IRAN

[славянин]

Sprem'te se sprem'te ameriiii
Dugo se spremaju, majku mu

Ko i Iranci na Jeruzalem.

[salik79]

Pa nije ni Iran bas bio tu 92-e trece

Da li si pritisnuo play i poslusao?

Sta cu slusati? Jesu bili tu 92-e?
Shvatas da je to ne bitno? Kad god da su dosli dosli su uz americki pristanak

Pa, preslusaj. Lijepo covjek kaze da su prvo kucali na vrata Amerike, Njemacke i Turske. I da su ona ostala zatvorena... Hajde, preslusaj.

[rajv0sa]

Nadam se da ce Bosnjaci da poznaju prave prijatelje Iran i da ih prigrle.Kao i da vide ko su im pravi neprijatelji a to je NATO i zapad.
Sa srecom da je

Mozgiću ne mora to dvoje biti odvojeno, mnoge zemlje na zapadu su i danas u dobrim odnosima sa iranom, pa i taj nato nije problem. Nije bilo ni problem tokom rata u BiH, ali kako bi ti to znao. Drži se ti laprdana o "bošnjačkom nacionalizmu".

A što se tiče ovog stručnjaka koji barata godinama ahmetli Alija Izetbegović je još 1992 boravio u posjeti Teheranu na poziv iranskih vlasti. Dotok oružja je tekao i prije sukoba sa hrvatima.

[salik79]

Da se podsjetimo razlike izmedju iranse i americke pomoci BiH:

-The CIA discovered that the Iranians gave Izetbegovic at least two pieces of luggage stuffed with money, each containing about $250,000, to help fund his campaign in the weeks leading up to the elections, according to the documents.

The allegations have buttressed the CIA's belief that Iranian influence in Bosnia remains strong more than a year after the Dayton peace accords--contradicting the Clinton administration's public assertions that U.S. pressure has forced Bosnia's Muslim government to loosen its ties with Iran.

In fact, CIA analysts believe that Izetbegovic has been "co-opted by the Iranians" and is now "literally on their payroll," according to a classified report based on the CIA's analysis of the issue.

Despite this, administration officials acknowledged Monday that President Clinton agreed to release $100 million worth of U.S. military aid to Bosnia even after the CIA uncovered the Iranian payments to Izetbegovic and reported the information to administration policy-makers.

http://www.markdanner.com/articles/print/65

[славянин]

Nadam se da ce Bosnjaci da poznaju prave prijatelje Iran i da ih prigrle.Kao i da vide ko su im pravi neprijatelji a to je NATO i zapad.
Sa srecom da je

Mozgiću ne mora to dvoje biti odvojeno, mnoge zemlje na zapadu su i danas u dobrim odnosima sa iranom, pa i taj nato nije problem. Nije bilo ni problem tokom rata u BiH, ali kako bi ti to znao. Drži se ti laprdana o "bošnjačkom nacionalizmu".

A što se tiče ovog stručnjaka koji barata godinama ahmetli Alija Izetbegović je još 1992 boravio u posjeti Teheranu na poziv iranskih vlasti. Dotok oružja je tekao i prije sukoba sa hrvatima.

Samo se okrenuti Iranu , insala do pobjede.Kada je Iran spasio BiH od zavjere srba,hrvata,natoa,vatikana i cionista od 92-95 jos natjerao hrvate da pustaju oruzije i dopremao svakodnevno hranu za sarajevo - zamisli kako bi tek sada pomagali.

*Mozgiću bolje mozgic nego nikako nemati jedan

[jeza u ledja]

Sta velis, covjek iz Medjunarodnog crvenog krsta (IRC), koji je ucestvov'o u stvaranju al-kaide, svjedoci da je Iran bio suosnivac sa Amerikom?

Mislio sam na IRGC, ali mislim da prica ima i neke veze sa crvenim polumjesecom i ratom u BiH. Covjek u pitanju je bivsi general IRGC.
Da li je tacna prica to je vec druga stvar.

Ne znam ja na sta si ti mislio. A ti, kao, nisi skontao da u onom prilogu "monarhisticke tv", oni zele ukazati kako su u BiH prije pocetka rata (a rijec je, ustvari, o pocetku rata) obucavali i naoruzavali "muslimanske teroriste" (ono sto bi i Karadzic volio cuti) ? Niko nije spominjao al-kaidu..

E jebem ga ja sad si me natjerao da trazim. Poslo mi haver iz Irana video intervju o tome i rekao nesto tipa cijela frka oko toga tamo, kad su bile poplave i kad je blokirana neka pomoc njihovom crvenom polumjesecu. Ne znam na kakav prilog tv mislis, ovo je bio intervju sa tim likom na nekoj lokalnoj iranskoj tv.

http://pydrojava.net/english/2019/04/18 ... -al-qaeda/
https://aawsat.com/english/home/article ... qaeda-ties
https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-guard- ... 86373.html

Taj moj prijatelj ne vjeruje da je ovo tacno i misli da cijela ova prica ima veze sa tim da hard-lineri u Iranu zele sabotirati Rouhanija i pokazati njegovu nesposobnost bavljenja problemima tako sto su izmajmunisali blokiranje sredstava crvenom polumjesecu. Tako nesto.

A sad da ti nadjem taj video intervju, tesko, jer ne koristim vise tu aplikaciju preko koje mi je video poslao. Svakako nisam nista razumio, samo mi je on prenjeo sta se kaze.

No, s obzirom na koji nacin ti i ostala ekipa pravite poveznice izmedju raznih aktera na BI ovo je sasvim dovoljno da takvu poveznicu napravim i ja, na osnovu prilozenog iznad.

[rajv0sa]

Šehid Resul Hajdari je poginuo u borbama sa teroristima hvo kod kaknja 1993 godine. Te seljačke spinove i poturanja pripisuj nekom drugom.

A sta misli kako se sejh obreo u Kaknju? Bozijim davanjem?
Za to seljacko cu ti zazmiriti ovaj put. Sta ces nisi ti kriv sto ti je ispralo mozak pa ti nekaki sejhovi vazniji od komsije

Kojeg komšije? Onog o kojem ti laprdraš na svim drugim temama NA ovoj temi propagiraš bratsvo i jedinstvo a na drugim su sve komšije potencijalni zločinci.

A to nepoštovanje šehida govori puno o tvojoj ljudskosti. Došao je da da brani braću muslimane i islam kao vjeru od onih koji su htjeli da to nestane. To i jeste Božije.

[General War]

Da se podsjetimo razlike izmedju iranse i americke pomoci BiH:

-The CIA discovered that the Iranians gave Izetbegovic at least two pieces of luggage stuffed with money, each containing about $250,000, to help fund his campaign in the weeks leading up to the elections, according to the documents.

The allegations have buttressed the CIA's belief that Iranian influence in Bosnia remains strong more than a year after the Dayton peace accords--contradicting the Clinton administration's public assertions that U.S. pressure has forced Bosnia's Muslim government to loosen its ties with Iran.

In fact, CIA analysts believe that Izetbegovic has been "co-opted by the Iranians" and is now "literally on their payroll," according to a classified report based on the CIA's analysis of the issue.

Despite this, administration officials acknowledged Monday that President Clinton agreed to release $100 million worth of U.S. military aid to Bosnia even after the CIA uncovered the Iranian payments to Izetbegovic and reported the information to administration policy-makers.

http://www.markdanner.com/articles/print/65

US `secretly agreed Iran arms for Bosnia'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 03474.html

[rajv0sa]

Nadam se da ce Bosnjaci da poznaju prave prijatelje Iran i da ih prigrle.Kao i da vide ko su im pravi neprijatelji a to je NATO i zapad.
Sa srecom da je

Mozgiću ne mora to dvoje biti odvojeno, mnoge zemlje na zapadu su i danas u dobrim odnosima sa iranom, pa i taj nato nije problem. Nije bilo ni problem tokom rata u BiH, ali kako bi ti to znao. Drži se ti laprdana o "bošnjačkom nacionalizmu".

A što se tiče ovog stručnjaka koji barata godinama ahmetli Alija Izetbegović je još 1992 boravio u posjeti Teheranu na poziv iranskih vlasti. Dotok oružja je tekao i prije sukoba sa hrvatima.

Samo se okrenuti Iranu , insala do pobjede.Kada je Iran spasio BiH od zavjere srba,hrvata,natoa,vatikana i cionista od 92-95 jos natjerao hrvate da pustaju oruzije i dopremao svakodnevno hranu za sarajevo - zamisli kako bi tek sada pomagali.

*Mozgiću bolje mozgic nego nikako nemati jedan

Ne znam šta se petljaš uopće, znam da tvoji srbi imaju i dan danas kompleks od irana i "islamistickih zveri" . Dodikova rezimska tv to i dan danas cesto spominje

[славянин]

Šehid Resul Hajdari je poginuo u borbama sa teroristima hvo kod kaknja 1993 godine. Te seljačke spinove i poturanja pripisuj nekom drugom.

A sta misli kako se sejh obreo u Kaknju? Bozijim davanjem?
Za to seljacko cu ti zazmiriti ovaj put. Sta ces nisi ti kriv sto ti je ispralo mozak pa ti nekaki sejhovi vazniji od komsije

Kojeg komšije? Onog o kojem ti laprdraš na svim drugim temama NA ovoj temi propagiraš bratsvo i jedinstvo a na drugim su sve komšije potencijalni zločinci.

A to nepoštovanje šehida govori puno o tvojoj ljudskosti. Došao je da da brani braću muslimane i islam kao vjeru od onih koji su htjeli da to nestane. To i jeste Božije.

Jos da je dosao Bosnu da brani bilo bi dobro, svako na svoju stranu - tako je najbolje mislim da pomalo dolazim do zakljucka da nema od zajednickog zivota nista.

[insomnia78]

Šehid Resul Hajdari je poginuo u borbama sa teroristima hvo kod kaknja 1993 godine. Te seljačke spinove i poturanja pripisuj nekom drugom.

A sta misli kako se sejh obreo u Kaknju? Bozijim davanjem?
Za to seljacko cu ti zazmiriti ovaj put. Sta ces nisi ti kriv sto ti je ispralo mozak pa ti nekaki sejhovi vazniji od komsije

Kojeg komšije? Onog o kojem ti laprdraš na svim drugim temama NA ovoj temi propagiraš bratsvo i jedinstvo a na drugim su sve komšije potencijalni zločinci.

A to nepoštovanje šehida govori puno o tvojoj ljudskosti. Došao je da da brani braću muslimane i islam kao vjeru od onih koji su htjeli da to nestane. To i jeste Božije.

Komsije koji pogide za Bosnu

[славянин]

Ne znam šta se petljaš uopće, znam da tvoji srbi imaju i dan danas kompleks od irana i "islamistickih zveri" dodikova rezimska tv to i dan danas cesto spominje

Naravno, pa kada su Hrvati se prepali toliko da su morali da propuste oruzije kako da te ne bude strah irana ccc.

[jeza u ledja]

Do '94 nije ni znao za nas.

Guglah: "bill clinton presidential election 1992 bosnia" i prvi rezultat izadje ovo:

Arhiva New York Times, 28 juli 1992:

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/28/us/t ... olicy.html

THE 1992 CAMPAIGN: The Republicans; CLINTON ATTACKED ON FOREIGN POLICY

resident Bush and his advisers today confronted Gov. Bill Clinton head on for the first time on foreign policy, opening the new front by calling his ideas on the crisis in Bosnia reckless and painting Mr. Bush as the candidate who can be trusted with the nation's security.

Campaigning in Wisconsin and Michigan, Mr. Bush hurled threats at President Saddam Hussein of Iraq and talked in hushed tones of receiving late-night phone calls from the White House crisis center to underscore his own foreign policy credentials, which his strategists view as his best card in the 1992 elections.

"The American people need to know that the man who answers that phone has the experience, the seasoning, the guts to do the right thing," Mr. Bush said, speaking to workers and Republican supporters in a cookie factory in Wyoming, Mich., from a platform festooned with boxes of sugar wafers, low-fat granola and Rice Krispie bars. Attacking Clinton Statement

Behind the scenes, Bush aides quickly pounced on a little-noticed policy statement on the former Yugoslavian republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, issued by Mr. Clinton's office in Little Rock, Ark., to make a direct assault on the Democratic Presidential nominee. The statement called on Mr. Bush to seek United Nations authorization of selective bombing of Serbian targets in Bosnia.

Calling Mr. Clinton's ideas "reckless," Marlin Fitzwater, Mr. Bush's spokesman, said they showed that Mr. Clinton and his running mate, Senator Al Gore, were "a long way from being qualified to lead the country."

Continue reading the main story
Raising doubts about Mr. Clinton's ability to manage foreign policy, a tactic that Mr. Bush used successfully against Gov. Michael S. Dukakis of Massachusetts in 1988, has been a latent theme of the Bush campaign for some time. It was an expected part of the more overt attack on Mr. Clinton that began to unfold when Ross Perot dropped out of the race.

But it was not until today that it emerged so strongly into the fore, propelled in part by the opening given to Mr. Bush's staff by Mr. Clinton's statement on Bosnia. Call for 'Real Leadership'

In the statement that Mr. Clinton issued on Sunday, he called on Mr. Bush to show "real leadership" in the Balkans.

"We should make clear that the economic blockade against Serbia will be tightened, not only on weapons but also on oil and other supplies that sustain the renegade regime of Slobodan Milosevic," he said. "European and U.S. naval forces in the Adriatic should be given authority by the U.N. to stop and search ships that might be carrying contraband headed for Serbia and her ally, Montenegro."

Mr. Clinton called for international action to charge President Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia and others "with crimes against humanity under international law -- as we should have done long ago in the case of Iraq."

"The continuing attacks by Serbian elements in Bosnia threaten the delivery of urgently needed humanitarian aid, jeopardize the safety of U.N. personnel and put at risk the lives of thousands of citizens," the Democratic nominee said. "The United States should take the lead in seeking U.N. Security Council authorization for air strikes against those who are attacking the relief effort. The United States should be prepared to lend appropriate military support to that operation. Air and naval forces adequate to carry out these operations should be visibly in position."

Commenting on the statement, Mr. Fitzwater said: "It sounds like the kind of reckless approach that indicates he better do some more homework on foreign policy. It's clear he's unaware of the political complications in Yugoslavia."

In response to a reporter's question in San Francisco, Mr. Clinton said he was confused about the Administration's response. "I just don't know what to make of that. I mean, I talked to Senator Gore about it; we are perplexed by it."

In all of his statements about Bosnia, he said, "I tried to be aggressive and forthright.

"Maybe they are on the defensive, but certainly it was not an irresponsible statement. It was a very responsible statement, very well thought out."

Mr. Gore, campaigning in Atlanta, was more critical. "Bush and Quayle have nothing to offer except more of the same," he said. "They're in extreme political panic and so they're reaching for anything they can."

The Clinton statement on Bosnia and Herzegovina was sent to the offices of news organizations on Sunday from the nominee's headquarters in Little Rock, but it was not circulated to the reporters who travel with Mr. Clinton because of a series of miscues, campaign aides said.

Mr. Bush himself did not mention the Clinton statement and Mr. Fitzwater's initial remarks came in response to a question from a reporter. It remains to be seen how long the Bush team plans to keep up the assault, since it is acutely aware that economics, not foreign policy, is the centerpiece of this campaign. But at least for today, Mr. Fitzwater eagerly seized on Mr. Clinton's comments and repeated his condemnation at every opportunity.

At each of Mr. Bush's two stops, campaign surrogates pressed the attack on Mr. Clinton's trustworthiness. In Wyoming, Mich., near Grand Rapids, Gov. John Engler called Mr. Clinton too "untried and untested" to be President. And here in Neenah, about 40 miles south of Green Bay, at a factory that makes baseball cards, Gov. Tommy G. Thompson shouted, "If someone asks you to take a trip around the world, why would you put your faith in someone who has never left the South?"

Speaking in Cincinnati today, Vice President Dan Quayle, also emphasized the Bush Administration's record in foreign affairs. He told the National Conference of State Legislatures that Mr. Bush and his predecessor, Ronald Reagan, deserved the credit for the breakup of the Soviet Union, the fall of Communism and the end of the nuclear arms race. "Where should much of the credit go for the peace we now take as a given?" Mr. Quayle said. "To the man at the top."

It also was a day for Mr. Bush to finally sign onto the new populism of the 1992 campaign. Speaking at the Holland American Wafer Company plant in Michigan and the Outlook Graphics plant here, Mr. Bush unveiled a new slogan -- "Trust the People" -- to go along with his argument that the people should trust him.

"I believe the time has come to put the trust in the people," Mr. Bush declared. Borrowing the slogan of the Democratic National Convention, he said, "They say they want to put people first, but if you look real close at what they're proposing, the people they put first are all on the government payroll." The Issue of 'Trust'

In Neenah, Mr. Bush added, "And I stand with the flag-waving, yes, and the God-fearing, yes, and the tax-paying people of America."

But even in this, he returned to "trust," a word he used 20 times in a 20-minute speech. "To lead a great nation, you must first trust the people you lead," Mr. Bush said.

He added: "Many times in the White House late at night, the phone rings and usually it's some young aide double-checking on the next day's schedule. But occasionally it's another voice, more serious, more solemn, carrying news of a coup in a powerful country, or asking how we should stand up to the Baghdad bully halfway around the world."

Znaci ne da nije tacno da Bill Clinton "nije znao" za BiH do 94-e, vec je pitanje rata u BiH bilo dio predsjednicke izborne kampanje 92-e, gdje je Clinton jos u ljeto 92-e pozivao na vojne udare na srpske polozaje. Znamo da je to u Kongresu radio Biden, isto tako 92-e.

[salik79]

[


US `secretly agreed Iran arms for Bosnia'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 03474.html

[rajv0sa]

Kojeg komšije? Onog o kojem ti laprdraš na svim drugim temama NA ovoj temi propagiraš bratsvo i jedinstvo a na drugim su sve komšije potencijalni zločinci.

A to nepoštovanje šehida govori puno o tvojoj ljudskosti. Došao je da da brani braću muslimane i islam kao vjeru od onih koji su htjeli da to nestane. To i jeste Božije.

Komsije koji pogide za Bosnu

Poginuo je i moj dedo za Bosnu. Znam vrlo dobro šta je moja porodica prošla u ratu i koliko im je značila svaka pomoć, i čije proizvodnje pušku je babo dužio na liniji. I dok god sam živ govorit ću o tome ko je pomogao ovaj narod kad je bilo najteže. Samo onaj ko nije osjetio rata može to ismijavat i pravit neke glupave šale o tome.

[jeza u ledja]

Poginuo je i moj dedo za Bosnu. Znam vrlo dobro šta je moja porodica prošla u ratu i koliko im je značila svaka pomoć, i čije proizvodnje pušku je babo dužio na liniji. I dok god sam živ govorit ću o tome ko je pomogao ovaj narod kad je bilo najteže. Samo onaj ko nije osjetio rata može to ismijavat i pravit neke glupave šale o tome.

Hos govorit kako su Clinton i Ameri pomogli?

[insomnia78]

Bgm je babo onda dobro okasnio ako je ikako i bio cim je duzio iransku pusku
Nego, onako informativno koje to puske Iran proizvodi?

[King Theoden]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FiringLineSh ... eg-iran%2F

[rajv0sa]

Poginuo je i moj dedo za Bosnu. Znam vrlo dobro šta je moja porodica prošla u ratu i koliko im je značila svaka pomoć, i čije proizvodnje pušku je babo dužio na liniji. I dok god sam živ govorit ću o tome ko je pomogao ovaj narod kad je bilo najteže. Samo onaj ko nije osjetio rata može to ismijavat i pravit neke glupave šale o tome.

Hos govorit kako su Clinton i Ameri pomogli?

Govorim i to, hvala i klintonu koji je oficijelno ucjenjivo Aliju zbog Irana ali opet to prešutno odobrio. Usto tako hvala i europskim državama koje su humanitarno pomagale, pa makar i haringama.

[jeza u ledja]

Poginuo je i moj dedo za Bosnu. Znam vrlo dobro šta je moja porodica prošla u ratu i koliko im je značila svaka pomoć, i čije proizvodnje pušku je babo dužio na liniji. I dok god sam živ govorit ću o tome ko je pomogao ovaj narod kad je bilo najteže. Samo onaj ko nije osjetio rata može to ismijavat i pravit neke glupave šale o tome.

Hos govorit kako su Clinton i Ameri pomogli?

Govorim i to, hvala i klintonu koji je oficijelno ucjenjivo Aliju zbog Irana ali opet to prešutno odobrio.

Nisi zahvalan na humanitarnoj pomoci iz SAD, kao i na vojnoj intervenciji?

[rajv0sa]

Bgm je babo onda dobro okasnio ako je ikako i bio cim je duzio iransku pusku
Nego, onako informativno koje to puske Iran proizvodi?

Ma ti si jedan mali čovjek bez trunke stida i časti.

[General War]

[


US `secretly agreed Iran arms for Bosnia'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 03474.html

[insomnia78]

Bgm je babo onda dobro okasnio ako je ikako i bio cim je duzio iransku pusku
Nego, onako informativno koje to puske Iran proizvodi?

Ma ti si jedan mali čovjek bez trunke stida i časti.

O tom po tom. Nego koje to iran puske proizvodi i koje su iranske puske bile u nasem ratu?

[rajv0sa]

Nisi zahvalan na humanitarnoj pomoci iz SAD, kao i na vojnoj intervenciji?

[/quote]

Jesam, jedino žalim što intervencija nije došla još 1992 godine.

[jeza u ledja]

Jesam, jedino žalim što intervencija nije došla još 1992 godine.

I ja sam zahvalan Iranu sto su pomagali kad je najvise trebalo.