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#1 filipinka zlostavljana u kuci saudijskog diplomate

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nevjerovatno , prije par mjeseci sam citao na stranicama udruzenja za ljudska prava o tome kako bogati saudijci ili bogati arapi unajmljuju filipinke ili djevojke iz siromasnih zemalja i onda ih ne placaju i zlostavljaju ...

citao sam slucaj da su neki studenti u njemackoj koji volontiraju u organizaciji za ljudska prava , da su krisom dosli u hotel gdje je odsjeo neki saudijski biznismen i pricali krisom sa njegovom sluzavkom , koja je prvo cutala a onda se zalila da su po ugovoru trebali da je placaju 100 dolara mjesecnoali je ne placaju ni toliko , iako na noc potrose preko 500 dolara na hotele ...
i da je i muz i zena tku iako se mole svaki dan , i jos je domacin kuce seksualno zlostavlja ...

nakon toga ju je njemacki student povezao kuci i javio policiji , nakon par sati biznis,en se pojavio sa policijom pod optuzbom da je taj njemacki student kidnapovao njegovu sluzavku , zatim mu zaprijetio tuzbom i djevojka je umjesto na filipine deportovana u tu arapsku zemlju ...
pokusacu da nadjem taj sajt sa takvim slucajevima da ne ispadne da izmisljam ...

i gle cuda slican scenario se ponovio u sarajevu ...
i opet isti scenario , filipinki je oduzeta iskaznica , sad joj prijeti deportacija samo nadam se da ce biti deportovana na filipine a ne ponovo kod te porodice ...
i kao po obicaju optuzuju se NATO zvanicnici i strani tuzioc da su prekoracili ovlastenja i upali u njegovu kucu i kidnapovali djevojku ...

a ja pitam logicno pitanje ? ako je djevojci bilo toliko dobro u toj kuci , zasto bi se uopste zalila tajno , vjerovatno se zalla tajno organizacijama za ljudska prava pa je to nekako doslo do NATO zvanicnika , i zasto bi uopste napustila tu kucu i otisla ako joj je bilo toliko dobro ?
SARAJEVO: U REZIDENCIJI ZVANIČNIKA SAUDIJSKE AMBASADE PRONAĐENA ROBINJA S FILIPINA?
Autor: Srna
Objavljeno: 31. January 2011. 13:01:10
U privatnoj rezidenciji zvaničnika Ambasade Saudijske Arabije u BiH u sarajevskom naselju Grbavica pronađena je mlada državljanka Filipina koja je prisilno držana kao služavka, tvrdi Srna.

Privatna rezidencija u Kupreškoj ulici broj 9 pretresena je sinoć, nakon što je neimenovani predstavnik međunarodne zajednice zatražio od policije da pretraži objekat i oslobodi Filipinku.

Djevojku koja je, prema izvoru Srne, neredovno hranjena, loše tretirana, vjerovatno i seksualno iskorištavana, iz rezidencije je odveo neimenovani međunarodni zvaničnik koji je prisustvovao pretresu.

Zamjenik direktora Direkcije za koordinaciju policijskih tijela u BiH Uroš Pena danas je potvrdio pronalazak državljanke Filipina.

"Riječ je o službeniku Ambasade koji je u ne znam kojem odnosu sa ovom Filipinkom. U suštini, to je privatni odnos, ne znamo koje prirode", rekao je Pena.

On je dodao da je pronađena Filipinka imala odobren boravak, odnosno da u BiH nije bila ilegalno.

Pena je naveo da slučaj pronađene Filipinke nema veze sa Direkcijom, odnosno sa objektima koje obezbjeđuju njeni pripadnici.

Prema Peninim riječima, policija Kantona Sarajevo, odnosno pripadnici Policijske uprave Novo Sarajevo, bila je na licu mjesta.
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ambasada je ako nisi znao, teritorija te drzave, dakle u njoj vaze njihovi zakoni, pa se ti sad prekontaj vezano za zene koje rade kod njih ;-)
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evo nasao sam clanak koji sam citao prije nekoliko mjeseci ...
a moze se naci jos ovakvih slucajeva ako se malo pretrazi po internetu ...

http://www.faithfreedom.org/op-ed/germa ... f-sheikhs/
Germany Refuses to Help Slaves of Persian Gulf Sheikhs

Dr. Sami Alrabaa

Some students at Humboldt University of Berlin, Germany are human rights activists. As students of “Arab Sociology” they chose a project through which they wanted to investigate how petrodollar Arabs ill-treat their maids.

They checked with some first-class hotels and found “treasure troves” of abuse. Daniel, one of those students, said, “It was not difficult to find cases of abuse and slavery by petrodollar Arab tourists.”

Maids of petrodollar tourists are usually from the Philippines or India. The German students met some of them in hotel lobbies. Daniel spoke to one of them – Corazon, a trained school teacher back in the Philippines. She works as a maid for a Saudi Prince by the name “Mit’eb Bin Faisal Al Saud.”

As Corazon was supervising the kids of the Prince in the lobby, Daniel approached her and engaged her in small talk. She was very happy to be spoken to by a polite German.

Daniel learned that Corazon works for 24 hours a day and does not get one single day off. She has been working for the Saudi family for two years. Over these years she received only $ 300, which she sent to her family back in Mindanao. “This is one third of the sum the Prince pays for one single night in the hotel. I’m supposed to get $90 per month, but I have not.” Corazon said with tears in her eyes. “It is hell. I want to see my children,” she gasped.

Daniel met Corazon several times. She also told him that the “madam,” one of the Prince’s wives – he has four of them – beats her if she is not “quick” enough. “I don’t understand the world. She is religious and prays five times a day and yet she severely beats me with her shoes. She never says, ‘Thank you.’ What kind of a religious person is this?”

Corazon also told Daniel that the Prince sends his wife away for shopping with the children. “Then he plays pornographic movies and forces me to have sex with him and act like those women in the movie. This is disgusting. By the way, he is also religious and prays five times a day.”

Corazon added, “I feel like a slave, a prostitute, but for free. They treat me like a slave. I asked the Prince and his wife to fire me and let me go home, even without money. I don’t want their money. I’m yearning to see me three children and husband. I cry every day. I have not seen them for two years. The Prince confiscated my passport and I cannot leave without it. I contacted my embassy in Riyadh, but they told me, I cannot leave without my passport. The personnel at the Philippine embassy in Saudi Arabia are corrupt. They get enough money from the Saudis to hush up cases like mine. And I don’t have money to bribe them.”

Corazon appealed to Daniel to help her. She wanted to seek asylum in Germany. Daniel discussed Corazon’s case with his colleagues, and all decided to help her. They went to the nearest police station in Berlin and talked to the officer in charge. He told them, “It is a difficult case. We had several cases like this in the past. Saudi princes usually carry diplomatic passports and enjoy immunity, and managed to get away with their abuse of their maids. You can try it. You can help the girl apply for asylum. But I’m telling you, you’ll fail. And she will also fail to get asylum.”

Daniel was determined to help Corazon. On December 20, 2008, as the Prince and his wife were out shopping, Corazon left the hotel in Daniel’s car. He drove her to the same police station and helped her fill out an asylum form.

About three hours later, as the Prince and his wife arrived in the hotel and did not find Corazon, they alerted the Saudi Embassy. The Saudi ambassador – accompanied by Saudi security men and a German lawyer – asked the hotel’s top manager to review all movements around the hotel recorded by security cameras installed everywhere in and around the hotel. Suddenly they saw Corazon entering a car. The car number was jotted down and all drove to the nearest police station to file a kidnapping case against the owner of the car.

The Saudi Embassy’s lawyer urged the police to pursue the case and drive them to the residence of the “Kidnapper.” The police had no other choice. They drove to where Daniel was residing, in a student’s flat in Berlin.

To make a long story short, the police found Corazon in that flat. The Saudi Ambassador snatched her and she was driven back to the hotel. Daniel was arrested and accused of kidnapping Corazon. Corazon was so intimidated and scared that she did not utter a word. For the Saudis and the police that was a “happy ending.”

Christopher, a friend who works for both the Ministry of Home Affairs and Ministry of Foreign Affairs as a security man, told me the German government issued instructions to law enforcement on how to avoid diplomatic crises with the Saudis within the current economic and financial crisis. “The West needs the Saudi petrodollars.” Christopher said.

Tim, another German student doing a similar project, discovered another case of abuse. This time it is a Kuwaiti, a former member of parliament and a filthy rich businessman who has several supermarkets in Kuwait and Lebanon. His name is Khaled Bin Sultan Al Issa.

When Tim mentioned his name, I said, “I think I know the man.” I showed him a picture of Mr. Al Issa. Tim said, “It’s him.”

Although he is a vociferous Islamist in parliament and in the Kuwaiti society at large, he imports alcohol and pork from Germany for his outlets in Lebanon. This was confirmed by a German business partner.

Disguised as business people seeking partners in Kuwait, Tim and Mathias went to the Chamber of Industry and Trade in Hamburg. There they received a list of business partners in Kuwait. Al Issa’s name was also on the list.

Tim and his colleague Mathias observed Al Issa in the hotel lobby. One day they engaged him in small talk and invited him to a night club. He welcomed the idea. In the night club he drank alcohol and danced wildly.

This is not the same Al Issa who writes in Kuwaiti newspapers urging the state to introduce Shari’a. But he is the same as many other radical Muslims who do not practice what they preach. In public they preach “piety” and hatred against the infidels, but privately they commit the same sins they condemn, as well as exploit people.

In Hamburg, Al Issa resided in a first-class hotel (September 12-20, 2008) with two of his wives and a maid from the Philippines, Gloria.

Gloria told Tim a similar appalling experience like Corazon. She has been working for Al Issa for more than three years and received only $500, although according to her contract she is supposed to get $90 a month. Her pay has always been postponed. Besides, she is often sexually abused by Mr. Al Issa.

Gloria managed with the help of Tim to submit an asylum application and stay in Hamburg. Four months later her application was rejected and she was deported back to Kuwait, to her employer Al Issa, “To hell,” as she later wrote to Tim.

Al Issa’s German lawyer had filed charges against Gloria alleging that she was recruited by a night club in St. Pauli as a prostitute. Further, “There was no justification whatsoever for granting her asylum. She is not persecuted in her home country, the Philippines.” The police told Tim.

“But why did you deport her to Kuwait and not to the Philippines?” asked Tim angrily. The police said, “No comment!” Then Tim shouted, “Stop supporting slavery!”

Tim was also warned by Al Issa’s lawyer not to contact the media. He and Daniel contacted me and wanted me to publicize the above cases of abuse.

Tim wrote to several members of the Bundestag (parliament), but he received either no reply, or “sorry” replies.

Khaled Bin Sultan Al Issa

German politics, particularly as far as human rights are concerned, are hypocritical. For example, while Frank Walter Steinmeier, the German foreign minister, declared several times that Germany is ready to welcome Guantanamo detainees/terrorists, German authorities reject asylum seekers who really deserve refuge and protection.

Abusers of human rights are welcome in Germany but not their victims. German politicians and mainstream media were full of praise to the sheikhs of Abu Dhabi for supporting Mercedes with $2 billion in the current economic and financial crisis. And negotiations are under way to attract Saudi and Qatari investors to salvage bankrupt German car companies like Opel.

With their billions of petrodollars the Arab sheikhs have so far succeeded in silencing critics of the Saudi regime and the other Emirates at the Persian Gulf. Although the whole world is aware of the fact that Saudi Arabia funds and supports spreading Wahhabi Islam, which incites to hatred and violence against non-Muslims and non-Sunnis across the world, and treats its foreign workers as slaves, business as usual for the West – including Germany – obviously comes first, not human rights.

Think of Tony Blair who stopped a corruption case in an arms deal (of $20 billion) with Saudi Arabia, in which Prince Bandar Bin Sultan was involved. Blair argued, prosecuting the case would jeopardize the British arms industry and thousands of jobs.

Jürgen Möllemann, former chairman of the German Free Democratic Party, committed suicide in 2003 as his secrete accounts were discovered in Switzerland. Some of the money stored in these accounts came from the Saudis. In my presence, as I was translating for him in Riyadh in 1995, he received from Prince Salman, the governor of Riyadh, a check of $40 million.

My book Die Tyrannei der tausend Prinzen (The Tyranny of Thousand Princes) was deliberately ignored by the German mainstream media under the pressure of Möllemann and his retainers.

Money comes and goes, but lack of ethics and hypocrisy remain part of the legacy of those who practice them. For some politicians, political survival transcends political correctness.

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex-Muslim, is a professor of Sociology and an Arab-Muslim culture specialist. He has taught at Kuwait University, King Saud University, and Michigan State University. He also writes for the Jerusalem Post.
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ratata wrote:ambasada je ako nisi znao, teritorija te drzave, dakle u njoj vaze njihovi zakoni, pa se ti sad prekontaj vezano za zene koje rade kod njih ;-)
u novinama pise da su NATO zvanicnici upali u rezidenciju tj. stan tog diplomate ...

uglavnom ja kad sam procitao tu vijest odmah sam se sjetio slicnih slucajeva sto sam citao da su se desili ...
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u clanku pise da je jedan NATO zvanicnik otisao da izvuce djevojku u svojstvu privatnog lica ...
ono sto je meni upalo u oko da ovo nije prvi slucaj takvog tipa kada se radi o bogatasima iz tog regiona ...
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masa slucajeva ovakvih ima sa bogatim arapima... pogan obicna koja se ponasa kao arijevci nekad
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Cholina_Lokica wrote:masa slucajeva ovakvih ima sa bogatim arapima... pogan obicna koja se ponasa kao arijevci nekad

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neshto_pisem wrote:u clanku pise da je jedan NATO zvanicnik otisao da izvuce djevojku u svojstvu privatnog lica ...
ono sto je meni upalo u oko da ovo nije prvi slucaj takvog tipa kada se radi o bogatasima iz tog regiona ...

ovo je tvoja ciljna grupa...
daj malo prosiri vidike pa da i mi razvijemo diskusiju...
ovo je svakako za osudu...
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ne razumijem kakva ciljna grupa ...
u temi je receno da ovakvi skandali nisu prvi put da se desavaju sa bogatim seicima , biznismenima ili diplomatama sa bliskog istoka ...
samo se vecinom zataska , a moze se naci dosta slucajeva ako se pretrazi internet ...


i o cemu drugo bi se pricalo ako je vec to tema ?
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Ne znam ni zasto imamo diplomatske odnose sa Saudijskom Arabijom.

A i njima je sigurno tesko zivjeti u Bosni gdje nema njima prijeko potrebnog bling-blinga. Sigurno ih po kazni salju u BiH :D
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FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex-Muslim, is a professor of Sociology and an Arab-Muslim culture specialist. He has taught at Kuwait University, King Saud University, and Michigan State University. He also writes for the Jerusalem Post.[/quote][/quote]

Za ovaj slučaj u Bosni nisam čuo. Ali, da su ovakvi slučajevi nerijetki na Bliskom Istoku, to je činjenica. Često sam i sam bio svjedok ponižavajućeg odnosa kuvajtske ili saudijske porodice prema sluškinjama (maids) za vrijeme mog boravka dole.

Sluškinje su uglavnom iz Filipina, Bangladeša, Indije i Šri Lanke. U zemlje Zaliva dolaze preko posredničkih HR firmi u zemlji porijekla koje nerijetko od ovih jadnica uzimaju mito da bi ušle u sistem.

U mom razgovoru sa nekoliko ovih žena one su mi govorile da idu kući jednom u 3 godine, često su neredovno plaćene, pojedine žene su i žrtve nasilja (što se često može pročitati u lokalnim novinama).
Naravno, sa dosta žena se i sasvim korektno postupa i kuvajtska porodica ih tretira kao dio njih. Ovo nije rijetko.
Neke od ovih Filipinki su obični oportunisti i čim gazda dodje u Evropu one se počnu žaliti i traže azil. Jedinstvena prilika da se ostane u civilizaciji. Nemam razloga da vjerujem da je ovo taj slučaj, ali da ima onih koje koriste gužvu je takodje činjenica.

Ono što mene zanima je tvoj nijjet iliti razlog za tvoju temu. S obzirom da je izvor tvoje informacije anti-islamska stranica čiji su reporteri često navodno ex-muslimani, a gazde ove stranice dobijaju seksualni drive kada se piše loše o muslimanima, imam razloga da sumnjam u tvoje motive.
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