OBAMA I ISLAM
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seldzuk
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#1 OBAMA I ISLAM
Nakon što su američki izbori, a time i kampanja završeni, lakše se je pozabaviti nekim detaljima koje je u moru predizborne propagande teško razaznati. O vezi novoizabranog predsjednika Amerike Baraka Obame sa islamom bilo je riječi i tokom kampanje.
Otvaram ovu temu kao razgovor o religijskom opredjeljenju Baraka Obame i posljedicama na kršćansko-islamske odnose i uopšteno klimu povjerenja u svijetu. Prvo nešto detalja o samom njegovom opredjeljenju:
Obama asked about connection to Islam
Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:22 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Obama
From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
At a stop at Smoky Row Coffee Shop in Oskaloosa, Obama sat down to eat some pumpkin pie with four local women and ended up having to explain how he was not a Muslim.
An older woman seated at the table asked Obama to explain his Muslim heritage, to which the candidate replied, "This is something that keeps on being misreported, so I’m glad you asked me."
Obama was referring to an e-mail chain accusing him of being a Muslim with an intent to undermine the United States. Early this year, false reports also circulated that he had attended a madrassa as a child. Obama explained his connection to Islam in this way:
"My father was from Kenya,” he said, “and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I’ve always been a Christian. The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country. But I’ve never practiced Islam."
More: "For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that’s a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn’t practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues."
"But I'm a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ and have been there 15 years," Obama added.
But the woman who asked the question still wasn't satisfied. She asked Obama to "define what a Christian is."
"Somebody who believes in Jesus Christ as our lord and savior," the senator responded.
"I'm so glad to hear that," she said.
Any other discussion of religion was quickly put to a close by campaign staffers, who ushered in a ruddy-cheeked little girl to talk with Obama.
Otvaram ovu temu kao razgovor o religijskom opredjeljenju Baraka Obame i posljedicama na kršćansko-islamske odnose i uopšteno klimu povjerenja u svijetu. Prvo nešto detalja o samom njegovom opredjeljenju:
Obama asked about connection to Islam
Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:22 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Obama
From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
At a stop at Smoky Row Coffee Shop in Oskaloosa, Obama sat down to eat some pumpkin pie with four local women and ended up having to explain how he was not a Muslim.
An older woman seated at the table asked Obama to explain his Muslim heritage, to which the candidate replied, "This is something that keeps on being misreported, so I’m glad you asked me."
Obama was referring to an e-mail chain accusing him of being a Muslim with an intent to undermine the United States. Early this year, false reports also circulated that he had attended a madrassa as a child. Obama explained his connection to Islam in this way:
"My father was from Kenya,” he said, “and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I’ve always been a Christian. The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country. But I’ve never practiced Islam."
More: "For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that’s a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn’t practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues."
"But I'm a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ and have been there 15 years," Obama added.
But the woman who asked the question still wasn't satisfied. She asked Obama to "define what a Christian is."
"Somebody who believes in Jesus Christ as our lord and savior," the senator responded.
"I'm so glad to hear that," she said.
Any other discussion of religion was quickly put to a close by campaign staffers, who ushered in a ruddy-cheeked little girl to talk with Obama.
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seldzuk
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#2 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
O crkvi Trinity United Church of Christ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_united
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_united
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#3 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
i ja sam mislio po imenu da je musliman ali nije kršćanin je.. tako kaže
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seldzuk
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Tekst sa cbsnews od marta 2007:
Obama's Ties To Church Examined
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/ ... 8082.shtml
Obama's Ties To Church Examined
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/ ... 8082.shtml
- travar
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#5 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
Pa da je musliman, ne boj se, cijeli bi svijet saznao, i nešto čisto sumnjam da bi održao pobjednički govor 
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zemo_online
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jel mu srednje ime Hussein?
- JThomas
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#9 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
da ima išta što ukazuje na to da je musliman, karl rove i bagra bi to iskopali...i rezultat izbora bi vjerovatno bio drukčiji.
- pape
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Yes, .... konspirativno, .... da se vlasi ne dosjete, ....test01 wrote:jel mu srednje ime Hussein?
- Topla voda
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#11 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
jel osunecen?
mozda ga je babo osunetio na foru,dok je jos sa starom zivio u americi.
trebali su mu cunu trazit da pokaze,na pres konferenciji.
tako bi ga identificirali....haman ko sto neki radise i kod nas u bosni..
mozda ga je babo osunetio na foru,dok je jos sa starom zivio u americi.
trebali su mu cunu trazit da pokaze,na pres konferenciji.
tako bi ga identificirali....haman ko sto neki radise i kod nas u bosni..
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BaileyS
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#12 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
U AmeriKi su skoro svi osuneceni,...da se vlasi ne dosjeteTopla voda wrote:jel osunecen?
mozda ga je babo osunetio na foru,dok je jos sa starom zivio u americi.
trebali su mu cunu trazit da pokaze,na pres konferenciji.
tako bi ga identificirali....haman ko sto neki radise i kod nas u bosni..
- bijelo_dugme
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#13 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
Mubarack Hussein Osamatest01 wrote:jel mu srednje ime Hussein?
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Majjah
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#14 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
Puno je to promjene u ,,najdemokratskijoj'' zemlji na svijetu, gdje je do neki dan bilo sve moguce, sem da crnac postane predsjednik!
Bice jos izbora, na slijedecim cemo im nekog naseg uvalit

Bice jos izbora, na slijedecim cemo im nekog naseg uvalit
- Bosanac sa dna kace
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#15 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
.....jos samo kad bi mogo kako dokazivat da nije crnac
...sad je mnogima haman plaho lakse sto nije musliman, samo jos uvijek ih bode ono Hussein
...sad je mnogima haman plaho lakse sto nije musliman, samo jos uvijek ih bode ono Hussein
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rodiboga
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#16 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
nedaj boze da je ateista...
ameri bi prije izabrali crnkinju lezbejku muslimanku koja nema pojma o politici nego bilo kojeg ateistu
- lord-executioner
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Ima veze jer ima debila koji misle da ce, bude li musliman predsjednik SAD, u BiH poteci med i mlijeko. Hoce malo sutra, eto koliko hoces muslimana na vlasti u Federaciji, pa zemlja ide u kurac, upravo zbog takvih koji biraju takve. Napominjem da se to ne odnosi samo na muslimane, nego opcenito na narode BiH koji misle da ce ih "njihov" najbolje cuvati i stavljati im hranu na stol. U Turskoj su ustrajni u sekularizaciji, kod njih se ne smije ni studirati sa hidzabom, u Srbiji i politicare i gradjane zaboli neka stvar za RS-om, a Hrvati ovdje samo dopune izborne glasove HDZ-u; nije to nikakva topla voda, prezvakano je milion puta, ali neki ljudi nikako ne uspijevaju shvatiti ni trinaest godina poslije rata da u drzavi nema napretka dok svako bira "svoj" mućak. Zeljko Komsic nije Barak Obama, i nema neke narocite sposobnosti, ali je barem prvi covjek za kojeg su masovno glasale sve strane, i on je za sada najbolja zamjena za Obamu koju ovdje imamo. Ko njega pita za vjersko opredjeljenje? Mene zivo zanima je li se neki Samir osjeca bolje sto mu po dzepu drnda i po dostojanstvu gazi Bakir, a ne Jovan ili Ivan, je li se neki Ivan osjeca bolje sto ga u mozak j*be Ivica, a ne Sulejman ili Milan? Je li cinjenica da je lopov svjeze pristigao iz crkve ili dzamije olaksa taj cin silovanja u zdrav razum? Mozda sam malo off topic ovdje, ali mene naprosto zanima, jer ne mogu shvatiti taj rezon, koji cak i u prilicno uravnotezenom covjeku stvori neku komandu a la "Star Wars naredjenje 66" da zaokruzi "pravu" boju, iako je nedvojbeno jasno da ta boja smrdi do neba.besana wrote:Pa kakve veze ima jel musliman ili nije? Pa nije on u tročlanom predsjedništvu BiH pa da je to presudno.![]()
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post-it
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#18 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
accused of being a Muslim? zar je biti musliman nešto zašto se optužuje? svašta
- lord-executioner
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accusing him of being a Muslim with an intent to undermine the United Statespost-it wrote:accused of being a Muslim? zar je biti musliman nešto zašto se optužuje? svašta
- minci
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E zar je biti, pa i kad kazes da imas u sebi i m od musliman je bitno za mnoge danas jer si tako odmah potencijalni uspavani terorista koji ce se kad tad probuditi i staviti bombu ili eksploziv oko pasa da ubije nevine ljude kao sto su i za Obamu vec bile objavljene slike u medijima kako kao musliman sa svojom zenom kao teroristi zauzimaju bijelu kucu!post-it wrote:accused of being a Muslim? zar je biti musliman nešto zašto se optužuje? svašta
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Upravo to, vecina njih smatra da je islam = terorizam a sto je najgore od svega i Bosanci su polako poceli da prihvataju to od zapada kao i sve druge i slicne gluposti i nemoralne radnje koje im oni medijski fino upakovano serviraju, pa su poceli islam da ravnaju sa teroristima jer sve malo i malo skrece se na to tema.minci wrote:E zar je biti, pa i kad kazes da imas u sebi i m od musliman je bitno za mnoge danas jer si tako odmah potencijalni uspavani terorista koji ce se kad tad probuditi i staviti bombu ili eksploziv oko pasa da ubije nevine ljude kao sto su i za Obamu vec bile objavljene slike u medijima kako kao musliman sa svojom zenom kao teroristi zauzimaju bijelu kucu!post-it wrote:accused of being a Muslim? zar je biti musliman nešto zašto se optužuje? svaštaA terorista ima od svake nacije i vjere ali danas je najvaznije odmah u medijima napisati ili objaviti da su taj i taj teroristicki akt izveli muslimani iako se kasnije ispostavi da su to ipak bili domaci ali vazna je prva reakcija kod ljudi da izazove mrznju prema islamu iako ne poznaju sustinu islama. Na ja bilo kako bilo u svakom slucaju bi bilo fenomenalno da je bar u dusi predan Bogu=musliman!
Da Allah dz.s prvo uputi sve nas ovdje u Bosni pa onda i njih u dalekoj Americi, amin
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#22 Re: OBAMA I ISLAM
imate temu o OBAMI, i tamo pisite sve sto vas interesuje, nemojte se rasipati po podforumima.
