IRAN

[salik79]

Do maloprije nisam ni znao da je ovo bilo u The Guardianu (a xy puta sam pisao o ovome, kada je bilo govora o ruskom "vetu"):


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... sacre-1995

[salik79]

Citam clanak - pa kontam, kao da sam ga ja pisao....Sve ono sto sam iznosio, kada bi bilo rijeci o ruskom "vetu" na rezoluciju o genocidu, je napisanomu ovom clanku u The Guardianu, a da ga ja - Boga mi - prvi puta vidim. Postavit cu jos samo ovo, a svako ko se u ostatak zeli uvjeriti, bujrum neka procita cijeli clanak:



I sada nesto kontam, s kim se ja raspravljam na ovim temama...Ja sam to dozivio i prezivio, a mnogi su bili u pelenama, ili nisu bili ni rodjeni, kada se ovo sve desavalo.

[insomnia78]

Ocekujes da vjerujemo rotshildovim medijima?
Ja cu se ipak drzati RT verzije

[salik79]

Ocekujes da vjerujemo rotshildovim medijima?
Ja cu se ipak drzati RT verzije

Sta kazu tamo? Jarane, da je RT - ovo ne bih smio ni postaviti...Sjetimo se samo reakcija kada sam pisao o ovome!

[rajv0sa]

Ocekujes da vjerujemo rotshildovim medijima?
Ja cu se ipak drzati RT verzije

jel ti rtrs mio? , kažeš dobri odnosi

[insomnia78]

Ti prvo zavrsi skolu pa dodji pricati sa ozbiljnim cikama. Da Srbija i Iran imaju odlicne odnose. Vjerovatno i bolje nego Iran i BiH s obzirom da dmo im protjerivali diplomate

[rajv0sa]

Hahahahha nazavršavo se je Bogami do MA, dosta mi. Pa ti si repliciro za karadžića, ne znam ko je više povezan sa njegovim nasljedstvom od ove televizije i njenih nalogodavaca. Čiko čiko, ne može se o činjenicama sa "vjerovatno".

[insomnia78]

Imas npr ovo

Predsednik Srpsko-iranske poslovne komore dr Said Hosseini, u pratnji ambasadora I.R. Irana NJ.E. Madžida Fahimpura, prisustvovao je proslavi islamskog praznika Bajrama održanoj u Novom Sadu.

Dr Hosseini je sa čelnicima grada Novog sada – gradonačelnikom Milošem Vučevićem i predsednikom Skupštine grada Novog Sada Zdravkom Jelušićem razgovarao o aktivnostima Srpsko-iranske poslovne komore i planovima za budućnost.

Tom prilikom, gradonačelnik Vučević rekao je da će pružiti svu moguću podršku u daljem radu Komore.

Svečanost su organizovali Islamska zajednica Srbije, Muftijstvo vojvođansko, Medžlis Novi Sad, zajedno sa Gradom Novim Sadom, Maticom Albanaca Srbije, udruženjem NUR/Svetlost i brojnim donatorima, a nastupio je Hor Stambol iz Novog Pazara.

Ali to nije nista cudno ni lose. Tako se to otprilike radi. Fr MVp je odveo par stotina privrednika u Iran jos prije skidanja sankcija

[insomnia78]

http://www.rtv.rs/sr_lat/politika/sasta ... 04187.html
Tek da znas kolko iranaca posjeti Bg

[aratet]

Zasto postoji srpsko-iranska komora kad su iranci na nasoj strani?

[sunceKOtepsija]

kao sto je to, na prethodnoj stranici, dobro primjetio kolega mapin jutapi, ova tema polako tone u kaljuzu iz koje ce se, zaista, teskom mukom izvuci...jedno sto moze pomoci u izvlacenju iz pomenute kaljuze i prica "rekla kazala", kako teme, tako i svih nas zajedno koji ovu temu pratimo, vise ili manje redovno, jeste aktvino agazovanje ozbiljnijih forumasa, doajena foruma, forumasa koji barataju cinjenicama, forumasa poput savoxxa, insmnie,sumpira, mapina te eventalno solarija i akija...
ono o cemu se malo prica-alki je vrijedno spomena jeste iranski uticaj u BiH-s obzirom da međusije (kojima mnogi tepaju terminima poput rafidja ili sija) koriste mnogo perfidinje metode za zavodenje neupucenog stanovnistva, obicnih gradan i omladine prije svega-navescu primjer, recentan-Novogodisnji koncert Zdravka Colica

Zdravko Čolić novogodišnji koncert u Sarajevu otvorio pjesmom Gori vatra

necu se upustati u analizu stihova (iako sam i na tom polju poprilicno "dobro potkovan") ali dfovoljno je reci da se kulturni centar drzave o kojoj je rijec u naslovu teme nalazti tik pored subjekta iz naslova pjesme kojom je gore pomenuti Zdravko otvorio svoj novogodisnji koncert harama i kufra (kako je to fino zamjetio jedan nas akademik-s tim u vezi obratiti paznju na simulaciju međusijskog idola vatre reflektorima i jelenskih rogova lijevo od pozornice koji simbiliziraju sejtana tj. sotonu-vrhovno međusijsko bozanstvo )
nazalost, javnost generalno ima jedan vrlo nosalantan odnost spram percepcije međusijske opasnosti-i dalje su na meti, velikog dijela javnosti tradicionalni muslimani koji praktikuju islam kakav su praktikovali i nasi stari-sve do pojave zlocinackog komunistickog rezima na celu sa jednim od najvecih zlocinaca 20. vijeka Josipom Brozom Titom-iliu jednostavno receno-smetaju brade i kratke pantalone, a međusijski poganluk je kao "in&cool"

[salik79]

Zasto postoji srpsko-iranska komora kad su iranci na nasoj strani?

Kakva komora?

I, kakvo ti je to glupo pitanje? A u ratu se vidjelo na cijoj su strani. Je li tako?

[sunceKOtepsija]

inace kad se na sve to doda podatak da je zdravko colic srbin -slika polako postaje jasnija i maske, jedna po jedna padaju...istina gola stoji-pred nasim ocima...

Čolići potiču iz istočne Hercegovine – kaže Zdravko. – Moj otac Vlado je rođen u selu Vlahovići, nedaleko od Ljubinja. Pola tog dela moje familije koloniziralo je u Suvi Do na Kosovu, čak sam tokom turneje sa Kemalom Montenom sedamdesetih godina tamo zatekao i neku rodbinu. Moj deda Stjepan je još uvek tamo, dok su mnogi moji rođaci emigrirali u Beograd, tako da mi se nedavno na snimanju neke televizijske emisije jedan momak obratio sa striko. Drugi deo porodice kolonizirao je tokom 1946. u Ravni Topolovac, blizu Zrenjanina. I danas su mi sveže slike sa salaša strica Čede, kod kojeg sam kao mali odlazio. Pamtim odlaske u polje, gde sam rado pomagao u poslu, jahao konje i koračao kroz kukuruze, dok su mi pažnju privlačile lubenice koje su rasle uz strukove

[rajv0sa]

koja legenda

[salik79]

Jos sada kada imamo i prevedeno sta Hamenei suruje za Bozic sa onim Armenima sto im sin polozi zivot za medzusijsku republiku, a dobro znamo kakav su zulum Turskoj napravili, onda je slika kristalno jasna:

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/ ... 25152?s=09

[salik79]

OPINION | STEPHEN KINZER
Don’t get too excited about the protests in Iran

Whenever trouble breaks out in Iran, adrenaline rushes through Washington. Hearts pound excitedly at the Pentagon, the CIA, the White House, and Congress. In recent weeks, reports of street protests in several Iranian cities have triggered this Pavlovian response. Once again, however, Americans who have spent decades hoping for an explosion in Iran are disappointed. “Regime change” is not imminent. More important, we should not wish for it. A sudden collapse of Iran’s governing system would be bad for us. It would set another Middle Eastern country aflame and feed the instability that breeds terror.

Iran-haters — meaning most of official Washington — cackled in delight at news of the protests. President Trump said they showed that Iranians were “finally getting wise.” His ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, exulted that “the long-repressed Iranian people are now finding their voice.” Senator John McCain praised “the brave protesters who yearn for freedom.” None of these figures has been much of a defender of oppressed Middle Easterners. Concern for human rights is not what leads them to encourage upheaval in Iran. Their goal is to weaken America’s Middle East nemesis.

Leading figures in the Trump administration harbor extreme enmity for Iran. In a theatrical press conference last month, Haley stood in front of the body of a missile and a “kamikaze drone” that she said prove Iran is launching “direct military attacks” on pro-American forces. All three of the generals who are President Trump’s closest advisers served in the Middle East, where American and Iranian interests clash regularly. Defense Secretary James Mattis has famously listed America’s three greatest security threats in that region as “Iran, Iran, Iran.”

Anyone who believes this, and who sits at a pinnacle of power, might logically want to promote instability in Iran. That would be a mistake. If the United States is sending covert aid to the latest group of Iranian protesters, or considering doing so, it should stop.

Few peoples are as sensitive to foreign interference as the Iranians. In the 19th century Iran lost vast territories to Russia. Later the British brazenly looted Iran’s oil wealth. In 1953 US officials promoted a coup in which the country’s parliamentary democracy was overthrown. This history has left a residue of fierce independence. Iranians instinctively reject political movements that they see as tools of foreign power.

Aid from the United States to any Iranian group would likely be uncovered. That would disqualify the recipient from further participation in Iranian public life. It would also highlight the hypocrisy of American outrage over Russian intervention in our own politics. American officials should not use this burst of protest in Iran as an excuse to intensify covert action there.

Contrary to our wishful delusions, Iran is a fully functioning state. It is not careening toward the abyss of instability. Street protests there draw our attention precisely because they are rare. The grievances behind them are genuine, but they have no central leadership and offer no coherent alternative to the religious regime. In any case, Iranians have watched American intervention devastate several Middle Eastern countries, including their own. They have demonstrated no desire for the kind of “regime change” that Washington begins imagining every time a rock is thrown in Tehran.

Iran is the strongest counterweight to American power in the Middle East. It limits our ability to impose our will. From Washington’s perspective, that makes it an enemy. In fact, however, no vital interest requires the United States to help shape Iran’s future.

History decrees that any Iranian government must be strongly nationalist and a vigilant defender of Shiite Muslims everywhere, so the idea that “regime change” would produce a more pro-American Iran is a fantasy. The security of the United States will not be seriously affected by the course of Iran’s domestic politics.

Nor, despite what Mattis and others have said, will our security be affected by the results of Iran’s jostling with other powers in its neighborhood. The role Iran ultimately plays in Syria, the nature of its ties to Lebanon, the scope of its influence in Yemen — these disputes will drag on interminably. There is no need for the United States to take sides in any of them. Doing so is a guarantee of perpetual engagement.

In 1980 President Carter proclaimed that any challenge to American dominance of the Persian Gulf would be considered “an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America.” He was driven by the global imperatives of his era. Much of America’s oil came through the Persian Gulf, and the West could not risk losing it to Soviet power.

Today there is no Soviet Union, and we no longer rely on Middle East oil. Yet although the basis for our policy has evaporated, the policy itself remains unchanged, a relic from a bygone age. We still insist on dominating the Persian Gulf. It is time to let go. Resisting the temptation to meddle in Iran after this month’s protests would be a good way to start.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/201 ... ssion=true

[japin_mutapi]

legla uplata

[salik79]

legla uplata

Ma nema potrebe, mogu i bez toga, ima banka para, a meni je svojevoljno/nicim izazvana odobrila najveci moguci (dozvoljeni) limit/prekoracenje, tako da uvijek mogu rahat pisati i cekati uplate, bez da osjetim.

[salik79]

Lazem, cak i preko najveceg dozvoljenog limita mi je odobrila...Kako?

[japin_mutapi]

iranci dobro placaju i na vrijeme, isto ko saudi i rusi
nisu ko(moji) turci izrade

jedino kiki pise iz ubjedjenja

[insomnia78]

Cekaj dok Rotsild naleti na tvoje pisanije po forumu

[salik79]

Cekaj dok Rotsild naleti na tvoje pisanije po forumu

Cini mi se da ovi ne pripadaju njemu...Ali, sve je moguce.

[salik79]

iranci dobro placaju i na vrijeme, isto ko saudi i rusi
nisu ko(moji) turci izrade

jedino kiki pise iz ubjedjenja

Jok, NGO imaju, po pravilu, najjace finansije.

[insomnia78]

Cekaj dok Rotsild naleti na tvoje pisanije po forumu

Cini mi se da ovi ne pripadaju njemu...Ali, sve je moguce.

Ta zar ima banke koja nije njegova

[salik79]

Cekaj dok Rotsild naleti na tvoje pisanije po forumu

Cini mi se da ovi ne pripadaju njemu...Ali, sve je moguce.

Ta zar ima banke koja nije njegova

Ma ova je Ruska, sad - nisam im ulazio u strukturu.