Da li je Child In Time plagijat?

ado-šampion · Post by **ado-šampion** » 16/10/2005 18:52

Ovo sam vidio na dosta foruma pa i na ovom. Navodno je plagijat pjesme Bombay Calling grupe It' A Beautiful Day sa istoismenog albuma (1969). Purple je Child In Time izdao(li) na In Rock albumu (1970). Ne znam kad je bio singl. Šta vi mislite i zna li neko nešto o ovome? Nisam slušao Bombay Calling, mrsko mi skidat' sa dial-up-om.

Murat Sabanovic · Post by **Murat Sabanovic** » 16/10/2005 20:06

ado-šampion wrote:Ovo sam vidio na dosta foruma pa i na ovom. Navodno je plagijat pjesme Bombay Calling grupe It' A Beautiful Day sa istoismenog albuma (1969). Purple je Child In Time izdao(li) na In Rock albumu (1970). Ne znam kad je bio singl. Šta vi mislite i zna li neko nešto o ovome? Nisam slušao Bombay Calling, mrsko mi skidat' sa dial-up-om.

EVO ADO SLUSAJ PJESMU PA CES I SAM VIDJETI DA JE CHILD IN TIME OD PURPLA 70 POSTO PLAGIJAT

http://rapidshare.de/files/6365525/It_s ... g.mp3.html

r_faruk · Post by **r_faruk** » 16/10/2005 21:37

fakat, boga mi plagijat

ado-šampion · Post by **ado-šampion** » 16/10/2005 23:01

Slušao sam Bombay Calling i čini mi se da su uzeti bas gitara i orgulje sa početka Child In Time, a ostalo nigdje veze. Bar po meni. Child In Time sam preslušao barem 100 puta! Sad još je upitno ko je od koga "ukrao" jer je Child In Time po mnogima najbolja pjesma svih vremena, a za ovaj Bombay nikad nisam čuo, mada je sigurno da je ta pjesma izašla na albumu 1969, a Child In Time je prvi puta izveden isto 1969, uživo (u Septembru mjesecu). Ako neko pronađe informacije o ovome nek se javi. Ja nisam uspio pronaći apsolutno ništa, prelistao sam i forum sa službene stranice Purple-a (http://www.thehighwaystar.com)

Murat Sabanovic · Post by **Murat Sabanovic** » 16/10/2005 23:40

ado-šampion wrote:Slušao sam Bombay Calling i čini mi se da su uzeti bas gitara i orgulje sa početka Child In Time, a ostalo nigdje veze. Bar po meni. Child In Time sam preslušao barem 100 puta! Sad još je upitno ko je od koga "ukrao" jer je Child In Time po mnogima najbolja pjesma svih vremena, a za ovaj Bombay nikad nisam čuo, mada je sigurno da je ta pjesma izašla na albumu 1969, a Child In Time je prvi puta izveden isto 1969, uživo (u Septembru mjesecu). Ako neko pronađe informacije o ovome nek se javi. Ja nisam uspio pronaći apsolutno ništa, prelistao sam i forum sa službene stranice Purple-a (http://www.thehighwaystar.com)

grijesis ,child in time je poslije nastao nego bombay calling...
cak i ian gillain je izjavio da je inspirsao child in time sa ovom pjesmom
prema tome nikako drukcije nemoze bit .david la flamme vodja ovog banda je tuzio deep purple zbog kradje ,medjutim u 70 godinama je to tesko islo i nije se nista uradilo
purple je na par mjesta izmjenio odnosno nadovezo koju notu i ubacio tekst ...
http://www.roadhogs.net/laflamme/index.htm
mali isjecak u vezi pjesme... citaj ako nevjerujes onda ti nemogu pomoci
ali mozes i citav intervju procitati,ako hoces da skontas nesto o ovoj grupi

David: OK, I’ll tell you another fun interesting another sad story. Seems all I have is sad stories and when it comes to the music business most of it is not pretty story and this is another one that is not so pretty. I performed some forty five times at the Filmore Auditorium and early in nineteen..... some of the performances were in 1968. In fact I think it was the first time It’s a Beautiful Day headlined the Filmore Auditorium. The group that played just before us was a group called Deep Purple. In 1970 they came out with an album and on that album of theirs appeared a song that appeared musically to be pretty much identical to my composition "Bombay Calling." Anyone who has listened to it including a copyright attorney that I have hired recently. Other friends, musicians and so on agree that the song was definitely plagiarized from "Bombay Calling." They call it "Child In Time." Now I had never heard it. I had heard about it. I had no idea what the title was. I wasn’t even sure what group it was. But last year a friend of mine called me who had just gone to see a film called "Breaking the Way." And was astounded to hear this piece of music on the soundtrack of the movie. This sounded identical to him to "Bombay Calling." This famous actor, who is a friend of mine, he and his wife went out the next morning and bought the soundtrack to "Breaking the Waves" and invited us to dinner. To come up and have dinner they had a surprise for us. The surprise was he put on the soundtrack and on comes this song and I’ll be darned if it doesn’t of course sound just like "Bombay Calling," except it has a few lyrics to it. they call it "Child in Time." So I took the soundtrack to a copyright attorney and showed him my copyright for the song which is dated 1968. Showed him where we had performed with the group in late 1968, right around the time the album had come out or was just going to come out. They had recorded that song and another song that they called "Ring That Neck" on their album. Now those two songs of course I called "Dawn and Dewy" and "Bombay Calling" and had their copyrights in 1968 and 1969 on those two pieces. So right now we are preparing the necessary paper work to file injunction against the use of the song "Child in Time" or the sale of any product that includes the song "Child in Time" in it, including the soundtrack. Sixteen albums I have discovered so far that contain one or both of those two pieces of music.

John: And both of them are performed by Deep Purple?

David: Yes, Now the law says you have three years from time of use to make an appeal or file an injunction like this. Well of course "Breaking Waves" was a movie last year so we are well within the three year limit there. I don’t know about the "Dawn and Dewy" song. The latest album I could find that on was a recently rerelease.. an album called "Made in Japan" I believe or something like that was 1989 the song "Wring The Neck" appears on. That’s the latest I can find on that. It might be too late to do anything about that other than to use it as evidence to prove our point. But certainly on the "Child In Time" song which appears to be the second most popular song Deep Purple ever did. It appears on essentially the same compilation and so on that "Smoke on the Water" does. So if you see "Smoke on the Water" on the album you will also see "Child in Time" because it appeared on that album "Smoke On the Water" initially that "Smoke on the Water" appeared on. That was their big breakthrough album I believe and they used my music to do it. People do strange things like that and they think they are going to get away with it and they might. We’ll see.

Murat Sabanovic · Post by **Murat Sabanovic** » 16/10/2005 23:54

evo ti i ova pjesma don dewey ... mnogi kriticari tvrde da je i ovu purple mahno mada ona meni nema puno slicnosti sa purplovim wring that neck
ali child in time je zesci plagijat

http://rapidshare.de/files/6374003/it_s ... y.mp3.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/6374146/105_ ... t.mp3.html

ado-šampion · Post by **ado-šampion** » 17/10/2005 11:10

Pročitao sam intervju, ali opet to je nešto pravo sumnjivo, jer, rekao sam prije, Child In Time je jedna od najboljih pjesama svih vremena a za ovu nisam (čitaj: niko nije) nikad čuo. I ne vjerujem baš da bi Purple postao tako jaka grupa da su plagirali najbolju pjesmu. Opet kažem, sličnost postoji i to po meni samo u početku (gotovo identično) ali dalje nema veze. Kao što si naveo da je Gillan rekao, pjesma im je možda bila inspiracija.

ado-šampion · Post by **ado-šampion** » 17/10/2005 11:36

Evo odgovora na sva pitanja:
http://www.thehighwaystar.com/rosas/dis ... s_a-c.html

Child In Time:
Interesting note:
Deep Purple admits to "borrowing" the beginning of Child In Time from It's A Beautiful Day's Bombay Calling. It's A Beautiful Day then used the tune of Wring That Neck for Don And Dewey on their Marrying Maiden album as a sort-of exchange.

Evo i ovo:

On the musical side, there used to be this song Bombay Calling by a band called It's A Beautiful Day. It was fresh and original, when Jon was one day playing it on his keyboard. It sounded good, and we thought we'd play around with it, change it a bit and do something new keeping that as a base. - Ian Gillan, extract from a DPAS interview 3rd May 2002

Murat Sabanovic · Post by **Murat Sabanovic** » 17/10/2005 12:22

ado-šampion wrote:Pročitao sam intervju, ali opet to je nešto pravo sumnjivo, jer, rekao sam prije, Child In Time je jedna od najboljih pjesama svih vremena a za ovu nisam (čitaj: niko nije) nikad čuo. I ne vjerujem baš da bi Purple postao tako jaka grupa da su plagirali najbolju pjesmu. Opet kažem, sličnost postoji i to po meni samo u početku (gotovo identično) ali dalje nema veze. Kao što si naveo da je Gillan rekao, pjesma im je možda bila inspiracija.

ado sluso si pjesmo po meni je child in time 70 posto plagijat,
jos gillan izjavljuje da je navodno pjesma bila inspiarcija
pa kako ce onda child in time prije nastati...
doduse mnogi svjetski rock kriticari tvrde da je pjesma plagijat a ti neces da priznas samo zato sto si fun od purpla .pa i ja sam... i meni je child in time jedna od najdrzih pjesama .....
prije par mjeseci sam reagovo isto kao i ti ali sam se malo informiso..... kupijo par cd od it s beautiful day sluso njihovu ziku
i uvjerio se da su oni po ovakom stilu sviranja prepoznatljivi bili u 60 godinama.
cak se tvrdi za ovu dole sto sam postavio da je i ona plagijat mada ne lici
ali muzicari izokrenu par nota napravie malu pazu izmedju nota
i ispadne pjesma drukcija.
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