Red Lake. Pa dokle ce ovo ovako? Sta se desava sa mladim Amerima? Da li
je to Americka kampanja konstatnog zastrasivanja, sto predlaze M.Moore, ili
depresija ili oboje? Mozda nesto trece?
Postidio sam se..novalic wrote:samo jednu da napomenem..
samo vi priosipajte nasilje.. mogo je i bolje, kazete.. zivjeti u duhu nasilja, sve dok nam jedan dan ne bude kao i amerima, kada djeca odrasla i odgojena u nasilju budu uzimala oruzje u ruke, i pucala po nevinoj djeci... za sitnicu.. ili zato sto za drugo ne znaju...
ko ce vam tada brojati.. jel' moglo i bolje..
Sto li se to ti najednom uozbilji....novalic wrote:samo jednu da napomenem..
samo vi priosipajte nasilje.. mogo je i bolje, kazete.. zivjeti u duhu nasilja, sve dok nam jedan dan ne bude kao i amerima, kada djeca odrasla i odgojena u nasilju budu uzimala oruzje u ruke, i pucala po nevinoj djeci... za sitnicu.. ili zato sto za drugo ne znaju...
ko ce vam tada brojati.. jel' moglo i bolje..
Ma eto cisto me iznenadi jer zadnji put kad sam se raspravljao sa onom budaletinom extremistom i prebacivao mu upravo zlocine nad djecom i pucanje po sahranama, dobih od tebe kritiku "preozbiljnog shvatanja".novalic wrote:mogu sedo mile volje, ali kada neko kaze da mu nije zao djece..
onda se![]()
jer vidim da nam je humanost... slaba strana...
zato jedna neozbiljna i cesto vesela osoba.. ne bi mogla biti i svjesna i tuzna....
http://www.rferl.orgSrednjoškolac iz američke savezne države Minnesota u školi u indijanskom rezervatu ustrijelio je šestoro ljudi , medju kojima su učenici i školsko osoblje. Prethodno je ubio djeda i baku. Nakon pucnjeve u školi, dječak je izvršio samoubojstvo. Posljednji oružani incident u američkim školama zbio se 1999. u Coloradu kada su dvojica učenika ubili 13 kolega i nastavnika, a potom izvršili samoubojstvo.
enage gunman kills nine in US
Red Lake High School pupils cry after the shooting
Scene of the shooting
A US schoolboy has shot dead nine people - seven of them in a rampage through a school that ended when he apparently killed himself.
The teenage gunman's other two victims included his 58-year-old grandfather, authorities said.
At least 12 other people were hurt at Red Lake High School, on a Native American reservation in the northern state of Minnesota, the FBI said.
It was the deadliest US school shooting since the Columbine killings in 1999.
I looked him [the gunman] in the eye and ran in the room, and that's when I hid
Sondra Hegstrom
Witness
School shooting timeline
In April of that year, two teenage gunmen killed 13 people and themselves at Columbine high school in Colorado.
Monday's carnage began when the boy, identified in local media as 17-year-old Jeff Weise, shot dead his grandfather - veteran police officer Daryl Lussier - and his partner at their home in the Red Lake reservation, about 240 miles (390km) north of the state capital, St Paul.
Map showing the location of the shootings
Armed with several weapons, including his grandfather's police revolver, he then went to the school, reports said.
The youth shot a security officer at the door and walked down the hallway to a classroom, where he began firing at pupils and a teacher.
One survivor, Red Lake pupil Sondra Hegstrom, told the Pioneer of Bemidji newspaper: "You could hear a girl saying, 'No, Jeff. Quit! Quit! Leave me alone. Why are you doing this?'
"Boom, boom, boom, and then no more screaming."
'Darkest hour'
Other witnesses said the teenage gunman was "grinning and waving" as he fired. Pupils and teachers dived for cover and used mobile phones to call police.
US SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
April 2003: Teenager shoots dead headteacher, then kills himself, at Pennsylvania school
April 1999: Two teenagers shoot dead 12 pupils and a teacher, then kill themselves at Columbine School, Colorado
May 1998: Fifteen-year-old shoots dead two pupils in school cafeteria in Oregon
March 1998: Two boys, aged 11 and 13, kill four klix and a teacher in Arkansas
October 1997: Teenager stabs mother, then shoots dead two pupils at school in Mississippi
When the police arrived, the boy exchanged gunfire with them before retreating to a classroom, where he is believed to have shot himself, FBI spokesman Paul McCabe said.
Red Lake tribe chairman Floyd Jourdain said: "This is, without doubt, the darkest hour in the history of our tribe.
"It's extremely painful. The community is in utter shock. Our hearts go out to the families."
The FBI said it was too early to speculate on a motive for the shootings, but Weise's fellow pupils said he was teased because he always dressed in black.
The school - close to the Canadian border - has about 300 pupils.
The reservation is home to native Americans of the Chippewa tribe.
Ne mogu je naci (temu), nije toliko ni vazno...znam da je onaj provokator otvorio 5 tema na kojima se zestoka rasprava vodila, zatim je neko otvorio temu pod nazivom "ista tema" gdje smo se svi forumasi zezali na racun provokatora. Mislim da se radilo o Caci i Srpskim snjperistima, i ja mu navedoh primjer pucanja snajpera po sahrani Srpskog dijeteta koje je ubijeno u konvoju izlazeci iz Sarajeva. E na taj komentar ti napisa nesto u stilu " joj ne mogu ovih sto sve ozbiljno shvataju", na sto sam se ja slozio i odgovorio "imas vala i pravo sa budalama se samo i treba zajebavat".novalic wrote:prebacivao mu upravo zlocine nad djecom i pucanje po sahranama, dobih od tebe kritiku "preozbiljnog shvatanja".
iskreno receno, ne sjecam se.. ako imas temu da pogledam.. jer zlocin nad djetetom je za mene zlocin nad djetetom, bez varijacija.. bilo koje vrste....
mozda je bilo "preozbiljno shvatanje" nekog nesporazuma, pa ako moze naziv teme.. da se popravim.... i da upozorim ako mi je nekada do zajebancije u vezi nasilja nad djecom
Eto bas lijepo....mirna Bosnanovalic wrote:stvarno ?jazzer wrote:Svo zlo je krenulo od mene.
Žao mi je, kajem se.
ako jeste, onda ok....