IRAN

[zrakomlat]

http://mostarski.ba/foto-obiljezena-23- ... na-nevaba/




salik, ima li te na onim fotkama u galeriji

[Truba]

http://www.csw.org.uk/2017/09/07/news/3694/article.htm

Iran Christian children denied separate religious

čitam samo naslove
ima li istine?

[Streptokok]

šta je reći? majorizacija?

[salik79]

http://www.csw.org.uk/2017/09/07/news/3694/article.htm

Iran Christian children denied separate religious

čitam samo naslove
ima li istine?

Nema.

[Krokodajl]

http://www.csw.org.uk/2017/09/07/news/3694/article.htm

Iran Christian children denied separate religious

čitam samo naslove
ima li istine?

Možda.

U Iranu je Ustavom definirano da djeca pripadnika "ahl al kitab" (kršćani, jevreji, zoroasteri) imaju pravo na vjersku poduku u školama a kurikulum određuju autoriteti vjerske zajedncie a odobrava ministarstvo.

U praksi se to poštuje, ima naravno problema kao i svugdje ali generalno se poštuje, možda u manjim sredinama postoji problema jer nema vjeroučitelja, ali ne znam da su djeca igdje bila prisiljena u nedostatku svoje vjeronauke slušati islamsku.

Sad dolazimo do konkrentnog slučaja.

Ne znam da li si upoznat sa činjenicom da u Iranu raste broj kršćana, što zbog prirodnog priraštaja što zbog činjenice da raste broj konvertita (naravno i dalje je to neznatna brojka ali svakako zanimljiva jer govorimo o Islamskoj Republici).

Ovdje govorimo upravo o konvertitima.

Među ulemom ne postoji jedinstveno mišljenje u vezi sa ridom, odnosno apotezom, dio smatra da se ona treba kažnjavati smrću, dio smatra da je ona grijeh (ali da se ne kažnjava smrću) a dio smatra da nije grijeh (u Pakistanu se oko ovog dosta vodila retorika u vrijeme rahmetli Dr. Šejha Rahmana, vrhovnog suca I.R. Pakistan koji je promovirao da apoteza nije grijeh).

Ovi umjereni (pa ako hoćeš i reformisti) se pozivaju na ajet iz sure El Bekare

U vjeri nema prisiljavanja - Pravi put se jasno razlikuje od zablude! Onaj ko ne vjeruje u šejtana, a vjeruje u Allaha - drži se za najčvršću vezu, koja se neće prekinuti. - A Allah sve čuje i zna. - El Bekare 256.

No, u Iranu je nažalost apoteza često kažnjavana smrću, u posljednje vrijeme a pogotovo smjenom vlasti sa tvrdolijanaša na reformiste sve blaže se gleda na apotezu, ona se i dalje smatra kaznenim djelom (mislim da je čak i dalje propisana smrtna kazna ali ne znam da li je u posljednjih 10 godina izvršena ijedna) ali u praksi je dozvoljena, no i dalje se nosi društvena stigma.

Ako izuzmemo sada stav I.R. Iran u vezi sa ridom, i sa pravima djece koja su iz brakova u kojima je neko konvertit bilo prije, bilo poslije rođenja djeteta, ovdje se dolazi i do još jednog problema. U Iranu postoji nekoliko crkava, i većina ih je povezana sa etno-jezičkim vezama, pa tako imamo Armensku crkvu, Asirsku crkvu, Kaledejsku crkvu, Rimokatoličku crkvu, Rusku Pravoslavnu, one se u Iranu smatraju tradicionalnim Iranskim crkvama, pogotovo ove prve tri koje i broje najviše članova, većina konvertita ne pripada ni jednoj od njih, budući je riječ o Irancima koji govore Perzijski, tako da su oni uglavnom učlanjeni u poluilegalnu "Crkvu Irana" koja pripada svjetskom udruženju pentekostalnih crkava, i kao takva se ne smatra tradicionalnom Iranskom crkvom jer nem uporište u tradiciji naroda Irana.

To opet dovodi do sljedećeg problema, na početku posta sam objasnio da vjerski kurikulum kreira vrh vjerske organizacije, pa tako djeca Armena imaju pravo na vjeronauk koji ima kurikulum koji određuje Armenska Apostolska crkva Irana.

Kod "Crkve Irana" budući i sama djeluje polulegalno to nije moguće uraditi.

Osim toga, ovdje govorimo ako se ne varam o Iranskom Azerbejdžanu a ne o Teheranu, tamo je i društvo mnogo više konzervativnije pa ne isključujem mogućnost da tamo neki direktor škole u Raštu kada je čuo da dijete nekog Muhameda hoće da sluša pentokostalni vjeronauk jednostavno rekao "il nek sluša ko i ostala djeca il nek i ne ide u školu".

A opet, svako nek procijeni sam, nadam se da sam bar malo pomogao.

[arzuhal]

U Iranu je Ustavom definirano da djeca pripadnika "ahl al beita" (kršćani, jevreji, zoroasteri) imaju pravo na vjersku poduku u školama a kurikulum određuju autoriteti vjerske zajedncie a odobrava ministarstvo.

[salik79]

U Iranu je Ustavom definirano da djeca pripadnika "ahl al beita" (kršćani, jevreji, zoroasteri) imaju pravo na vjersku poduku u školama a kurikulum određuju autoriteti vjerske zajedncie a odobrava ministarstvo.

Lapsus calami

[arzuhal]

lapsus tastaturi, valjda

[Krokodajl]

Tobejarabi

Jel se ovo sad računa isto u ridu

[salik79]

lapsus tastaturi, valjda

[Krokodajl]

lapsus tastaturi, valjda

E, što me sad onaj, kako se zvao, ne kopira, bi ga na FB šejhovi murtedom proglasili za ovo

[salik79]

lapsus tastaturi, valjda

E, što me sad onaj, kako se zvao, ne kopira, bi ga na FB šejhovi murtedom proglasili za ovo

Dobro si, ja vec i zaboravio

Inace, glede tvog upisa, zelim jos jednom podsjetiti:

Izgubiti glavu u Iranu može se isključivo na osam načina: ubojstvom, silovanjem, preprodajem droge, pedofilijom, otmicom, oružanom pljačkom, terorizmom i međunarodnom špijunažom. Sve ostalo je propaganda po istom šablonu: izmišljeni slučajevi koji se provlače kroz zapadnjačke mas-medije i tako vremenom postaju polazišna točka u raspravi za svaku iranofobnu budalu.

[salik79]

Inace, ova tvrdnja, koju je Labud citirao, je na istom fonu kao i ova saudijska perverzija:

Documentary exposing Iranian regime involvement in September 11
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/w ... er-11.html

[japin_mutapi]

мени ово има смисла

[salik79]

Nesto za Labudanovu dusu

Nezaboravan posjet Iranu
http://adventisti.hr/nazaboravni-posjet-iranu/


A, evo nesto i za moju dusu i duse svih onih koji su prezivjeli rat i znaju sta nam je pomoc Irana u ratu znacila:
Reis Kavazović sa unukom imama Homeinija: Rat u BiH je ujedinio čitav muslimanski svijet
http://www.ins.ba/bs/article/1668/reis- ... ski-svijet

[sunceKOtepsija]

pogled u buducnost 04.10.2017.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani will preside over the Fifth Turkey-Iran High Level Strategic Council meeting that will be held in Tehran on Oct. 4.

"We will focus on Turkish-Iranian relationships and regional developments. The most sensitive one is [the developments] in Iraq and Syria. The fight against terror is also important,” Erdoğan said in a televised interview over the weekend.

Erdogan najavio posjetu Teheranu gdje ce sa iranskim Predsjednikom predsjedavati Tursko-iraanskim strateskim vijecem za saradnju. Kako je istakao predsjednik Erdogan jedna od najvaznijih tema bice i saradnja u borbi protiv terorizma, kao i saradnja u Siriji i Iraku

[Kikibombona]

Veliko slavlje diljem iranskog Kurdistana nakon proglasenja nezavisnosti. Proslavu nisu sprijecile velike perzijske snage koje su rasporedjene u kurdskim gradovima.

Mahabad, glavni grad Republike Kurdistan, koju je u krvi ugusila perzijska vojska i objesila predsjednika drzave!

Narod pjeva kurdsku himnu...

Kurds in the streets of Mahabad sing the Kurdish Anthem and fly the flag of #Rojhelat / #Kurdistan and celebrate #KurdistanReferendum

https://twitter.com/RojhelatRising/stat ... 8267240448

Sine Sanandaj Square, #Rojhelat with the protest growing with more people against #Iran and to celebrate #KurdistanReferendum

https://twitter.com/chiyaqadri/status/9 ... 8568512512

People in the streets of Sine Sanandaj are still chanting into night-time, chanting YES for #KurdistanReferendum #KRGReferendum | #Rojhelat

https://twitter.com/RojhelatRising/stat ... 6395291648

Tens of thousands of Kurds in #Iran'ian occupied #Kurdistan celebrate the independence referendum in Bashur. #Twitterkurds #Rojhelat

https://twitter.com/PDKIenglish/status/ ... 3946880006

Kurds in East-Kurdistan (Iran) or #Rojhelat are marching through the streets, chanting: "Freedom! Freedom! Freedom!"

https://twitter.com/PollaGarmiany/statu ... 92/video/1

(azadi, azadi, azadi... sloboda, sloboda, sloboda)

Ostali klipovi i slike...

https://twitter.com/RojhelatRising

https://twitter.com/PDKIenglish

Nece ni perzijska okupacija dovijeka!

[Edin H.]

Zašto onda u pojedinim zemljama zapada imamo zabranu nošenja burke?

Iz istog razloga sto je burka pod moranje u pojedinim drzavama. Kako ces ispod burke vidjeti je li musko ili zensko? Kako ced raditi a da ti samo oci vire? Dajte malo razmisljajte prakticno.

Ne radi se u Francuskoj o burkama ni na plazama ni na radnom mjestu.

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/u-au ... /170930101

Austrija flagrantno krsi ljudska prava pojedinca.

[japin_mutapi]

vise se ne tuku sabljama po glavi, sad sami sebe samaraju

[aratet]

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/u-au ... /170930101

Austrija flagrantno krsi ljudska prava pojedinca.

Uzas, tuga, plac, nece neki vise moci ovako.

[sunceKOtepsija]

nacelnik turskog generalstaba u Teheranu-teme razgovora-stanje u regiji, borba protiv terorizma

[jao_situacije]

vikinzi šijje

Researchers in Sweden have found Arabic characters woven into burial costumes from Viking boat graves. The discovery raises new questions about the influence of Islam in Scandinavia, writes journalist Tharik Hussain.
They were kept in storage for more than 100 years, dismissed as typical examples of Viking Age funeral clothes.
But a new investigation into the garments - found in 9th and 10th Century graves - has thrown up groundbreaking insights into contact between the Viking and Muslim worlds.
Patterns woven with silk and silver thread have been found to spell the words "Allah" and "Ali".
The breakthrough was made by textile archaeologist Annika Larsson of Uppsala University while re-examining the remnants of burial costumes from male and female boat and chamber graves originally excavated in Birka and Gamla Uppsala in Sweden in the late 19th and mid-20th centuries.
She became interested in the forgotten fragments after realising the material had come from central Asia, Persia and China.
Larsson says the klix geometric designs - no more than 1.5cm (0.6in) high - resembled nothing she had come across in Scandinavia before.
"I couldn't quite make sense of them and then I remembered where I had seen similar designs - in Spain, on Moorish textiles."
Unlocking a puzzle
Larsson then realised she was not looking at Viking patterns at all but ancient Arabic Kufic script.
There were two words that kept recurring. One of them she identified with the help of an Iranian colleague. It was the name "Ali" - the fourth caliph of Islam.
But the word next to Ali was more difficult to decipher.
To unlock the puzzle, she enlarged the letters and examined them from all angles, including from behind.
"I suddenly saw that the word 'Allah' [God] had been written in mirrored lettering," she says.
Enlargements of the names 'Allah' and 'Ali' made by Larsson. Shown with a mirror.

Enlarging the patterns and looking at the reflection in a mirror revealed the word 'Allah' (God) in Arabic
Larsson has so far found the names on at least 10 of the nearly 100 pieces she is working through, and they always appear together.
The new find now raises fascinating questions about the grave's occupants.
"The possibility that some of those in the graves were Muslim cannot be completely ruled out," she says.
"We know from other Viking tomb excavations that DNA analysis has shown some of the people buried in them originated from places like Persia, where Islam was very dominant.
"However, it is more likely these findings show that Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islamic ideas such as eternal life in paradise after death."
A past exhibit shows what a Viking woman’s boat grave in Gamla Uppsala may have looked like - similar to the tombs the above fragments were found in

A museum display gives a sense of what the Viking woman's boat grave in Gamla Uppsala may have looked like - similar to the tombs the fragments were found in
Her team is now working with the university's department for immunology, genetics and pathology to establish the geographic origins of the bodies dressed in the funeral clothes.

Historic first
Contact between the Viking and Muslim worlds has long been established by historic accounts and the discovery of Islamic coins across the northern hemisphere.
Two years ago, researchers re-examined a silver ring from a female tomb at Birka and found the phrase "for Allah" inscribed on the stone.
Again the text was Kufic, developed in the Iraqi town of Kufah in the 7th Century - one of the first Arabic scripts used to write down the Koran.
What makes Larsson's discovery so interesting is that it is the first time historic items mentioning Ali have ever been unearthed in Scandinavia.
Viking ring with Kufic inscription

A Viking ring with a Kufic inscription saying "for Allah" was found inside a 9th Century woman's grave in Birka two years ago
"The name Ali is repeated again and again beside Allah," she says.
"I know Ali is highly revered by the largest Muslim minority group, the Shia, and have wondered if there is a connection."
Ali was the cousin and son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad, having married his daughter Fatima. He also became the fourth leader of the Muslim community after Muhammad died.
Although both Sunnis and Shia revere Ali as an important companion of Muhammad, he has elevated status amongst the Shia, who see him as the Prophet's spiritual heir.
"The use of Ali does suggest a Shia connection," says Amir De Martino, programme leader of Islamic studies at the Islamic College in London.
"But without the phrase 'waly Allah' accompanying the name - meaning 'friend of Allah' - this would not be from mainstream Shia culture and might just have been copied wrongly from something that was," adds De Martino, who is also the chief editor of Islam Today, a British Shia magazine.
"The pattern suggests Ali is being equated with Allah, and therefore there is a slim possibility it has some connection to very early, extreme, mystical fringe movements who believed in this
"But more likely it is a wrongly copied pattern."
Inscriptions on the ceiling of Demir Baba Tekke, an Alevi mausoleum in north-eastern Bulgaria. The right side has the names Allah, Muhammad and Ali written in legible, simple Arabic. The left side shows a blue mystical pattern within which all three names have been interlocked.

Inscriptions on the ceiling of an Alevi mausoleum in Bulgaria feature - on the right - the names Allah, Muhammad and Ali written in legible, simple Arabic while on the left there is a blue mystic pattern with the three names interlocked
The names Allah and Ali are often represented in enigmatic patterns inside the tombs and books of mystical Shia sects such as the Alevis and Bektashis to this day, but always they are accompanied by the name Muhammad. These can sometimes include mirrored script.
But unlike Larsson's find, these examples usually include both the name depicted the correct way around and the reflection.
For Larsson though, her discovery offers much promise for the future.
"Now that I am looking at Viking patterns differently, I am convinced I will find more Islamic inscriptions in the remaining fragments from these excavations, and other Viking era textiles.
"Who knows? Maybe they appear in non-textile artefacts too."

[insomnia78]

Nije to nista. Srpski arheolozi su pronasli jos stariji grob koji je sadrzavao šajkaču i opanak što je prema tvrdnjama istoričara jasan dokaz da su vikinzi kasnije prodali veru za veceru

[Gojeni H]

vikinzi šijje

Researchers in Sweden have found Arabic characters woven into burial costumes from Viking boat graves. ...

Vikinzi su se u ovom periodu intenzivno bavili trgovinom robljem, kao i Jevreji.
Centar tadasnjeg svijeta je bio Bliski istok. Evropa nije imala previse za ponuditi, a cinila je periferiju svijeta.
Evropa zedna zacina i luksuza sa istoka, dala je Vikinzima ideju - roblje.

Nije ovo jedino nalaziste. Nalazili su arapske kovanice u Svedskoj.
Mozda se radi o muslimanu trgovcu, mozda je samo svila kupljena na istoku, ... moze znaciti mnogo stvari.

Peter Frankopan se u djelu Putevi svile na nekoliko stranica bavi i Vikinzima.

[The 51st State]

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