Englezi, ipak moralni pobjednici Svjetskog Prvenstva u Njemackoj?
Danas je uhapseno preko 200 engleskih navijaca kada su udarili na njemacke navijace nakon njihove utakmice sa Svedskom.
Preko 300 uhapseno u zadnja dva dana.
Sutra se ocekuje dolazak oko 60000 engleskih navijaca.
Riot police arrest England fans
Police in Stuttgart are dealing with the confrontation between fans
Riot police are arresting England supporters in Stuttgart's main square.
German police are leading away about 200 England fans, who were held together in a corner of the square. Chairs and bottles were thrown earlier by small groups of rival fans.
The rest of the square is filled with thousands watching the Argentina vs Mexico match on the big screen.
Of the 122 England fans arrested in Stuttgart on Friday night all are likely to be held until Monday.
Currently, police are surrounding the remaining fans in the square but the atmosphere has eased.
Germany win
BBC News's Claire Heald said German fans were leaving the square following Germany's 2-0 win over Sweden but a small group had refused to move past a bar in which England supporters had gathered and riot police moved in.
English and German fans are singing songs at each other in a good-natured but rowdy atmosphere - but in hot conditions a lot of beer is being drunk
Claire Heald
In pictures: England fans
Missiles were thrown during the initial confrontation and the police then created a barrier to keep the fans about 50m apart.
Erwin Hetger, head of the state police, said: "We had no problems at all with the French, Swiss and Dutch fans that were having a great party here.
"It all changed when the English fans arrived. The atmosphere changed. The incidents began late yesterday evening."
He praised the help he had received from the British police who are in Germany for the tournament.
Earlier, police warned that any fans arrested could miss England's match against Ecuador on Sunday.
But they have stressed that the majority of the expected 60,000 England fans set to watch the game in Stuttgart had not caused authorities any problems.
On Friday, police had tried to move a group of drunken fans in the main square who were singing songs insulting to Germans and other nationalities.
But the group refused to disperse and some threw bottles and chairs, as well as singing racist chants. One man has been charged with assault, after allegedly throwing a chair which hit a Tunisia fan.
Arrested fans could miss the England match on Sunday
The arrests on Friday night and in the early hours of Saturday more than doubled the number of UK citizens held so far during the World Cup.
Total arrests of all nationalities during the tournament stands at more than 4,000.
England are due to play Ecuador in Stuttgart on Sunday at 1600 BST.
Engleski navijaci
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Eshek
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#6
Ne slažem se. Znam lično vođe navijača Galate i gledao sam svojim očima kako se organizuju i pripremaju. To je sve, samo nije obična rulja. Ima i takvih, ali ih ima i u Engleskoj, tako da se ne može generalizovati.Kong wrote:Nisam neki obožavatelj Engleza , ali Turci s njima ne mogu stati ni u istu rečenicu (u navijačkom kontekstu). Prije svega zato što su Turci puno više obična rulja s noževima nego navijačka skupina.
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Kong
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Moguće. Ja sam ih dva put gledao uživo u "akciji" i takav su dojam na mene ostavili. Napadaju isključivo u gomili kad su brojno daleko nadmoćniji. Istina , oba puta su to bila njihova gostovanja pa je tu bilo i masu onih koji s navijačkim skupinama ustvari nemaju veze , što im je olakotna okolnostEshek wrote:Ne slažem se. Znam lično vođe navijača Galate i gledao sam svojim očima kako se organizuju i pripremaju. To je sve, samo nije obična rulja. Ima i takvih, ali ih ima i u Engleskoj, tako da se ne može generalizovati.Kong wrote:Nisam neki obožavatelj Engleza , ali Turci s njima ne mogu stati ni u istu rečenicu (u navijačkom kontekstu). Prije svega zato što su Turci puno više obična rulja s noževima nego navijačka skupina.
. Ne znam , meni nisu simpatični ni oni ni Grci , mada im priznajem ludu atmosferu na stadionima. 
U svakom slučaju i dalje tvrdim da se ne mogu porediti s Englezima , a bome ni sa Nizozemcima ili Poljacima.
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Edin H.
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Engleski navijaci sa ponosom i dostojanstvom napustili Svjetsko Prvenstvo
120 uhapseno u Gelsenkirchen-u
U Jersey-ju napadnuti Portugalci koji cine 10% populacije
U Bolton-u 500 navijaca napalo policiju. Neredi trajali 2 i pol sata.
England fans arrested in Germany
The arrests followed England's defeat in the World Cup
German police have arrested 120 England football fans in Gelsenkirchen after the team was knocked out of the World Cup by Portugal.
Saturday's quarter-final game went to penalties which Portugal won 3-1.
After the match more than 150 England and Portugal fans were involved in clashes with police on Jersey. There were 25 arrests, Jersey Police said.
The England team are set to return to the UK later on Sunday. Their plane is expected in London and Manchester.
I was convinced we had a team who could reach the final
Sven-Goran Eriksson
'Squad is heartbroken'
England out: Your comments
Party over for fans
Police in Gelsenkirchen said many of the detentions were preventative and added that all of the fans have already been released.
In total 180 fans were held and the others were mainly Germans, a spokesman said.
The spokesman added: "They have all been released, many after having to sober up."
Unrest on the streets of Jersey's capital St Helier began shortly after the Portugal win and officers sealed off an area of Portuguese shops and businesses.
Around 10% of Jersey's population is of Portuguese origin.
It only the second time in the island's history that riot police have been deployed there.
In Harlesden, north London, the mood was celebratory as jubilant Portuguese fans drove up and down the high street cheering, and waving flags from their cars.
But in Bolton, Greater Manchester, up to 500 drunken football fans attacked police in a major disturbance.
Police say they were overwhelmed by the trouble which lasted for around two and a half hours.
Twelve people were arrested but no-one was injured.
120 uhapseno u Gelsenkirchen-u
U Jersey-ju napadnuti Portugalci koji cine 10% populacije
U Bolton-u 500 navijaca napalo policiju. Neredi trajali 2 i pol sata.
England fans arrested in Germany
The arrests followed England's defeat in the World Cup
German police have arrested 120 England football fans in Gelsenkirchen after the team was knocked out of the World Cup by Portugal.
Saturday's quarter-final game went to penalties which Portugal won 3-1.
After the match more than 150 England and Portugal fans were involved in clashes with police on Jersey. There were 25 arrests, Jersey Police said.
The England team are set to return to the UK later on Sunday. Their plane is expected in London and Manchester.
I was convinced we had a team who could reach the final
Sven-Goran Eriksson
'Squad is heartbroken'
England out: Your comments
Party over for fans
Police in Gelsenkirchen said many of the detentions were preventative and added that all of the fans have already been released.
In total 180 fans were held and the others were mainly Germans, a spokesman said.
The spokesman added: "They have all been released, many after having to sober up."
Unrest on the streets of Jersey's capital St Helier began shortly after the Portugal win and officers sealed off an area of Portuguese shops and businesses.
Around 10% of Jersey's population is of Portuguese origin.
It only the second time in the island's history that riot police have been deployed there.
In Harlesden, north London, the mood was celebratory as jubilant Portuguese fans drove up and down the high street cheering, and waving flags from their cars.
But in Bolton, Greater Manchester, up to 500 drunken football fans attacked police in a major disturbance.
Police say they were overwhelmed by the trouble which lasted for around two and a half hours.
Twelve people were arrested but no-one was injured.
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semso poplava
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odakle si ti lafe??Edin H. wrote:Engleski navijaci sa ponosom i dostojanstvom napustili Svjetsko Prvenstvo
iz Zunovnice??
ili imas 13.5 godina (sto znaci uzo 14-u) pa su ti tetovirani debeli krezavi klosari od 40-55 godina kojima je smisao zivota ispijanje klipaca i odlazak u Holandiju po vuvu pravo fascinantni a jos njih 250 onda uhvate kakvog jadu pa ga nacipelaju i pokazu da su pravo (za)jebani
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Edin H.
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#14
Postovani Mr poplava,
Kao prvo izgleda bas ne kontas ironiju, pa si zato kopirao taj pasus.
Kao drugo tacno je da postujem cinjenicu da je 80000 Engleza otislo da podrzi reprezentaciju, bez obzira na godine, posao kojim se bave, familije ili slicno sto je uglavnom izgovor nasim misevima koji to mogu priustiti (BH Fanaticos respect) da ne dodju i podrze nasu reprezentaciju.
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Da mozda ti nisi bio jedan od nas tridesetak koji su podrzali reprezentaciju u najvaznijoj utakmici nasih kvalifikacija u Spaniji, da mozda ti nisi onaj momak sto je zapuco Spanca kada je htio oteti nas transparent?
Jesi li bio semso u Belgiji, San Marinu ili Litvaniji?
Dobro mozda viza.
Jesli li bio na Marakani onda?
Odradi par jakih gostovanja jarane, pa ces onda imati respect za prave navijace poput Engleza.
Ja inace postujem Skote vise od njih, jer su manja nacija, lose igraju, a svaku utakicu na strani ima ih barem nekoliko hiljada.
Ali se nisu kvalificirali, kao ni mi.
Ne navija se semso preko Interneta
Kao prvo izgleda bas ne kontas ironiju, pa si zato kopirao taj pasus.
Kao drugo tacno je da postujem cinjenicu da je 80000 Engleza otislo da podrzi reprezentaciju, bez obzira na godine, posao kojim se bave, familije ili slicno sto je uglavnom izgovor nasim misevima koji to mogu priustiti (BH Fanaticos respect) da ne dodju i podrze nasu reprezentaciju.
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Da mozda ti nisi bio jedan od nas tridesetak koji su podrzali reprezentaciju u najvaznijoj utakmici nasih kvalifikacija u Spaniji, da mozda ti nisi onaj momak sto je zapuco Spanca kada je htio oteti nas transparent?
Jesi li bio semso u Belgiji, San Marinu ili Litvaniji?
Dobro mozda viza.
Jesli li bio na Marakani onda?
Odradi par jakih gostovanja jarane, pa ces onda imati respect za prave navijace poput Engleza.
Ja inace postujem Skote vise od njih, jer su manja nacija, lose igraju, a svaku utakicu na strani ima ih barem nekoliko hiljada.
Ali se nisu kvalificirali, kao ni mi.
Ne navija se semso preko Interneta
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Kukuruz_Barbe-q
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#15
A mozda covjek nema para(bez uvrede) da ide po San Marinu,Spaniji,Litvaniji itd.?
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Edin H.
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#17
Ama svakako si u pravu kukuruz, pa i sam sam rekao da, ako nista drugo postoji problem viza.Kukuruz_Barbe-q wrote:A mozda covjek nema para(bez uvrede) da ide po San Marinu,Spaniji,Litvaniji itd.?
Ali bila je Srbija, bice nekad Makedonija, Crna Gora, Hrvatska.
To se uglavnom moze priustiti.
Znam da ce neko sada reci "lopovi iz Saveza".
Ali sta je tu je, ne mozemo mijenjati reprezentaciju.
Samo vidje li ti kako on mene nalijepi, a mozda ima 0 gostovanja za klub ili za reprezentaciju.
