Obama i SAD (2008-2016)

jefferson · Post by **jefferson** » 27/01/2009 22:15

2407, studija koje se bave americkom pomoci ili uopce svjetskom pomoci imas bezbroj. Ja sam prosle godine na konferenciji u Chicagu prisustvovao prezentaciji studija iz tih oblasti, bilo ih je toliku da su cijela dva sprata jedan dan u hiltonu bili rezervisani samo za te studije!

walkabout · Post by **walkabout** » 27/01/2009 22:22

vidi, vidi, Borisa od Londona kako plete...

zayeba(n)t ...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/obam ... ntentSwap1

ld · Post by ld » 27/01/2009 22:45

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – Illinois senators for the first time have heard FBI recordings of Gov. Rod Blagojevich that are part of a corruption investigation that led to his impeachment. The prosecutor at the Democrat's impeachment trial said Tuesday the taped conversations reveal the governor talking with a lobbyist about how to get campaign contributions in exchange for signing legislation wanted by the horse-racing industry.
Blagojevich never specifically mentions money, but he and others on the recordings talk about a lobbyist being "good for it" and keeping his "commitment."
The recordings played Tuesday are just some made by federal authorities.
Blagojevich is boycotting the trial, which he says is biased. He's denied any wrongdoing.

jah,oni samo lobiraju po zakonu

jefferson · Post by **jefferson** » 27/01/2009 22:53

ld wrote:SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – Illinois senators for the first time have heard FBI recordings of Gov. Rod Blagojevich that are part of a corruption investigation that led to his impeachment. The prosecutor at the Democrat's impeachment trial said Tuesday the taped conversations reveal the governor talking with a lobbyist about how to get campaign contributions in exchange for signing legislation wanted by the horse-racing industry.
Blagojevich never specifically mentions money, but he and others on the recordings talk about a lobbyist being "good for it" and keeping his "commitment."
The recordings played Tuesday are just some made by federal authorities.
Blagojevich is boycotting the trial, which he says is biased. He's denied any wrongdoing.

jah,oni samo lobiraju po zakonu

Id, to vise nije lobiranje, to je korupcija, kao sto je i navedeno na pocetku texta! Covjece kada iz lobiranja predjes u potkupljivanje onda vise nije lobiranje, ali haman tebi to dzaba objasnjavati!
Evo i podvucu crvenim gdje ti to pise u tekstu koji si ti naveo!
Takodje, ocito da postoji sistem koji ce eto i guvernera jedne od najvaznijih drzva, u kojoj je smejsten grad sa najjacom politickom masinom, dovesti pred lice pravde.
Hocel dovesti sve pred lice pravde lobiste koji su ptkupljivali politicare, NE, ali svijet nije savrsen jaro i sam to znas niti treba biti savrsen jer i ti nisi savrsen ali trazis savrsenstvo ovdje jer si ustao nekad na liju nogu i okrivio ameriku sto ti ne radi rasvjeta u ulici!

walkabout · Post by **walkabout** » 28/01/2009 00:24

Dr Strangelove...

ps. jeste li ga vidjeli u kolicima na inauguraciji - narochito onaj momenat kad je shmugnuo netragom

ps1. isto tako, jeste li vidjeli body language Busha Starijeg, kao i Klintonovih (narochito lica) presretenih od strane nepoznate gospodje

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Fuzz vanishes as Dick Cheney quits official residence

Stephen Hutcheon
January 27, 2009 - 1:36PM

A blur that enveloped Google satellite images of the official residence of former US vice-president Dick Cheney lifted just days before removalists carted off his belongings.

The house at 1 Observatory Circle in Washington, DC, has served as the official residence for US vice-presidents for the past 25 years.

The images have appeared digitally blurred on Google Maps and Earth - as well as on other similar mapping services - since these types of online tools became widely available during former president George Bush's second term in office.

The new and sharper images of the Queen Anne-style house debuted on Google's mapping services on January 18, just days before Bush and Cheney made way for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

It confirmed to many the conspiracy theory that Cheney had ordered the digital obfuscation because of his penchant for secrecy.

The theory gained even more credence when it was noted that no such blur existed on similar aerial or satellite images of the White House, the Capitol or the Pentagon.

Google has always maintained that the pixellation was not its doing and that the images - provided by the US Geological Survey - were delivered partially obscured.

It says the new images were supplied by its satellite imaging partner GeoEye, which launched its GeoEye-1 satellite in September.

Google is a major sponsor of the $US500 million satellite and has exclusive commercial rights to its high resolution images.

The Geo-Eye satellite was positioned 680 kilometres over the US capital during last week's inauguration to capture images of the event from above.

- with agencies

ld · Post by ld » 28/01/2009 00:45

jefferson wrote:
ld wrote:SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – Illinois senators for the first time have heard FBI recordings of Gov. Rod Blagojevich that are part of a corruption investigation that led to his impeachment. The prosecutor at the Democrat's impeachment trial said Tuesday the taped conversations reveal the governor talking with a lobbyist about how to get campaign contributions in exchange for signing legislation wanted by the horse-racing industry.
Blagojevich never specifically mentions money, but he and others on the recordings talk about a lobbyist being "good for it" and keeping his "commitment."
The recordings played Tuesday are just some made by federal authorities.
Blagojevich is boycotting the trial, which he says is biased. He's denied any wrongdoing.

jah,oni samo lobiraju po zakonu
Id, to vise nije lobiranje, to je korupcija, kao sto je i navedeno na pocetku texta! Covjece kada iz lobiranja predjes u potkupljivanje onda vise nije lobiranje, ali haman tebi to dzaba objasnjavati!
Evo i podvucu crvenim gdje ti to pise u tekstu koji si ti naveo!
Takodje, ocito da postoji sistem koji ce eto i guvernera jedne od najvaznijih drzva, u kojoj je smejsten grad sa najjacom politickom masinom, dovesti pred lice pravde.
Hocel dovesti sve pred lice pravde lobiste koji su ptkupljivali politicare, NE, ali svijet nije savrsen jaro i sam to znas niti treba biti savrsen jer i ti nisi savrsen ali trazis savrsenstvo ovdje jer si ustao nekad na liju nogu i okrivio ameriku sto ti ne radi rasvjeta u ulici!

haveru ja sam svjestan dobrih strana amerike i konkretno sta su uradili za nas i to im se nemoze negirati nikada
i ne samo za nas,i za kosovo takodje

ali nije bajno i sjajno kao sto zelis da predstavis
i procitaj jos koji put od tog cetnika komentare u vezi lobista
on je uhvacen,jer je bio glup i nafuran i previse je blebetao

a sta je sa onim drugim,koji su pametni i pametno koriste lobiranje i lobiste?????
pusti ziv bio
americi su najveci dusmani njihovi biznismeni i ti lobisti
unistili su tu zemlju i taj narod
bilo da se radi o farmaceutskoj,oruzanoj,energetskoj,prehrabenoj industriji,svi oni guraju samo svoj interes i lovu,apsolutno ih ne interesuje narod amerike
a banke i investitore da i ne spominjem,vec se dovoljno reklo u zadnjih 6 mjeseci o njima

ld · Post by ld » 28/01/2009 00:50

prije par mjeseci u londonu sam bio na promociji knjige blackwater od jeremy scahilla,i poslije smo se upoznali,pricali i tako to
izmedju ostalog frajer dobro parla i nas jezik
uzmi njegovu knjigu i onda procitaj o lobistima i lobiranju
vrlo dobro argumentovana knjiga,procitaj sigurno se neces pokajati
pa cemo nastaviti diskusiju
a pogledaj i sicka od moora
pogledaj i ,,power of nightmares,, o neokonsima i elkaidi

ljubav_aha · Post by **ljubav_aha** » 28/01/2009 04:19

jefferson wrote:
ljubav_aha wrote:
jefferson wrote:Prvi intervju sa stranom kucom je bio sa TV kucom Al-Arabiyja
jeferson,koje su razlike izmedju al jazeera i al arabya
Konkurencija jedni drugim, znas ono "free market system" garant neka zavjera truhlog zapada

aaa

bitno je da su kako kazu iskljucivo liberalni

jefferson · Post by **jefferson** » 28/01/2009 06:19

ld wrote:prije par mjeseci u londonu sam bio na promociji knjige blackwater od jeremy scahilla,i poslije smo se upoznali,pricali i tako to
izmedju ostalog frajer dobro parla i nas jezik
uzmi njegovu knjigu i onda procitaj o lobistima i lobiranju
vrlo dobro argumentovana knjiga,procitaj sigurno se neces pokajati
pa cemo nastaviti diskusiju
a pogledaj i sicka od moora
pogledaj i ,,power of nightmares,, o neokonsima i elkaidi

Znas li ti kako je u americi donesen zakon da mozes piti alkohol samo sa 21 godinom?

jeza u ledja · Post by **jeza u ledja** » 28/01/2009 22:20

Ja ne znam.

Haj bas me zanima. Nesto garant u vezi broja poginulih tinejdzera u saobracajnim nesrecama.

jefferson · Post by **jefferson** » 28/01/2009 23:25

Jeb, napisam pola strane i posaljem post i server pao! Uzas!
1980 kcerka Candy Lightner je poginula kada je udario pijan vozac. Tada je pokrenula organizaciju MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving). one su podizale svijest o opasnostima voznje u pijanom stanju itd. Medjutim, kako je Reagan dosao u bjelu kucu 1981, ponovo se pocelo pricati da je moguce progurati akt koji ce dignuti legalnu dob sa 18 na 21 g. neke su drzave imale vec na 21g, neke na 19g. Medjutim, industrija alkoholnih pica (i domaca i strana) je bacila milione i milione da lobira protiv zakona, dok je glavni lobist na strani zakona bio MADD! MADD naravno niko nije podrzavao osim donacija i sl. Medjutim, zakon je proguran i 1984 je donesen National Minimum Drinking Age Act. Ipak, kako drzave zadrzavaju pravo da taj akt odbace to se i desilo u mnogim drzavama, tada je MADD lobirao kod Elizabeth Dole, tadasnje secretary of Department of Transportation da se uskrati 10% pomoci federalne vlade drzavama koje ne provedu ovaj akt. pare koje ce biti uskracene su se odnosile na auto puteve. 1987 Louisiana je bila zadnja drzava koja je kapitulirala!
To se zove lobiranje i to je lobiranje!

zonbirile · Post by **zonbirile** » 29/01/2009 07:43

evo fine vijesti za elaborirati.Obama odobrio 825 milijardi dolara za program,bla,bla.Samo jedno objašnjenje vas tamo sa izvora,jesu li to njegove pare,ili se koristi umirujući ton za rulju,a radi se o novom štampanju dolara,pod istim uvjetima.Svijetu je pun qurac Amerike i dolara,i na kraju će pući.Drugo je ekipa koja stoji iza,i čeka rasplet,pa i rat je samo biznis.

jefferson · Post by **jefferson** » 29/01/2009 15:32

zonbirile wrote:evo fine vijesti za elaborirati.Obama odobrio 825 milijardi dolara za program,bla,bla.Samo jedno objašnjenje vas tamo sa izvora,jesu li to njegove pare,ili se koristi umirujući ton za rulju,a radi se o novom štampanju dolara,pod istim uvjetima.Svijetu je pun qurac Amerike i dolara,i na kraju će pući.Drugo je ekipa koja stoji iza,i čeka rasplet,pa i rat je samo biznis.

ma amerika ti stampa dolare ko na traci! A onda predsjednik nazove lidere i naredi im kako ce se kretat dolar!
Sve ti je to bolan teorija zavjere, ali ja mislim da je tu glavni krivac Lagumdzija i SDP

zonbirile · Post by **zonbirile** » 29/01/2009 15:36

ne nego je opredmećeni rad rednekova iz srednjeg zapada.Provaljeno je davno,a normalno da je zavjera za ublehaše.Hajde pukni ti nama koju asocijaciju na engleskom.Svijet trpi i dahće pod teretom bankarske bande.

Dado dijasporitus · Post by **Dado dijasporitus** » 29/01/2009 15:47

zonbirile wrote:evo fine vijesti za elaborirati.Obama odobrio 825 milijardi dolara za program,bla,bla.Samo jedno objašnjenje vas tamo sa izvora,jesu li to njegove pare,ili se koristi umirujući ton za rulju,a radi se o novom štampanju dolara,pod istim uvjetima.Svijetu je pun qurac Amerike i dolara,i na kraju će pući.Drugo je ekipa koja stoji iza,i čeka rasplet,pa i rat je samo biznis.

Sto se mene tice nikako mi se nesvidja ta ispomoc od 825 milijadi. U principu ja placam to svojim ionako astronomskim porezom a pare idu arogantnim kompanijama koje su se vec dokazale da im nemozes vjerovati I ciji CEOs imaju I po 20 miliona godisnju platu. Neznam, mozda grijesim ali jos nisam vidio ni jednu idikaciju da ova ispomoc pomaze prosjecnom narodu koji I placa za njega.

jefferson · Post by **jefferson** » 29/01/2009 17:07

Dado dijasporitus wrote:
zonbirile wrote:evo fine vijesti za elaborirati.Obama odobrio 825 milijardi dolara za program,bla,bla.Samo jedno objašnjenje vas tamo sa izvora,jesu li to njegove pare,ili se koristi umirujući ton za rulju,a radi se o novom štampanju dolara,pod istim uvjetima.Svijetu je pun qurac Amerike i dolara,i na kraju će pući.Drugo je ekipa koja stoji iza,i čeka rasplet,pa i rat je samo biznis.
Sto se mene tice nikako mi se nesvidja ta ispomoc od 825 milijadi. U principu ja placam to svojim ionako astronomskim porezom a pare idu arogantnim kompanijama koje su se vec dokazale da im nemozes vjerovati I ciji CEOs imaju I po 20 miliona godisnju platu. Neznam, mozda grijesim ali jos nisam vidio ni jednu idikaciju da ova ispomoc pomaze prosjecnom narodu koji I placa za njega.

825, tacnije 819 milijardi (prije usaglasavanja izmedju House i Senat) nije usmejreno bankama. Prvi TARP je bio usmjeren na otkupljivanje tkz. toxic waste!
Od ovoga banke ce malo vidjeti, jer banke imaju jos uvijek na cekanju 350 milijardi iz programa TARP!
Dosta ovog novca ce ici skolama, za obnavljanje infrastrukture, investicije u zelenu tehnologoiju itd. TARP uopce nije bio usmjeren u ove svrhe, a sve ces moci vidjeti na internetu koliko ce ko dobiti!

jeza u ledja · Post by **jeza u ledja** » 29/01/2009 19:56

Izmedju ostalog, novi stimulus package ima dio koji placa subvenciju ako sam dobro shvatio 65% od premiuma za health insurance ljudima koji su ostali bez posla za period od 9-12 mjeseci. Do sad je postojao zakon koji samo kaze da radnici nece izgubiti osiguranje 18 mjeseci nakon sto ostanu bez posla, ali su i dalje morali placati premium, tako nesto. Ovo znaci da bi ta cijena bila smanjena na trecinu troska i racunace se retroaktivno i za ljude koji su vec izgubili posao mescini od augusta.

Takodje, lijepa vijest je da je Obama odobrio reviziju kalifornijskog zahtjeva EPA o ogranicenjima na emisiju stetnih cestica, slican prijedlog za zakon ima jos desetak velikih drzava, sto bi poprilicno ogranicilo proizvodnju gas-guzzlers, ali posto auto-industrija dobija lovu nemaju cime da se kurce.

jeza u ledja · Post by **jeza u ledja** » 29/01/2009 20:49

Revealed: the letter Obama team hope will heal Iran rift
Symbolic gesture gives assurances that US does not want to topple Islamic regime

Officials of Barack Obama's administration have drafted a letter to Iran from the president aimed at unfreezing US-Iranian relations and opening the way for face-to-face talks, the Guardian has learned.

The US state department has been working on drafts of the letter since Obama was elected on 4 November last year. It is in reply to a lengthy letter of congratulations sent by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, on 6 November.

Diplomats said Obama's letter would be a symbolic gesture to mark a change in tone from the hostile one adopted by the Bush administration, which portrayed Iran as part of an "axis of evil".

It would be intended to allay the suspicions of Iran's leaders and pave the way for Obama to engage them directly, a break with past policy.

State department officials have composed at least three drafts of the letter, which gives assurances that Washington does not want to overthrow the Islamic regime, but merely seeks a change in its behaviour. The letter would be addressed to the Iranian people and sent directly to Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, or released as an open letter.

One draft proposal suggests that Iran should compare its relatively low standard of living with that of some of its more prosperous neighbours, and contemplate the benefits of losing its pariah status in the west. Although the tone is conciliatory, it also calls on Iran to end what the US calls state sponsorship of terrorism.

The letter is being considered by the new secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, as part of a sweeping review of US policy on Iran. A decision on sending it is not expected until the review is complete.

In an interview on Monday with the al-Arabiya television network, Obama hinted at a more friendly approach towards the Islamic Republic.

Ahmadinejad said yesterday that he was waiting patiently to see what the Obama administration would come up with. "We will listen to the statements closely, we will carefully study their actions, and, if there are real changes, we will welcome it," he said.

Ahmadinejad, who confirmed that he would stand for election again in June, said it was unclear whether the Obama administration was intent on just a shift in tactics or was seeking fundamental change. He called on Washington to apologise for its actions against Iran over the past 60 years, including US support for a 1953 coup that ousted the democratically elected government, and the US shooting down of an Iranian passenger plane in 1988.

The state department refused to comment yesterday on the draft letters.

US concern about Iran mainly centres on its uranium enrichment programme, which Washington claims is intended to provide the country with a nuclear weapons capability. Iran claims the programme is for civilian purposes.

The diplomatic moves are given increased urgency by fears that Israel might take unilateral action to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities.

The scale of the problem facing the new American president was reinforced yesterday when a senior aide to Ahmadinejad, Aliakbar Javanfekr, said that, despite the calls from the US, Iran had no intention of stopping its nuclear activities. When asked about a UN resolution calling for the suspension of Iran's uranium enrichment, Javanfekr, the presidential adviser for press affairs, replied: "We are past that stage."

One of the chief Iranian concerns revolves around suspicion that the US is engaged in covert action aimed at regime change, including support for separatist groups in areas such as Kurdistan, Sistan-Baluchestan and Khuzestan.

The state department has repeatedly denied that there is any American support for such groups.

In its dying days, the Bush administration was planning to open a US interests section in the Iranian capital Tehran, one step down from an embassy. Bush's secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, said that never happened because attention was diverted by the Russian invasion of Georgia. Others say that rightwingers in the Bush administration mounted a rearguard action to block it.

The idea has resurfaced, but if there are direct talks with Iran, it may be decided that a diplomatic presence would obviate the need for a diplomatic mission there, at least in the short term.

While Obama is taking the lead on policy towards Iran, the administration will soon announce that Dennis Ross will become a special envoy to the country, following the appointments last week of George Mitchell, the veteran US mediator, as special envoy to the Middle East, and Richard Holbrooke, who helped to broker the Bosnia peace agreement, as special envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Ross, who took a leading role in the Middle East peace talks in Bill Clinton's administration, will be responsible on a day-to-day basis for implementing policy towards Iran.

In a graphic sign of Iranian mistrust, the hardline newspaper Kayhan, which is considered close to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has denounced Ross as a "Zionist lobbyist".

Saeed Leylaz, a Tehran-based analyst, said a US letter would have to be accompanied by security guarantees and an agreement to drop economic sanctions. "If they send such a letter it will be a very significant step towards better ties, but they should be careful in not thinking Tehran will respond immediately," he said.

"There will be disputes inside the system about such a letter. There are lot of radicals who don't want to see ordinary relations between Tehran and Washington. To convince Iran, they should send a very clear message that they are not going to try to destroy the regime."

Izvor: Guardian

Inace Obama vec dobija zestoke kritike od Republikanac glede stimulusa, glede njegovog intervjua za Al-Arabiyu, glede njegove odluke o ponovnom uspostavljanju financiranja stem cell research...itd. To znaci da mu dobro ide.

hik--meta · Post by **hik--meta** » 30/01/2009 05:23

konacno su izgurali blagojevica, sad jos samo da ga nekako usutkaju...

Blagojevich: If you fire me, fire Rahm Emanuel. An explainer.
By
Lynn Sweet
on January 29, 2009 1:11 PM | Permalink | Comments (0)

WASHINGTON--While much of the focus of Gov. Blagojevich's impeachment has focused on accusations he was trying to auction off President Obama's vacant Senate seat, there are many other elements to the Articles of Impeachment.

Blagojevich, in addressing the state Senate on Thursday chose to dwell on some of the weaker parts of the impeachment charges. He never addressed the significant abuse of power allegations, including trading contracts, legislation and appointments for campaign cash.

Two of weaker charges filed against Blagojevich stem from ill fated actions taken during his first term involving purchase of flu vaccines without proper approval, making the sale illegal and trying to import prescription drugs from Canada and other countries a few years ago without consent of the Food and Drug Administration.

Blagojevich correctly told the state Senate on Thursday that the mover behind the drug importation issue was then Rep. Rahm Emanuel, now President Obama's chief of staff. The FDA proved to be a toothless tiger in the drug importation movement and never seriously tried to either approve or block any importation plans put in place by a relatively small number of cities and states.

That's the context. Blagojevich said he the state senate fires him, than Emanuel should be tossed out too.

Referring to having Illinois bring in prescription drugs from other states, Blagojevich said, "And I loved the idea, and we did it. And then so did Wisconsin,
and so did Kansas, and so did Vermont. If you're impeaching me for
providing safe and affordable prescription drugs by going to Canada
and getting the same medicines made by the exact same companies, then
the governor of Wisconsin ought to be impeached, the governor of
Kansas ought to be impeached, the governor of Vermont ought to be
impeached.

"And while we're at it, let's reach right into the United States
Senate and let's expel John McCain and Ted Kennedy because I worked
with them on this issue of the re-importation of prescription drugs.
And then let's not stop there. Let's demand that President Obama fire
Rahm Emanuel because Rahm Emanuel was the one who gave me this idea.
If you're going to throw me out of office for something like this,
then how can those guys stay in the offices that they have?

Dado dijasporitus · Post by **Dado dijasporitus** » 30/01/2009 17:03

Pravo mi se svidio ovaj "djonom u lice" pristup. Nadam se samo da ce i konkretno nesto uraditi po tome. Wall street bankari su grobovi Amerike. Milionski bonusi ovim spodobama su u NYC doprinijeli samo da imamo astronomske cijene stanova koje niko osim ovih lopina nemogu priustiti.

Obama obećava finansijske reforme
Predsjednik Barack Obama oštro je osudio izdašne bonuse koji se isplaćuju čelnicima finansijskih firmi u vrijeme kada američki poreski obveznici izdvajaju stotine milijardi dolara da bi sačuvali banke i druge finansijske firme na Wallstreetu od bankrota. Obama je u četvrtak uvečer govorio o nastojanjima za oživljavanje posustale američke ekonomije.
Foto: AFP
Foto: AFP
Dan pošto je Predstavnički dom usvojio Obamin plan o ekonomskom oporavku, predsjednik je govorio o nastojanjima njegove administracije da nacionalnu ekonomiju usmjeri u ispravnom pravcu. Pošto se sastao s članovima svog ekonomskog tima, Obama se osvrnuo na izvještaj da su poslovni lideri dobili više od 18 milijardi dolara prošle godine.

“To je vrhunac neodgovornosti. To je sramno“, rekao je predsjednik.

Vidno iritiran, Obama je primijetio da su poreski obveznici proteklih mjeseci spasili brojne finansijske institucije. Obećao je da će njegova administracija nastaviti da suočava poslovne lidere na Wallstreetu s ovim pitanjem i da naglašava potrebu za odgovornim korporativnim ponašanjem. On je dodao da će reforma načina poslovanja u Americi biti ključna komponenta višestrukog pristupa oživljavanju ekonomije, dodavši da njegova administracija priprema neophodne finansijske reforme i druge mjere i da će one biti predstavljene javnosti narednih sedmica.

“Američki narod će imati jasnu sliku sveobuhvatne strategije čiji cilj je da se ljudi vrate na posao, da se biznisi ponovo otvore i da krediti ponovo budu dostupni“, rekao je predsjednik Obama.

Ministarstvo rada je u četvrtak saopćilo da je broj Amerikanaca koji primaju nadoknadu za nezaposlenost porastao na rekordnih 4,78 miliona. To je najveći broj nezaposlenih otkako je ovo ministarstvo počelo pratiti podatke o nezaposlenosti 1960-ih godina.

zonbirile · Post by **zonbirile** » 30/01/2009 19:12

dobar fol.priča se o astronomskim bonusima direktora,a šta je sa vlasnicima,ako su namještenici toliko dobili.Providno,ali pali kod levata.

Dado dijasporitus · Post by **Dado dijasporitus** » 30/01/2009 19:24

zonbirile wrote:dobar fol.priča se o astronomskim bonusima direktora,a šta je sa vlasnicima,ako su namještenici toliko dobili.Providno,ali pali kod levata.

O cemu ti to? O vlasnicima lokalnih granapa ili o "celnicima finansijskih firmi" na Wallstreet-u?

jefferson · Post by **jefferson** » 30/01/2009 23:57

zonbirile wrote:dobar fol.priča se o astronomskim bonusima direktora,a šta je sa vlasnicima,ako su namještenici toliko dobili.Providno,ali pali kod levata.

Izgleda da tebi neke osnovne stvari nisu bas najjasnije!

zonbirile · Post by **zonbirile** » 31/01/2009 12:18

direktori banaka su samo namještenici,nisu vlasnici.Vlasništvo se od upravljanja odvojilo na prelazu 19/20 vijek,a ako ima šta novo javite mi,ja to iz knjiga,a vi u Americi ste na izvoru pa znate bolje.Ja sam uvijek za razmjenu znanja.

ahuseino · Post by **ahuseino** » 31/01/2009 16:16

zonbirile wrote:direktori banaka su samo namještenici,nisu vlasnici.Vlasništvo se od upravljanja odvojilo na prelazu 19/20 vijek,a ako ima šta novo javite mi,ja to iz knjiga,a vi u Americi ste na izvoru pa znate bolje.Ja sam uvijek za razmjenu znanja.

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