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Joy Division

Post by Aqualung » 01/05/2009 02:57

Engleski rock (dark) bend formiran 1976 god.Članovi benda su: Ian Curtis , Bernard Sumner ,Peter Hook i Stephen Morris. Ian Curtis je pjevač(najvažniji član benda) ,tj. on čini grupu mračnom,mističnom,samorazarajućom.Jedna od najdepresivnijih pjesama je She`s Lost Control .Da li je zaista pjevao o izgubljenoj eplieptičarki koja svaki dan na berzi bezuspješno traži posao, ili je pjevao o sebi? Originalni ples,za koji se nekad nije znalo da li pleše ili ima napad epilepsije. Njegove predivne velike plave oči pune očaja,tuge,gorčine,neshvaćenosti i tajanstvenosti . Muzika koja čovjeka ne ostavlja ravnodušna. Kroz pjesme se može osjetiti koliko je patio,borio se sa samim sobom,u ovom surovom svijetu jednostavno da preživi.Bolest ga je na žalost prožrela u jednom zalogaju.Imao je samo 23 godine kada se ubio. Zanima me,da li još neko sluša Joy Division?
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I šta misli o Ianu Curtisu?



She`s Lost Control

Confusion in her eyes that says it all.
She's lost control.
And she's clinging to the nearest passer by,
She's lost control.
And she gave away the secrets of her past,
And said I've lost control again,
And a voice that told her when and where to act,
She said I've lost control again.

And she turned around and took me by the hand and said,
I've lost control again.
And how I'll never know just why or understand,
She said I've lost control again.
And she screamed out kicking on her side and said,
I've lost control again.
And seized up on the floor, I thought she'd die.
She said I've lost control.
She's lost control again.
She's lost control.
She's lost control again.
She's lost control.

Well I had to 'phone her friend to state my case,
And say she's lost control again.
And she showed up all the errors and mistakes,
And said I've lost control again.
But she expressed herself in many different ways,
Until she lost control again.
And walked upon the edge of no escape,
And laughed I've lost control.
She's lost control again.


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Re: Joy Division

Post by johnnie_gott » 01/05/2009 16:20

jeben jeben band!

medju najboljim bandovima ;)

najbolja im je pjesma No Love Lost .....:hail:

je li ko gledao film Control(radjen po knjizi Ianove zenne),radi se o Ianu Curtisu?

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Re: Joy Division

Post by Izmedju CVile i DMalte » 01/05/2009 17:13

za aqualung: izgleda da svaka generacija otkriva bendove cije svjetlo nikad ne tamni, a JD su mozda i najsjajniji jer nikad nisu postali toliko poznati i jos manje komercijalni...poslusaj i New Order koji su nastavili nakon Ianove smrti pod novim imenom, pa onda Wire, pa Bauhaus, Killing Joke, The Stranglers, Television, XTC, Gang Of Four....ako naletis igdje nadji i na prevod Ian-ovih tekstova (u stvari cista poezija) "Svetla u podrumu duse", mislim da je to objavila tadasnja Niska studentska knjizara...imas i dans bendova koji se ne stide da zvuce k'o JD, a zvuce jako dobro i originalno, prije svih Interpol, White Lies....eto, javi ako ti se sta svidi...pozz uz transmission

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Re: Joy Division

Post by le piaf » 01/05/2009 17:58

da vrlo neuobicajena muzika...I like it
She`s Lost Control depresija koja ide vec svojim poznatim tokom kroz nebulozu mojih misli

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Re: Joy Division

Post by seshat » 01/05/2009 19:37

najdraža pjesma love will tear us apart

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Re: Joy Division

Post by DeewaniGirl » 01/05/2009 19:47

Izmedju CVile i DMalte wrote:izgleda da svaka generacija otkriva bendove cije svjetlo nikad ne tamni


tako je... :)
da li je neko cuo za bend "White Lies"? Za njih se kaze da su novi Joy Division... nisu losi, i ako nemislim da se bas daju uporediti

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Re: Joy Division

Post by Aqualung » 02/05/2009 07:46

Izmedju CVile i DMalte wrote:za aqualung: izgleda da svaka generacija otkriva bendove cije svjetlo nikad ne tamni, a JD su mozda i najsjajniji jer nikad nisu postali toliko poznati i jos manje komercijalni...poslusaj i New Order koji su nastavili nakon Ianove smrti pod novim imenom, pa onda Wire, pa Bauhaus, Killing Joke, The Stranglers, Television, XTC, Gang Of Four....ako naletis igdje nadji i na prevod Ian-ovih tekstova (u stvari cista poezija) "Svetla u podrumu duse", mislim da je to objavila tadasnja Niska studentska knjizara...imas i dans bendova koji se ne stide da zvuce k'o JD, a zvuce jako dobro i originalno, prije svih Interpol, White Lies....eto, javi ako ti se sta svidi...pozz uz transmission




Da da, bend je skroz drukčiji od ostalih ponuđenih,previše iskren.Naročito mi se sviđa Ianov ples i inače čitava atmosfera mi je briljantna. Od prvog slušanja me Ian fascinirao. Imam prijevod od dvije-tri pjesme. New Order je solidan.Nisam ih nešto previše preslušala,par pjesama. Valjda zbog sve te pažnje poklonjene Joy Divisionu , nije mi bilo baš interesantno slušati i istraživati New Order, jer ipak je Ian činio Joy Division i tu ekipu. Što se tiče tih bendova koje ste nabrojali, Bauhaus mi je jedan od najdražih bendova. Sami počeci darka. Killing Joke sam slušala,fenomenalan je. Ove ostale bendove ću svakako istražiti,hvala na savjetu. :)

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Re: Joy Division

Post by Izmedju CVile i DMalte » 02/05/2009 12:00

za Aqualung: pazi, New Order su postali institucija za sebe, nesto iz cega je izasla citava britanska kasnija house, techno i klupska scena (poslusaj Blue Monday i samo ce ti se kasti :)), sto se tice muzike meni je to najdrazi bend uz Cocteau Twins i Dead Can Dance (plus one kompilacije obrada pod imenom This Mortal Coil)....a kroz sve se provlaci Ian i ta atmosfera koja te privukla...na kraju, dok slusas New Order obrati paznju na basistu - tek tu je dosao do izrazaja....pozz, jashar

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Re: Joy Division

Post by Aqualung » 04/05/2009 01:12

Izmedju CVile i DMalte wrote:za Aqualung: pazi, New Order su postali institucija za sebe, nesto iz cega je izasla citava britanska kasnija house, techno i klupska scena (poslusaj Blue Monday i samo ce ti se kasti :)), sto se tice muzike meni je to najdrazi bend uz Cocteau Twins i Dead Can Dance (plus one kompilacije obrada pod imenom This Mortal Coil)....a kroz sve se provlaci Ian i ta atmosfera koja te privukla...na kraju, dok slusas New Order obrati paznju na basistu - tek tu je dosao do izrazaja....pozz, jashar



Hoću,poslušat ću. Dobar je inače New Order,ali nisam bila baš puno posvetila pažnje tom bendu,ima tona muzike pa mi nije palo napamet,ali sad ću ga baš istražiti jer svi govore da je odličan. A to Blue Monday sam čula od Billie Holiday,pretpostavljam da je i od njih odlično. Dead Can Dance,uh pravo dobar alternativan bend.

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Re: Joy Division

Post by andrija2007 » 04/05/2009 01:24

Aqualung, ako ti se svidjaju "Dead can dance",onda bi ti se mozda mogli svidjeti "Luar na lubre" npr album
Cabo do mundo, zvukom su donekle slicni, oni su iz Galicije, gdje su se sacuvale keltske tradicije,ali nije new age
pomodarstvo. Imaju svjez zvuk i prijatni su za slusanje kao i "Dead can dance".

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Re: Joy Division

Post by andrija2007 » 04/05/2009 01:56

A sto se tice Joy division, nisam ih cuo od kraja 70-tih, sjecam se da su na albumu Closer koristili mellotron,
to je instrument koji je pomocu magnetofonskih traka reprodukovao zvukove akusticnih instrumenata, npr violina itd.
On daje onaj donekle "avetinjski" ili gotski zvuk violina koji je koristen od grupa iz 60-tih i 70-tih.
Prvi su ga koristili Beatles na pjesmi "Strawberry fields forever", zvuk blok flauta u uvodu pjesme, zatim Moody blues,
pjesma Night in white satin, zvuk violina, i maestralno koristenje mellotrona od strane grupe King crimson na
albumu iz 69-te "In the court of Crimson king"
Krajem 70-tih taj zvuk je vec bio "prevazidjen" izasao iz mode razvojem sintisajzera, tako kad su ga Joy division
koristili zvucao je bas arhaicno i depresivno sto su oni naravno i htjeli da bi stvorili tragicnu atmosferu u cemu su i
uspjeli.
Evo bas cu da skinem ponovo Closer, radoznao sam kako ce zvucati poslije toliko godina
Pozdrav!

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Re: Joy Division

Post by LSD » 04/05/2009 21:38

Izmedju CVile i DMalte wrote:za aqualung: izgleda da svaka generacija otkriva bendove cije svjetlo nikad ne tamni, a JD su mozda i najsjajniji jer nikad nisu postali toliko poznati i jos manje komercijalni...poslusaj i New Order koji su nastavili nakon Ianove smrti pod novim imenom, pa onda Wire, pa Bauhaus, Killing Joke, The Stranglers, Television, XTC, Gang Of Four....ako naletis igdje nadji i na prevod Ian-ovih tekstova (u stvari cista poezija) "Svetla u podrumu duse", mislim da je to objavila tadasnja Niska studentska knjizara...imas i dans bendova koji se ne stide da zvuce k'o JD, a zvuce jako dobro i originalno, prije svih Interpol, White Lies....eto, javi ako ti se sta svidi...pozz uz transmission

sve sama krema i elita ovi nabrojani :thumbup:
dodao bih jos The Cure (posebno prva 3 albuma),Siouxie and the banshees,Sisters of mercy (i njihove nasljednike Mission UK),christian death.
Ali ipak su Joy Division i Bauhaus za koplje iznad ostalih...od novijih Interpol je vrlo dobar.

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Re: Joy Division

Post by black » 18/05/2009 12:45

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IAN CURTIS 15 JULY 1956 - 18 MAY 1980 (18. MAY 2009)

"At this moment I wish I were dead. I just can't cope anymore". ( Ian Curtis )
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I've been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand
Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?
These sensations barely interest me for another day
I've got the spirit, lose the feeling, take the shock away
It's getting faster, moving faster now, it's getting out of hand
On the tenth floor, down the backstairs, it's a no man's land
Lights are flashing, cars are crashing, getting frequent now
I've got the spirit, lose the feeling, let it out somehow
What means to you, what means to me, and we will meet again
I'm watching you, I'm watching her, I'll take no pity from your friends
Who is right, who can tell, and who gives a damn right now
Until the spirit new sensation takes hold, then you know
I've got the spirit, but lose the feeling
Feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling.


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Re: Joy Division

Post by le piaf » 11/05/2010 13:47

bio sinoc Control...

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Re: Joy Division

Post by kecher II » 17/05/2010 14:32

vidjeh ovu temu i ustanem i pustim Joy Division ''unknown pleasures'' i bas mi je drago da vidim da ljudi vole muziku poput Joy Division, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Siouxie and the Banshees i Creatures i sl


Insight

Guess the dreams always end
They don't rise up, just descend
But I don't care anymore
I've lost the will to want more
I'm not afraid not at all
I watch them all as they fall
But I remember when we were young

Those with habits of waste
Their sense of style and good taste
Of making sure you were right
Hey don't you know you were right?
I'm not afraid anymore
I keep my eyes on the door
But I remember...

Tears of sadness for you
More upheaval for you
Reflects a moment in time
A special moment in time
Yeah we wasted our time
We didn't really have time
But we remember when we were young

And all God's angels beware
And all you judges beware
Sons of chance take good care
For all the people not there
I'm not afraid anymore
I'm not afraid anymore
I'm not afraid anymore
Oh, I'm not afraid anymore

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Re: Joy Division

Post by black » 17/05/2010 17:18

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IAN CURTIS 15 JULY 1956 - 18 MAY 1980 (18. MAY 20010)

"At this moment I wish I were dead. I just can't cope anymore". ( Ian Curtis )

_________________

In fear every day, every evening
He calls her aloud from above
Carefully watched for a reason
Painstaking devotion and love

Surrendered to self preservation
From others who care for themselves
A blindness that touches perfection
But hurts just like anything else

Isolation, Isolation, Isolation

Mother, I tried, please believe me
I'm doing the best that I can
I'm ashamed of the things I've been put through
I'm ashamed of the person I am

Isolation, Isolation, Isolation

But if you could just see the beauty
These things I could never describe
These pleasures a wayward distraction
This is my one broken prize

Isolation, Isolation, Isolation

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Re: Joy Division

Post by kecher II » 19/05/2010 13:09

Juce, 18.05.2010. se navršilo trideset godina od smrti Iana Curtisa, pjevača Joy Divisiona.


Dead Souls

Someone take these dreams away
That point me to another day
A duel of personalities
That stretch all true realities

And keep calling me
They keep calling me
Keep on calling me
They keep calling me

Where figures from the past stand tall
And mocking voices ring the hall
Imperialistic house of prayer
Conquistadors who took their share

And keep calling me
They keep calling me
Keep on calling me
They keep calling me

Calling me, calling me, calling me, calling me

They keep calling me
Keep on calling me
They keep calling me
They keep calling me

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Re: Joy Division

Post by pin-up » 09/08/2011 00:41

Skoro pa najdraža, New Dawn Fades:

A change of speed, a change of style.
A change of scene, with no regrets,
A chance to watch, admire the distance,
Still occupied, though you forget.
Different colours, different shades,
Over each mistakes were made.
I took the blame.
Directionless so plain to see,
A loaded gun won't set you free.
So you say.

We'll share a drink and step outside,
An angry voice and one who cried,
'We'll give you everything and more,
The strain's too much, can't take much more.'
I've walked on water, run through fire,
Can't seem to feel it anymore.
It was me, waiting for me,
Hoping for something more,
Me, seeing me this time,
Hoping for something else.

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Re: Joy Division

Post by shin » 09/08/2011 00:51

Ja bih se nadovezao na Joy Division



Genijalna stvar.

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Re: Joy Division

Post by ticklemeelma » 09/08/2011 23:51

jos nisam odlucila dali joy division = ili > ili < new order... zbog ove pjesme:

"True Faith" - New Order

I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
I don't care 'cause I'm not there
And I don't care if I'm here tomorrow
Again and again I've taken too much
Of the things that cost you too much
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...

When I was a very small boy,
Very small boys talked to me
Now that we've grown up together
They're afraid of what they see
That's the price that we all pay
Our valued destiny comes to nothing
I can't tell you where we're going
I guess there was just no way of knowing
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...

I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
The chances are we've gone too far
You took my time and you took my money
Now I fear you've left me standing
In a world that's so demanding
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...

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Re: Joy Division

Post by shin » 10/08/2011 00:16

Mislio je ja linkati, ali mi bilo ofirno da miniram temu :lol:



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Re: Joy Division

Post by ticklemeelma » 10/08/2011 04:10

...bas bi bilo ofirno temu minirati. :P

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Re: Joy Division

Post by ticklemeelma » 10/08/2011 14:49

ova je meni predobra...


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Re: Joy Division

Post by tandrlike_chandrlike » 10/08/2011 15:13

:D
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Re: Joy Division

Post by ticklemeelma » 10/08/2011 17:17

tandrlike_chandrlike wrote::D
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:lol: :thumbup:

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