
Kupovina mlaznih aviona od Srbije?
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#1 Kupovina mlaznih aviona od Srbije?
Procitao sam negdje na forumu da Srbija zeli da Bosni prodao neke lovce, supergalebove? Da li neko zna vise o ovome? Kao da je ministar odbrane BiH otisao u Beograd da se dogovara oko ovoga...


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#2 Re: Kupovina mlaznih aviona od Srbije?
pa eto ,ne znam...al bar se za rezervne dijelove necemo morati brinuti,skidacemo ih sami s neba
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miop
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#3 Re: Kupovina mlaznih aviona od Srbije?
Prije ce biti da je obrnuto 
Vojska Srbije kupuje avione?
17. septembar 2008. | 08:49 | Izvor: Beta, Nezavisne novine
Beograd -- Vojska Srbije zainteresovana je za kupovinu jurišnih i školsko-borbenih mlaznih aviona Orao i Supergaleb, pišu Nezavisne novine.
Prema navodima Nezavisnih novina, prilikom nedavne posete ministra odbrane BiH Beogradu ministar odbrane Srbije Dragan Šutanovac interesovao se za kupovinu aviona Orao i Supergaleb, koji se inače koriste u Vojsci Srbije, a koji će u BiH verovatno biti otpisani ukoliko se potvrdi odluka da armija te zemlje ukine borbenu mlaznu avijaciju.
"Vojsku Srbije zanimaju avioni tipa Orao i Galeb, a činjenica je da ih, praktično, samo njima možemo i prodati. Ili to ili u staro gvožđe", rekao je Cikotić i naveo da je prerano govoriti o ceni.
U saopštenju koje je izdalo Ministarstvo odbrane Srbije u subotu, 13. septembra, navodi se da je za vreme posete ministra iz BiH bilo razgovora o zajedničkom korišćenju vojnih kapaciteta u BiH kao i mogućnost ima otkupa dela vojne imovine u BiH koja može da bude korisna Vojsci Srbije.
Saznaje se da je dogovoreno da uskoro u Banjaluku doputuju stručnjaci iz Vojske Srbije koji bi prekontrolisali u kojem se stanju nalaze ti avioni i koliko bi oni mogli da odgovore potrebama Vazduhoplovstva i protivvazduhoplovne odbrane Srbije.
Na aerodromu Mahovljani kod Banjaluke nalazi se ukupno 18 aviona iz sastava Prvog puka Vazduhoplovstva Vojske Republike Srpske koji su prizemljen i 2005. godine nakon integracije vojske bosanskih Srba u jedinstvenu oružanu silu BiH.
U sastavu lovačko-bombarderske eskadrile bivše VRS nalazi se deset aviona J-21 Jastreb, sedam J-22 Orao i jedan G-4 Supergaleb, od kojih se druga dva tipa i dalje koriste u Vojsci Srbije.
Avioni J-22 Orao i G-4 Supergaleb nalaze se u upotrebi u 241. i 252. lovačko-bombarderskoj eskadrili Vojske Srbije, a pojedine verzije letelica tog tipa lete i u 2. izviđačko-avijacijskom odeljenju i u sastavu Sektora za letnja ispitivanja Tehničko-opitnog centra.
Avioni tipa J-21 Jastreb izbačeni su iz upotrebe tadašnje Vojske Jugoslavije nakon potpisivanja Dejtonskog sporazuma 1995. godine kada je iz inventara izbrisano 66 letelica tog tipa.
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miop
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#4 Re: Kupovina mlaznih aviona od Srbije?
A o kakvim se izvanrednim borbenim avionima radi govori ovaj clanak:
The Banja Luka incident, February 28, 1994, was an incident in which six Republika Srpska Air Force-owned J-21 Jastreb single-seat light attack jets were engaged, and four of them shot down, by United States Air Force F-16s near Banja Luka, Bosnia.
NATO Airborne Early Warning aircraft (NAEW), while flying over Hungarian territory Under Operation Deny Flight on April 12, 1993, at 6:35 am., detected unknown tracks South of Banja Luka. Two NATO aircraft, U.S. Air Force F-16s, "Black 03" and "Black 04"[4], of the 526th Fighter Squadron "Black Knights", 86th Fighter Wing based in Aviano, were vectored to the area and intercepted six J-21 Jastreb and two J-22 Orao aircraft who were attacking the "Bratstvo" military factory of Novi Travnik.[5]
In accordance with the UN and NATO rules of engagement, orders to "land or exit the No-Fly Zone or be engaged" were issued twice but both warnings were ignored. While warnings were issued, the violating aircraft dropped bombs over their target. In such circumstances NATO has a "single key," meaning that only one clearance was needed, so the Combined Air Operations Center was immediately able to clear the F-16's to attack.
The Serbian Jastrebs headed northwards, back to their base. At 6:45 a.m., the NATO fighters engaged the planes. Captain Robert G. Wright fired his first AIM-120 AMRAAM, downing the first Jastreb which was flying at some 5,000 feet. The remaining Serbian Jastrebs dropped to a few hundred feet, flying at such a low level to use the mountainous terrain to hide from radar and make their escape back to Udbina. Capt. Wright pressed on, closing to within AIM-9 Sidewinder range. He fired two of his heat-seeking Sidewinder missiles, and they were seen to impact with the Serbian aircraft.
With his missiles all hitting their target but exhausted and low on fuel, Capt. Wright now handed over the chase to his wingman, Capt. Scott F. "Zulu" O'Grady, who had been flying top cover to his flight lead.
O'Grady dropped down to engage and fired a AIM-9M but it did not lock-on and missed. Black flight was now approaching "bingo fuel", the point at which a plane will not have enough fuel to return, so they pulled off to refuel from a KC-135 Stratotanker circling in orbit over the Adriatic. At the same time another pair of 526th Fighter Squadron F-16Cs, "Knight 25" and "Knight 26",[6] had been vectored to the area and took over the intercept by the AWACS. At 6:50 am, "Knight 25" managed to get in behind the remaining 3 Jastrebs. He launched a Sidewinder, downing another Serb J-21 Jastreb.
By now the Serbs were close to the international border and the F-16s had to break off the pursuit because the NATO was not empowered to engage aircraft outside Bosnian airspace. The remaining aircraft ware able to land at Udbina Air Base in the Republic of Serbian Krajina in Croatia.
The USAF officially credited three kills to Captain Robert Gordon "Wilbur" Wright,[7] flying F-16C-40 #89-2137/RS, using an AIM-120 AMRAAM and two AIM-9 Sidewinders; and one kill using an AIM-9 Sidewinder to Captain Stephen L. "Yogi" Allen [8] flying F-16C-40 #89-2009/RS[9] of the same unit.
The Serbian pilots involved were:
* Capt. 1st Class Ranko Vukmirović[10][11] † KIA
* Capt. 1st Class Zvezdan Pešić[10][11] † KIA
* Capt. 1st Class Goran Zarić[10][11] ejected at low altitude, † KIA
* Maj. Uroš Studen[11] ejected near Jajce, survived
* Capt. 1st Class Zlatko Mikerević[11] ejected probably near the villages of Bravsko and Crkveno, 9 miles west of Kljuc, survived
* Capt. 1st Class Zlatan Crnalić[12][11] landed at Udbina Airport with his J-21 Jastreb Sr.nr. 24275 badly damaged, the aircraft later re-entered in service.
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#5 Re: Kupovina mlaznih aviona od Srbije?
nesto kontam...idemo u nato i mi i oni
a ti avioni...ti supergalebi...
nasi su ustvari iz vojske rs...i nemaju ispucan broj sati leta.ustvari vise su su lezali nego letjeli....i sad srbija trazi te iste avione koje u svojoj avijaciji s ispucanim satima leta vec ima,.samo su nasi sa minimalnim satima leta...i sad ih srbija trazi....svoje ce koristiti za rezervne dijelove ovim nasim koje bi kupili.....
a nasi ce moci letjeti jos dugo jer su zbog raznoraznih stvari lezali,vec neki period
uglavnom ,bolje ih izrezati nego ih njima prodati....
a ti avioni...ti supergalebi...
nasi su ustvari iz vojske rs...i nemaju ispucan broj sati leta.ustvari vise su su lezali nego letjeli....i sad srbija trazi te iste avione koje u svojoj avijaciji s ispucanim satima leta vec ima,.samo su nasi sa minimalnim satima leta...i sad ih srbija trazi....svoje ce koristiti za rezervne dijelove ovim nasim koje bi kupili.....
uglavnom ,bolje ih izrezati nego ih njima prodati....
