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Dolina avalona
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Post by Dolina avalona » 15/07/2006 00:55

Dali je neko gledao ovaj istiniti film? Kakve su impresije?
Sta mislite o svim tim dogadjajima, o Saladinu i njegovim neprijateljima i ljudskoj ceznji da na zemlji stvori Raj?
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Post by Dazed&Confused » 17/07/2006 04:04

Ako se gleda film samo kao film, nista posebno. Pristojan trosatni zgubivrijem:). S druge strane, ako se gleda kao na nesto sto bi trebalo oslikati dio historije ljudskog roda... hrpetina smeca da se ne moze opisati kolika. Jedno jadno izvrtanje, ili u najmanju ruku friziranje, historijskih cinjenica.

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Post by Dolina avalona » 17/07/2006 05:52

@Dazed&Confused

Ako si gledao ovaj film, navedi mi konkretno sta nije istina u ovom filmu, sta je to izvrnuto!?!? :roll:

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Post by Helem » 17/07/2006 07:01

Nisam ni cuo za takav film ali prica o Saladinu i Ricardu Lavljeg Srca je izvrsna,jedna od najljepsih istinitih prica iz istorije borbe krscana protiv Arapa.
Malo dok se tema razradi,ispricati cu tu pricu,ako se neko ne sjeti prije mene to da uradi.

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Post by Dazed&Confused » 17/07/2006 12:21

Upisi na Wikipedii Saladin, kreni od njega pa onda citaj dalje o ostalim likovima koji se pojavljuju (ili ne pojavljuju u filmu), opsadi Jerusalema itd.

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Post by bleka » 17/07/2006 12:27

Oskoro ce NAssrulaah u Jerusalem uci :D i zasjeniti Saladina

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Post by gene » 17/07/2006 12:29

jedan od rijetkih filmova u kojem su muslimani prikazani u pravom svijetlu i nisu ocrnjeni
vrijedi pogledati u svakom slucaju sa popratnim razmisljanjem

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Post by Custos Morum » 17/07/2006 23:54

Iznenadujuce odlican film 9.5/10

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Post by Dolina avalona » 19/07/2006 06:04

Kada je rahmetli Saladin usao u Jerusalem, nije srusio krscanske objekte ni crkve, nije se osvetio krscanima te im je dao pravo da slobodno zive i ispoljavaju svoju vjeru, i od Jerusalema je napravio otvoren grad za sve ljude dobre volje...!

Nesto slicno kao nasa odbrambeno oslobodilacka borba 92-95. Nismo se svetili i necemo se nikada svetiti!

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Post by addo888 » 19/07/2006 06:37

Ko sisa Salahudina

Jerusalim nikada nije pripadao muslimanima!!!

Bas bi volio da hriscani osvoje Mekku i da nam daju slobodu na vjeru tamo,ali opet da Mekka bude njihova..pa bi vidjeli kako je to "FER"

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Post by ztluhcs » 19/07/2006 08:26

Zakljuèke izvodite sami...

It was now up to Richard and Saladin to finalize the surrender of the city. The Christians began to rebuild Acre’s defenses, and Saladin collected money to pay for the ransom of the imprisoned garrison. On August 11 Saladin delivered the first of the three planned payments and prisoner exchanges, but Richard rejected this because certain Christian nobles were not included. The exchange was broken off and further negotiations were unsuccessful. On August 20, Richard thought that Saladin had delayed too much, and had 2700 of the Muslim prisoners from the garrison of Acre killed, including women and children despite having promised that he would only sell the prisoners off.

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Despite his fierce opposition to the Christian powers, Saladin achieved a great reputation in Europe as a chivalrous knight, so much so that there existed by the 14th century an epic poem about his exploits, and Dante included him among the virtuous pagan souls in Limbo. The noble Saladin appears in a sympathetic light in Sir Walter Scott's The Talisman (1825). Despite the Crusaders' slaughter of Muslim men, women, and children when they originally conquered Jerusalem in 1099, Saladin granted amnesty and free passage to all common Catholics and even to the defeated Christian army (the Greek Orthodox Christians were treated better, because they opposed the crusades).

Despite the differences in beliefs, Saladin was respected by Christian lords, Richard especially. Richard once praised Saladin as a great prince, saying that he was without doubt the greatest and most powerful leader in the Islamic world.

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When Richard was crowned King of England, he barred all Jews and women from the ceremony (this was apparently a concession to the fact that his coronation was not merely one of a king but of a crusader), but some Jewish leaders showed up anyway to present gifts for the new king. According to Ralph of Diceto, Richard's courtiers stripped and flogged the Jews, then flung them out of court. When a rumor spread that Richard had ordered all Jews to be killed, the people of London joined in to persecute the Jews, and a massacre began. Many Jews were beaten to death, robbed, and burnt alive. Many Jewish homes were burned down and several Jews were forcibly baptised. Some sought sanctuary in the Tower of London, and others managed to escape. Among those killed was Jacob of Orléans, widely regarded as one of the most learned of the age.

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Saladin died on March 4, 1193 at Damascus, not long after Richard's departure. When they opened Saladin's treasury they found there was not enough money to pay for his funeral; he had given most of his money away in charity. His tomb, located in the Umayyad mosque, is now a major tourist attraction. His tomb is one of the most visited in the Muslim world.

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Post by FFK as Lucy01 » 19/07/2006 19:35

Ja sam se uvijek pitala cija je ameba postala prva (za ateiste) ili koju je religiju Bog prvo stvorio (za vjernike) :D da budem politicki korektna :D :D

Malo je sto ne mozemo da pronadjemo ko je prvi dosao na BiH prostore, 'ajde malo i o Jerusalemu da raspravljamo :D

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Post by NIN » 19/07/2006 21:17

Vjerski ratovi oko NICEGA!

Preciznije mozemo naci u RELEVANTNIM knjigama koje su dostupne svakomu.

Nista vise, niti vrijedno spomena osim miliona zrtava sto u NISTA dadose svoje zivote!!

Pozdrav...

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