Evo upravo sam skinuo snimak i pogledao sam ga. Zaista ne kontam na osnovu cega su zakljucili da je snimak napravljen u BiH ili da se kamp nazali u BiH ? Na snimku se ni po cemu ne moze zakljuciti da se bas radi o BiH. Snimak je poprilicno "namontiran" isjecen tako da zaista sumnjam o autenticnosti istog. Vasi komentari ?Cybercast News objavio video-snimak terorističkog kampa u BiH
Teroristi koji su ranije za cilj imali napade na SAD sada se nalaze u BiH, javila je agencija "Cybercast News" (CNS) objavljujući, također, video-snimak iz 2004. godine za koji eksperti za terorizam kažu da prikazuje aktivan džihadski trenažni kamp u BiH, prenose Nezavisne novine.
Video-snimak prikazuje manevre koji se izvode vani, trening sa eksplozivom, fizički trening u nečemu što liči na fiskulturnu salu i vježbe za uzimanje talaca.
Ivan Kolman, ekspert za terorizam i pisac, rekao je za CNS da su glavni kampovi koji su korišteni tokom rata zatvoreni, ali da se pojavila druga taktika u vidu organizovanja kampova za mlade koji služe kao paravan. Kampove, kaže, uglavnom vode stariji mudžahedini sa vojnim iskustvom.
"Oni odvode mlade ljude u brda i tamo provode džihadski trening. Iako zvuči blesavo, oni su shvatili da je ovakvim kampovima teško ući u trag", tvrdi Kolman.
Kolman je rekao da je cilj terorista da stvore mrežu ćelija, a ne da formiraju stalni kamp koji bi davao ljude za borbene linije. Dodao je da "veoma mali broj Bosanaca to privlači".
Kristofer Braun, istraživač sa Hadson instituta, kazao je da su mnogi od tih kampova za obuku terorista veoma mobilni.
"Ćelije Al Kaide u Bosni su postavljene početkom devedesetih od strane Ajmana al Zavahrija, desne ruke Bin Ladena, koji je dva puta posjećivao BiH devedesetih godina", rekao je Braun.
CNS tvrdi da se teroristi, koji su poslije odsluženja kazne pušteni na slobodu, kreću prema BiH, gdje imaju pristup džihadskim kampovima za trening, oružju i ilegalnim islamskim "dobrotvornim fondovima".
"Osuđeni terorista Karim Said Atmani nedavno se vratio u Bosnu nakon što je pušten iz francuskog zatvora zbog 'dobrog ponašanja'", tvrdi Kolman.
Atmani je Marokanac povezan sa islamskom organizacijom GIA, odgovornom za otmicu aviona i postavljanje bombi u metro u Francuskoj.
Sigurnu luku u BiH, dodaje CNS, našao je i Abu el Maali, koji se kao i Atmani, borio u ratu u BiH. El Maali je kasnije bio optužen od strane francuskih vlasti za pokušaj krijumčarenja eksploziva 1998. godine egipatskoj terorističkoj grupi koja je planirala da uništi američke vojne objekte u Njemačkoj.
On je, također, bio optužen za predvođenje terorističkih ćelija u BiH, Pakistanu i Avganistanu.
Marko Atila Hoare, istraživač sa Katedre istorije pri Univerzitetu Kembridž, ocjenjuje da su priče o kampovima u BiH "preuveličane".
"Nijedan bosanski musliman nije bio uključen u terorističke akte. Al Kaida je pokušala i nije joj uspjelo da pretvori Bosnu u džihadsku bazu", kaže Hoare, dodajući da "blaga verzija islama u BiH nije pogodna za islamiste". CNS navodi da je Islamska fondacija "Al Haramain", dobrotvorni fond za koji su SAD kazale da pomaže terorističke operacije, zatvorio svoje kancelarije u Bosni, ali da su oni nakon toga ponovo osnovani pod drugim imenom "Vazir". Nova organizacija je registrovana kao "udruženje za sport, kulturu i obrazovanje".
CybercastNews objavio video-snimak terorističkog kampa u BiH
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Drvosjeca iz Dejcica
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#1 CybercastNews objavio video-snimak terorističkog kampa u BiH
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*TAMARA*
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Ma to netreba uopste gledati a jos manje vjerovati......Zasto uvek kada se treba sastanciti o reformi policije, "desavaju" se neke stvari 
Na pr. upaljaci sa kojim se izvrsio teroristicki napad u Madridu, navodno "napravljene" u Bosni....... 
Na isti dan samog sastanka o reformi policije, prije nekoliko dana, ubijen Srbin
Danas opet pregovori o policiji.......izlazi ovaj "video"
Pa sta mislite, kome ide u prilog ovaka "sranja" i ko se svim silama bori da ne bude reforma policije u BiH???? Takvi ne biraju sredstva da ostvare svoje ciljeve 
Na pr. upaljaci sa kojim se izvrsio teroristicki napad u Madridu, navodno "napravljene" u Bosni....... Na isti dan samog sastanka o reformi policije, prije nekoliko dana, ubijen Srbin
Danas opet pregovori o policiji.......izlazi ovaj "video"
Pa sta mislite, kome ide u prilog ovaka "sranja" i ko se svim silama bori da ne bude reforma policije u BiH???? Takvi ne biraju sredstva da ostvare svoje ciljeve -
Zrinski
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Ja bona sve se urotilo protiv nas. Cijeli svijet nas ne podnosi ko' nekad srbe.*TAMARA* wrote:Ma to netreba uopste gledati a jos manje vjerovati......Zasto uvek kada se treba sastanciti o reformi policije, "desavaju" se neke stvari
Na isti dan samog sastanka o reformi policije, prije nekoliko dana, ubijen Srbin
Danas opet pregovori o policiji.......izlazi ovaj "video"
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Larci
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Evo pogledao sam ovah film... i nisam se nikad prije ovako ismijao 
... pogledajte i vidite kako su momci/teroristi sposobni hahahah.. jao onoga sto po klupi gmize pa onih sto se uz konop penju... jao jao...Pogledajte... molim vas.!http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRepor ... 0817a.html
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rewritable
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Ma nema.
Sve autentiče BH lokacije. Livade, puteljci, zidovi, šljive. Valjda to samo kod nas ima.
A da ne govorim o toj surovoj obuci. Bacanje ručnih granata, eksplozije, šunjanje po fosni, penjanje uz masnu pritku...
Čist dokaz da tu nisu čista posla.
Za ove što ovo smišljaju znam da nisu normalni, ali oni koji povjeruju...
Sve autentiče BH lokacije. Livade, puteljci, zidovi, šljive. Valjda to samo kod nas ima.
A da ne govorim o toj surovoj obuci. Bacanje ručnih granata, eksplozije, šunjanje po fosni, penjanje uz masnu pritku...
Čist dokaz da tu nisu čista posla.
Za ove što ovo smišljaju znam da nisu normalni, ali oni koji povjeruju...
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Mujkan
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Trebali bi Bosnjaci da se rijese islamskog terorizma.
http://www.nin.co.yu/index.php?s=free&a ... =6&id=4386
Direktor CIA podelio zadatke
Hoće li nešto promeniti poseta Portera Gosa Bosni i Hercegovini? Za Ameriku verovatno, za BiH teško. Ukoliko bi bilo drugačije, pali bi mnogi stereotipi
Kao što i priliči šefu najmoćnije tajne policije – niko ga nije video, ali svi znaju da je bio u Sarajevu. Reč je, naravno, o direktoru američke CIA Porteru Gosu, ovde još poznatom iz vremena kada je kao američki kongresmen upozoravao da će Al kaida premestiti svoje baze sa Bliskog istoka u Evropu. Još tada se spekulisalo da je on pre svega mislio na Bosnu i Hercegovinu.
I, logično, svi ovde veruju da je došao da proveri ta svoja predviđanja. Visokopozicionirani izvor NIN-a u bezbednosnim strukturama BiH tvrdi – ne samo da proveri, već je čovek doneo i dokaze, a onda i podelio zadatke kako međunarodnoj upravi, tako i domaćim obaveštajno-bezbednosnim službama.
Šereti su se odmah setili onog starog predratnog štosa: ako je hiljaditi deo grama miligram, onda je hiljaditi deo CIA – milicija. I, eto, došlo vreme da se vidi šta može taj “hiljaditi deo CIA”. Za šegačenje, međutim, vreme nije. Već predugo i međunarodna uprava i oficijelno Sarajevo pod kontrolom drže priču o mudžahedinskim formacijama i islamskim dobrovoljcima iz vremena rata. I izgleda da je došlo vreme da se barem delimično skine misterija sa priče. Na to upućuje i dramaturgija pre i posle posete Portera Gosa.
Neposredno posle nje, Ministarstvo bezbednosti Saudijske Arabije (veruje se da je pod velikom američkom kontrolom) objavilo je listu 36 najtraženijih terorista pripadnika Al kaide. Odmah je utvrđeno da najmanje dvojica imaju državljanstvo BiH – šef te saudijske grupe Junuz Muhamed al Hajari i Zaid Sad al Šamari. Ovog prvog, dva dana nakon objavljivanja poternice, prema agencijskim vestima, saudijske službe bezbednosti su ubile prilikom pokušaja hapšenja. Saudijska poternica je u BiH ponovo oživela temu o naturalizovanim građanima BiH iz islamskih zemalja.
Ministarstvo civilnih poslova u Savetu ministara BiH pritisnuto ovim vestima za sada je priznalo da je ovo državljanstvo dobilo nešto više od 900 ljudi i to, uglavnom, na osnovu toga što su bili pripadnici Armije BiH. Mediji, međutim, veruju da podatak Ministarstva civilnih poslova treba uzeti s velikom rezervom i iznose podatke o mnogo većem broju naturalizovanih građana BiH koji su delom ostali ovde, a delom se raspršili po celom svetu.
Izvor NIN-a o kojem je bilo reč upozorava na oprez prilikom navođenja imena: “Tu se radi o višestrukom pranju identiteta, jednostavno se ne zna za mnoge ni gde su rođeni, ni kako su se ranije zvali, sve je to vrlo, vrlo komplikovano.”
Bilo kako bilo, taj ubijeni šef saudijskog dela Al kaide, koji je posedovao BiH pasoš, borio se u Četvrtoj brigadi Armije BiH u Konjicu, utvrdila je štampa i još pronašla njegovog komandanta koji je danas imam sarajevske džamije “Kralj Fahd” i koji ima samo reči hvale za svog bivšeg saborca. Kako je bio oženjen Bošnjakinjom, pronađen je i njegov tast – Jusuf Alić iz sela Homolje kod Konjica, koji tvrdi da je zeta znao pod drugim imenom.
O ovom primeru toliko opširno jer je samo jedan u nizu. On, između ostalog, demistifikuje i ulogu međunarodne uprave u BiH. Tako samo mesec dana ranije, kada je direktor policije MUP-a Republike Srpske Dragomir Andan izneo podatke o mreži Al kaide u BiH (NIN je o tome pisao), Pedi Ešdaun ga je naterao da uputi javno pismeno izvinjenje javnosti BiH. Nešto slično uradio je i sveprisutni Žak Klajn kada je 1996. godine grupa mudžahedina okupirala srpsko selo Bočinja na planini Ozren. Da podsetimo, rekao je: “Neka ih tamo, barem znamo gde su.”
Međunarodna uprava nije reagovala ni kada su ubijena dvojica terorista sa bosanskohercegovačkim pasošima u Čečeniji. Komentar je bio lakonski (“moramo gledati u budućnost”), a ozbiljni analitičari su to shvatili kao dokaz o malom ruskom uticaju u BiH.
Istina, nakon 11. septembra u Njujorku, do sada je u BiH zabranjeno desetak humanitarnih organizacija islamskih zemalja jer postoji sumnja da su one u stvari samo maskirani centri za finansiranje Al kaide. Čak je pred sudom u Čikagu osuđen Enam Arnaut zbog svojih veza sa terorizmom, imao je BiH pasoš i jedno vreme je boravio i u Sarajevu kao direktor jedne od pomenutih humanitarnih organizacija.
Opet se vraćamo na anonimni visokopozicionirani izvor NIN-a koji tvrdi da BiH nije samo mesto gde se pere identitet već i “mesto gde se pere ogroman novac za terorističku mrežu”. Takve sumnje imaju i udruženje porodica poginulih u terorističkom napadu na Wujork. Oni su se obraćali i BiH vlastima i tražili određene provere, ali odgovora, koliko smo uspeli da saznamo, nije bilo. Zanimljivi podaci su se našli u američkom Kongresu još 2002. godine o dve BiH banke – “Vakufska banka” d.d. i “Depozitna banka” d.d. U tim papirima, NIN ih poseduje, među imenima akcionara ima i ljudi za koje je štampa tvrdila da su povezani sa terorističkim grupama. Šta je prava istina, ovdašnja javnost nije saznala.
Da problem mudžahedina, tajnih veza sa ekstremnim islamskim grupama, nije nimalo lak za oficijelno Sarajevo, svedoči i činjenica da su izabrali da prvi osuđeni za ratni zločin pred Sudom BiH, odeljenje za ratne zločine, bude jedan naturalizovani građanin BiH rodom iz Iraka. Dobio je pet godina jer je pomagao mudžahedinskoj formaciji u srednjoj Bosni da muči i ubija Hrvate. Kao da su želeli da pošalju poruku – eto, mi proganjamo te mudžahedine. Dogodilo se to sedam dana nakon posete direktora CIA.
Ta poseta je omekšala i neke državne činovnike, pa je štampa već provalila delove spiskova naturalizovanih građana BiH. Tako je banjalučki “Glas Srpske” objavio više stotina imena spornih državljanstava koja su dodeljena islamskim dobrovoljcima po osnovu pripadnosti Armiji BiH.
U švajcarskoj štampi (L'tan) već pišu o sumnjivim vezama Al kaide sa nekim tamošnjim fondovima i bankama i sve to opet dovode u vezu sa Bosnom i Hercegovinom. Oživljava ponovo i priča o beloj Al kaidi – o evropskim muslimanima koji su prošli kampove za obuku i postali deo opasne mreže. Sad se govori i o naturalizovanim građanima BiH koji su stigli iz Raške, sa Kosova... Sve u svemu, dugo kontrolisana priča kao da se pomalo otima kontroli i preti da postane javna.
A za razumevanje svega možda još vredi ponoviti ko je sve zadužen za bezbednost u BiH. Najbrojniji je EUFOR, vojska Evropske unije koja je zamenila trupe Ujedinjenih nacija, zadužen za čuvanje mira. Na sarajevskom aerodromu smeštena je misija NATO-a. I oni nadgledaju bezbednost i reformišu domaće vojske. Na tuzlanskom aerodromu samostalno deluje misija američke vojske. Sami su rekli da ih BiH zanima pre svega kao bezbednosni problem. Tu su, naravno, i razne domaće policije i službe. Svi oni su javni deo priče o onim drugim koji se predstavljaju kao razni samostalni istraživači, humanitarci, borci za demokratiju da se i ne govori. Pitaju štošta, zapisuju sve.
Domaća javnost o svemu više nagađa nego što zna. Informacije su na parče i strogo kontrolisane. Hoće li nešto promeniti poseta direktora CIA? Za Ameriku verovatno, za BiH teško, glasi jedan domaći komentar ovih dana. Ukoliko bi bilo drugačije, sledi objašnjenje, pali bi mnogi stereotipi o BiH, koji su ipak uhvatili korena pre svega u zapadnom javnom mnjenju. A to mnogima ne odgovara.
Radikalna ambasadorka
U vreme boravka direktora CIA u Sarajevu, republikanski kongresmen iz Arizone Trent Franks oštro je napao Stejt department zbog davanja agremana novoimenovanoj ambasadorki BiH u SAD Biseri Turković. Trent je obelodanio svoj tajni višemesečni dijalog sa Stejt departmentom po kojem je zamoljen da ne osporava Turkovićevu dok BiH ne pošalje svoje trupe u Irak. Trupe su već poslate i on je odlučio da progovori na zasedanju Kongresa. Tvrdi da je Turkovićeva u Stranci demokratske akcije, a da je ta stranka u dubokoj vezi sa Al kaidom. Dalje, on tvrdi da je Turkovićeva bila ambasador BiH u Zagrebu u vreme rata kada su preko te ambasade stizali islamski dobrovoljci, ali i iransko i drugo ilegalno naoružanje. Kongresmen je nabrojao i neka imena najtraženijih terorista na planeti. Reč je o partijskom drugu predsednika Buša i, tvrdi se, bliskom čoveku direktora CIA.
Odgovor u Sarajevu na ove reči u američkom Kongresu bio je hitar. Štampa je uglavnom Trenta okarakterisala kao srpskog lobistu, dok je Sulejman Tihić odbacio te navode rečima: “Stranka demokratske akcije je najozbiljniji partner Amerike u BiH i to oni znaju.” Različito se tumače ove Tihićeve reči – od toga da je “pripretio jer ni Amerika nije nevina u dovođenju mudžahedina na prostor BiH”, do toga da se ponudio kao saveznik u razbijanju mreže Al kaide i onih koji tvrde da je sadašnji bošnjački politički establišment u stvari postigao dil da odigraju ulogu “dubokog grla”, kako u BiH, tako i još nekim zemljama u razbijanju Al kaide.
http://www.nin.co.yu/index.php?s=free&a ... =6&id=4386
Direktor CIA podelio zadatke
Hoće li nešto promeniti poseta Portera Gosa Bosni i Hercegovini? Za Ameriku verovatno, za BiH teško. Ukoliko bi bilo drugačije, pali bi mnogi stereotipi
Kao što i priliči šefu najmoćnije tajne policije – niko ga nije video, ali svi znaju da je bio u Sarajevu. Reč je, naravno, o direktoru američke CIA Porteru Gosu, ovde još poznatom iz vremena kada je kao američki kongresmen upozoravao da će Al kaida premestiti svoje baze sa Bliskog istoka u Evropu. Još tada se spekulisalo da je on pre svega mislio na Bosnu i Hercegovinu.
I, logično, svi ovde veruju da je došao da proveri ta svoja predviđanja. Visokopozicionirani izvor NIN-a u bezbednosnim strukturama BiH tvrdi – ne samo da proveri, već je čovek doneo i dokaze, a onda i podelio zadatke kako međunarodnoj upravi, tako i domaćim obaveštajno-bezbednosnim službama.
Šereti su se odmah setili onog starog predratnog štosa: ako je hiljaditi deo grama miligram, onda je hiljaditi deo CIA – milicija. I, eto, došlo vreme da se vidi šta može taj “hiljaditi deo CIA”. Za šegačenje, međutim, vreme nije. Već predugo i međunarodna uprava i oficijelno Sarajevo pod kontrolom drže priču o mudžahedinskim formacijama i islamskim dobrovoljcima iz vremena rata. I izgleda da je došlo vreme da se barem delimično skine misterija sa priče. Na to upućuje i dramaturgija pre i posle posete Portera Gosa.
Neposredno posle nje, Ministarstvo bezbednosti Saudijske Arabije (veruje se da je pod velikom američkom kontrolom) objavilo je listu 36 najtraženijih terorista pripadnika Al kaide. Odmah je utvrđeno da najmanje dvojica imaju državljanstvo BiH – šef te saudijske grupe Junuz Muhamed al Hajari i Zaid Sad al Šamari. Ovog prvog, dva dana nakon objavljivanja poternice, prema agencijskim vestima, saudijske službe bezbednosti su ubile prilikom pokušaja hapšenja. Saudijska poternica je u BiH ponovo oživela temu o naturalizovanim građanima BiH iz islamskih zemalja.
Ministarstvo civilnih poslova u Savetu ministara BiH pritisnuto ovim vestima za sada je priznalo da je ovo državljanstvo dobilo nešto više od 900 ljudi i to, uglavnom, na osnovu toga što su bili pripadnici Armije BiH. Mediji, međutim, veruju da podatak Ministarstva civilnih poslova treba uzeti s velikom rezervom i iznose podatke o mnogo većem broju naturalizovanih građana BiH koji su delom ostali ovde, a delom se raspršili po celom svetu.
Izvor NIN-a o kojem je bilo reč upozorava na oprez prilikom navođenja imena: “Tu se radi o višestrukom pranju identiteta, jednostavno se ne zna za mnoge ni gde su rođeni, ni kako su se ranije zvali, sve je to vrlo, vrlo komplikovano.”
Bilo kako bilo, taj ubijeni šef saudijskog dela Al kaide, koji je posedovao BiH pasoš, borio se u Četvrtoj brigadi Armije BiH u Konjicu, utvrdila je štampa i još pronašla njegovog komandanta koji je danas imam sarajevske džamije “Kralj Fahd” i koji ima samo reči hvale za svog bivšeg saborca. Kako je bio oženjen Bošnjakinjom, pronađen je i njegov tast – Jusuf Alić iz sela Homolje kod Konjica, koji tvrdi da je zeta znao pod drugim imenom.
O ovom primeru toliko opširno jer je samo jedan u nizu. On, između ostalog, demistifikuje i ulogu međunarodne uprave u BiH. Tako samo mesec dana ranije, kada je direktor policije MUP-a Republike Srpske Dragomir Andan izneo podatke o mreži Al kaide u BiH (NIN je o tome pisao), Pedi Ešdaun ga je naterao da uputi javno pismeno izvinjenje javnosti BiH. Nešto slično uradio je i sveprisutni Žak Klajn kada je 1996. godine grupa mudžahedina okupirala srpsko selo Bočinja na planini Ozren. Da podsetimo, rekao je: “Neka ih tamo, barem znamo gde su.”
Međunarodna uprava nije reagovala ni kada su ubijena dvojica terorista sa bosanskohercegovačkim pasošima u Čečeniji. Komentar je bio lakonski (“moramo gledati u budućnost”), a ozbiljni analitičari su to shvatili kao dokaz o malom ruskom uticaju u BiH.
Istina, nakon 11. septembra u Njujorku, do sada je u BiH zabranjeno desetak humanitarnih organizacija islamskih zemalja jer postoji sumnja da su one u stvari samo maskirani centri za finansiranje Al kaide. Čak je pred sudom u Čikagu osuđen Enam Arnaut zbog svojih veza sa terorizmom, imao je BiH pasoš i jedno vreme je boravio i u Sarajevu kao direktor jedne od pomenutih humanitarnih organizacija.
Opet se vraćamo na anonimni visokopozicionirani izvor NIN-a koji tvrdi da BiH nije samo mesto gde se pere identitet već i “mesto gde se pere ogroman novac za terorističku mrežu”. Takve sumnje imaju i udruženje porodica poginulih u terorističkom napadu na Wujork. Oni su se obraćali i BiH vlastima i tražili određene provere, ali odgovora, koliko smo uspeli da saznamo, nije bilo. Zanimljivi podaci su se našli u američkom Kongresu još 2002. godine o dve BiH banke – “Vakufska banka” d.d. i “Depozitna banka” d.d. U tim papirima, NIN ih poseduje, među imenima akcionara ima i ljudi za koje je štampa tvrdila da su povezani sa terorističkim grupama. Šta je prava istina, ovdašnja javnost nije saznala.
Da problem mudžahedina, tajnih veza sa ekstremnim islamskim grupama, nije nimalo lak za oficijelno Sarajevo, svedoči i činjenica da su izabrali da prvi osuđeni za ratni zločin pred Sudom BiH, odeljenje za ratne zločine, bude jedan naturalizovani građanin BiH rodom iz Iraka. Dobio je pet godina jer je pomagao mudžahedinskoj formaciji u srednjoj Bosni da muči i ubija Hrvate. Kao da su želeli da pošalju poruku – eto, mi proganjamo te mudžahedine. Dogodilo se to sedam dana nakon posete direktora CIA.
Ta poseta je omekšala i neke državne činovnike, pa je štampa već provalila delove spiskova naturalizovanih građana BiH. Tako je banjalučki “Glas Srpske” objavio više stotina imena spornih državljanstava koja su dodeljena islamskim dobrovoljcima po osnovu pripadnosti Armiji BiH.
U švajcarskoj štampi (L'tan) već pišu o sumnjivim vezama Al kaide sa nekim tamošnjim fondovima i bankama i sve to opet dovode u vezu sa Bosnom i Hercegovinom. Oživljava ponovo i priča o beloj Al kaidi – o evropskim muslimanima koji su prošli kampove za obuku i postali deo opasne mreže. Sad se govori i o naturalizovanim građanima BiH koji su stigli iz Raške, sa Kosova... Sve u svemu, dugo kontrolisana priča kao da se pomalo otima kontroli i preti da postane javna.
A za razumevanje svega možda još vredi ponoviti ko je sve zadužen za bezbednost u BiH. Najbrojniji je EUFOR, vojska Evropske unije koja je zamenila trupe Ujedinjenih nacija, zadužen za čuvanje mira. Na sarajevskom aerodromu smeštena je misija NATO-a. I oni nadgledaju bezbednost i reformišu domaće vojske. Na tuzlanskom aerodromu samostalno deluje misija američke vojske. Sami su rekli da ih BiH zanima pre svega kao bezbednosni problem. Tu su, naravno, i razne domaće policije i službe. Svi oni su javni deo priče o onim drugim koji se predstavljaju kao razni samostalni istraživači, humanitarci, borci za demokratiju da se i ne govori. Pitaju štošta, zapisuju sve.
Domaća javnost o svemu više nagađa nego što zna. Informacije su na parče i strogo kontrolisane. Hoće li nešto promeniti poseta direktora CIA? Za Ameriku verovatno, za BiH teško, glasi jedan domaći komentar ovih dana. Ukoliko bi bilo drugačije, sledi objašnjenje, pali bi mnogi stereotipi o BiH, koji su ipak uhvatili korena pre svega u zapadnom javnom mnjenju. A to mnogima ne odgovara.
Radikalna ambasadorka
U vreme boravka direktora CIA u Sarajevu, republikanski kongresmen iz Arizone Trent Franks oštro je napao Stejt department zbog davanja agremana novoimenovanoj ambasadorki BiH u SAD Biseri Turković. Trent je obelodanio svoj tajni višemesečni dijalog sa Stejt departmentom po kojem je zamoljen da ne osporava Turkovićevu dok BiH ne pošalje svoje trupe u Irak. Trupe su već poslate i on je odlučio da progovori na zasedanju Kongresa. Tvrdi da je Turkovićeva u Stranci demokratske akcije, a da je ta stranka u dubokoj vezi sa Al kaidom. Dalje, on tvrdi da je Turkovićeva bila ambasador BiH u Zagrebu u vreme rata kada su preko te ambasade stizali islamski dobrovoljci, ali i iransko i drugo ilegalno naoružanje. Kongresmen je nabrojao i neka imena najtraženijih terorista na planeti. Reč je o partijskom drugu predsednika Buša i, tvrdi se, bliskom čoveku direktora CIA.
Odgovor u Sarajevu na ove reči u američkom Kongresu bio je hitar. Štampa je uglavnom Trenta okarakterisala kao srpskog lobistu, dok je Sulejman Tihić odbacio te navode rečima: “Stranka demokratske akcije je najozbiljniji partner Amerike u BiH i to oni znaju.” Različito se tumače ove Tihićeve reči – od toga da je “pripretio jer ni Amerika nije nevina u dovođenju mudžahedina na prostor BiH”, do toga da se ponudio kao saveznik u razbijanju mreže Al kaide i onih koji tvrde da je sadašnji bošnjački politički establišment u stvari postigao dil da odigraju ulogu “dubokog grla”, kako u BiH, tako i još nekim zemljama u razbijanju Al kaide.
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Settler
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#8
Leakey: EUFOR nema informacija o kampovima za obuku terorista u BiH
Zapovjednik Snaga Europske unije (EUFOR) general David Leakey izjavio je danas u bazi Butmir da EUFOR nema informacija o tome da u BiH postoje kampovi za obuku terorista. Zamoljen da prokomentira pisanje današnjih "Nezavisnih novina" da "Al Qaida obučava teroriste u BiH", Leakey je rekao:
"Danas u BiH nema nikakvih kampova za obuku terorista za koje mi znamo i koje bi smo zatvorili. Da ih ima, mi bismo ih odmah zatvorili u suradnji sa bh. vlastima, kao što smo radili u prošlosti."
Nakon rata je bilo kampova koje su organizirali i vodili stranci i gdje se vršila takva vrsta obuke, ali od tada do danas su ti kampovi raspušteni. Sve policijske snage i sve obavještajne službe traže indikacije o postojanju takvih kampova za obuku, kazao je on, dodajući da ako bilo tko u BiH zna za terorističke kampove, trebao bi to reći policiji ili tužiteljstvu koji bi djelovali na osnovu tih informacija.
Odgovarajući na pitanje zašto je onda BiH još uvijek označena kao sjedište terorista, Leakey je rekao da se BiH ne bi trebala brinuti zbog takvih priča. Na primjer, Velika Britanija je imala kampove za obuku terorista, a takvi kampovi su bili i u mnogo drugih država u Europi.
"Važna je stvar imati odgovarajuće policijske snage i obavještajne službe koje mogu raditi na tome. Zato je restrukturiranje policije u BiH od tolike važnosti. Zato međunarodna zajednica ohrabruje BiH da uspostavi efikasnije policijske snage i strukturu", naglasio je on.
Leakey je, također, ocijenio da je prijetnja koju predstavljaju terorističke aktivnosti globalna i da ne postoji isključivo u ovoj zemlji, posebno zato što terorističke organizacije nikad dugo ne baziraju svoje operacije na jednom mjestu zbog rizika od otkrivanja.
(Fena)
Zapovjednik Snaga Europske unije (EUFOR) general David Leakey izjavio je danas u bazi Butmir da EUFOR nema informacija o tome da u BiH postoje kampovi za obuku terorista. Zamoljen da prokomentira pisanje današnjih "Nezavisnih novina" da "Al Qaida obučava teroriste u BiH", Leakey je rekao:
"Danas u BiH nema nikakvih kampova za obuku terorista za koje mi znamo i koje bi smo zatvorili. Da ih ima, mi bismo ih odmah zatvorili u suradnji sa bh. vlastima, kao što smo radili u prošlosti."
Nakon rata je bilo kampova koje su organizirali i vodili stranci i gdje se vršila takva vrsta obuke, ali od tada do danas su ti kampovi raspušteni. Sve policijske snage i sve obavještajne službe traže indikacije o postojanju takvih kampova za obuku, kazao je on, dodajući da ako bilo tko u BiH zna za terorističke kampove, trebao bi to reći policiji ili tužiteljstvu koji bi djelovali na osnovu tih informacija.
Odgovarajući na pitanje zašto je onda BiH još uvijek označena kao sjedište terorista, Leakey je rekao da se BiH ne bi trebala brinuti zbog takvih priča. Na primjer, Velika Britanija je imala kampove za obuku terorista, a takvi kampovi su bili i u mnogo drugih država u Europi.
"Važna je stvar imati odgovarajuće policijske snage i obavještajne službe koje mogu raditi na tome. Zato je restrukturiranje policije u BiH od tolike važnosti. Zato međunarodna zajednica ohrabruje BiH da uspostavi efikasnije policijske snage i strukturu", naglasio je on.
Leakey je, također, ocijenio da je prijetnja koju predstavljaju terorističke aktivnosti globalna i da ne postoji isključivo u ovoj zemlji, posebno zato što terorističke organizacije nikad dugo ne baziraju svoje operacije na jednom mjestu zbog rizika od otkrivanja.
(Fena)
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Mujkan
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#9
http://www.nezavisne.com/dnevne/dogadja ... 005-01.php
Sajberkast njuz" objavio video-snimak terorističkog kampa u Bosni i Hercegovini
Obuka terorista u BiH
VAŠINGTON - Teroristi koji su ranije za cilj imali napade na SAD sada se nalaze u BiH, javila je agencija "Sajberkast njuz" (CNS) objavljujući, takođe, video-snimak za koji eksperti za terorizam kažu da prikazuje aktivan džihadski trenažni kamp u BiH.
Video-snimak prikazuje manevre koji se izvode vani, trening sa eksplozivom, fizički trening u nečemu što liči na fiskulturnu salu i vježbe za uzimanje talaca.
Ivan Kolman, ekspert za terorizam i pisac, rekao je za CNS da su glavni kampovi koji su korišteni tokom rata zatvoreni, ali da se pojavila druga taktika u vidu organizovanja kampova za mlade koji služe kao paravan. Kampove, kaže, uglavnom vode stariji mudžahedini sa vojnim iskustvom.
"Oni odvode mlade ljude u brda i tamo provode džihadski trening. Iako zvuči blesavo, oni su shvatili da je ovakvim kampovima teško ući u trag", tvrdi Kolman.
Kolman je rekao da je cilj terorista da stvore mrežu ćelija, a ne da formiraju stalni kamp koji bi davao ljude za borbene linije. Dodao je da "veoma mali broj Bosanaca to privlači".
Kristofer Braun, istraživač sa Hadson instituta, kazao je da su mnogi od tih kampova za obuku terorista veoma mobilni.
"Ćelije Al Kaide u Bosni su postavljene početkom devedesetih od strane Ajmana al Zavahrija, desne ruke Bin Ladena, koji je dva puta posjećivao BiH devedesetih godina", rekao je Braun.
CNS tvrdi da se teroristi, koji su poslije odsluženja kazne pušteni na slobodu, kreću prema BiH, gdje imaju pristup džihadskim kampovima za trening, oružju i ilegalnim islamskim "dobrotvornim fondovima".
"Osuđeni terorista Karim Said Atmani nedavno se vratio u Bosnu nakon što je pušten iz francuskog zatvora zbog 'dobrog ponašanja'", tvrdi Kolman.
Atmani je Marokanac povezan sa islamskom organizacijom GIA, odgovornom za otmicu aviona i postavljanje bombi u metro u Francuskoj.
Sigurnu luku u BiH, dodaje CNS, našao je i Abu el Maali, koji se kao i Atmani, borio u ratu u BiH. El Maali je kasnije bio optužen od strane francuskih vlasti za pokušaj krijumčarenja eksploziva 1998. godine egipatskoj terorističkoj grupi koja je planirala da uništi američke vojne objekte u Njemačkoj.
On je, takođe, bio optužen za predvođenje terorističkih ćelija u BiH, Pakistanu i Avganistanu.
Marko Atila Hoare, istraživač sa Katedre istorije pri Univerzitetu Kembridž, ocjenjuje da su priče o kampovima u BiH "preuveličane".
"Nijedan bosanski musliman nije bio uključen u terorističke akte. Al Kaida je pokušala i nije joj uspjelo da pretvori Bosnu u džihadsku bazu", kaže Hoare, dodajući da "blaga verzija islama u BiH nije pogodna za islamiste".
CNS navodi da je Islamska fondacija "Al Haramain", dobrotvorni fond za koji su SAD kazale da pomaže terorističke operacije, zatvorio svoje kancelarije u Bosni, ali da su oni nakon toga ponovo osnovani pod drugim imenom "Vazir". Nova organizacija je registrovana kao "udruženje za sport, kulturu i obrazovanje".
P. KLINCOV
Snimak napravljen u jesen 2004.
"Sajberkast" navodi da je video-snimak dobio od Gregorija Koplija, predsjednika Asocijacije za međunarodne strateške studije.
Kopli je rekao da je snimak napravljen prije jeseni 2004. godine, te da je prvi put prikazan u maju 2005. godine na sastanku vojnih zvaničnika u sklopu Globalnog strateškog foruma "Strategija 2005", koji je održan u Vašingtonu.
Sajberkast njuz" objavio video-snimak terorističkog kampa u Bosni i Hercegovini
Obuka terorista u BiH
VAŠINGTON - Teroristi koji su ranije za cilj imali napade na SAD sada se nalaze u BiH, javila je agencija "Sajberkast njuz" (CNS) objavljujući, takođe, video-snimak za koji eksperti za terorizam kažu da prikazuje aktivan džihadski trenažni kamp u BiH.
Video-snimak prikazuje manevre koji se izvode vani, trening sa eksplozivom, fizički trening u nečemu što liči na fiskulturnu salu i vježbe za uzimanje talaca.
Ivan Kolman, ekspert za terorizam i pisac, rekao je za CNS da su glavni kampovi koji su korišteni tokom rata zatvoreni, ali da se pojavila druga taktika u vidu organizovanja kampova za mlade koji služe kao paravan. Kampove, kaže, uglavnom vode stariji mudžahedini sa vojnim iskustvom.
"Oni odvode mlade ljude u brda i tamo provode džihadski trening. Iako zvuči blesavo, oni su shvatili da je ovakvim kampovima teško ući u trag", tvrdi Kolman.
Kolman je rekao da je cilj terorista da stvore mrežu ćelija, a ne da formiraju stalni kamp koji bi davao ljude za borbene linije. Dodao je da "veoma mali broj Bosanaca to privlači".
Kristofer Braun, istraživač sa Hadson instituta, kazao je da su mnogi od tih kampova za obuku terorista veoma mobilni.
"Ćelije Al Kaide u Bosni su postavljene početkom devedesetih od strane Ajmana al Zavahrija, desne ruke Bin Ladena, koji je dva puta posjećivao BiH devedesetih godina", rekao je Braun.
CNS tvrdi da se teroristi, koji su poslije odsluženja kazne pušteni na slobodu, kreću prema BiH, gdje imaju pristup džihadskim kampovima za trening, oružju i ilegalnim islamskim "dobrotvornim fondovima".
"Osuđeni terorista Karim Said Atmani nedavno se vratio u Bosnu nakon što je pušten iz francuskog zatvora zbog 'dobrog ponašanja'", tvrdi Kolman.
Atmani je Marokanac povezan sa islamskom organizacijom GIA, odgovornom za otmicu aviona i postavljanje bombi u metro u Francuskoj.
Sigurnu luku u BiH, dodaje CNS, našao je i Abu el Maali, koji se kao i Atmani, borio u ratu u BiH. El Maali je kasnije bio optužen od strane francuskih vlasti za pokušaj krijumčarenja eksploziva 1998. godine egipatskoj terorističkoj grupi koja je planirala da uništi američke vojne objekte u Njemačkoj.
On je, takođe, bio optužen za predvođenje terorističkih ćelija u BiH, Pakistanu i Avganistanu.
Marko Atila Hoare, istraživač sa Katedre istorije pri Univerzitetu Kembridž, ocjenjuje da su priče o kampovima u BiH "preuveličane".
"Nijedan bosanski musliman nije bio uključen u terorističke akte. Al Kaida je pokušala i nije joj uspjelo da pretvori Bosnu u džihadsku bazu", kaže Hoare, dodajući da "blaga verzija islama u BiH nije pogodna za islamiste".
CNS navodi da je Islamska fondacija "Al Haramain", dobrotvorni fond za koji su SAD kazale da pomaže terorističke operacije, zatvorio svoje kancelarije u Bosni, ali da su oni nakon toga ponovo osnovani pod drugim imenom "Vazir". Nova organizacija je registrovana kao "udruženje za sport, kulturu i obrazovanje".
P. KLINCOV
Snimak napravljen u jesen 2004.
"Sajberkast" navodi da je video-snimak dobio od Gregorija Koplija, predsjednika Asocijacije za međunarodne strateške studije.
Kopli je rekao da je snimak napravljen prije jeseni 2004. godine, te da je prvi put prikazan u maju 2005. godine na sastanku vojnih zvaničnika u sklopu Globalnog strateškog foruma "Strategija 2005", koji je održan u Vašingtonu.
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Mujkan
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 23/08/2005 14:09
#10
http://www.bhdani.com/default.asp?kat=t ... ekst_rb=15
Svijet: Policije u Španiji i Americi duže od decenije istraživale slanje mudžahedina u Bosnu i Hercegovinu i danas tvrde:
El-Mudžahid je bio Al-Ka'idina jedinica u BiH
Sudski proces koji se vodi u Španiji zbog terorističkog napada na Madrid 2004., nerijetko za temu ima BiH. No, bh. vlasti jednako ignoriraju sve tvrdnje da je cijela jedna jedinica Armije BiH bila zapravo ćelija Al-Ka'ide u ovoj zemlji
Španska veza: Bosna se u ovoj optužnici spominje 300 puta, a sama Zenica, kao sjedište jedinice El-Mudžahid u tom periodu, 19 puta. U optužnici su dati brojni dokazi nastali praćenjem ne samo telefonskih razgovora između ljudi u Zenici i Španiji i u drugim državama nego i podaci o bankarskim transakcijama
Svijet: Policije u Španiji i Americi duže od decenije istraživale slanje mudžahedina u Bosnu i Hercegovinu i danas tvrde:
El-Mudžahid je bio Al-Ka'idina jedinica u BiH
Sudski proces koji se vodi u Španiji zbog terorističkog napada na Madrid 2004., nerijetko za temu ima BiH. No, bh. vlasti jednako ignoriraju sve tvrdnje da je cijela jedna jedinica Armije BiH bila zapravo ćelija Al-Ka'ide u ovoj zemlji
Španska veza: Bosna se u ovoj optužnici spominje 300 puta, a sama Zenica, kao sjedište jedinice El-Mudžahid u tom periodu, 19 puta. U optužnici su dati brojni dokazi nastali praćenjem ne samo telefonskih razgovora između ljudi u Zenici i Španiji i u drugim državama nego i podaci o bankarskim transakcijama
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Drvosjeca iz Dejcica
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- Location: Sarajevo
#11
Umjesto COPY&PASTE red bi bio da se drzis teme i nemoj bombardovati diskusiju...Mujkan wrote: http://www.nin.co.yu/index.php?s=free&a ... =6&id=4386
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E. Jaganjac
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#17
http://www.fena.ba/foto_pregled.html?id=2175
CNS je cionisticki medij. Snimak je mogao biti snimak treninga bilo koje specijalne policije na svijetu, pa cak i americke. Apsolutno nigdje na snimku nema ni jednog obiljezja islama (a i da ima, kao da americki vojnici ne nose krst). Cionisti su naivno ubacili arapsku muziku sto je stvarno smijesno, od kada se bilo ko u Bosni "hrani" arapskom muzikom.
Ja sam editoru CNS-a poslao e-mail nazivajuci ga lazovom i cionistom. rekao sam mu da vec ako traga za teroristima najgore vrste u Bosni neka se potrudi da prikupi koju informaciju o Karadzicu i Mladicu.
CNS je cionisticki medij. Snimak je mogao biti snimak treninga bilo koje specijalne policije na svijetu, pa cak i americke. Apsolutno nigdje na snimku nema ni jednog obiljezja islama (a i da ima, kao da americki vojnici ne nose krst). Cionisti su naivno ubacili arapsku muziku sto je stvarno smijesno, od kada se bilo ko u Bosni "hrani" arapskom muzikom.
Ja sam editoru CNS-a poslao e-mail nazivajuci ga lazovom i cionistom. rekao sam mu da vec ako traga za teroristima najgore vrste u Bosni neka se potrudi da prikupi koju informaciju o Karadzicu i Mladicu.
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SD-6
- Posts: 750
- Joined: 20/08/2004 01:20
#18
"Lazemo zbog ljubavi,lažemo zbog covecnosti,lazemo zbog poštenja.Lazemo zbog slobode.Laž je vid našeg patriotizma,i potvrda naše urodjene inteligencije.Lazemo stvaralacki,mastovito,inventivno"
Dobrica Ćosić
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nebeski narod on the road again...
skupila diaspora priloge za finansiranje nove bljuvotine
Nezavisne Novine
Dobrica Ćosić
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nebeski narod on the road again...
skupila diaspora priloge za finansiranje nove bljuvotine
Nezavisne Novine
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List
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#19
Nezavisne Novine su se vec prikladno izofirale sa pisanjem o slucaju Alijagic-Trebinje. A i ranije......
Bojim se da u BiH nema niti jedan posten medij.
Svi nekako naginju ka necemu. Mada nisu svi tako radikalni kao Slobodna Bosna. Ali, niti jedan medij nije uvijek objektivan.
Ali ni citaoci. Sjecam se kako su se neki sjetili da je Pecanin Sandzo nakon naslovnice "JEBO ALIJU".
Takvima je Senad Avdic zakletva. A Senad je ocaj "zivi".
Bojim se da u BiH nema niti jedan posten medij.
Svi nekako naginju ka necemu. Mada nisu svi tako radikalni kao Slobodna Bosna. Ali, niti jedan medij nije uvijek objektivan.
Ali ni citaoci. Sjecam se kako su se neki sjetili da je Pecanin Sandzo nakon naslovnice "JEBO ALIJU".
Takvima je Senad Avdic zakletva. A Senad je ocaj "zivi".
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#20
Evo sta sam ja poslao editoru i autoru:
Dear Mr. Editor and Mrs. Gossett,
I've read your article Jihad Activity Haunts Bosnia and I am not surprised Mr. Copley, an obvious clown that represents some "no respect organization" that nobody ever heard of, talks bad about Bosnia. He did it before and he continues to do the same. (Just wait another few months and you will see another one, completely unrelated to this one). I would bet my life that he is paid by the Serbian lobby, who managed to bribe even the UN commander General Mackenzie.
"While it is difficult to ascertain exactly how much has been directed towards payment for speakers and journalists, the SUC and Serbnet have set up a special fund for this purpose. Based on former UN General Lewis MacKenzie's own admission which was later corroborated by Serbnet -- that he was receiving over $15,000 per speaking engagement -- the amount spent on MacKenzie represents more than what the SUC is paying to PR firms such as Manatos and Manatos, Inc." reference: http://www.freeserbia.net/Documents/Lobby.html
I 've also read your "terrorist expert" Dusko Trifunovic, a Serb from University of Belgrade, a country who wanted to destroy Bosnia, a country who committed the biggest and bloodiest genocide after the Second World War, and the same country that for the past 10 years has been hiding and protecting two biggest terrorist in the World: Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic. .
I also do not believe Mr. Trifunovic held any position in Bosnian Government. My search to find any of the articles Mr. Trifunovic a.k.a. "the terrorist expert" wrote about Mladic and Karadzic, one of the best-known terrorists in today's World produced no results. Obviously, this is not adequate work from the so called "terrorist expert".
Now let's review the list of websites Mr. Copley that publishes articles written by Mr. Copley (Believe me this list is quite interesting):
The first website is named after Slobodan Milosevic, the Balkan Butcher, now in the Hague:
http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/dfad070504.htm
Ashdown, as Predicted, Launches First Stage of Move to Destroy Republica Srpska State
Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily - July 05, 2004, Analysis. By Gregory R. Copley, Editor, GIS.
In this article, Mr. Copley, obviously paid well by the serbian lobby, is attacking Mr. Ashdown, the high representative of Bosnia, and defending a genocidal entity known as "republic of srpska", a part of Bosnia thoroughly cleaned from other ethnic groups by the Serb fascists using the genocide and terror. Interestingly, this article has nothing to do with terrorism, except the Serbian one which he so hardly defends. And yes, he calls the Serbian part of Bosnia "a state" which is not only ridiculous but also very funny. He wishes.
In fact, I am not going to bother searching the evidence for you. If you had proper journalist ethics, you could have combined 2 simple keywords such as "Copley" and "Bosnia" and your google or yahoo search would get you a bunch of articles that had nothing to do with terrorism but with obvious Serbian propaganda.
As far as the video goes, such highly edited film could be made anywhere and by anyone. Nowhere in this video we can see any proof that this film was shot in Bosnia, unless the so called "experts" can distinguish Bosnian tree and grass from the trees in other parts of the World. (Who knows maybe they are experts in the science of botany as well). I hope you do not expect that, now that everybody could see this edited movie, we should just believe you or Mr. Couply? Yeah right...
As I've already said, some other pro-Serbian websites with similar articles could be easily found by typing simple keywords in any search engine.
For example, in this article published by a Serbian website, Mr. Copley states that the genocide in Srebrenica did not even happen, and that all those killed are in fact alive (wonder what that has to do with terrorism???):
"Who can forget the image of Madeleine Albright frantically waving a
CIA satellite photo of the soccer field showing "proof positive" where 7,000
men and boys alleged to have been killed by Serbs in Srebrenica were said to
be buried? Twenty-two renowned journalists investigated the site and came
away empty handed. Furthermore, in his analysis of 18 September 2003 titled,
"Srebrenica Casualty Numbers Challenged by Experts as Politicized and
Ethnically Divisive," Gregory R. Copley, Director of Strategic Studies,
wrote: "On the eve of the dedication of a monument to Muslims killed at
Srebrenica, in Bosnia-Herzegovina, in 1995, a group which includes a former
UN official, intelligence experts, and journalists, released a statement
challenging the alleged casualty number of 7,000 victims as 'vastly inflated
and unsupported by evidence'."
I guess each year they burry plastic dolls at Potochari Memorial Center near Srebrenica. So far more than 2,000 people were buried and 4,000 are waiting to be identified by DNA analysis in Tuzla.
Being a medical doctor myself and graduating from a well-known medical school in NYC, where the evidence-based medicine is practiced daily, I cannot imagine a journalist writing a story without any evidence to support it (please the fake video do not count and at the end, do not prove anything). Your article makes absolutely no sense which is the exact point made by the NATO commander in Bosnia, who dismissed your lies immediately.
Please rest ashsured that your credibility depends on good and bad articles, the good ones being the ones that have some fact supporting your claims and at least make some sense. This one was so bad that it made me laugh. If Bosnia is so full of terrorists, why did we fail to see any casualties within the NATO forces, including Americans??? Why the NATO, with all of their abilities and techniques including the satellites, plain clothes CIA agents and other intelligence, never spotted any of these groups? Instead they have to wait for information provided by few clowns paid by the Serbian lobby, who never even visited Bosnia. You should really rethink your journalist ethics when writing a story like this.
At the end, I will leave you with a study done by Brad K. Blitz at al.:The Serbian Unity Congress and the Serbian Lobby:A Study of Contemporary Revisionism and Denial about Serbian lobby in the USA done at Stanford University.
http://www.freeserbia.net/Documents/Lobby.html
Sincerely,
xxxxxx. M.D.
New York City, NY
Dear Mr. Editor and Mrs. Gossett,
I've read your article Jihad Activity Haunts Bosnia and I am not surprised Mr. Copley, an obvious clown that represents some "no respect organization" that nobody ever heard of, talks bad about Bosnia. He did it before and he continues to do the same. (Just wait another few months and you will see another one, completely unrelated to this one). I would bet my life that he is paid by the Serbian lobby, who managed to bribe even the UN commander General Mackenzie.
"While it is difficult to ascertain exactly how much has been directed towards payment for speakers and journalists, the SUC and Serbnet have set up a special fund for this purpose. Based on former UN General Lewis MacKenzie's own admission which was later corroborated by Serbnet -- that he was receiving over $15,000 per speaking engagement -- the amount spent on MacKenzie represents more than what the SUC is paying to PR firms such as Manatos and Manatos, Inc." reference: http://www.freeserbia.net/Documents/Lobby.html
I 've also read your "terrorist expert" Dusko Trifunovic, a Serb from University of Belgrade, a country who wanted to destroy Bosnia, a country who committed the biggest and bloodiest genocide after the Second World War, and the same country that for the past 10 years has been hiding and protecting two biggest terrorist in the World: Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic. .
I also do not believe Mr. Trifunovic held any position in Bosnian Government. My search to find any of the articles Mr. Trifunovic a.k.a. "the terrorist expert" wrote about Mladic and Karadzic, one of the best-known terrorists in today's World produced no results. Obviously, this is not adequate work from the so called "terrorist expert".
Now let's review the list of websites Mr. Copley that publishes articles written by Mr. Copley (Believe me this list is quite interesting):
The first website is named after Slobodan Milosevic, the Balkan Butcher, now in the Hague:
http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/dfad070504.htm
Ashdown, as Predicted, Launches First Stage of Move to Destroy Republica Srpska State
Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily - July 05, 2004, Analysis. By Gregory R. Copley, Editor, GIS.
In this article, Mr. Copley, obviously paid well by the serbian lobby, is attacking Mr. Ashdown, the high representative of Bosnia, and defending a genocidal entity known as "republic of srpska", a part of Bosnia thoroughly cleaned from other ethnic groups by the Serb fascists using the genocide and terror. Interestingly, this article has nothing to do with terrorism, except the Serbian one which he so hardly defends. And yes, he calls the Serbian part of Bosnia "a state" which is not only ridiculous but also very funny. He wishes.
In fact, I am not going to bother searching the evidence for you. If you had proper journalist ethics, you could have combined 2 simple keywords such as "Copley" and "Bosnia" and your google or yahoo search would get you a bunch of articles that had nothing to do with terrorism but with obvious Serbian propaganda.
As far as the video goes, such highly edited film could be made anywhere and by anyone. Nowhere in this video we can see any proof that this film was shot in Bosnia, unless the so called "experts" can distinguish Bosnian tree and grass from the trees in other parts of the World. (Who knows maybe they are experts in the science of botany as well). I hope you do not expect that, now that everybody could see this edited movie, we should just believe you or Mr. Couply? Yeah right...
As I've already said, some other pro-Serbian websites with similar articles could be easily found by typing simple keywords in any search engine.
For example, in this article published by a Serbian website, Mr. Copley states that the genocide in Srebrenica did not even happen, and that all those killed are in fact alive (wonder what that has to do with terrorism???):
"Who can forget the image of Madeleine Albright frantically waving a
CIA satellite photo of the soccer field showing "proof positive" where 7,000
men and boys alleged to have been killed by Serbs in Srebrenica were said to
be buried? Twenty-two renowned journalists investigated the site and came
away empty handed. Furthermore, in his analysis of 18 September 2003 titled,
"Srebrenica Casualty Numbers Challenged by Experts as Politicized and
Ethnically Divisive," Gregory R. Copley, Director of Strategic Studies,
wrote: "On the eve of the dedication of a monument to Muslims killed at
Srebrenica, in Bosnia-Herzegovina, in 1995, a group which includes a former
UN official, intelligence experts, and journalists, released a statement
challenging the alleged casualty number of 7,000 victims as 'vastly inflated
and unsupported by evidence'."
I guess each year they burry plastic dolls at Potochari Memorial Center near Srebrenica. So far more than 2,000 people were buried and 4,000 are waiting to be identified by DNA analysis in Tuzla.
Being a medical doctor myself and graduating from a well-known medical school in NYC, where the evidence-based medicine is practiced daily, I cannot imagine a journalist writing a story without any evidence to support it (please the fake video do not count and at the end, do not prove anything). Your article makes absolutely no sense which is the exact point made by the NATO commander in Bosnia, who dismissed your lies immediately.
Please rest ashsured that your credibility depends on good and bad articles, the good ones being the ones that have some fact supporting your claims and at least make some sense. This one was so bad that it made me laugh. If Bosnia is so full of terrorists, why did we fail to see any casualties within the NATO forces, including Americans??? Why the NATO, with all of their abilities and techniques including the satellites, plain clothes CIA agents and other intelligence, never spotted any of these groups? Instead they have to wait for information provided by few clowns paid by the Serbian lobby, who never even visited Bosnia. You should really rethink your journalist ethics when writing a story like this.
At the end, I will leave you with a study done by Brad K. Blitz at al.:The Serbian Unity Congress and the Serbian Lobby:A Study of Contemporary Revisionism and Denial about Serbian lobby in the USA done at Stanford University.
http://www.freeserbia.net/Documents/Lobby.html
Sincerely,
xxxxxx. M.D.
New York City, NY
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#21
Evo odgovor od ove aspide:
Yossef Bodansky also supports the contention of jihadist training camps in Bosnia. He is director of research for the International Strategic Studies Association which you mention as a "no respect organization that nobody ever heard of." He is also a senior editor for their Defense and Foreign Affairs publications. From 1988 on he served as director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare for the U.S. House of Representatives. He recently resigned in order to write his book "The Secret History of the Iraq War." In addition, Bodansky has served as a consultant on terrorism for the U.S. government and other organizations. He is quoted as an authority on terrorism in thousands of news articles. He also wrote "Bin Laden: The Man who Declared War on America" among other books.
Evan Kohlmann is the main source of this article. He recently testified as an expert witness on behalf of international prosecutors before the Bosnian supreme court in the case of Abduladhim Maktouf (an Iraqi living in Bosnia), discussing the role of the foreign mujahideen in Bosnia. Maktouf was subsequently convicted. Apparently those prosecutors believe Kohlmann has an expertise you do not have, or they would have invited you to testify before the Bosnian supreme court as an expert witness.
You are also incorrect about Darko Trifunović . He has been involved in government work as a diplomat in the foreign service of Bosnia & Herzegovina.
The purpose of this article was not to rehash the Bosnian-Serbian conflict or to discuss genocide, census and other related matters.
Yossef Bodansky also supports the contention of jihadist training camps in Bosnia. He is director of research for the International Strategic Studies Association which you mention as a "no respect organization that nobody ever heard of." He is also a senior editor for their Defense and Foreign Affairs publications. From 1988 on he served as director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare for the U.S. House of Representatives. He recently resigned in order to write his book "The Secret History of the Iraq War." In addition, Bodansky has served as a consultant on terrorism for the U.S. government and other organizations. He is quoted as an authority on terrorism in thousands of news articles. He also wrote "Bin Laden: The Man who Declared War on America" among other books.
Evan Kohlmann is the main source of this article. He recently testified as an expert witness on behalf of international prosecutors before the Bosnian supreme court in the case of Abduladhim Maktouf (an Iraqi living in Bosnia), discussing the role of the foreign mujahideen in Bosnia. Maktouf was subsequently convicted. Apparently those prosecutors believe Kohlmann has an expertise you do not have, or they would have invited you to testify before the Bosnian supreme court as an expert witness.
You are also incorrect about Darko Trifunović . He has been involved in government work as a diplomat in the foreign service of Bosnia & Herzegovina.
The purpose of this article was not to rehash the Bosnian-Serbian conflict or to discuss genocide, census and other related matters.
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#22
Moj odgovor:
Sherrie,
Dusko Trifunovic, even if he was involved as a diplomat, was posted there by the serbian nationalists. We all know very well how much Serbs like Bosnia and Herzegovina, don't we? Most of diplomats ( well close to 100%) posted to the bosnian government by the Serbian side are working on destruction of Bosnia. This is a well-known fact. Just ask Peddy Ashdown.
http://www.nato.int/sfor/media/2003/ms031016.htm
"Ministry of Foreign Affairs: "Statements about links to al-Qaida are irrational"
"The removed First Secretary of the BiH Mission to the UN, Darko Trifunovic, stated for Novi Reporter magazine that BiH diplomats of Bosniac and Croat nationality working in the mission in New York had been linked to al-Qaida terrorist network. He also stated that the contacts between al-Qaida and BiH diplomats in the New York mission would resume as long as the BiH Ambassador to the UN was Mirza Kusljugic. The BiH Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson, Miranda Sidran, stated that the allegations stated by Trifunovic were absolutely irrational. "BiH diplomats are servants of BiH regardless to their nationality. They represent the interests of our country. It is obvious that Trifunovic apparently lives in different world," stated Ms. Sidran. As a reminder, Dusko Trifunovic was deprived of his BiH diplomatic passport in 2002 because of his anti-Bosnian activities and deterioration of the reputation of BiH. The BiH Ministry of Foreign Affairs notified all diplomatic missions and embassies in Sarajevo about it because Trifunovic rejected to return his passport to the ministry. "
Interestingly, there is a person with the same name blaming Bosnia for 9/11 on different forums:
LINKS BETWEEN 9/11 (MUHAMAED ATTA) AND THE AL-QAEDA NETWORK IN BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA :http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1182973/posts
Bodanski writes for the same website (freerepublic.com)
Again, Darko Trifunovic, cited by the http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/srna071404.htm web site. Sure, we can all trust Darko. We all know that he is an "expert", right? Expert in destroying Bosnia for sure!!!
This "expert" writes in 2003 that NATO is going to get attacked in Bosnia. It is already the end of 2005 and we did not have a single attack against NATO forces in Bosnia in 10 years. (BOSNIAN AL-QA'IDAH MEMBERS PLAN ATTACKS ON NATO - TERRORISM EXPERT
SRNA - October 17, 2003 http://emperor.vwh.net/reports/news/srna101703.htm
It is funny that SRNA, the bosnian Serb news agency that made up some the worst lies during the war, is all over these articles. One of the lies of this agency during the war was that "Muslims feed lions in the Sarajevo Zoo with serbian children".
Want more about Dusko Trifunovic? Here is a web page of the Serbian unity congress: http://news.suc.org/bydate/2004/July_19/5.html. Expert names some Al-Qa'idah members present in Bosnia, SRNA, July 19, 2004
And Sherrie, yes I found your article "Church Desecration Video Serves as Jihad Fund-Raiser".
You introduced Dusko Trifunovic as "deputy director of the Center for Security and Investigation of Terrorism at the Belgrade Institute for Political Studies", who provided Cybercast News Service with a copy of the video during his recent visit to Washington, D.C. http://irnnews.com/news.asp?action=detail&article=7931 . Great independant source of info Sherrie, isn't it?
Here is his website where it clearly says that Dusko currently works for Serbia and Montenegro government, an aggressor country responsible for 200,000 dead in Bosnia: http://www.fco.bg.ac.yu/trifunovic%20bio_engl.htm. All Serbs look for a good excuse that would defend their genocidal actions during Bosnian war. BTW, he looks very ugly. You can tell him that when you meet him for preparation of a new article.
Now this is really sad! How can you call yourself a journalist? A terrorist expert from Belgrade, the capital city of a country which destroyed Bosnia during the war, is your reliable source??? He provided you with the video??? It is quite interesting that in every article your write, you always mention the same "experts": Evan F. Kohlmann, Dusko Trifunovic and Yossef Bodansky. Even a little kid would realize that you are just working toward your cause and have no intention to show the truth. BTW, Serbian side destroyed over 1,000 mosques during the war. Only in my city (Banja Luka), they destroyed 16 mosques, two of which were protected by the UNESCO. Did you write any articles about that???
It is pretty obvious that you are involved in the Serbian propaganda war. I am not sure if you get any monetary gain by the Serbian lobby, but now I at least know that you have some interest in being on the Serbian side, unless you show me some of your articles that discuss numerous Serbian war crimes that were characterized as genocide by the Hague tribunal.
As far as Mr. Bodansky goes, it is enough to read one of his articles to see his intentions. I will give just few examples:
Defence and Foreign Affair Strategic Policies November - December page: 13,14,15 http://www.balkanpeace.org/cib/bac/bac04.html
The Balkans Conflict
Turning Point In Brcko By Yossef Bodansky
"The long-term impact of the Clinton-Islamist coalition in Bosnia-Herzegovina is now showing. The US has ensured that the Bosnian Muslim army is ready to begin attacking and eliminating the remaining Serb areas of Bosnia-Herzegovina to create a unified Islamic state, perhaps as soon as next Spring."
"The Clinton-Islamist coalition of Bosnia-Herzegovina". Wow. Is this guy a comedian or something? Who can take this guy seriously, let alone call him "an expert"? This expert is reversing the truth: he is stating that Bosnian Muslims attacked and eliminated Serbs, whereas the whole World knows that the opposite is the truth: Serbs have eliminated (killed or ethnically cleansed) over 70% of Bosnia. A fact!!! Over 95% of war criminals accused by the Hague tribunal are Serbs. Two largest war criminals hiding in Belgrade and Serbia are Serbs (Karadzic and Mladic). Another fact!!!
Well, "next spring" is gone more than 5 years ago (the article was written in 2000) but this "wise guy", the expert" as he likes to be called, was all wrong. There is no Islamic state in Bosnia.
This clown continues with his "expertise" and says:
"The US Clinton Administration is now on record as saying that intends to keep US forces in Bosnia-Herzegovina "indefinitely"' in order to secure the survival of an Islamic state controlling the entire territory. With that confirmation, the long-standing policy of the Clinton Administration - securing lzetbegovic's Islamic State at all cost, including direct US military intervention -is being spelled out publicly".
I cannot even continue to read this clown. How does he get paid writing this garbage?
Here the same clown on http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/afp102504.htm website.
Sherrie, luckily your news agency is unknown and now I know the reason for that. Spreading propaganda is certainly not going to change that.
Best,
Sherrie,
Dusko Trifunovic, even if he was involved as a diplomat, was posted there by the serbian nationalists. We all know very well how much Serbs like Bosnia and Herzegovina, don't we? Most of diplomats ( well close to 100%) posted to the bosnian government by the Serbian side are working on destruction of Bosnia. This is a well-known fact. Just ask Peddy Ashdown.
http://www.nato.int/sfor/media/2003/ms031016.htm
"Ministry of Foreign Affairs: "Statements about links to al-Qaida are irrational"
"The removed First Secretary of the BiH Mission to the UN, Darko Trifunovic, stated for Novi Reporter magazine that BiH diplomats of Bosniac and Croat nationality working in the mission in New York had been linked to al-Qaida terrorist network. He also stated that the contacts between al-Qaida and BiH diplomats in the New York mission would resume as long as the BiH Ambassador to the UN was Mirza Kusljugic. The BiH Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson, Miranda Sidran, stated that the allegations stated by Trifunovic were absolutely irrational. "BiH diplomats are servants of BiH regardless to their nationality. They represent the interests of our country. It is obvious that Trifunovic apparently lives in different world," stated Ms. Sidran. As a reminder, Dusko Trifunovic was deprived of his BiH diplomatic passport in 2002 because of his anti-Bosnian activities and deterioration of the reputation of BiH. The BiH Ministry of Foreign Affairs notified all diplomatic missions and embassies in Sarajevo about it because Trifunovic rejected to return his passport to the ministry. "
Interestingly, there is a person with the same name blaming Bosnia for 9/11 on different forums:
LINKS BETWEEN 9/11 (MUHAMAED ATTA) AND THE AL-QAEDA NETWORK IN BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA :http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1182973/posts
Bodanski writes for the same website (freerepublic.com)
Again, Darko Trifunovic, cited by the http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/srna071404.htm web site. Sure, we can all trust Darko. We all know that he is an "expert", right? Expert in destroying Bosnia for sure!!!
This "expert" writes in 2003 that NATO is going to get attacked in Bosnia. It is already the end of 2005 and we did not have a single attack against NATO forces in Bosnia in 10 years. (BOSNIAN AL-QA'IDAH MEMBERS PLAN ATTACKS ON NATO - TERRORISM EXPERT
SRNA - October 17, 2003 http://emperor.vwh.net/reports/news/srna101703.htm
It is funny that SRNA, the bosnian Serb news agency that made up some the worst lies during the war, is all over these articles. One of the lies of this agency during the war was that "Muslims feed lions in the Sarajevo Zoo with serbian children".
Want more about Dusko Trifunovic? Here is a web page of the Serbian unity congress: http://news.suc.org/bydate/2004/July_19/5.html. Expert names some Al-Qa'idah members present in Bosnia, SRNA, July 19, 2004
And Sherrie, yes I found your article "Church Desecration Video Serves as Jihad Fund-Raiser".
You introduced Dusko Trifunovic as "deputy director of the Center for Security and Investigation of Terrorism at the Belgrade Institute for Political Studies", who provided Cybercast News Service with a copy of the video during his recent visit to Washington, D.C. http://irnnews.com/news.asp?action=detail&article=7931 . Great independant source of info Sherrie, isn't it?
Here is his website where it clearly says that Dusko currently works for Serbia and Montenegro government, an aggressor country responsible for 200,000 dead in Bosnia: http://www.fco.bg.ac.yu/trifunovic%20bio_engl.htm. All Serbs look for a good excuse that would defend their genocidal actions during Bosnian war. BTW, he looks very ugly. You can tell him that when you meet him for preparation of a new article.
Now this is really sad! How can you call yourself a journalist? A terrorist expert from Belgrade, the capital city of a country which destroyed Bosnia during the war, is your reliable source??? He provided you with the video??? It is quite interesting that in every article your write, you always mention the same "experts": Evan F. Kohlmann, Dusko Trifunovic and Yossef Bodansky. Even a little kid would realize that you are just working toward your cause and have no intention to show the truth. BTW, Serbian side destroyed over 1,000 mosques during the war. Only in my city (Banja Luka), they destroyed 16 mosques, two of which were protected by the UNESCO. Did you write any articles about that???
It is pretty obvious that you are involved in the Serbian propaganda war. I am not sure if you get any monetary gain by the Serbian lobby, but now I at least know that you have some interest in being on the Serbian side, unless you show me some of your articles that discuss numerous Serbian war crimes that were characterized as genocide by the Hague tribunal.
As far as Mr. Bodansky goes, it is enough to read one of his articles to see his intentions. I will give just few examples:
Defence and Foreign Affair Strategic Policies November - December page: 13,14,15 http://www.balkanpeace.org/cib/bac/bac04.html
The Balkans Conflict
Turning Point In Brcko By Yossef Bodansky
"The long-term impact of the Clinton-Islamist coalition in Bosnia-Herzegovina is now showing. The US has ensured that the Bosnian Muslim army is ready to begin attacking and eliminating the remaining Serb areas of Bosnia-Herzegovina to create a unified Islamic state, perhaps as soon as next Spring."
"The Clinton-Islamist coalition of Bosnia-Herzegovina". Wow. Is this guy a comedian or something? Who can take this guy seriously, let alone call him "an expert"? This expert is reversing the truth: he is stating that Bosnian Muslims attacked and eliminated Serbs, whereas the whole World knows that the opposite is the truth: Serbs have eliminated (killed or ethnically cleansed) over 70% of Bosnia. A fact!!! Over 95% of war criminals accused by the Hague tribunal are Serbs. Two largest war criminals hiding in Belgrade and Serbia are Serbs (Karadzic and Mladic). Another fact!!!
Well, "next spring" is gone more than 5 years ago (the article was written in 2000) but this "wise guy", the expert" as he likes to be called, was all wrong. There is no Islamic state in Bosnia.
This clown continues with his "expertise" and says:
"The US Clinton Administration is now on record as saying that intends to keep US forces in Bosnia-Herzegovina "indefinitely"' in order to secure the survival of an Islamic state controlling the entire territory. With that confirmation, the long-standing policy of the Clinton Administration - securing lzetbegovic's Islamic State at all cost, including direct US military intervention -is being spelled out publicly".
I cannot even continue to read this clown. How does he get paid writing this garbage?
Here the same clown on http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/afp102504.htm website.
Sherrie, luckily your news agency is unknown and now I know the reason for that. Spreading propaganda is certainly not going to change that.
Best,
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#23
M.D, svaka cast, samo naprijed.
Pozdrav
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#24
Bi li mogao biti dobar pa malo potkrijepiti i obrazloziti ovo gore?List wrote: ....
Mada nisu svi tako radikalni kao Slobodna Bosna. Ali, niti jedan medij nije uvijek objektivan.
A Senad je ocaj "zivi".
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Posebno sta ti podrazumijevas pod radikalizmom uopste, a onda u slucaju Slobodne Bosne!
Unaprijed zahvalan!
Sto se same teme tiche, niti vjerujem niti ne vjerujem ovim vijestima oko kampova!
Znam samo da ih ima i previse u Bosni koji imaju bosanske pasose a koje su dobili od onih kojima bih ja najradije oduzeo iste!
Bez obzira sto im je ovo pradjedovina!
Ochi sam jos 1990. zatvarao pred nekim stvarima.
Nemam namjeru da im dozvolim da me jos jednom namagarce!
Kad sam bio mali, vjerovao sam da su "nasi momci" uvijek dobri, a samo "njihovi" da su stalno loshi!
Odrastoh, ponajvise zahvaljujuci "nasima"!
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M.D.
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Koja koincidencija. Gospodin Copley koji je hvaljen od ove kurvetine kao glavni izvor informacija za njen propagadni clanak je Draganu Cavucu, predsjedniku RS dodjelio nagradu za borbu protiv terorizma. Previse brate cak i ako je od Koplija:
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct2103.htm
Balkan Strategic Studies
October 21, 2003
ISSA Recognizes Republica Srpska President Dragan Cavic for Achievements “In the Face of Enormous Obstacles”
The International Strategic Studies Association (ISSA), the Washington-based, worldwide organization for strategic policy officials, and publisher of the Global Information System/Defense & Foreign Affairs, issued a statement on October 20, 2003, that His Excellency Dragan Cavic, the President of Republica Srpska, in Bosnia & Herzegovina, had been awarded the Association’s highest recognition, the Gold Star Award for klix Contributions to Strategic Progress.
The medal, which is not awarded every year, is awarded to Pres. Cavic because of his unique contributions in the face of enormous obstacles. These contributions include:
1. Ensuring, to the maximum degree possible and to a greater extent than perhaps any other leader in the region, the implementation of and compliance with the terms of the 1995 Dayton Accords which ended the Bosnia-Herzegovina civil war;
2. His significant rôle in the war against terrorism, in which Republica Srpska has found itself on the front-line, facing a substantial and increasing burden of infiltration and activity by terrorists related to al-Qaida and other groups and state sponsors;
3. His contributions to the reconciliation and wellbeing of peoples of all faiths in the territory of Republica Srpska, particularly in the face of deliberate provocations by significant officials and groups anxious to continue to divide the region along communal and religious lines;
4. His pioneering work in helping to bring his area of Bosnia-Herzegovina into line with NATO and European Union standards of security, democracy, political transparency and accountability. This included preparing the Armed Forces of Republica Srpska for civilian command and control within the context of Bosnia & Herzegovina in such a way that they could meet NATO’s Partnership for Peace (PfP) requirements, and ensuring maximum cooperation with NATO’s SFOR Stabilization Force in the region; and
5. His commitment to working diligently and transparently with the international legal community, and particularly the International Criminal Tribunal on the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY), in resolving the painful klix issues surrounding war crimes committed in Bosnia-Herzegovina during the country’s civil war.
Gregory R. Copley, President of ISSA, said: “This Award was made after extensive research into President Cavic’s work, including considerable on-the-ground observations, and after consulting with a number of very trusted and senior peoples within the North Atlantic Alliance and the governments of other states. The respect for President Cavic and the integrity with which he and a significant number of dedicated elected officials have brought Republica Srpska to the point of social, political and economic recovery, has been considerable.”
“It is well-known that a number of officials, both in neighboring areas of Bosnia & Herzegovina and among the international community overseeing the Dayton Accords, have long entertained preconceptions which are implacably hostile to the Bosnian Serbs. President Cavic and his colleagues have, nonetheless, persisted in attempting to build the new state of Republica Srpska in such a way that grounds for communal hostility are removed. Indeed, Republica Srpska, which was intended to be constrained by the Dayton Accords, has enthusiastically demonstrated that it has complied with those accords, and has set an example which has not been matched.”
“This ISSA Award is intended to draw international attention to the exceptionally positive work already undertaken by President Cavic and his colleagues — who are also recognized by this Award — and to ensure that he has the freedom and support to continue it. We are highly conscious of the fact that there are officials outside Republica Srpska who, in supporting other communal groups within Bosnia & Herzegovina, are attempting to diminish the positive results in Republica Srpska and reinforce the communal hatreds of the civil war.”
“At this time, however, Republica Srpska is a vital bulwark in the intelligence and security war against terrorism, and President Cavic and his team of elected and appointed officials must be encouraged and assisted in this process.”
The Association this year plans to make two other presentations of its highest award, the Gold Star Medal for klix Contributions to Strategic Progress. These would be announced in the coming weeks, both to Muslim leaders in different continents.
It is hoped that the personal investiture of the Gold Star Medal to President Cavic would take place before the end of 2003.
The Award has, in the past, been made to a wide range of leaders from around the world, including former US Secretary of State Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.; former US Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger; Jamaican Prime Minister Edward Seaga; Pakistan President Mohammed Zia ul-Haq; Nigerian President Ibrahim B. Babangida; British Minister of State for Defence Sir Geoffrey Pattie; former Egyptian Defense Minister Field Marshal Mohammed Abdelhalim Abu-Ghazala; US Senator John Tower; and numerous others.
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct2103.htm
Balkan Strategic Studies
October 21, 2003
ISSA Recognizes Republica Srpska President Dragan Cavic for Achievements “In the Face of Enormous Obstacles”
The International Strategic Studies Association (ISSA), the Washington-based, worldwide organization for strategic policy officials, and publisher of the Global Information System/Defense & Foreign Affairs, issued a statement on October 20, 2003, that His Excellency Dragan Cavic, the President of Republica Srpska, in Bosnia & Herzegovina, had been awarded the Association’s highest recognition, the Gold Star Award for klix Contributions to Strategic Progress.
The medal, which is not awarded every year, is awarded to Pres. Cavic because of his unique contributions in the face of enormous obstacles. These contributions include:
1. Ensuring, to the maximum degree possible and to a greater extent than perhaps any other leader in the region, the implementation of and compliance with the terms of the 1995 Dayton Accords which ended the Bosnia-Herzegovina civil war;
2. His significant rôle in the war against terrorism, in which Republica Srpska has found itself on the front-line, facing a substantial and increasing burden of infiltration and activity by terrorists related to al-Qaida and other groups and state sponsors;
3. His contributions to the reconciliation and wellbeing of peoples of all faiths in the territory of Republica Srpska, particularly in the face of deliberate provocations by significant officials and groups anxious to continue to divide the region along communal and religious lines;
4. His pioneering work in helping to bring his area of Bosnia-Herzegovina into line with NATO and European Union standards of security, democracy, political transparency and accountability. This included preparing the Armed Forces of Republica Srpska for civilian command and control within the context of Bosnia & Herzegovina in such a way that they could meet NATO’s Partnership for Peace (PfP) requirements, and ensuring maximum cooperation with NATO’s SFOR Stabilization Force in the region; and
5. His commitment to working diligently and transparently with the international legal community, and particularly the International Criminal Tribunal on the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY), in resolving the painful klix issues surrounding war crimes committed in Bosnia-Herzegovina during the country’s civil war.
Gregory R. Copley, President of ISSA, said: “This Award was made after extensive research into President Cavic’s work, including considerable on-the-ground observations, and after consulting with a number of very trusted and senior peoples within the North Atlantic Alliance and the governments of other states. The respect for President Cavic and the integrity with which he and a significant number of dedicated elected officials have brought Republica Srpska to the point of social, political and economic recovery, has been considerable.”
“It is well-known that a number of officials, both in neighboring areas of Bosnia & Herzegovina and among the international community overseeing the Dayton Accords, have long entertained preconceptions which are implacably hostile to the Bosnian Serbs. President Cavic and his colleagues have, nonetheless, persisted in attempting to build the new state of Republica Srpska in such a way that grounds for communal hostility are removed. Indeed, Republica Srpska, which was intended to be constrained by the Dayton Accords, has enthusiastically demonstrated that it has complied with those accords, and has set an example which has not been matched.”
“This ISSA Award is intended to draw international attention to the exceptionally positive work already undertaken by President Cavic and his colleagues — who are also recognized by this Award — and to ensure that he has the freedom and support to continue it. We are highly conscious of the fact that there are officials outside Republica Srpska who, in supporting other communal groups within Bosnia & Herzegovina, are attempting to diminish the positive results in Republica Srpska and reinforce the communal hatreds of the civil war.”
“At this time, however, Republica Srpska is a vital bulwark in the intelligence and security war against terrorism, and President Cavic and his team of elected and appointed officials must be encouraged and assisted in this process.”
The Association this year plans to make two other presentations of its highest award, the Gold Star Medal for klix Contributions to Strategic Progress. These would be announced in the coming weeks, both to Muslim leaders in different continents.
It is hoped that the personal investiture of the Gold Star Medal to President Cavic would take place before the end of 2003.
The Award has, in the past, been made to a wide range of leaders from around the world, including former US Secretary of State Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.; former US Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger; Jamaican Prime Minister Edward Seaga; Pakistan President Mohammed Zia ul-Haq; Nigerian President Ibrahim B. Babangida; British Minister of State for Defence Sir Geoffrey Pattie; former Egyptian Defense Minister Field Marshal Mohammed Abdelhalim Abu-Ghazala; US Senator John Tower; and numerous others.