Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
Novi svetski poredak..
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savjest
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#3 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
Ovo ce ti sugurno odgovarati !Lucy01 wrote:Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
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Nenadv24
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#4 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
UN ni tada nisu imale kredibilitet a ni prethodnih godina jer otkako postoje bile su marioneta prije svega SAD-a.Lucy01 wrote:Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
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Ped001
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#5 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
A ko danas nije marioneta SAD-a? Nema ih punoNenadv24 wrote:UN ni tada nisu imale kredibilitet a ni prethodnih godina jer otkako postoje bile su marioneta prije svega SAD-a.Lucy01 wrote:Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
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aris_angelis
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#6 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
Kuba, S. Koreja, Iran,Sirija i neke zapadno evropske zemlje,ostalo je sve pod Usa cizmom cak i Kina i Rusija.Ped001 wrote:A ko danas nije marioneta SAD-a? Nema ih punoNenadv24 wrote:UN ni tada nisu imale kredibilitet a ni prethodnih godina jer otkako postoje bile su marioneta prije svega SAD-a.Lucy01 wrote:Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
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digger
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#7 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
--Novi poredak? Sila boga ne moli.Lucy01 wrote:Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
--"My way or..." Bush je "lame" prezident. Valja izdrzati jos 3.5 godine sa najgorim politicarem u zadnjih osamedesetak godina. Mnogi u svijetu poistovjecuju Bushovu administraciju sa Amerikom, a to je najveca politicka nesreca za amerikance.
--Kakav kredibilitet? Ruanda? Dafour (Sudan)? UN su imale kredibilitet kratko nakon osnivanja. Prvo su velike sile s pravom veta drzale "vlast," onda su dosli "nesvrstani" da traze pravdu nadajuci se da kao vecina imaju glas i doveli UN na rub propasti (naivno vjerujuci da je jedna drzava = jedan glas). Na kraju su se svi oko OUN jeftino prodali podobnostima politikarenja i vodjstvu SAD. Cak i Kina i Rusi.
Sama mogucnost da je Kofi Anan imao i najdalju vezu oko prodaje nafte Iraku je zadnje sto ova potrebna ali bolesna institucija treba. Ali kada boljeg rjesenja nema, ovo ipak nesto vrijedi, jer je bolje i dalje sjediti i pricati. Nekada nesto dobro izadje iz istog.
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meatoverhere
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My way or the highway i jeste novi svjetski poredak. UN, kao nasljednica "Lige Naroda" su oformljene od strane zemalja pobjednica u II svjetskom ratu. Sastav savjeta bezbjednosti i spisak zemalja koje imaju pravo veta sve govori. Za vrijeme hladnog rata UN su imale kredibilitet samo kao pokrice za USA i SSSR i njihove medjusobne dogovore i prepucavanja. A nakon hladnog rata kredibilitet UN se najbolje ocitovao u BiH. UN su postale skoro pa nepotrebne, sto dokazuje situacija u Iraku. Postojace samo onoliko dugo i imace samo onoliko kredibiliteta koliko USA bude odgovaralo jer su oni pobjednici hladnog rata. I NATO je skoro postao irelevantan faktor, a kamoli UN. Svidjalo se to nekome ili ne, tako je to na danasnji vakat.
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Nenadv24
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#9 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
u Rusiji su imali uticaj za vrijeme vladavine Babuške a otkako je Putin na vlasti u određenoj mjeri se i promijenilo. Što se tiče Kine tu se ne bih složio ako misliš na NR Kinu (tamo nemaju ni približno uticaja koliko u postkomunističkim evropskim državama) a ne na R. Kinu(Taiwan).aris_angelis wrote:Kuba, S. Koreja, Iran,Sirija i neke zapadno evropske zemlje,ostalo je sve pod Usa cizmom cak i Kina i Rusija.Ped001 wrote:A ko danas nije marioneta SAD-a? Nema ih punoNenadv24 wrote: UN ni tada nisu imale kredibilitet a ni prethodnih godina jer otkako postoje bile su marioneta prije svega SAD-a.
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claybrain
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#11 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
sta ima u sandzaku? ides li na svoje selo za ovog ljeta?Lucy01 wrote:Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
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Lojo_Hasanovic
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Zar ovo nije zidovski vojnik u Palestini?muhamed_hr wrote:Ameri u iraku :
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St.Germain
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#13 Re: Novi svetski poredak..
UN nikad nije imala kredibilitet nit ce ga imat dok god se amerika kao jedan od najvecih finansijera citavog projekta ne bude ponasala bas tako kao sto si u prvoj recenici spomenula.Lucy01 wrote:Kako ga vidite?
Koliko stete novom poretku nanosi Bush i njegova politika "my way or the highway"?
Hoce li UN ikada vratiti kredibilitet koji su imale 10-15 godina unazad?
UN je samo farsa, to bi nama barem trebalo bit jasno
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Ne znam kakve su cijene goriva kod tebe...ali meni ovdje skocile 40%. Valjda placam za Bushov rat.Drug_Tito wrote:Imam problema sa Bushom ko svaki drugi, ali kada sjednem u kola i kada odem na pumpu i kada se prisjetim koliko vi placate u Evropi, meni nekako dobar covjek. Neka ga.
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zlata
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#19
ARAB LEAGUE-LATIN AMERICA SUMMIT
In a bid to counter the apparent global dominance of the United States, ministers from 33 South American and Arab League states have arrived in Brazil for the first-ever summit of leaders from the two regions.
Ministers meeting for the Summit of South American-Arab Countries, expected to open on Tuesday, will focus on ways to boost economic ties.
The summit, which brings together leaders from countries resentful of Washington's hand in everything from "regime changes" to rampant globalisation, is also expected to be a platform for forging new political alliances.
Washington is annoyed with Latin America strengthening ties with China, Russia and the Arab world, and senior US officials said they are waiting to read about the summit's position on "terrorism" in particular.
Princeton University's Amany Jamal, a Middle East political development expert, said it is important for the summit countries to not be seen as being bullied by the West.
"What better way to do that than re-establish dominance on another front," he said.
Developing nations
Rubbing shoulders in Brasilia will be leaders ranging from Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a self-proclaimed revolutionary and outspoken US critic, to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika and the summit host, Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
The event is part of Silva's push to unite developing nations on issues such as reform of the United Nations Security Council and the elimination of rich nations' subsidies for agriculture.
On Monday, Silva is to meet privately with the prime ministers of Syria, Lebanon and with Abbas. Later, he will host a dinner for Chavez and Argentinian President Nestor Kirchner, who angered investors in developed countries this year by paying only 30% on the dollar on Argentina's mammoth $103 billion debt default.
The summit could also serve as an initial step towards negotiations for a free trade agreement between two regions currently doing little business together.
Brazilian officials said a summit declaration will focus on social issues such as Silva's push to eradicate worldwide hunger, but it is unclear how summit participants will address touchy issues such as terrorism and the Middle East peace process.
Global politics
The meeting is billed as a step in so-called South-South cooperation to join the interests of poor countries so they have better negotiating power with rich nations that typically dominate global politics and trade negotiations.
South American countries are already moving forward quickly on that front by trying to boost political ties with Asia - particularly China - a major buyer of products ranging from Brazilian and Argentinian soy to Chilean copper.
Hugo Chavez has pushed for closeties between developing nations
The Middle East, however is Latin America's weakest regional trading partner.
Brazil, South America's largest economy, exports just $4 billion annually to the Middle East and imports $4.1 billion, mostly in petroleum.
But shipments of products such as sugar, beef and chicken from Brazil to the Middle East are exploding.
The Arab-Brazilian Chamber of Commerce estimates Brazilian exports to Arab countries could double within five years.
Ma nisu ni ovi budale. Traze kako zaobici Bushov monopol...dok Kinezi jos sute. U mednjuvremenu...samo je pitanje vremena dok Indija i Indonezija malo ne pokazu i svoje kandze.
Vrlo je ocito da Bush pokusava stvoriti nekakvo "demokratsko carstvo" pod Americkom kontrolom. Samo to je ocito neostvarivo. Svijetom ne vlada ideologija...nego $$$$$.
Vjerovali ili ne...ali Americkim strategicarima se gace tresu od Kineza. Dugorocno...Amerikanci samo mogu isplivati pri vrhu...samo kao jedna od velikih sila, nesto kao Britanija poslije "pada carstva". U medjuvremenu ovo sto "siju po svijetu"...ce samo imati kontra efekat....kao sto vidimo u slucaju Latinske Amerike i Arapskih Zemalja. Pa ne mogu ratovati sa svima. Sta ce sad? Napasti Venezuelu, Brazil, Arape, Maleziju.
Valja citati i Zidovske medije. Posto im je etnicki opstanak UBER ALLES...a narocito Izrael...vazda su pet koraka ispred Americkih medija. Mogu tek zamisliti Brasiliu ovih dana!!! Prepuna CIA i MOSSAD-ovih spijuna!!!
In a bid to counter the apparent global dominance of the United States, ministers from 33 South American and Arab League states have arrived in Brazil for the first-ever summit of leaders from the two regions.
Ministers meeting for the Summit of South American-Arab Countries, expected to open on Tuesday, will focus on ways to boost economic ties.
The summit, which brings together leaders from countries resentful of Washington's hand in everything from "regime changes" to rampant globalisation, is also expected to be a platform for forging new political alliances.
Washington is annoyed with Latin America strengthening ties with China, Russia and the Arab world, and senior US officials said they are waiting to read about the summit's position on "terrorism" in particular.
Princeton University's Amany Jamal, a Middle East political development expert, said it is important for the summit countries to not be seen as being bullied by the West.
"What better way to do that than re-establish dominance on another front," he said.
Developing nations
Rubbing shoulders in Brasilia will be leaders ranging from Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a self-proclaimed revolutionary and outspoken US critic, to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika and the summit host, Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
The event is part of Silva's push to unite developing nations on issues such as reform of the United Nations Security Council and the elimination of rich nations' subsidies for agriculture.
On Monday, Silva is to meet privately with the prime ministers of Syria, Lebanon and with Abbas. Later, he will host a dinner for Chavez and Argentinian President Nestor Kirchner, who angered investors in developed countries this year by paying only 30% on the dollar on Argentina's mammoth $103 billion debt default.
The summit could also serve as an initial step towards negotiations for a free trade agreement between two regions currently doing little business together.
Brazilian officials said a summit declaration will focus on social issues such as Silva's push to eradicate worldwide hunger, but it is unclear how summit participants will address touchy issues such as terrorism and the Middle East peace process.
Global politics
The meeting is billed as a step in so-called South-South cooperation to join the interests of poor countries so they have better negotiating power with rich nations that typically dominate global politics and trade negotiations.
South American countries are already moving forward quickly on that front by trying to boost political ties with Asia - particularly China - a major buyer of products ranging from Brazilian and Argentinian soy to Chilean copper.
Hugo Chavez has pushed for closeties between developing nations
The Middle East, however is Latin America's weakest regional trading partner.
Brazil, South America's largest economy, exports just $4 billion annually to the Middle East and imports $4.1 billion, mostly in petroleum.
But shipments of products such as sugar, beef and chicken from Brazil to the Middle East are exploding.
The Arab-Brazilian Chamber of Commerce estimates Brazilian exports to Arab countries could double within five years.
Ma nisu ni ovi budale. Traze kako zaobici Bushov monopol...dok Kinezi jos sute. U mednjuvremenu...samo je pitanje vremena dok Indija i Indonezija malo ne pokazu i svoje kandze.
Vrlo je ocito da Bush pokusava stvoriti nekakvo "demokratsko carstvo" pod Americkom kontrolom. Samo to je ocito neostvarivo. Svijetom ne vlada ideologija...nego $$$$$.
Vjerovali ili ne...ali Americkim strategicarima se gace tresu od Kineza. Dugorocno...Amerikanci samo mogu isplivati pri vrhu...samo kao jedna od velikih sila, nesto kao Britanija poslije "pada carstva". U medjuvremenu ovo sto "siju po svijetu"...ce samo imati kontra efekat....kao sto vidimo u slucaju Latinske Amerike i Arapskih Zemalja. Pa ne mogu ratovati sa svima. Sta ce sad? Napasti Venezuelu, Brazil, Arape, Maleziju.
Valja citati i Zidovske medije. Posto im je etnicki opstanak UBER ALLES...a narocito Izrael...vazda su pet koraka ispred Americkih medija. Mogu tek zamisliti Brasiliu ovih dana!!! Prepuna CIA i MOSSAD-ovih spijuna!!!