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IRAN
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#21751 Re: IRAN
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#21752 Re: IRAN
Nije samo do camaca vec i onoga ispod vode i na obali. Jednostavno, u perzijskom zalivu Iran ima najjacu projekciju moci od svih zemalja u okruzenju. Da je britanski brod zapucao, mogao bi da bira kako da ga potope, torpedima sa podmornica, protivbrodskim raketama sa iranskih glisera ili protivbrodskim raketama sa obale.славянин wrote:Eh vidis mozemo i bez uvreda , pa da nastavimo. Sta mislis cime bi recimo jedan ratni brod gadjao camac tj. cim ga je moguce gadjati - Krstarecom,antibrodskom ili nekom drugom raketom ili automatskim topovima i teskim mitraljezima... onako sta ti mislis - pa onda sta mislis koliki je domet tih mitraljeza i topova ?salik79 wrote:
Ma ja, oglasio se onako, reda radi... Sta znaci dovoljno blizu, kada kaze blizu?! Koji je radijus djelovanja tog broda?!
A oglasavanje... da li ostavljas mogucnost blefa ? ono jel ti se to cini kao realna mogucnost... mozda realnija od one bjezi ratni brod od dva camca jer su na njima andjeoski gardisti ?
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#21753 Re: IRAN
mirsek wrote:Nije samo do camaca vec i onoga ispod vode i na obali. Jednostavno, u perzijskom zalivu Iran ima najjacu projekciju moci od svih zemalja u okruzenju. Da je britanski brod zapucao, mogao bi da bira kako da ga potope, torpedima sa podmornica, protivbrodskim raketama sa iranskih glisera ili protivbrodskim raketama sa obale.славянин wrote:Eh vidis mozemo i bez uvreda , pa da nastavimo. Sta mislis cime bi recimo jedan ratni brod gadjao camac tj. cim ga je moguce gadjati - Krstarecom,antibrodskom ili nekom drugom raketom ili automatskim topovima i teskim mitraljezima... onako sta ti mislis - pa onda sta mislis koliki je domet tih mitraljeza i topova ?salik79 wrote:
Ma ja, oglasio se onako, reda radi... Sta znaci dovoljno blizu, kada kaze blizu?! Koji je radijus djelovanja tog broda?!
A oglasavanje... da li ostavljas mogucnost blefa ? ono jel ti se to cini kao realna mogucnost... mozda realnija od one bjezi ratni brod od dva camca jer su na njima andjeoski gardisti ?
Al', pazi, samo je njemu naumpalo da su englezi blefirali i da brod uopce nije bio tu. Tamam da je bio i 5, ili 10 km udaljen od tankera, za brod koji plovi brzinom od 52 km/h to nije nista. Bio bi tamo dok rece "sta bi?!".
But why would he warn the British Navy “not to risk their lives”?
The British Navy’s radar sweeps had discovered active mode missiles radar tracking them by means of their semi-radar homing from different launch platforms- main radars which could easily create a saturation attack designed to put the ship in a helpless position and eventually destroy it. The Iranian missiles were ready to firehad the commander of the UK vessel decided to engage with the Iranian fast boats.
Iranian missile platform launchers spread all along the Iranian coast overlooking the Straits of Hormuz had the four US vessels and the one UK naval ship in their sights, ready to engage. Other Iranian armed drones were in the air, also ready to engage, waiting for orders to dive on their selected targets. Iran has not revealed, to date, other more sophisticated missiles that it has manufactured and could put in service in case of war.
The UK commander of the Foxtrot 236 Royal Navy decided to let go of Stena Impero and allow the diplomacy of his government to take over, to avoid the potentially serious casualties inevitable in the case of a military confrontation.
Why did the IRGC officer order the British commander to keep away even if the HMS Montrose was within a reachable distance, along with another four US frigates, well-armed and potentially ready to engage?
When the British authority decided to extend the arrest of “Grace 1”, it basically ended the initiative of Emanuel Bonne (the French presidential envoy) to obtain the release of the Iranian super tanker. The UK’s decision to undermine its European partner’s initiative and abide by US policy showed the vulnerability of Europe’s fragile unity. London agreed to be an instrument of Trump’s policy.
This is when the Iranian Leader Sayyed Ali Khamenei ordered the commander of the IRGC Hussein Salameh to stop the first British ship and retaliate with a tit-for-tat. Following a meticulous overview of all ships navigating in the area, Salameh was informed about the Stena Impero, but also about the five western military ships in the vicinity. The IRGC commander informed Sayyed Khamenei who responded, according to a well-informed source: “Go with God’s blessing and have no fear. They will not dare to attack us”.
This is how the decision was taken, at the highest level of the Iranian leadership where the spiritual, military and political leadership were involved under the flag of “protecting the national interest and security of the country.”
Notwithstanding the UK position, Europe will not accept the US trap and become a shield for a war Washington would like to impose on the continent. British oil companies are changing the registrations of their ships and removing the British flag so as to sail safely through the Straits of Hormuz. BP, the giant British oil company which was the first to follow this procedure, is avoiding sending ships to the region, relying instead on proxies. This is a flagrant manifestation of its lack of trust in its own government’s decision, which is not in the interests of the UK but instead reflects a servile devotion to Trump administration policy.
There is a war risk premium that tanker owners pay when navigating in the Persian Gulf. They now have to pay an additional $185,000 for supertankers, in the wake of the attacks of recent months.
The IRGC has sent many messages by shooting down a US drone, by sabotaging tankers and by capturing another. They come down to a single message: if Iran does not export its oil, no country will. The arrival of a new UK Royal Navy ship, the HMS Duncan, will change nothing: it will add to the bank of objectives and list of Iranian targets available in the Persian Gulf in case of war. The US decision to revoke the nuclear deal not only made the Middle East less safe, but also has brought Russia further into the warm waters of the region: Iran has announced a joint naval exercise with Russia in the next months. Iran is bringing the Russians into what used to be the US’s “water playground”. Obviously, Washington’s “maximum pressure” is failing to produce the results the Americans predicted.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-did-t ... ro/5685433As long as Trump is in power, the situation in the Middle East will not stabilise. Not many people in the world believed the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo when he said the US sanctions are crippling Iran by up to 95%, and that Iran’s Middle Eastern influence is seriously affected by the US measures.
Iran is defying US hegemony and is ready for war, openly challenging the US and the UK. Tehran is welcoming Chinese and Russian support and is developing its missile capability to compensate for its lack of superiority in the sea and the air.
Iran counts on its missiles to impose its Rules of Engagement and is challenging both the US superpower and the UK with its imperial tradition.
The US is no longer in a position to dictate to Iran and “cut its nails”. Tehran is developing further its missile technology and nuclear capability. It is ready for the next step, which involves further partial withdrawal from the nuclear deal despite France and Germany’s efforts to proclaim their distance from the US attitude. The world will continue to focus on this part of the world, watching with anxiety how the US-Iran confrontation will unfold.
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#21754 Re: IRAN
Otprilike zato je taj brod morao biti blizu da bi nesto ucinio tj kao ameri naprimjer otresu rafal ispred camaca i ovi se okrenu i kuci. Sta su mogli uraditi kada su se Iranci vec ukrcali na brod .. pa onda su mogli da ili udju u rat sa Iranom i da budu prvi koji je pucao ili nista... Ne brini sumnjam da se Iranu jednako ne ulazi u rat (zato su se okrenuli prije toga kada su pokusali oteti onaj prvi brit tanker) - doduse ovi sto su na sigurnom po eu i rade za njemacke firme su sigurni u iran i nemaju problema da isti ratujemirsek wrote:Nije samo do camaca vec i onoga ispod vode i na obali. Jednostavno, u perzijskom zalivu Iran ima najjacu projekciju moci od svih zemalja u okruzenju. Da je britanski brod zapucao, mogao bi da bira kako da ga potope, torpedima sa podmornica, protivbrodskim raketama sa iranskih glisera ili protivbrodskim raketama sa obale.славянин wrote:Eh vidis mozemo i bez uvreda , pa da nastavimo. Sta mislis cime bi recimo jedan ratni brod gadjao camac tj. cim ga je moguce gadjati - Krstarecom,antibrodskom ili nekom drugom raketom ili automatskim topovima i teskim mitraljezima... onako sta ti mislis - pa onda sta mislis koliki je domet tih mitraljeza i topova ?salik79 wrote:
Ma ja, oglasio se onako, reda radi... Sta znaci dovoljno blizu, kada kaze blizu?! Koji je radijus djelovanja tog broda?!
A oglasavanje... da li ostavljas mogucnost blefa ? ono jel ti se to cini kao realna mogucnost... mozda realnija od one bjezi ratni brod od dva camca jer su na njima andjeoski gardisti ?
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#21755 Re: IRAN
Da, kao kada su, recimo pucali iz onih brzih patrolnih brodova, sto su ih, zajedno s posadom i kompletnim naoruzanjem zarobili.славянин wrote:Otprilike zato je taj brod morao biti blizu da bi nesto ucinio tj kao ameri naprimjer otresu rafal ispred camaca i ovi se okrenu i kuci. Sta su mogli uraditi kada su se Iranci vec ukrcali na brod .. pa onda su mogli da ili udju u rat sa Iranom i da budu prvi koji je pucao ili nista... Ne brini sumnjam da se Iranu jednako ne ulazi u rat (zato su se okrenuli prije toga kada su pokusali oteti onaj prvi brit tanker) - doduse ovi sto su na sigurnom po eu i rade za njemacke firme su sigurni u iran i nemaju problema da isti ratujemirsek wrote:Nije samo do camaca vec i onoga ispod vode i na obali. Jednostavno, u perzijskom zalivu Iran ima najjacu projekciju moci od svih zemalja u okruzenju. Da je britanski brod zapucao, mogao bi da bira kako da ga potope, torpedima sa podmornica, protivbrodskim raketama sa iranskih glisera ili protivbrodskim raketama sa obale.славянин wrote: Eh vidis mozemo i bez uvreda , pa da nastavimo. Sta mislis cime bi recimo jedan ratni brod gadjao camac tj. cim ga je moguce gadjati - Krstarecom,antibrodskom ili nekom drugom raketom ili automatskim topovima i teskim mitraljezima... onako sta ti mislis - pa onda sta mislis koliki je domet tih mitraljeza i topova ?
A oglasavanje... da li ostavljas mogucnost blefa ? ono jel ti se to cini kao realna mogucnost... mozda realnija od one bjezi ratni brod od dva camca jer su na njima andjeoski gardisti ?
Imas li ti ikakav dokaz o tom nekom "pokusaju" zauzimanja tankera, osim izjava britanaca. Bilo kakav?! Ili cemo im, tek onako, vjerovati?!
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#21756 Re: IRAN
Evo ga opet kompleks mi smo booozija vojska najaci mi i ironci braca nasa masalasalik79 wrote:
Da, kao kada su, recimo pucali iz onih brzih patrolnih brodova, sto su ih, zajedno s posadom i kompletnim naoruzanjem zarobili.
Imas li ti ikakav dokaz o tom nekom "pokusaju" zauzimanja tankera, osim izjava britanaca. Bilo kakav?! Ili cemo im, tek onako, vjerovati?!Ono, necemo vjerovati iranskom demantu, ali cemo vjerovati britanskoj tvrdnji
Vjerovat cemo Iranskoj vladi naravno
Hrabra Iranska garda uz potporu Boga ne fula samo zauzima i otjeruje ratne brodove camcima masala braca da ih alah nagradi
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#21757 Re: IRAN
Daj dokaz! Barem jedan! Neku komunikaciju, poput ove, ili snimak. Iranci su tu vijest odmah demantovali i ismijali.славянин wrote:Evo ga opet kompleks mi smo booozija vojska najaci mi i ironci braca nasa masalasalik79 wrote:
Da, kao kada su, recimo pucali iz onih brzih patrolnih brodova, sto su ih, zajedno s posadom i kompletnim naoruzanjem zarobili.
Imas li ti ikakav dokaz o tom nekom "pokusaju" zauzimanja tankera, osim izjava britanaca. Bilo kakav?! Ili cemo im, tek onako, vjerovati?!Ono, necemo vjerovati iranskom demantu, ali cemo vjerovati britanskoj tvrdnji
Znaci stvarno pocinjem da sumnjam da si normalan.. ono ozbiljno. Pisao sam ti o dogadjaju mislim par dana prije nego su zarobili ovaj tanker kada su pokusali isto ali se ovaj isti ratni brod nasao u blizini.. ti si tada rekao da uopste nisu pokusali zauzeti taj brod (mislim na Irance) i poceo si kukati o piraciji i mundirima
- sada kada su uspjeli onda si totalno da iranci su krenuli da zarobljavaju brodove
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Vjerovat cemo Iranskoj vladi naravnozar je to upitno -par dana prije nego su uzeli ovaj tanker britanci prijavili da su pokusali zauzeti neki drugi tanker - tada nisu ali sada jesu.
Hrabra Iranska garda uz potporu Boga ne fula samo zauzima i otjeruje ratne brodove camcima masala braca da ih alah nagradi
Nakon toga su pokazali kako izgleda kada odluce zauzeti tanker.
Citaj tekst gore.
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#21758 Re: IRAN
Jesi primjetio da rijetko koja zemlja se bavi propagandom osim one u kojoj rezim se osjeca nesigurnimsalik79 wrote:
Daj dokaz! Barem jedan! Neku komunikaciju, poput ove, ili snimak. Iranci su tu vijest odmah demantovali i ismijali.
Nakon toga su pokazali kako izgleda kada odluce zauzeti tanker.
Citaj tekst gore.
Razimsljanje na nivou djeteta od 8 godina, saad smo uzeli igracku onu prije njisam htjeo - nasa igrackaa
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#21760 Re: IRAN
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Medjutim svi lazu samo presveto svjetlo Bozije preko irana obasjava svijet a cuvaju ga hrabri gardisti revolucije - masala rehber
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#21761 Re: IRAN
Ko je izjavio i cim je to dokazao?!славянин wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-iran ... 1562822874salik79 wrote:![]()
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Ovo je prije nego su zauzeli ovaj steno impera...
Medjutim svi lazu samo presveto svjetlo Bozije preko irana obasjava svijet a cuvaju ga hrabri gardisti revolucije - masala rehber
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#21762 Re: IRAN
salik79 wrote:Ko je izjavio i cim je to dokazao?!славянин wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-iran ... 1562822874salik79 wrote:![]()
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Ovo je prije nego su zauzeli ovaj steno impera...
Medjutim svi lazu samo presveto svjetlo Bozije preko irana obasjava svijet a cuvaju ga hrabri gardisti revolucije - masala rehber
Naravno posto nisu Iranci oni lazu a Iranci uvijek govore istinu - kao naprimjer kada potpisuju da nece naftu u siriji istovaritiLONDON – Iranian ships attempted to obstruct a British-flagged commercial oil tanker as it sailed in the Persian Gulf, Britain's Defense Ministry said, a move that comes amid heightened tensions over a 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and world powers.
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#21763 Re: IRAN
To nesto kao onaj news od jucer?!славянин wrote:salik79 wrote:Ko je izjavio i cim je to dokazao?!славянин wrote: https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-iran ... 1562822874![]()
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Ovo je prije nego su zauzeli ovaj steno impera...
Medjutim svi lazu samo presveto svjetlo Bozije preko irana obasjava svijet a cuvaju ga hrabri gardisti revolucije - masala rehberNaravno posto nisu Iranci oni lazu a Iranci uvijek govore istinu - kao naprimjer kada potpisuju da nece naftu u siriji istovaritiLONDON – Iranian ships attempted to obstruct a British-flagged commercial oil tanker as it sailed in the Persian Gulf, Britain's Defense Ministry said, a move that comes amid heightened tensions over a 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and world powers.ti znas naprimjer cesto isto da lagis i znas da lagis ali to radis za velikog rehbera tako da je ok ... elhamdulila protiv neprijatelja
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#21764 Re: IRAN
Koji izvor ti je kredibilan... osim irib-asalik79 wrote:
To nesto kao onaj news od jucer?!
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#21768 Re: IRAN
Pozalice onaj kapetan sto nije zakacio cifru, premda nesto dougovlaci sa istovarom.
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#21769 Re: IRAN
Watch: Iran supplies oil to the Syrian people, while the ‘civilized world’ aims to prevent it

https://www.syriana-analysis.com/watch- ... revent-it/

https://www.syriana-analysis.com/watch- ... revent-it/
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#21770 Re: IRAN
E da je neki nas Bosnjo kapetan tog tankera sad bi vec bio negdje na Havajima ispod palmi na obali mora...Edin H. wrote:Pozalice onaj kapetan sto nije zakacio cifru, premda nesto dougovlaci sa istovarom.
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#21771 Re: IRAN
Saudijska Arabija se boji utjecaja Irana i smatram da se trebaju pomiriti i da se prestane sa ratohuskanjem.
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#21772 Re: IRAN
Saudija se ne boji nikoga osim Huta...Ljuci wrote:Saudijska Arabija se boji utjecaja Irana i smatram da se trebaju pomiriti i da se prestane sa ratohuskanjem.

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#21773 Re: IRAN
Zasto?Edin H. wrote:Pozalice onaj kapetan sto nije zakacio cifru, premda nesto dougovlaci sa istovarom.
I, ne odugovlaci... Sta mislis, koliko je potrebno za istovar 2.1 miliona barela nafte?
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#21774 Re: IRAN
Nadzornik wrote:Watch: Iran supplies oil to the Syrian people, while the ‘civilized world’ aims to prevent it
https://www.syriana-analysis.com/watch- ... revent-it/
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#21775 Re: IRAN
Istovar tankera uspjesno okoncan, uprkos svim smicalicama 
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/09/ ... ena-Impero
Uskoro bi mogao biti pusten i britanski tanker

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/09/ ... ena-Impero
Uskoro bi mogao biti pusten i britanski tanker

