founds the "American Islamic Propaganda Movement". And on September 20th and 21st, he appeared at the First World Congress of Religions and delivered two lectures: "The spirit of Islam," and "The Influence of Islam on Social Conditions."

1908 Muslim immigrants from the provinces of the Ottoman Empire, who are mainly Turks, Kurds, Albanians, and Arabs arrive in North America.

1913 "Timothy Drew" (Noble Drew Ali) establishes an organization in Newark, NJ, known as the "Moorish Science Temple of America" (MSTA), responsible for many of today's African-American converts to Islam, and who was reportedly commissioned by the Sultan of Morocco at that time to teach "Negroes" in the United States

1915 Albanian Muslims build a Masjid (Mosque) in Maine and establish one of the first associations for Muslims in the United States, and in 1919 they build another Masjid in Connecticut.

1920 The Red Crescent, a Muslim charity modeled after the International Red Cross, is established in Detroit.

1926 "Dues Muhammad Ali," mentor of "Marcus Gravey" and the person who had considerable impact on Gravey's movement, establishes an organization in Detroit known as the Universal Islamic Society. Its motto was "One God, One Imam, One klix."

1926 Polish-speaking Tatars build a mosque in Brooklyn New York.

1930 African-American Muslims build the "First Muslim Mosque" in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

1933 The organization of the Nation of Islam (NOI) is founded by "Fard Muhammad" or (Wallace Ford), a Muslim mystic who introduced its philosophy to the United States and disappeared in 1933. The late "Eli-jah Mohammed, succeeded Frad in 1933 and built the organization into a strong ethnic movement advocating Islam as a way of life. The NOI is one of the most well known organizations that had its prints on the history of United States, as well as the American Muslim history; it holds itself responsible for converting a high percentage of African-Americans to Islam and highlighting American Christians' difficulties combating the effects of slavery and racism among African-Americans. Two of the most famous African-Americans, "Muhammad Ali" and "Alhajj Malik al-Shabazz" (Malcolm X), were early adherents of this movement, but both later embraced the broader multiethnic concepts of orthodox Islam or mainstream Islam.

1934 The Lebanese community of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, opens its Masjid.

1939 "Sheik Dawood" founds the "Islamic Mission Society" in New York, which publishes a magazine entitled, "Muslim Sunrise".

1952 Muslims in the Armed Services sue the Federal Government to be allowed to identify themselves as Muslims. Until then Islam was not recognized as a legitimate religion.

1955 “Sheik Dawood Ahmed Faisal" establishes the "State Street Masjid" in New York City, which is still in use today and represents a special point in the development of the American Muslim community. And it is from this Masjid the "Dar-ul-Islam movement" was later born in 1962.

1960 The NOI's University of Islam schools flourishes drawing the attention of the American media, but the coverage focuses upon the "Black Muslims' self-help programs for Blacks" yet considers them a "threat" to the white establishment.

1962 The newspaper "Muhammad Speaks" is published by the Nation of Islam, which later on becomes the largest minority weekly publication in the United States reaching 800,000 readers at its peak. But it eventually underwent some name changes over the years, following the various transformations its publishers (NOI) underwent as well, such as "Bilalian News" (named after a famous black Muslim hero and scholar), the "A.M. Journal", and currently The Muslim Journal.

1963 Establishment of the "Muslim Students Association" (MSA), an organization to aid foreign Muslim students attending schools in the United States.

1965 The assassination of "Al-Haj Malik al-Shabazz" (Malcolm X), one of the most klix Muslims in American history as well as a dedicated fighter for justice and equality for African-Americans and other oppressed people, takes place in New York.

1968 "Hamas Abdul Khaalis" founds the "Hanfi Movement" in New York and builds the "Hanafi-Hab Center" there, but latter on moves to Washington DC His movement had a membership of more than 1000 and one of the first Muslims who first came into contact with Islam through this movement is "Kareem AbdulJabbar" the famous Lakers basketball player. But in 1977, Khaalis and some of his followers seized control of 3 buildings in D. C., holding hostages for more than 30 hours, one man was killed. Khaalis is now incarcerated in Washington DC and is serving a sentence of 41 to 120 years, marking a challenging period in American Muslim history.

1975 "Elijah Muhammad", the late leader of the Nation of Islam (NOI) dies and is succeeded by his son "Warith Deen Mohammed," who is regarded as one of the leading Muslim spokesmen in the United States of today and is credited disputing many of his father's ethnic beliefs and statements and for moving the organization toward the broader universal concepts of Islam.

1982 The "Islamic Society of North America" (ISNA) is established in Plainfield, Indiana, which is now the umbrella organization.

1986 "Dr. Isma'il R. al-Faruqi," the founder of the "American Muslim Social Scientists" organization and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, and his wife are murdered in their home outside Philadelphia. Dr. Faruqi and his wife are the authors of the Cultural Atlas of Islam and many other books. His murder was predicated without name by the president of Jewish Defence League one week before his death in the Village Voice, New York by claiming that within a week an outspoken Palestinian professor will be eliminated.

1987 Muslim Alert Network was established in Chicago to mobilize Muslim response to media and discrimination against Muslims. Later on the same concept was used to establish CAIR.

1990 Muslims hold the first solidarity conference called "Muslims Against Apartheid." This was the first conference of its kind in support of Muslims for the struggle against Apartheid in South Africa. The conference was organized by the American Muslim Council.

1991 Imam Siraj Wahhaj offers an invocation (opening prayer) to the United States House of Representatives. He was the first Muslims to do so.

1992 Imam Warith Deen Mohammed gives the invocation in the Senate.

1992 Bosnia Task Force, USA was established as an allience of ten national Muslim organizations in support of Bosnia.

1993 Bosnia Task Force, USA and National Organization of Women (NOW) organized joint demonstration in 100 cities in America against the rape of women in Bosnia.

1993 Bosnia Task Force, USA organized the largest rally to date by Muslim in favor of Bosnia in Washington DC attended by 50,000 Muslims

1994 Islamic Shura Council of North America was established choosing four of the largest participents of the Bosnia Task Force, USA

1995 Oaklahoma Bombing took place which launched a hate campaign agains Muslims in America

1996 Iftar-Dinner on Capitol Hill sponsored by American Muslim Council February 13 hosted by Senator Joseph I. Lieberman (D CT), Congressmen Nick J. Rahall (D W. VA), Dana Rohrabacher (R CA), Thomas M. Davis III (R VA), James P. Moran (D VA) and attended by ambassadors and representatives from most of the Muslim countries.
1996 The White house celebration of Eid Al-Fitr, February 20, 1996 by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton the first Eid celebration ever at the White House.

2000 Muslims endorsed Governer Bush for bloc vote who won in one the most narrow election in the history of the US.
Ono sto je interesatno je da ovaj momak, nije musliman rodjenjem - vec je konvert, i druga stvar interesatna je da je izabran iz Minnesote gdje tradicionalno nema mnogo muslimana. Neke statistike o broju dzamija u USA (Minesota nije ni na listi prvih 12 drzava, tj. ima manje od 20 dzamija):

States with the largest number of mosques:
California 214
New York 170
Texas 83
Florida 78
New Jersey 61
Illinois 56
Michigan 54
Ohio 47
Pennsylvania 47
North Carolina 32
Massachusetts 29
Maryland 26
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Svemirski_Jebach wrote:ma pusti ih, oni koji misle da im je europa veci prijatelj neka se sjete perioda 92-95.

A bojim se da je i danas rasizam mnogo jaci u europi, samo se vjesto krije.
Taj kongresmen ce poloziti zakletvu nad casnim Kuranom i to u sred Americkog Kongresa.

Potpisujem. Evropa je jedan od bastiona perfidnog, skrivenog i vrlo ucinkovitog rasizma. Svedska, Holandija, Svajcarska, Njemacka, Francuska......vode u tome. Interesantno da najveci evropski kriticari "rasizma" po Balkanu, Americi ili Aziji su zapravo zemlje u kojima netolernacija kljuca ispod fasada nekakvog kobajagi tolerantnog drustva.

Iskreno, ni arapski svijet nije dobar prema muslimanima. Kad pogledam Palestince...pricaju o pomoci njima, a nikad mi nista posteno ne daju. Kad je zapad uveo sankcije protiv Hamasa, umalo se sve nije raspalo :shock: Koliko ima bogatih arapskih zemalja, mogli su Palestinu u zlato okovati, a Izrael pojesti za rucak i diplomatski i vojno i novcano.
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Daj ba friki, sd ispade arapi moraju nosati trake oko ruke :D:D:D Niko koga ja znam nije nikada problema zbog imena ili izgleda :roll: A eto nek se u evropi ne desavaju slicni incidenti :roll:
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Daj ba friki, sd ispade arapi moraju nosati trake oko ruke :D:D:D Niko koga ja znam nije nikada problema zbog imena ili izgleda :roll: A eto nek se u evropi ne desavaju slicni incidenti :roll:
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DONY wrote:
Svemirski_Jebach wrote:znam vrlo dobro kako sam se osjecao u toj europi, i kako su me ljudi gledali jer sam stranac i to iz bosne. I dan danas, ovdje u americi, imam problema sa svedjanima ili holandjanima (koji su s mnom na faksu).

A sto se tice americke historije, dakako da tu ima svega (nekih vrlo sramotnih stvari) ali je cinjenica da je USA daleko bolja prema svima onima koji dodju u ovu zemlju nego svaka europska zemlja. Na kraju, najveca zla u povjesti covjecanstva ikad su stigla iz europe ne iz USA.

Ali, danas je ocigledno moderno blatiti ameriku, to je populisticki trend bez da se o istoj zna ista vise od onoga sto se prica po popularnim medijima i o popularnim temama.

A, a kada oni cuju tvoje prezime na ic ili slicno nase balkansko prezime, da li pomisle na tvoje strano porijeklo?

Australija je nastala od engleskih zatvorenika koje su tamo deportovali...a sta je bilo sa aboridzinima?


Svemirac,ne troshi energiju bez potrebe,jer Ameriku ne poznaju mnogi Bosanci koji zive u njoj,a najmanje oni koji su negdje u Evropi

.Guraj u svojoj zelji da budes prvi Bosanac u Americkom Kongresu,imas moju i svih normalnih Bosanaca podrsku.. :)

Jer "Muji" je mnogo lakse prihvatiti da mu je Suljo opalio Fatu,nego da je Suljo senator.. :-)
;) potpuno si u pravu. Nije da sam ja veliki poznavalac ali sam citao i razgovarao a ljudima koji znaju puno vise od mene.
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Desava se svasta u Evropi,to je cinjenica.

Ali, ono sto mene kod amerikanaca licno nervira nije rasizam (citav svijet me zbog toga nervira), vec njihova ignorancija.Trpaju se hamburgerima, procitaju jednu knjigu godisnje i misle da su centar svijeta.Imala sam priliku razgovarati sa mnogim amerikancima i postavljali su mi takva pitanja da ja nisam mogla da vjerujem.
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pitt wrote:Daj ba friki, sd ispade arapi moraju nosati trake oko ruke :D:D:D Niko koga ja znam nije nikada problema zbog imena ili izgleda :roll: A eto nek se u evropi ne desavaju slicni incidenti :roll:
nakon 9/11 je bilo par incidenata al su ljudi to brzo smirili. Za razliku od francuske ili holandije u kojima se ljudi snebivaju kada im se u komsiluk doseli bosanac, da ne kazem turcin.

Mozda ameri i ne znaju mnogo o bosni ali ti nece pristupiti kao nekome ko je nize vrijedan, nego kao jednakom. Samo je bitno koliko znas i koliko si sposoban.
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Do sada 650.000 mrtvih u Iraku!!! Halo bolan, je li to sto ti blago opisujes "izazovom"?

A zasto su se Ameri opredjelili za pomirenje? Moral im proradio? Jest, al' u zutom. Do sada ih je rat u Afganistanu i Iraku kostao 430 milijardi US$ !!! Kase prazne, budzetni deficit ih udavi.

Zivila sam ja u USA a i u vise evropskih zemalja - ne soli mi pamet majke ti. Lahko se nama preseravat kad smo "white", jer nama na celu ne pise, ni ko smo a ni odakle smo.
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Svemirski_Jebach wrote: nakon 9/11 je bilo par incidenata al su ljudi to brzo smirili. Za razliku od francuske ili holandije u kojima se ljudi snebivaju kada im se u komsiluk doseli bosanac, da ne kazem turcin.
:lol: Moju prijateljicu u Holandiji (koja je usput i muslimanka) napala bula u vozu.Kontala ova nesto protiv nje prica :roll: .Iscupala joj pramen kose i dobila 10 dana zatvora :-)
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dinchy84 wrote:Desava se svasta u Evropi,to je cinjenica.

Ali, ono sto mene kod amerikanaca licno nervira nije rasizam (citav svijet me zbog toga nervira), vec njihova ignorancija.Trpaju se hamburgerima, procitaju jednu knjigu godisnje i misle da su centar svijeta.Imala sam priliku razgovarati sa mnogim amerikancima i postavljali su mi takva pitanja da ja nisam mogla da vjerujem.
uz duzno postovanje, to je jedna od osnovnih predsrasuda koje se gaje prema amerikancima...

ovo je zemlja koja je stvarala i stvara najvece umove danasnjice, zemlja sa najboljim univerzitetima, najvise para koje se ulazu u nauku, zemlja u kojoj u smrdljivim gradovima imas dvije ili tri velike knjizare...

koliko to njiga procitaju bosanci?
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A wrote:
Svemirski_Jebach wrote:
DONY wrote:

Svemirac,ne troshi energiju bez potrebe,jer Ameriku ne poznaju mnogi Bosanci koji zive u njoj,a najmanje oni koji su negdje u Evropi

.Guraj u svojoj zelji da budes prvi Bosanac u Americkom Kongresu,imas moju i svih normalnih Bosanaca podrsku.. :)

Jer "Muji" je mnogo lakse prihvatiti da mu je Suljo opalio Fatu,nego da je Suljo senator.. :-)
;) potpuno si u pravu. Nije da sam ja veliki poznavalac ali sam citao i razgovarao a ljudima koji znaju puno vise od mene.
Prije nego sto cijela prica zavrsi zakljuckom "Zavidni Bosanci iz rasisticke Evrope mrze i blate Ameriku", da napomenem: tema je "prvi musliman u americkom kongresu, sto u rasistickoj Evropi nije moguce".

Nema razloga, vjeruj, SJ, da branis Ameriku od mene, ja sam samo dala primjer da stranac & musliman moze uspjeti u Evropi (jer je pocetna teza bila - da ne moze), i nista nisam rekla na tvoju novu domovinu.
ma nije to moja nova domovina. :D bar nije jos...nisam ja jos pitt il seha :D

nego mi je stalo da ljudima objasnim argumentima zasto nisu u pravu kada gaje onolike predrasude prema americi, i to samo zato sto je to danas popularno a nema veze sa realnoscu.
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Svemirski_Jebach wrote:
dinchy84 wrote:Desava se svasta u Evropi,to je cinjenica.

Ali, ono sto mene kod amerikanaca licno nervira nije rasizam (citav svijet me zbog toga nervira), vec njihova ignorancija.Trpaju se hamburgerima, procitaju jednu knjigu godisnje i misle da su centar svijeta.Imala sam priliku razgovarati sa mnogim amerikancima i postavljali su mi takva pitanja da ja nisam mogla da vjerujem.
uz duzno postovanje, to je jedna od osnovnih predsrasuda koje se gaje prema amerikancima...

ovo je zemlja koja je stvarala i stvara najvece umove danasnjice, zemlja sa najboljim univerzitetima, najvise para koje se ulazu u nauku, zemlja u kojoj u smrdljivim gradovima imas dvije ili tri velike knjizare...

koliko to njiga procitaju bosanci?
jest, a Oprah procita Anu Karenjinu i 300 ljudi u publici pada u nesvijest.

Ti zivis u urbanijem dijelu Amerike, ali Ameriku cini puno vise onih koji se uklapaju u ovaj opis koji sam ja napisala.
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Nosferatu wrote:Istorija Islama u USA
AMERICAN MUSLIM HISTORY

A chronological summary of some of the major events I found in relation of the Muslims' personal and political life in American history.

1178 A Chinese document known as the Sung Document records the voyage of Muslim sailors to a land known as Mu-Lan-pi (America).

1310 Abu Bakri (Abu Bakar), a Muslim king of the Malian Empire, spearheads a series of sea voyages to the New World.

1312 Mandinga, African Muslims, from Mali and other parts of West Africa arrive in the Gulf of Mexico for exploration of America's interior using the Mississippi River as their access rout.

1527 A Muslim from Morocco by the name of Estevanico of Azamor lands in Florida with the expedition of Panfilo de Narveaz and remains in America to become the first of three Americans to cross the continent in 1539.

1530 More than 30% of the estimated 10 million African slaves, uprooted from the areas of Fulas, "Fula Jallon", "Fula Toro", and "Massina" as well as other areas of "West Africa" governed from their capital "Timbuktu", that arrived in America during the slave trade of that time and sent to Mexico, Cuba, and South America were Muslims, they and became part of the backbone of the American economy of that period.

1732 A Muslim slave by the name of "Ayyub Bin Sulaiman Jallon" from "Boonda, Galumbo" is set free by James Oglethrope, the founder of Georgia, and provided transportation to England. In 1735, three years later, he arrived home.

1790 Moors from Spain are reported to be living in South Carolina and Florida

1807 An African Muslim by the name of Yarrow Mamout is set free in Washington DC, after the United States Congress prohibits the importation of slaves into America after January 1st, 1808, and later becomes one of the first shareholders of the Columbia Bank, the second charted bank in America. It is implemented that Yarrow may have lived to be more than 128 years old, the oldest person in American history.

1809 A Muslim by the name of "Omar ibn Said" is enslaved in Charleston, South Carolina, and imprisoned after running away. Later in prison he was visited by John Owen, who became later a Governor of North Carolina, and taken to Bladen County to be placed on the Owen plantation and it is reported that he lived to be 100 years old

1828 A slave by the name of "Abdulrahman Ibraheem Bin Sori", known to many "The Prince of the Slaves" because he was a former prince from West Africa, on a Georgia plantation is freed by the order of Secretary of State Henery Clay and President John Quincy Adams. A drawing of him by Henery Inman is displayed in the Library of Congress.

1839 “Sayyid Sa'id", ruler of Oman orders his ship "The Sultana" to set sail to America on a trade mission, reaching New York, April 30, 1840. And although the voyage was not a commercial success, it marks the point of Muslims successful friendly relations with America, which still continues to exist between many of the Islamic nations and the United States of today.

1856 The United States cavalry hire a Muslim by the name of "Hajji Ali" to experiment with raising camels in Arizona.

1865 During the American Civil War, the "scorched earth" policy of the North destroyed churches, farms schools, libraries, colleges and a great deal of other property. On the morning of April 4, when the Federal troops reached the campus of the University of Alabama with orders to destroy the university, "Andre’ Deloffre", a modern language professor and custodian of the "Rotunda library" at the university, appealed to the commanding officer, to spare one of the finest libraries in the south. The officer, being sympathetic, sent a courier to General Croxton at his headquarters in "Tuscaloosa" asking permission to save the library, but the general's reply was negative, so the officer reportedly said "I will save one volume as a memento of this occasion" and the volume selected was a rare copy of the Qur'an"

1889 A noted scholar and social activist by the name of Edward W. Blyden travels throughout the Eastern and Southern parts of the United States lecturing about Islam and in one of his speeches before the Colonization Society of Chicago he told his audience that the reasons Africans choose Islam over Christianity is that, "the Qur'an protected the black man from self-depreciation in the presence of Arabs or Europeans."

1893 "Mohammad Alexander Russel Webb", one of the earliest "White American Converts", founds the "American Islamic Propaganda Movement". And on September 20th and 21st, he appeared at the First World Congress of Religions and delivered two lectures: "The spirit of Islam," and "The Influence of Islam on Social Conditions."

1908 Muslim immigrants from the provinces of the Ottoman Empire, who are mainly Turks, Kurds, Albanians, and Arabs arrive in North America.

1913 "Timothy Drew" (Noble Drew Ali) establishes an organization in Newark, NJ, known as the "Moorish Science Temple of America" (MSTA), responsible for many of today's African-American converts to Islam, and who was reportedly commissioned by the Sultan of Morocco at that time to teach "Negroes" in the United States

1915 Albanian Muslims build a Masjid (Mosque) in Maine and establish one of the first associations for Muslims in the United States, and in 1919 they build another Masjid in Connecticut.

1920 The Red Crescent, a Muslim charity modeled after the International Red Cross, is established in Detroit.

1926 "Dues Muhammad Ali," mentor of "Marcus Gravey" and the person who had considerable impact on Gravey's movement, establishes an organization in Detroit known as the Universal Islamic Society. Its motto was "One God, One Imam, One klix."

1926 Polish-speaking Tatars build a mosque in Brooklyn New York.

1930 African-American Muslims build the "First Muslim Mosque" in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

1933 The organization of the Nation of Islam (NOI) is founded by "Fard Muhammad" or (Wallace Ford), a Muslim mystic who introduced its philosophy to the United States and disappeared in 1933. The late "Eli-jah Mohammed, succeeded Frad in 1933 and built the organization into a strong ethnic movement advocating Islam as a way of life. The NOI is one of the most well known organizations that had its prints on the history of United States, as well as the American Muslim history; it holds itself responsible for converting a high percentage of African-Americans to Islam and highlighting American Christians' difficulties combating the effects of slavery and racism among African-Americans. Two of the most famous African-Americans, "Muhammad Ali" and "Alhajj Malik al-Shabazz" (Malcolm X), were early adherents of this movement, but both later embraced the broader multiethnic concepts of orthodox Islam or mainstream Islam.

1934 The Lebanese community of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, opens its Masjid.

1939 "Sheik Dawood" founds the "Islamic Mission Society" in New York, which publishes a magazine entitled, "Muslim Sunrise".

1952 Muslims in the Armed Services sue the Federal Government to be allowed to identify themselves as Muslims. Until then Islam was not recognized as a legitimate religion.

1955 “Sheik Dawood Ahmed Faisal" establishes the "State Street Masjid" in New York City, which is still in use today and represents a special point in the development of the American Muslim community. And it is from this Masjid the "Dar-ul-Islam movement" was later born in 1962.

1960 The NOI's University of Islam schools flourishes drawing the attention of the American media, but the coverage focuses upon the "Black Muslims' self-help programs for Blacks" yet considers them a "threat" to the white establishment.

1962 The newspaper "Muhammad Speaks" is published by the Nation of Islam, which later on becomes the largest minority weekly publication in the United States reaching 800,000 readers at its peak. But it eventually underwent some name changes over the years, following the various transformations its publishers (NOI) underwent as well, such as "Bilalian News" (named after a famous black Muslim hero and scholar), the "A.M. Journal", and currently The Muslim Journal.

1963 Establishment of the "Muslim Students Association" (MSA), an organization to aid foreign Muslim students attending schools in the United States.

1965 The assassination of "Al-Haj Malik al-Shabazz" (Malcolm X), one of the most klix Muslims in American history as well as a dedicated fighter for justice and equality for African-Americans and other oppressed people, takes place in New York.

1968 "Hamas Abdul Khaalis" founds the "Hanfi Movement" in New York and builds the "Hanafi-Hab Center" there, but latter on moves to Washington DC His movement had a membership of more than 1000 and one of the first Muslims who first came into contact with Islam through this movement is "Kareem AbdulJabbar" the famous Lakers basketball player. But in 1977, Khaalis and some of his followers seized control of 3 buildings in D. C., holding hostages for more than 30 hours, one man was killed. Khaalis is now incarcerated in Washington DC and is serving a sentence of 41 to 120 years, marking a challenging period in American Muslim history.

1975 "Elijah Muhammad", the late leader of the Nation of Islam (NOI) dies and is succeeded by his son "Warith Deen Mohammed," who is regarded as one of the leading Muslim spokesmen in the United States of today and is credited disputing many of his father's ethnic beliefs and statements and for moving the organization toward the broader universal concepts of Islam.

1982 The "Islamic Society of North America" (ISNA) is established in Plainfield, Indiana, which is now the umbrella organization.

1986 "Dr. Isma'il R. al-Faruqi," the founder of the "American Muslim Social Scientists" organization and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, and his wife are murdered in their home outside Philadelphia. Dr. Faruqi and his wife are the authors of the Cultural Atlas of Islam and many other books. His murder was predicated without name by the president of Jewish Defence League one week before his death in the Village Voice, New York by claiming that within a week an outspoken Palestinian professor will be eliminated.

1987 Muslim Alert Network was established in Chicago to mobilize Muslim response to media and discrimination against Muslims. Later on the same concept was used to establish CAIR.

1990 Muslims hold the first solidarity conference called "Muslims Against Apartheid." This was the first conference of its kind in support of Muslims for the struggle against Apartheid in South Africa. The conference was organized by the American Muslim Council.

1991 Imam Siraj Wahhaj offers an invocation (opening prayer) to the United States House of Representatives. He was the first Muslims to do so.

1992 Imam Warith Deen Mohammed gives the invocation in the Senate.

1992 Bosnia Task Force, USA was established as an allience of ten national Muslim organizations in support of Bosnia.

1993 Bosnia Task Force, USA and National Organization of Women (NOW) organized joint demonstration in 100 cities in America against the rape of women in Bosnia.

1993 Bosnia Task Force, USA organized the largest rally to date by Muslim in favor of Bosnia in Washington DC attended by 50,000 Muslims

1994 Islamic Shura Council of North America was established choosing four of the largest participents of the Bosnia Task Force, USA

1995 Oaklahoma Bombing took place which launched a hate campaign agains Muslims in America

1996 Iftar-Dinner on Capitol Hill sponsored by American Muslim Council February 13 hosted by Senator Joseph I. Lieberman (D CT), Congressmen Nick J. Rahall (D W. VA), Dana Rohrabacher (R CA), Thomas M. Davis III (R VA), James P. Moran (D VA) and attended by ambassadors and representatives from most of the Muslim countries.
1996 The White house celebration of Eid Al-Fitr, February 20, 1996 by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton the first Eid celebration ever at the White House.

2000 Muslims endorsed Governer Bush for bloc vote who won in one the most narrow election in the history of the US.
Ono sto je interesatno je da ovaj momak, nije musliman rodjenjem - vec je konvert, i druga stvar interesatna je da je izabran iz Minnesote gdje tradicionalno nema mnogo muslimana. Neke statistike o broju dzamija u USA (Minesota nije ni na listi prvih 12 drzava, tj. ima manje od 20 dzamija):

States with the largest number of mosques:
California 214
New York 170
Texas 83
Florida 78
New Jersey 61
Illinois 56
Michigan 54
Ohio 47
Pennsylvania 47
North Carolina 32
Massachusetts 29
Maryland 26
vidi nas masala 47

On nije ni spomenuo tokom predizborne kampanje da je Musliman, ili barem nije to stavljao u prvi plan. Ja znam da je to mnogima neobjasnjiv koncept ali tako je. Svakim danom amerkanci nauce pomalo o Islamu.
On ce kako je najavio tijekom procesa davanja zakletve drzati Kuran, bas kao sto neki kongresmeni drze Bibliju. Ovo je vec pomalo uletilo u lokalne blogosfere i naravno more razlicitih komentara. Da ne ulazimo u to.

Da se vratim nekoiko postova nazad ovaj put ozbiljnije. Neko rece kako bi se ti osjecao da si arap. Znaci mene kao bijelog muslimana niko ne dira. Znaci nije vjera u pitanju, vec zadnji put kad su se sest tamnoputih osoba podigle u isto vrijeme tijekom leta koliko se sjecam su zazdili avion u nekakve zgradurine. Pa i sad kad sest imama se ustane usred aviona da klanja (mojne mi reci das se mora odklanjati teatralno u avionu) ne ocekuj da ce joe blow preko puta ionako sasran od straha reci e vala ljudine samo vi otklanjajte i proucite.

(Mi se volimo ponositi cinjenicom da su Srbi komsije zivjeli sa nama u harmoniji za vrijeme opsade Sarajeva, a slabo ko priupita kako su se oni osjecali. Kad kod koji spomene kako ga je bilo strah najebemo mu se majke ovdje i bilo gdje. I sam sam ponekad kriv za to)

Nesto ne vidim da se ti Arapi koji se osjecaju tako issikanirani vracaju u zemlju pradjedova. Sve mi se cini da se trend useljavanja nastavlja. Ono sto je ocigledno da ce njihov utjecaj, koliko god to zvucalo cudno, nastaviti da raste ovdje u Americi, a da ce priznavanje i poznavanje njihovog naslijedja koje donose sa sobom obogatiti Ameriku. Neise.
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freak_with_a_laptop wrote:Do sada 650.000 mrtvih u Iraku!!! Halo bolan, je li to sto ti blago opisujes "izazovom"?

A zasto su se Ameri opredjelili za pomirenje? Moral im proradio? Jest, al' u zutom. Do sada ih je rat u Afganistanu i Iraku kostao 430 milijardi US$ !!! Kase prazne, budzetni deficit ih udavi.

Zivila sam ja u USA a i u vise evropskih zemalja - ne soli mi pamet majke ti. Lahko se nama preseravat kad smo "white", jer nama na celu ne pise, ni ko smo a ni odakle smo.
Jel ti djevojko uopste znas da Irak ima 20 miliona ljudi - tuto kompleto. Mi smo ratovali - najgori i najcrnji rat u istoriji - pa je poginulo 100.000 ljudi - u Iraku je neko - od auto bombi ubio 650.000? I ranio tri i pol miliona, jel?

Do sada je poginulo 50.000+ Iracana. 3000+ Americkih vojnika. Ima otrpilike 25.000 Al-Qaidinih operativaca/pobunjenika/mudzahedina - nazovi ih kako hoces - stacioniranih u Iraku. To su oficijalne cifre. A, Al-Jezira moze da ispira mozak nekom drugome, kad je Saddam pobio 1.000.000 sto Iracana sto Iranaca - u Irak-Iran ratu - nije se niko plaho ni zabrinuo. Stotine hiljada ljudi po kazamatima. Najveci grad muslimanski u USA - Dearborn, Michigan, oko 400.000 muslimana, mahom iz Iraka, plus Chaldeanci Arapi - iz Iraka takodje, dosli su u Ameriku upravo - jer nisu htjeli ratovati pod Saddamom.
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Svemirski_Jebach wrote: nego mi je stalo da ljudima objasnim argumentima zasto nisu u pravu kada gaje onolike predrasude prema americi, i to samo zato sto je to danas popularno a nema veze sa realnoscu.
Moje misljenje o Americi nema ama bas nikave veze sa tim sto je to danas popularno.A i mene to nervira.Ali, sa druge strane, to je sve pocelo sa ratom u Iraqu.Pa valjda ima neke veze.
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freak_with_a_laptop wrote:Do sada 650.000 mrtvih u Iraku!!! Halo bolan, je li to sto ti blago opisujes "izazovom"?

A zasto su se Ameri opredjelili za pomirenje? Moral im proradio? Jest, al' u zutom. Do sada ih je rat u Afganistanu i Iraku kostao 430 milijardi US$ !!! Kase prazne, budzetni deficit ih udavi.

Zivila sam ja u USA a i u vise evropskih zemalja - ne soli mi pamet majke ti. Lahko se nama preseravat kad smo "white", jer nama na celu ne pise, ni ko smo a ni odakle smo.
dodjosmo i do iraka :D
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a koliko je ljudi u bosni (obicnog svijeta) pa i nekakvih studenata (onih ko fol) procitalo vise od 5 knjiga u zivotu?

I koliko je knjiga procitao prosjecan stanovnik neke rupe u njemackoj? Ili francuskoj?

Naravno da postoje dijelovi amerike koji nisu bas liberalni ali amerika ima 300 miliona ljudi, koliko je njih ovakvih ili onakvih ne znam, ali zn am da mnogi naucnici i umjetnici iz cijelog svijeta rado dolaze u Ameriku jer im pruza mnogo vise prilike.

Svasta se amerima moze prigovoriti al da ljude gledaju kroz naciju ili vjeru, ne moze. Puno ljudi sa mog faksa zna da sam musliman i niko nije rijec nikad spomenuo, za razliku od svedjana ili holandjana koji su poceli podjebavati kao "aaaa kako si ti dosao ovdje?" i slicno...

lijepa cemerika, ne pravi razliku izmedju svedjanina i bosanca. samo kako i koliko znas.
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Nosferatu wrote: Jel ti djevojko uopste znas da Irak ima 20 miliona ljudi - tuto kompleto. Mi smo ratovali - najgori i najcrnji rat u istoriji - pa je poginulo 100.000 ljudi - u Iraku je neko - od auto bombi ubio 650.000? I ranio tri i pol miliona, jel?

Do sada je poginulo 50.000+ Iracana. 3000+ Americkih vojnika. Ima otrpilike 25.000 Al-Qaidinih operativaca/pobunjenika/mudzahedina - nazovi ih kako hoces - stacioniranih u Iraku. To su oficijalne cifre. A, Al-Jezira moze da ispira mozak nekom drugome, kad je Saddam pobio 1.000.000 sto Iracana sto Iranaca - u Irak-Iran ratu - nije se niko plaho ni zabrinuo. Stotine hiljada ljudi po kazamatima. Najveci grad muslimanski u USA - Dearborn, Michigan, oko 400.000 muslimana, mahom iz Iraka, plus Chaldeanci Arapi - iz Iraka takodje, dosli su u Ameriku upravo - jer nisu htjeli ratovati pod Saddamom.

Cenzura US medija fercera :D

jarane, evo ti link, moram te razocarat, nije Al-Jezira vec cuveni The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1892888,00.html
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Svemirski_Jebach wrote:a koliko je ljudi u bosni (obicnog svijeta) pa i nekakvih studenata (onih ko fol) procitalo vise od 5 knjiga u zivotu?

I koliko je knjiga procitao prosjecan stanovnik neke rupe u njemackoj? Ili francuskoj?

Naravno da postoje dijelovi amerike koji nisu bas liberalni ali amerika ima 300 miliona ljudi, koliko je njih ovakvih ili onakvih ne znam, ali zn am da mnogi naucnici i umjetnici iz cijelog svijeta rado dolaze u Ameriku jer im pruza mnogo vise prilike.

Svasta se amerima moze prigovoriti al da ljude gledaju kroz naciju ili vjeru, ne moze. Puno ljudi sa mog faksa zna da sam musliman i niko nije rijec nikad spomenuo, za razliku od svedjana ili holandjana koji su poceli podjebavati kao "aaaa kako si ti dosao ovdje?" i slicno...

lijepa cemerika, ne pravi razliku izmedju svedjanina i bosanca. samo kako i koliko znas.
nisam trebala one knjige ni spomenuti, nebitno, nije ni prosjecni bosanac procitao nesto puno knjiga...ali prosjecan amer je glup ili zatupljen, to ni ja jos nisam uspjela dokuciti.

Tvoja iskustva sa tolerancijom su takva, ali znam puno ljudi koji su dozivjeli mnogo neugodnosti.
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A wrote:
Svemirski_Jebach wrote:nego mi je stalo da ljudima objasnim argumentima zasto nisu u pravu kada gaje onolike predrasude prema americi, i to samo zato sto je to danas popularno a nema veze sa realnoscu.
... i zato odgovaras na temu koja pocinje tezom da je Evropa rasisticka? I zato su tvoji protu-argumenti "A bojim se da je i danas rasizam mnogo jaci u europi, samo se vjesto krije." "nemoj bi boga ti o europskoj finoci, ko je onda kolonizovo vascijeli svijet i jos ih takve drze?" Predrasudom protiv predrasude? Od tebe bih ocekivala diskusiju na nekom visem nivou.
ne odgovaram na predrasudu predrasudom, nego cinjenicom da europljani danas vide grancicu u americkom oko a ne vide hrast u svom.

ne zelim reci da je amerika savrsena i da u njoj sve punkionise kako treba ali zelim da ukazem na to da je americki sistem odolio izazovima koji su se nasli pred njim i da uprkos svim kritikama (od kojih su neke na mjestu) amerika i dalje pruza vise nego europa u pogledu lakse asimilacije u drustvo.

Cilj mi dovesti u kontradikciju europsko stajaliste i dovesti u pitanje njihov kredibilitet.
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Svemirski_Jebach wrote:a koliko je ljudi u bosni (obicnog svijeta) pa i nekakvih studenata (onih ko fol) procitalo vise od 5 knjiga u zivotu?

I koliko je knjiga procitao prosjecan stanovnik neke rupe u njemackoj? Ili francuskoj?

Naravno da postoje dijelovi amerike koji nisu bas liberalni ali amerika ima 300 miliona ljudi, koliko je njih ovakvih ili onakvih ne znam, ali zn am da mnogi naucnici i umjetnici iz cijelog svijeta rado dolaze u Ameriku jer im pruza mnogo vise prilike.

Svasta se amerima moze prigovoriti al da ljude gledaju kroz naciju ili vjeru, ne moze. Puno ljudi sa mog faksa zna da sam musliman i niko nije rijec nikad spomenuo, za razliku od svedjana ili holandjana koji su poceli podjebavati kao "aaaa kako si ti dosao ovdje?" i slicno...

lijepa cemerika, ne pravi razliku izmedju svedjanina i bosanca. samo kako i koliko znas.
ma dusha nasa nacitana sa Columbia univerziteta :oops: a za one koji jos ne znaju de reci koji je ono fax :oops: :D
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hajd ne kaki. raspravljamo.
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freak_with_a_laptop wrote:
Nosferatu wrote: Jel ti djevojko uopste znas da Irak ima 20 miliona ljudi - tuto kompleto. Mi smo ratovali - najgori i najcrnji rat u istoriji - pa je poginulo 100.000 ljudi - u Iraku je neko - od auto bombi ubio 650.000? I ranio tri i pol miliona, jel?

Do sada je poginulo 50.000+ Iracana. 3000+ Americkih vojnika. Ima otrpilike 25.000 Al-Qaidinih operativaca/pobunjenika/mudzahedina - nazovi ih kako hoces - stacioniranih u Iraku. To su oficijalne cifre. A, Al-Jezira moze da ispira mozak nekom drugome, kad je Saddam pobio 1.000.000 sto Iracana sto Iranaca - u Irak-Iran ratu - nije se niko plaho ni zabrinuo. Stotine hiljada ljudi po kazamatima. Najveci grad muslimanski u USA - Dearborn, Michigan, oko 400.000 muslimana, mahom iz Iraka, plus Chaldeanci Arapi - iz Iraka takodje, dosli su u Ameriku upravo - jer nisu htjeli ratovati pod Saddamom.

Cenzura US medija fercera :D

jarane, evo ti link, moram te razocarat, nije Al-Jezira vec cuveni The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1892888,00.html
iracionalna mrznja fercera

evo ti link pa procitaj ko je i kako je dosao do ove cifre.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1011-06.htm
Nema medija u Americi koji nije objavio ovu studiju i cifru, i ti koja zivis u USA bi to trebala znati i spomenuti, a ne prosipati suplju da si o tome saznala preko AlJazeere ili Guardiana (ko nekakva mi razlika)

Brainwashed u americi? Soulpoisoned prije bih rekao.
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