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#251 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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SamoVasGledam wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote: 29 ------> 3:166
30 ------> 3:180
Recimo zar se u ajetu 3:167 takođe ne spominje dan?
Spominje se togadana, jedna rijec Yewmezin, nesto poput na nasem Djurdjevdan, spojeno i sad neko dodje i kaze daj da brojimo ovo Dan iz Djurdjevdan....ne ide druze

znaci uzima se samo Dan - Yewm, Yewmen

dok dvorijecni Dani se ne uzimaju u obzir.
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#252 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Smrcak15 wrote:
SamoVasGledam wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote: 29 ------> 3:166
30 ------> 3:180
Recimo zar se u ajetu 3:167 takođe ne spominje dan?
Spominje se togadana, jedna rijec Yewmezin, nesto poput na nasem Djurdjevdan, spojeno i sad neko dodje i kaze daj da brojimo ovo Dan iz Djurdjevdan....ne ide druze

znaci uzima se samo Dan - Yewm, Yewmen

dok dvorijecni Dani se ne uzimaju u obzir.
A ajet 21:103?
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#253 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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SamoVasGledam wrote: A ajet 21:103?
Isto i to, tu stoji Yewmukum Vasdan tj Vas dan, zajedno, ne racuna se u ovih obicnih Yewm - dan.
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#254 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Smrcak15 wrote:
evo liste
Rijec يوم (dan)se ne pojavljuje u Kuranu 365 puta, kao sto ti kazes.
Rijec يوم (dan) u svim svojim formama se pojavljuje 475 puta, i to 445 puta u jednini
Rijec dan u svojoj osnovnoj formi (koji se sastoji od korijena ي - و - م (ya - waw - mim) bez ikakvih sufiksa/prefiksa i kada se ingorisu razlike u dijalektickim znakovima se pojavljuje 217 puta u Kuranu.

The letter after m determines case
yawmu - nominative
yawma - accusative
When indefinite noun is accusative, the letter ا (alif) is suffixed
yawmi - genitive
wa- (و) prefix means "and"
bi- (ب) prefix means "in" or "with"
fa- (ف) prefix means "then"
li- (ل) prefix means "to" or "for"
al- (ال) prefix generally means the word is definite, but with the word yawm, al-yawm means "today".
bi- + al- becomes bil-
wa- + al- becomes wal-
fa- + al- becomes fal-
The "n" at the end means indefinite. If there is no al- prefix making it definite nor -n suffix making it indefinite, than it's possessive "day of".
ayyaam is plural, yawmayn is dual.
-kum suffix means "your", -hum or -him means "their"
yawma-idhin means "that day"

1 ------> 1 :4 (The day)
2 ------> 2:8 (and in the day)
3 ------> 2:48 (day)
4 ------> 2:62 (and the day)
5 ------> 2:85 (and (on the) day)
6 ------> 2:113 (on the day)
7 ------> 2:123 (a day)
8 ------> 2:126 (and the day)
9 ------> 2:174 (on the day)
10 ------> 2:177 (and the day)
11 ------> 2:212 (on the day)
12 ------> 2:228 (and the day)
13 ------> 2:232 (and the day)
14 ------> 2:249 (today)
15 ------> 2:254 (the day)
16 ------> 2:259 (a day)
17 ------> 2:259 ((of) a day)
18 ------> 2:264 (and the day)
19 ------> 2:281 (a day)
20 ------> 3:9 (on a day)
21 ------> 3:25 (on a day)
22 ------> 3:30 (on the day)
23 ------> 3:55 (the day)
24 ------> 3:77 (on the day)
25 ------> 3:106 (on the day)
26 ------> 3:114 (and the day)
27 ------> 3:155 (on the day)
28 ------> 3:161 (on the day)
29 ------> 3:166 (on the day)
3:167 (on that day) Ovaj je fulala
30 ------> 3:180 (on the day)
31 ------> 3:185 (on the day)
32 ------> 3:194 (on the day)
33 ------> 4:38 (in the day)
34 ------> 4:39 (and the day)
4:42 (on that day) Ovaj je fulala
35 ------> 4:59 (and the day)
36 ------> 4:87 (on the day)
37 ------> 4:109 (on the day)
38 ------> 4:136 (and the day)
39 ------> 4:141 (on the day)
40 ------> 4:159 (and on the day)
41 ------> 4:162 (and the day)
42 ------> 5:3 (this day)
43 ------> 5:3 (this day)
44 ------> 5:5 (this day)
45 ------> 5:14 (the day)
46 ------> 5:36 (of the day)
47 ------> 5:64 ((till) the day)
48 ------> 5:69 (and the day)
49 ------> 5:109 (on the day)
50 ------> 5:119 (the day)
51 ------> 6:12 (the day)
52 ------> 6:15 (of a day)
6:16 (on that day)Nista to nije
53 ------> 6:22 (and on the day)
54 ------> 6:73 (and on the day)
55 ------> 6:73 (on the day)
56 ------> 6:93 (today)
57 ------> 6:128 (and on the day)
6:130 (of your day) Khhh, khhh :D
58 ------> 6:141 (on the day)
59 ------> 6:158 (the day)
7:8 (on that day)
60 ------> 7:14 (the day)
61 ------> 7:32 (on the day)
62 ------> 7:51 (so today)
7:51 (their day)
63 ------> 7:53 (on the day)
64 ------> 7:59 (of a day)
65 ------> 7:163(on the day)
66 ------> 7:163(and on the day)
67 ------> 7:167(the day)
68 ------> 7:172(on the day)
8:16 (on that day)
69 ------> 8:41 (on the day)
70 ------> 8:41 (the day)
71 ------> 8:48 (this day)
72 ------> 9:3 (on the day)
73 ------> 9:18 (and the day)
74 ------> 9:19 (and the day)
75 ------> 9:25 (and on the day)
76 ------> 9:29 (in the day)
77 ------> 9:35 (on the day)
78 ------> 9:36 (the day)
79 ------> 9:44 (and the day)
80 ------> 9:45 (and the day)
81 ------> 9:77 ([till] the day)
82 ------> 9:99 (and the day)
83 ------> 9:108(the day)
84 ------> 10:15(of a day)
85 ------> 10:28(and on the day)
86 ------> 10:45(and on the day)
87 ------> 10:60(on the day)
88 ------> 10:92(but this day)
89 ------> 10:93(on the day)
90 ------> 11:3 (of a day)
91 ------> 11:8 (on the day)
92 ------> 11:26(of a day)
93 ------> 11:43(today)
94 ------> 11:60(and on the day)
11:66 (of that day)
95 ------> 11:77(a day)
96 ------> 11:84(of an day)
97 ------> 11:98(on the day)
98 ------> 11:99(and on the day)
99 ------> 11:103(a day)
100 ------> 11:103(a day)
101 ------> 11:105(on the day)
102 ------> 12:54(today)
103 ------> 12:92(this day)
104 ------> 14:18(a day)
105 ------> 14:31(of the day)
106 ------> 14:41(on the day)
107 ------> 14:42(to a day)
108 ------> 14:44(of the day)
109 ------> 14:48(on the day)
14:49 (on that day)
110 ------> 15:35((until) the day)
111 ------> 15:36((till) the day)
112 ------> 15:38((till) the day)
113 ------> 16:25(on the day)
114 ------> 16:27(on the day)
115 ------> 16:27(this day)
116 ------> 16:63(today)
117 ------> 16:80(on the day)
118 ------> 16:80(and on the day)
119 ------> 16:84(and on the day)
16:87 (on that day)
120 ------> 16:89(and on the day)
121 ------> 16:92(on the day)
122 ------> 16:111(on the day)
123 ------> 16:124(on the day)
124 ------> 17:13 (on the day)
125 ------> 17:14 (this day)
126 ------> 17:52(on the day)
127 ------> 17:58(the day)
128 ------> 17:62((to) the day)
129 ------> 17:71(the day)
130 ------> 17:97(on the day)
131 ------> 18:19((for) a day)
132 ------> 18:19(of a day)
133 ------> 18:47(and the day)
134 ------> 18:52(and on the day)
18:99 (on that day)
18:199 (on that day)
135 ------> 18:105(on the day)
136 ------> 19:15(on the day)
137 ------> 19:15(and on the day)
138 ------> 19:15(and on the day)
139 ------> 19:26(today)
140 ------> 19:33(on the day)
141 ------> 19:33(and on the day)
142 ------> 19:33(and on the day)
143 ------> 19:37(of a day)
144 ------> 19:38(on the day)
145 ------> 19:38(this day)
146 ------> 19:39(of the day)
147 ------> 19:85(the day)
148 ------> 19:95(on the day)
149 ------> 20:59((is) the day)
150 ------> 20:64(this day)
151 ------> 20:100(on the day)
152 ------> 20:101(on the day)
153 ------> 20:102(on the day (when))
20:102 (on that day)
154 ------> 20:104(a day)
20:108 (on that day)
20:109 (on that day)
155 ------> 20:124(on the day)
156 ------> 20:126(this day)
157 ------> 21:47(for the day)
21:103 (your day)
158 ------> 21:104(on the day (when))
159 ------> 22:2(on the day)
160 ------> 22:9(on the day (of))
161 ------> 22:17(on the day (of))
162 ------> 22:47(a day)
163 ------> 22:55((of) a day)
22:56 (on that day)
164 ------> 22:69(on the day)
165 ------> 23:16(on the day (of))
166 ------> 23:65(this day)
167 ------> 23:100([until] the day)
23:101 (on that day)
168 ------> 23:111(this day)
169 ------> 23:113(a day)
170 ------> 23:113((of) a day)
171 ------> 24:2(and the day)
172 ------> 24:24(on the day (when))
24:25 (on that day)
173 ------> 24:37(a day)
174 ------> 24:64(and on the day (on which))
175 ------> 25:14(this day)
176 ------> 25:17(and on the day (when))
177 ------> 25:22(on the day)
25:22 (on that day)
25:24 (on that day)
178 ------> 25:25(and on the day)
179 ------> 25:26(on that day)
25:26 (a day)
180 ------> 25:27(and the day)
181 ------> 25:69(on the day (of))
182 ------> 26:38(on the day)
183 ------> 26:82(on the day (of))
184 ------> 26:87(on the day (when))
185 ------> 26:88(the day on (which))
186 ------> 26:135(of a day)
187 ------> 26:155(on a day)
188 ------> 26:156(of a day)
189 ------> 26:189(of the day (of))
190 ------> 26:189(of a day)
191 ------> 27:83(and on the day (when))
192 ------> 27:87(and on the day)
27:89 (on the day)
193 ------> 28:41(and the day (of))
194 ------> 28:42(and on the day (of))
195 ------> 28:61(on the day (of))
196 ------> 28:62(and on the day (when))
197 ------> 28:65(and on the day (when))
28:66 (on that day)
198 ------> 28:71(till the day (of))
199 ------> 28:72(till the day (of))
200 ------> 28:74(and on the day (when))
201 ------> 29:13(on the day)
202 ------> 29:25(on the day)
203 ------> 29:36(the day)
204 ------> 29:55(on the day (when))
30:4 (and on that day)
205 ------> 30:12(and on the day)
206 ------> 30:14(and on the day)
30:14 (on that day)
207 ------> 30:43(the day)
208 ------> 30:55(and on the day)
209 ------> 30:56([till] the day)
210 ------> 30:56(the day)
30:57 (but on that day)
211 ------> 31:33(the day)
212 ------> 32:5([in] a day)
32:14 ([this] day of yours)
213 ------> 32:25(on the day (of))
214 ------> 32:29(on the day (of))
215 ------> 33:21(and the day)
216 ------> 33:44(on the day)
217 ------> 33:66(on the day)
218 ------> 34:30(of a day)
219 ------> 34:40(and on the day)
220 ------> 34:42(so on that day)
221 ------> 35:14(and the day)
222 ------> 36:54(so this day)
223 ------> 36:55(on that day)
224 ------> 36:59(today)
225 ------> 36:64(this day)
226 ------> 36:65(on that day)
227 ------> 37:20(the day of)
228 ------> 37:21(the day of)
229 ------> 37:26(on that day)
37:33 (on that day)
230 ------> 37:144(the day)
231 ------> 38:16(the day of)
232 ------> 38:26(the day of)
233 ------> 38:53(for the day of)
234 ------> 38:78(the day of)
235 ------> 38:79(the day)
236 ------> 38:81([till] the day)
237 ------> 39:13(of a day)
238 ------> 39:15(on the day (of))
239 ------> 39:24(on the day)
240 ------> 39:31(on the day (of))
241 ------> 39:47(on the day (of))
242 ------> 39:60(and on the day (of))
243 ------> 39:67(on the day (of))
39:71 (your day)
40:9 (that day)
244 ------> 40:15(on the day (of))
245 ------> 40:16(the day)
246 ------> 40:16(this day)
247 ------> 40:17(this day)
248 ------> 40:17(this day)
249 ------> 40:18(of the day)
250 ------> 40:27(in the day (of))
251 ------> 40:29(this day)
252 ------> 40:30(day)
253 ------> 40:32(the day of)
254 ------> 40:33(the day (on which))
255 ------> 40:46(and on the day)
256 ------> 40:49(one day)
257 ------> 40:51(and on the day)
258 ------> 40:52(the day (on which))
259 ------> 41:19(and on the day)
260 ------> 41:40(on the day)
261 ------> 41:47(and on the day)
262 ------> 42:7(of the day)
263 ------> 42:45(on the day)
264 ------> 42:47(the day)
42:47 (on that day)
265 ------> 43:39(this day)
266 ------> 43:65(of a day)
43:47 (on that day)
267 ------> 43:68(this day)
43:83 (their day)
268 ------> 44:10(for the day)
269 ------> 44:16(on the day)
270 ------> 44:40(the day of)
271 ------> 44:41(the day (on which))
272 ------> 45:17(on the day)
273 ------> 45:26([to] the day (of))
274 ------> 45:27(and on the day)
45:27 (on that day)
275 ------> 45:28(today)
276 ------> 45:34(today)
45:34 (your day)
277 ------> 45:35(so on that day)
278 ------> 46:5((till) the day of)
279 ------> 46:20(and on the day)
280 ------> 46:20(so today)
281 ------> 46:21(of a day)
282 ------> 46:34(and on the day)
283 ------> 46:35(on the day)
284 ------> 50:20(the day)
285 ------> 50:22(today)
286 ------> 50:30(on the day)
287 ------> 50:34(the day)
288 ------> 50:41(on the day)
289 ------> 50:42(the day)
290 ------> 50:42(the day of)
291 ------> 50:44(the day)
292 ------> 51:12(the day)
293 ------> 51:13(the day)
51:60 (their day)
294 ------> 52:9(on the day)
52:11 (on that day)
295 ------> 52:13(the day)
52:45 (their day)
296 ------> 52:46(the day)
297 ------> 54:6(the day)
298 ------> 54:8(a day)
299 ------> 54:19(a day)
300 ------> 54:48(on the day)
301 ------> 55:29([every] day)
55:39 (so on that day)
302 ------> 56:50(of a day)
303 ------> 56:56(on the day)
304 ------> 57:12(on the day)
305 ------> 57:12(today)
306 ------> 57:13(on the day)
307 ------> 57:15(so today)
308 ------> 58:6(on the day)
309 ------> 58:7(on the day)
310 ------> 58:18(on the day)
311 ------> 58:22(and the day)
312 ------> 60:3(on the day)
313 ------> 60:6(and the day)
314 ------> 62:9(the day [of Friday])
315 ------> 64:9(on the day)
316 ------> 64:9(for the day)
317 ------> 64:9(the day)
318 ------> 65:2(and the day)
319 ------> 66:7(today)
320 ------> 66:8(on the day)
321 ------> 68:24(today)
322 ------> 68:39([to] the day)
323 ------> 68:42(on the day)
69:15 (then on that day)
69:16 (on that day)
69:17 (that day)
69:18 (on that day)
324 ------> 69:35(today)
325 ------> 70:4(a day)
326 ------> 70:8(on the day)
70:11 (of that day)
327 ------> 70:26(of the day)
70:42 (their day)
328 ------> 70:43(the day)
329 ------> 70:44(the day)
330 ------> 73:14(on the day)
331 ------> 73:17(on the day)
332 ------> 74:9(that day)
74:9 (a day)
333 ------> 74:46(the day)
334 ------> 75:1(by the day)
335 ------> 75:6(the day)
75:10 (on that day)
75:12 (on that day)
75:13 (on that day)
75:22 (on that day)
75:24 (on that day)
75:30 (on that day)
336 ------> 76:7(a day)
337 ------> 76:10(a day)
338 ------> 76:11(of [that] day)
339 ------> 76:27(a day)
340 ------> 77:12(day)
341 ------> 77:13(for the day)
342 ------> 77:14(the day)
77:15 (on that day)
77:19 (on that day)
77:24 (on that day)
77:28 (on that day)
77:34 (on that day)
343 ------> 77:35(the day)
77:37 (on that day)
344 ------> 77:38(the day)
77:40 (on that day)
77:45 (on that day)
77:47 (on that day)
77:49 (on that day)
345 ------> 78:17(the day)
346 ------> 78:18(the day)
347 ------> 78:38(the day)
348 ------> 78:39(the day)
349 ------> 78:40(the day)
350 ------> 79:6(the day (on which))
79:8 (on that day)
351 ------> 79:35(the day (on which))
352 ------> 79:46(the day)
353 ------> 80:34(the day (on which))
80:37 (on that day)
80:38 (on that day)
80:40 (on that day)
354 ------> 82:15(on the day)
355 ------> 82:17(the day)
356 ------> 82:18(the day)
357 ------> 82:19(the day (on which))
82:19 (on that day)
358 ------> 83:5(for a day)
359 ------> 83:6(the day (on which))
83:10 (on that day)
360 ------> 83:11(the day)
83:15 (on that day)
361 ------> 83:34(so today)
362 ------> 85:2(and the day)
363 ------> 86:9(on the day)
88:2 (on that day)
88:8 (on that day)
89:23 (on that day)
89:25 (but on that day)
364 ------> 90:14(a day)
99:4 (on that day)
99:6 (on that day)
100:11 (that day)
365 ------> 101:4(the day (on which))
102:8 (on that day)
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#255 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Smrcak15 wrote:
SamoVasGledam wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote: 29 ------> 3:166
30 ------> 3:180
Recimo zar se u ajetu 3:167 takođe ne spominje dan?
Spominje se togadana, jedna rijec Yewmezin, nesto poput na nasem Djurdjevdan, spojeno i sad neko dodje i kaze daj da brojimo ovo Dan iz Djurdjevdan....ne ide druze

znaci uzima se samo Dan - Yewm, Yewmen

dok dvorijecni Dani se ne uzimaju u obzir.
Kakav cvrni Djurdjevdan Smrle? Hahahahaha
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#256 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Smrcak15 wrote:
SamoVasGledam wrote: A ajet 21:103?
Isto i to, tu stoji Yewmukum Vasdan tj Vas dan, zajedno, ne racuna se u ovih obicnih Yewm - dan.
Zahvaljujem, još samo jedno pitanje - 27:89?
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#257 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Smrcak15 wrote:
JVC wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:Ovo treba da bude na ovoj temi

Ocito mi je sa ovim tekstom gore da si totalno neupucen u ovu temu, a htio bi ko nesto da diskutujes, od sada ti treba da dodjes mi na noge i kazes, druze smrle, molim te pojasni sta kako gdje, bez da zucnes vise ikad ovakve gluposti kao Postavi obiljezeno gdje se pojavljuje rijec "dan" koristeci prevod Besima Korkuta
Druze Smrle, ja anlazirao onih 365 dana, ali ne po prevodu Korkuta, vec po "originalnom" Opet ne ide, nesto se ne poklapa, nisam dobio broj dana ni po islamskom lunarnom kalendaru :( Da je Alah u Kuranu svemoguc kao sto kazes, u prevodu koji je napravio Besim ili bilo ko drugi, trebala bi da se ocituje njegova savrsena rijec bez gubljenja svojih cuda. Ovako, not so much.
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#258 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Smrcak15 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
Kakvo dekodiranje? Pomocu gimetrie :?

Napisi na svojoj temi kako se konkretno dekodira Kur'an :)
Kur'an je vise slojevito programiran, jednostavno, srednje komplicirano, extremno komplicirano itd

a sto se tice dekodiranja brojcanih vrijednosti koriosti se tabela abjad sistema koji je ustanovljen jos prije islama
http://masjidtucson.org/quran/appendices/app01_GVs.gif
pa to ( aplhabet code, star 10 i duze stoljeca p.n.e.) su takodjer, znanto ranije primjenili i Jevreji :D gmatria-kabalisticki metod za analizu hebrejskog alfabeta, 2 stoljeca prije nove ere :) sistem dekoridanja kod starih naorda je poceo 15 stoljece p.n.e., a npr. Sufije su radile numericko dekodiranje Kur'an :)

zasto naucna otkrica nisu ranije dekodriana, a potom primjenjena prije primjene novih naucnih metoda :)
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#259 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
Kakvo dekodiranje? Pomocu gimetrie :?

Napisi na svojoj temi kako se konkretno dekodira Kur'an :)
Kur'an je vise slojevito programiran, jednostavno, srednje komplicirano, extremno komplicirano itd

a sto se tice dekodiranja brojcanih vrijednosti koriosti se tabela abjad sistema koji je ustanovljen jos prije islama
http://masjidtucson.org/quran/appendices/app01_GVs.gif
pa to ( aplhabet code, star 10 i duze stoljeca p.n.e.) su takodjer, znanto ranije primjenili i Jevreji :D gmatria-kabalisticki metod za analizu hebrejskog alfabeta, 2 stoljeca prije nove ere :) sistem dekoridanja kod starih naorda je poceo 15 stoljece p.n.e., a npr. Sufije su radile numericko dekodiranje Kur'an :)

zasto naucna otkrica nisu ranije dekodriana, a potom primjenjena prije primjene novih naucnih metoda :)
Zamisli da ja otvorim zasebnu temu o brojčanim čudima iz Biblije?
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#260 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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JVC wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
evo liste
Rijec يوم (dan)se ne pojavljuje u Kuranu 365 puta, kao sto ti kazes.
Rijec يوم (dan) u svim svojim formama se pojavljuje 475 puta, i to 445 puta u jednini
Rijec dan u svojoj osnovnoj formi (koji se sastoji od korijena ي - و - م (ya - waw - mim) bez ikakvih sufiksa/prefiksa i kada se ingorisu razlike u dijalektickim znakovima se pojavljuje 217 puta u Kuranu.

The letter after m determines case
yawmu - nominative
yawma - accusative
When indefinite noun is accusative, the letter ا (alif) is suffixed
yawmi - genitive
wa- (و) prefix means "and"
bi- (ب) prefix means "in" or "with"
fa- (ف) prefix means "then"
li- (ل) prefix means "to" or "for"
al- (ال) prefix generally means the word is definite, but with the word yawm, al-yawm means "today".
bi- + al- becomes bil-
wa- + al- becomes wal-
fa- + al- becomes fal-
The "n" at the end means indefinite. If there is no al- prefix making it definite nor -n suffix making it indefinite, than it's possessive "day of".
ayyaam is plural, yawmayn is dual.
-kum suffix means "your", -hum or -him means "their"
yawma-idhin means "that day"

1 ------> 1 :4 (The day)
2 ------> 2:8 (and in the day)
3 ------> 2:48 (day)
4 ------> 2:62 (and the day)
5 ------> 2:85 (and (on the) day)
6 ------> 2:113 (on the day)
7 ------> 2:123 (a day)
8 ------> 2:126 (and the day)
9 ------> 2:174 (on the day)
10 ------> 2:177 (and the day)
11 ------> 2:212 (on the day)
12 ------> 2:228 (and the day)
13 ------> 2:232 (and the day)
14 ------> 2:249 (today)
15 ------> 2:254 (the day)
16 ------> 2:259 (a day)
17 ------> 2:259 ((of) a day)
18 ------> 2:264 (and the day)
19 ------> 2:281 (a day)
20 ------> 3:9 (on a day)
21 ------> 3:25 (on a day)
22 ------> 3:30 (on the day)
23 ------> 3:55 (the day)
24 ------> 3:77 (on the day)
25 ------> 3:106 (on the day)
26 ------> 3:114 (and the day)
27 ------> 3:155 (on the day)
28 ------> 3:161 (on the day)
29 ------> 3:166 (on the day)
3:167 (on that day) Ovaj je fulala
30 ------> 3:180 (on the day)
31 ------> 3:185 (on the day)
32 ------> 3:194 (on the day)
33 ------> 4:38 (in the day)
34 ------> 4:39 (and the day)
4:42 (on that day) Ovaj je fulala
35 ------> 4:59 (and the day)
36 ------> 4:87 (on the day)
37 ------> 4:109 (on the day)
38 ------> 4:136 (and the day)
39 ------> 4:141 (on the day)
40 ------> 4:159 (and on the day)
41 ------> 4:162 (and the day)
42 ------> 5:3 (this day)
43 ------> 5:3 (this day)
44 ------> 5:5 (this day)
45 ------> 5:14 (the day)
46 ------> 5:36 (of the day)
47 ------> 5:64 ((till) the day)
48 ------> 5:69 (and the day)
49 ------> 5:109 (on the day)
50 ------> 5:119 (the day)
51 ------> 6:12 (the day)
52 ------> 6:15 (of a day)
6:16 (on that day)Nista to nije
53 ------> 6:22 (and on the day)
54 ------> 6:73 (and on the day)
55 ------> 6:73 (on the day)
56 ------> 6:93 (today)
57 ------> 6:128 (and on the day)
6:130 (of your day) Khhh, khhh :D
58 ------> 6:141 (on the day)
59 ------> 6:158 (the day)
7:8 (on that day)
60 ------> 7:14 (the day)
61 ------> 7:32 (on the day)
62 ------> 7:51 (so today)
7:51 (their day)
63 ------> 7:53 (on the day)
64 ------> 7:59 (of a day)
65 ------> 7:163(on the day)
66 ------> 7:163(and on the day)
67 ------> 7:167(the day)
68 ------> 7:172(on the day)
8:16 (on that day)
69 ------> 8:41 (on the day)
70 ------> 8:41 (the day)
71 ------> 8:48 (this day)
72 ------> 9:3 (on the day)
73 ------> 9:18 (and the day)
74 ------> 9:19 (and the day)
75 ------> 9:25 (and on the day)
76 ------> 9:29 (in the day)
77 ------> 9:35 (on the day)
78 ------> 9:36 (the day)
79 ------> 9:44 (and the day)
80 ------> 9:45 (and the day)
81 ------> 9:77 ([till] the day)
82 ------> 9:99 (and the day)
83 ------> 9:108(the day)
84 ------> 10:15(of a day)
85 ------> 10:28(and on the day)
86 ------> 10:45(and on the day)
87 ------> 10:60(on the day)
88 ------> 10:92(but this day)
89 ------> 10:93(on the day)
90 ------> 11:3 (of a day)
91 ------> 11:8 (on the day)
92 ------> 11:26(of a day)
93 ------> 11:43(today)
94 ------> 11:60(and on the day)
11:66 (of that day)
95 ------> 11:77(a day)
96 ------> 11:84(of an day)
97 ------> 11:98(on the day)
98 ------> 11:99(and on the day)
99 ------> 11:103(a day)
100 ------> 11:103(a day)
101 ------> 11:105(on the day)
102 ------> 12:54(today)
103 ------> 12:92(this day)
104 ------> 14:18(a day)
105 ------> 14:31(of the day)
106 ------> 14:41(on the day)
107 ------> 14:42(to a day)
108 ------> 14:44(of the day)
109 ------> 14:48(on the day)
14:49 (on that day)
110 ------> 15:35((until) the day)
111 ------> 15:36((till) the day)
112 ------> 15:38((till) the day)
113 ------> 16:25(on the day)
114 ------> 16:27(on the day)
115 ------> 16:27(this day)
116 ------> 16:63(today)
117 ------> 16:80(on the day)
118 ------> 16:80(and on the day)
119 ------> 16:84(and on the day)
16:87 (on that day)
120 ------> 16:89(and on the day)
121 ------> 16:92(on the day)
122 ------> 16:111(on the day)
123 ------> 16:124(on the day)
124 ------> 17:13 (on the day)
125 ------> 17:14 (this day)
126 ------> 17:52(on the day)
127 ------> 17:58(the day)
128 ------> 17:62((to) the day)
129 ------> 17:71(the day)
130 ------> 17:97(on the day)
131 ------> 18:19((for) a day)
132 ------> 18:19(of a day)
133 ------> 18:47(and the day)
134 ------> 18:52(and on the day)
18:99 (on that day)
18:199 (on that day)
135 ------> 18:105(on the day)
136 ------> 19:15(on the day)
137 ------> 19:15(and on the day)
138 ------> 19:15(and on the day)
139 ------> 19:26(today)
140 ------> 19:33(on the day)
141 ------> 19:33(and on the day)
142 ------> 19:33(and on the day)
143 ------> 19:37(of a day)
144 ------> 19:38(on the day)
145 ------> 19:38(this day)
146 ------> 19:39(of the day)
147 ------> 19:85(the day)
148 ------> 19:95(on the day)
149 ------> 20:59((is) the day)
150 ------> 20:64(this day)
151 ------> 20:100(on the day)
152 ------> 20:101(on the day)
153 ------> 20:102(on the day (when))
20:102 (on that day)
154 ------> 20:104(a day)
20:108 (on that day)
20:109 (on that day)
155 ------> 20:124(on the day)
156 ------> 20:126(this day)
157 ------> 21:47(for the day)
21:103 (your day)
158 ------> 21:104(on the day (when))
159 ------> 22:2(on the day)
160 ------> 22:9(on the day (of))
161 ------> 22:17(on the day (of))
162 ------> 22:47(a day)
163 ------> 22:55((of) a day)
22:56 (on that day)
164 ------> 22:69(on the day)
165 ------> 23:16(on the day (of))
166 ------> 23:65(this day)
167 ------> 23:100([until] the day)
23:101 (on that day)
168 ------> 23:111(this day)
169 ------> 23:113(a day)
170 ------> 23:113((of) a day)
171 ------> 24:2(and the day)
172 ------> 24:24(on the day (when))
24:25 (on that day)
173 ------> 24:37(a day)
174 ------> 24:64(and on the day (on which))
175 ------> 25:14(this day)
176 ------> 25:17(and on the day (when))
177 ------> 25:22(on the day)
25:22 (on that day)
25:24 (on that day)
178 ------> 25:25(and on the day)
179 ------> 25:26(on that day)
25:26 (a day)
180 ------> 25:27(and the day)
181 ------> 25:69(on the day (of))
182 ------> 26:38(on the day)
183 ------> 26:82(on the day (of))
184 ------> 26:87(on the day (when))
185 ------> 26:88(the day on (which))
186 ------> 26:135(of a day)
187 ------> 26:155(on a day)
188 ------> 26:156(of a day)
189 ------> 26:189(of the day (of))
190 ------> 26:189(of a day)
191 ------> 27:83(and on the day (when))
192 ------> 27:87(and on the day)
27:89 (on the day)
193 ------> 28:41(and the day (of))
194 ------> 28:42(and on the day (of))
195 ------> 28:61(on the day (of))
196 ------> 28:62(and on the day (when))
197 ------> 28:65(and on the day (when))
28:66 (on that day)
198 ------> 28:71(till the day (of))
199 ------> 28:72(till the day (of))
200 ------> 28:74(and on the day (when))
201 ------> 29:13(on the day)
202 ------> 29:25(on the day)
203 ------> 29:36(the day)
204 ------> 29:55(on the day (when))
30:4 (and on that day)
205 ------> 30:12(and on the day)
206 ------> 30:14(and on the day)
30:14 (on that day)
207 ------> 30:43(the day)
208 ------> 30:55(and on the day)
209 ------> 30:56([till] the day)
210 ------> 30:56(the day)
30:57 (but on that day)
211 ------> 31:33(the day)
212 ------> 32:5([in] a day)
32:14 ([this] day of yours)
213 ------> 32:25(on the day (of))
214 ------> 32:29(on the day (of))
215 ------> 33:21(and the day)
216 ------> 33:44(on the day)
217 ------> 33:66(on the day)
218 ------> 34:30(of a day)
219 ------> 34:40(and on the day)
220 ------> 34:42(so on that day)
221 ------> 35:14(and the day)
222 ------> 36:54(so this day)
223 ------> 36:55(on that day)
224 ------> 36:59(today)
225 ------> 36:64(this day)
226 ------> 36:65(on that day)
227 ------> 37:20(the day of)
228 ------> 37:21(the day of)
229 ------> 37:26(on that day)
37:33 (on that day)
230 ------> 37:144(the day)
231 ------> 38:16(the day of)
232 ------> 38:26(the day of)
233 ------> 38:53(for the day of)
234 ------> 38:78(the day of)
235 ------> 38:79(the day)
236 ------> 38:81([till] the day)
237 ------> 39:13(of a day)
238 ------> 39:15(on the day (of))
239 ------> 39:24(on the day)
240 ------> 39:31(on the day (of))
241 ------> 39:47(on the day (of))
242 ------> 39:60(and on the day (of))
243 ------> 39:67(on the day (of))
39:71 (your day)
40:9 (that day)
244 ------> 40:15(on the day (of))
245 ------> 40:16(the day)
246 ------> 40:16(this day)
247 ------> 40:17(this day)
248 ------> 40:17(this day)
249 ------> 40:18(of the day)
250 ------> 40:27(in the day (of))
251 ------> 40:29(this day)
252 ------> 40:30(day)
253 ------> 40:32(the day of)
254 ------> 40:33(the day (on which))
255 ------> 40:46(and on the day)
256 ------> 40:49(one day)
257 ------> 40:51(and on the day)
258 ------> 40:52(the day (on which))
259 ------> 41:19(and on the day)
260 ------> 41:40(on the day)
261 ------> 41:47(and on the day)
262 ------> 42:7(of the day)
263 ------> 42:45(on the day)
264 ------> 42:47(the day)
42:47 (on that day)
265 ------> 43:39(this day)
266 ------> 43:65(of a day)
43:47 (on that day)
267 ------> 43:68(this day)
43:83 (their day)
268 ------> 44:10(for the day)
269 ------> 44:16(on the day)
270 ------> 44:40(the day of)
271 ------> 44:41(the day (on which))
272 ------> 45:17(on the day)
273 ------> 45:26([to] the day (of))
274 ------> 45:27(and on the day)
45:27 (on that day)
275 ------> 45:28(today)
276 ------> 45:34(today)
45:34 (your day)
277 ------> 45:35(so on that day)
278 ------> 46:5((till) the day of)
279 ------> 46:20(and on the day)
280 ------> 46:20(so today)
281 ------> 46:21(of a day)
282 ------> 46:34(and on the day)
283 ------> 46:35(on the day)
284 ------> 50:20(the day)
285 ------> 50:22(today)
286 ------> 50:30(on the day)
287 ------> 50:34(the day)
288 ------> 50:41(on the day)
289 ------> 50:42(the day)
290 ------> 50:42(the day of)
291 ------> 50:44(the day)
292 ------> 51:12(the day)
293 ------> 51:13(the day)
51:60 (their day)
294 ------> 52:9(on the day)
52:11 (on that day)
295 ------> 52:13(the day)
52:45 (their day)
296 ------> 52:46(the day)
297 ------> 54:6(the day)
298 ------> 54:8(a day)
299 ------> 54:19(a day)
300 ------> 54:48(on the day)
301 ------> 55:29([every] day)
55:39 (so on that day)
302 ------> 56:50(of a day)
303 ------> 56:56(on the day)
304 ------> 57:12(on the day)
305 ------> 57:12(today)
306 ------> 57:13(on the day)
307 ------> 57:15(so today)
308 ------> 58:6(on the day)
309 ------> 58:7(on the day)
310 ------> 58:18(on the day)
311 ------> 58:22(and the day)
312 ------> 60:3(on the day)
313 ------> 60:6(and the day)
314 ------> 62:9(the day [of Friday])
315 ------> 64:9(on the day)
316 ------> 64:9(for the day)
317 ------> 64:9(the day)
318 ------> 65:2(and the day)
319 ------> 66:7(today)
320 ------> 66:8(on the day)
321 ------> 68:24(today)
322 ------> 68:39([to] the day)
323 ------> 68:42(on the day)
69:15 (then on that day)
69:16 (on that day)
69:17 (that day)
69:18 (on that day)
324 ------> 69:35(today)
325 ------> 70:4(a day)
326 ------> 70:8(on the day)
70:11 (of that day)
327 ------> 70:26(of the day)
70:42 (their day)
328 ------> 70:43(the day)
329 ------> 70:44(the day)
330 ------> 73:14(on the day)
331 ------> 73:17(on the day)
332 ------> 74:9(that day)
74:9 (a day)
333 ------> 74:46(the day)
334 ------> 75:1(by the day)
335 ------> 75:6(the day)
75:10 (on that day)
75:12 (on that day)
75:13 (on that day)
75:22 (on that day)
75:24 (on that day)
75:30 (on that day)
336 ------> 76:7(a day)
337 ------> 76:10(a day)
338 ------> 76:11(of [that] day)
339 ------> 76:27(a day)
340 ------> 77:12(day)
341 ------> 77:13(for the day)
342 ------> 77:14(the day)
77:15 (on that day)
77:19 (on that day)
77:24 (on that day)
77:28 (on that day)
77:34 (on that day)
343 ------> 77:35(the day)
77:37 (on that day)
344 ------> 77:38(the day)
77:40 (on that day)
77:45 (on that day)
77:47 (on that day)
77:49 (on that day)
345 ------> 78:17(the day)
346 ------> 78:18(the day)
347 ------> 78:38(the day)
348 ------> 78:39(the day)
349 ------> 78:40(the day)
350 ------> 79:6(the day (on which))
79:8 (on that day)
351 ------> 79:35(the day (on which))
352 ------> 79:46(the day)
353 ------> 80:34(the day (on which))
80:37 (on that day)
80:38 (on that day)
80:40 (on that day)
354 ------> 82:15(on the day)
355 ------> 82:17(the day)
356 ------> 82:18(the day)
357 ------> 82:19(the day (on which))
82:19 (on that day)
358 ------> 83:5(for a day)
359 ------> 83:6(the day (on which))
83:10 (on that day)
360 ------> 83:11(the day)
83:15 (on that day)
361 ------> 83:34(so today)
362 ------> 85:2(and the day)
363 ------> 86:9(on the day)
88:2 (on that day)
88:8 (on that day)
89:23 (on that day)
89:25 (but on that day)
364 ------> 90:14(a day)
99:4 (on that day)
99:6 (on that day)
100:11 (that day)
365 ------> 101:4(the day (on which))
102:8 (on that day)
Rijec يوم (dan)se ne pojavljuje u Kuranu 365 puta, kao sto ti kazes.
dostavio sam vec listu a to sto ne kontas i brkas babe i zabe to je tvoj problem
Rijec يوم (dan) u svim svojim formama se pojavljuje 475 puta, i to 445 puta u jednini
ne citas sta pisem, niti razumijes sta pisem

Kazem, Dan u NESPECIFICNOJ FORMI U JEDNINI SE SPOMINJE 365 PUTA

jer Dan u jednini se moze podijeliti specificna forma i nespecificna forma sto ti uopste ne uzimas u obzir niti znas ovo.
3:167 (on that day) Ovaj je fulala
nista to nije fulano, nego si ti fulao, to je specificna forma za Dan, dok mi trazimo samo NESPECIFICNU FORMU KOJA je 365 puta spomenuta.
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#261 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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JVC wrote: Kakav cvrni Djurdjevdan Smrle? Hahahahaha
kako se pise Đurđevdan ili Đurđev dan

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90ur%C4%91evdan

eto kakav, i sad ti dodjes ovdje i kazes, daj da racunamo Dan iz ove rijeci Đurđevdan , eh tu ti pravis gresku koju ne kontas.
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#262 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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SamoVasGledam wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
SamoVasGledam wrote: A ajet 21:103?
Isto i to, tu stoji Yewmukum Vasdan tj Vas dan, zajedno, ne racuna se u ovih obicnih Yewm - dan.
Zahvaljujem, još samo jedno pitanje - 27:89?
(27:89:10) yawmeizin , (of) thatDay مَنْ جَاءَ بِالْحَسَنَةِ فَلَهُ خَيْرٌ مِنْهَا وَهُمْ مِنْ فَزَعٍ يَوْمَئِذٍ آمِنُونَ

i to je dvorijec za dan, specificna forma u jednoj rijeci, to se ne broji, jer spada u Specificnu formu dok mi brojimo NESPECIFICNU formu.
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#263 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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JVC wrote: Druze Smrle, ja anlazirao onih 365 dana, ali ne po prevodu Korkuta, vec po "originalnom" Opet ne ide, nesto se ne poklapa, nisam dobio broj dana ni po islamskom lunarnom kalendaru :( Da je Alah u Kuranu svemoguc kao sto kazes, u prevodu koji je napravio Besim ili bilo ko drugi, trebala bi da se ocituje njegova savrsena rijec bez gubljenja svojih cuda. Ovako, not so much.
ne poklapa se zato sto mijesas babe i zabe, razdvoj babe i zabe pa ce ti se ukazati,

Sta ti radis?

Pa ti uzmes brojati zajedno specificnu formu i nespecificnu formu u jednini koja je 445 puta

ali ja od samog pocetka govorim jednu a ti trazis totalno drugo, zato sto ne pratis sta ti se pise, letis pred rudu druze....

Specificna forma singular je 80 puta , Nespecificna forma singular je 365 puta

jeli ti sad jasno?
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#264 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
Smrcak15 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
Kakvo dekodiranje? Pomocu gimetrie :?

Napisi na svojoj temi kako se konkretno dekodira Kur'an :)
Kur'an je vise slojevito programiran, jednostavno, srednje komplicirano, extremno komplicirano itd

a sto se tice dekodiranja brojcanih vrijednosti koriosti se tabela abjad sistema koji je ustanovljen jos prije islama
http://masjidtucson.org/quran/appendices/app01_GVs.gif
pa to ( aplhabet code, star 10 i duze stoljeca p.n.e.) su takodjer, znanto ranije primjenili i Jevreji :D gmatria-kabalisticki metod za analizu hebrejskog alfabeta, 2 stoljeca prije nove ere :) sistem dekoridanja kod starih naorda je poceo 15 stoljece p.n.e., a npr. Sufije su radile numericko dekodiranje Kur'an :)

zasto naucna otkrica nisu ranije dekodriana, a potom primjenjena prije primjene novih naucnih metoda :)
to sto je neko dekodirao nesto prije Kur'ana ne umanje znacaj kodiranja Kur'ana.
zasto naucna otkrica nisu ranije dekodriana, a potom primjenjena prije primjene novih naucnih metoda
zato sto nisu kodiranja uradjena da bi se sa njima otkrivale nove stvari jer nije to poenta Kur'ana, poenta je ono sto je licno Bog rekao u Kur'anu a to je da pokaziva dokaze da bi se ljudi uvjerili da je Kur'an istina od Njega, a ne da bi sa njim dekodirali stvari.

Druga stvar, previse je kompleksno da bi se moglo dekodirati pomocu Kur'ana.

pogledaj samo 11 sept kodiranje pa ces vidjeti da je to nemoguce otkriti prije nego se desi kad se desi ukaze se veliko kodiranje tog buduceg dogadjaja gdje se prijasnji dogadjaj prikopcaje brojcano za buduci dogadjaj odabirom rijeci, slova, pozicije ajeta, pozicije sura itd
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#265 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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JVC wrote: Zamisli da ja otvorim zasebnu temu o brojčanim čudima iz Biblije?
pa izvoli ako imas sta ponudit otvori pa cemo svi zajedno analizirati
nesmatram da ima brojcanih cuda u bibliji, jer sam previse diskusija imao sa krscanima i niko od njih mi nije ni djelic brojcanih cuda ponudio iz biblije a kamoli da bi se otvarala tema za nesto sto nema.
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http://miraclesonpaper.blogspot.ba/
This awsome first verse is the most coded words in existance i believe; but it is the first lesson in God's coding (Not numerology). God's Codes in the Bible are in several layers.
Ha hebemu.. na sta me podsjeca cijela ona stranica.. pogotovo ovo boldirani... na vrh mi jezika.. poznato mi je, ali nikako onako jasno da se sjetim... mozda ako promijenim jednu rijec u recenici postane jasnije... :lol:
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#267 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Smrcak15 wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
pa to ( aplhabet code, star 10 i duze stoljeca p.n.e.) su takodjer, znanto ranije primjenili i Jevreji :D gmatria-kabalisticki metod za analizu hebrejskog alfabeta, 2 stoljeca prije nove ere :) sistem dekoridanja kod starih naorda je poceo 15 stoljece p.n.e., a npr. Sufije su radile numericko dekodiranje Kur'an :)

zasto naucna otkrica nisu ranije dekodriana, a potom primjenjena prije primjene novih naucnih metoda :)
to sto je neko dekodirao nesto prije Kur'ana ne umanje znacaj kodiranja Kur'ana.
zasto naucna otkrica nisu ranije dekodriana, a potom primjenjena prije primjene novih naucnih metoda
zato sto nisu kodiranja uradjena da bi se sa njima otkrivale nove stvari jer nije to poenta Kur'ana, poenta je ono sto je licno Bog rekao u Kur'anu a to je da pokaziva dokaze da bi se ljudi uvjerili da je Kur'an istina od Njega, a ne da bi sa njim dekodirali stvari.

Druga stvar, previse je kompleksno da bi se moglo dekodirati pomocu Kur'ana.

pogledaj samo 11 sept kodiranje pa ces vidjeti da je to nemoguce otkriti prije nego se desi kad se desi ukaze se veliko kodiranje tog buduceg dogadjaja gdje se prijasnji dogadjaj prikopcaje brojcano za buduci dogadjaj odabirom rijeci, slova, pozicije ajeta, pozicije sura itd
pa ne pisem u vrijednosti Kur'an, vec, pisem , da su prethdne generacije dekodirale svoje svete skripte :) znaci, sve svete skripte su proizvod Boga, a ne ljudi :)

"previse kompleksno da bi se nesto dekodiralo unpared" , a to si izmislio :D metode i tehnike dekodrianja su se mjenjale stoljecima , i postavlja se pitanje, kako i koliko metoda je promjenjneo prije standradizacije istih ;-) kosntano mjenjanje metoda ili ubacivanjem novih tehnika dekodiranja sa ciljem otkirvanja tajnih poruka vezanih za naucnih otkrica je obicno eksperimentiranje :)

ponavljam: naucna otkrica u svetim skriptama su otkivrena znatno ranije,a drugo, ponavljam ti vec vise puta, religija i tadsanja nauka su bile dio izuvanja prirode , a sve je bilo u sklopu filozofije , zato ne mozes odvajati tadasnju religiju i nauku, kao sto je danasnja modenra nauka odvojena od religije :)

psotoji vise opcija za analiziranje rada starih civiliacija kao i njihove sviesti o postojanju Boga i njihovog posmatranja desavanja u prirodi :)

ti konstatno pokusvas metodu dekodiranja upotrjebiti kao dokaz da je Sveta Knjiga proizovd Bozije rijeci , jer je to tvoj sistem vjerovanja, no mnogi vjeruju u Boga na potpuno drugaciji nacin :) pusti narod da vjeruje u Boga na vise nacina ,jer nije tvoj sistem vjerovanja iskljucvo najbolji jer tebi tako odgovora :) shvati,vjerovati u Boga se moze i bez trazenja dokaza dekodiranjem :)
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Dope_Man wrote:http://miraclesonpaper.blogspot.ba/
This awsome first verse is the most coded words in existance i believe; but it is the first lesson in God's coding (Not numerology). God's Codes in the Bible are in several layers.
Ha hebemu.. na sta me podsjeca cijela ona stranica.. pogotovo ovo boldirani... na vrh mi jezika.. poznato mi je, ali nikako onako jasno da se sjetim... mozda ako promijenim jednu rijec u recenici postane jasnije... :lol:
Ista škola, isti stil... Da je u pitanju ista religija rekao bih da je jedan čovek sve to ispisao!
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Nakon svega napisanog, jedino sto mogu izjaviti jeste da je Smrle (ne)NAČIFICEPS u svakom pogledu.
Vrli scientist , oprostite mojoj malenkosti jer Vas nisam prepoznao.

Ne tako davno bacena je jedna fatva:
Transcript:
"The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheis deserving of punishment" - Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz, supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia, 1993

Toliko o naucnim i brojcanim cudima Kurana.
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JVC wrote: Ne tako davno bacena je jedna fatva:
:lol:

Vokabular pravog hrišćanina:...bačena je fatva :mrgreen:

Ili anatema...Ili prokletstvo...Čarolija je bačena na celo selo...Kocka je bačena...
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arzuhal wrote:
JVC wrote: Ne tako davno bacena je jedna fatva:
:lol:

Vokabular pravog hrišćanina:...bačena je fatva :mrgreen:

Ili anatema...Ili prokletstvo...Čarolija je bačena na celo selo...Kocka je bačena...
Diskutabilno ali hajde (moras se maknuti od tog Gorskog vijenca), katolici i muslimani imaju toliko slicnosti da je to cudo jedno. Znaci bacanje fatve ili anateme je jedno te isto.
Ko je vodio "svete" ratove, samo muslimani i rimokatolici tj. Rim.
Pa cak is sam Muhamed kaze sljedece: " Bit ćete najbogatiji od svih žena u Raju, nakon Marije ." to nakon sto je Fatima "preselila" U-Haul :D
Marija je za muslimane prava Sayyida, ili Gospa. Pametnome dosta.
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#272 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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SamoVasGledam wrote:
Dope_Man wrote:http://miraclesonpaper.blogspot.ba/
This awsome first verse is the most coded words in existance i believe; but it is the first lesson in God's coding (Not numerology). God's Codes in the Bible are in several layers.
Ha hebemu.. na sta me podsjeca cijela ona stranica.. pogotovo ovo boldirani... na vrh mi jezika.. poznato mi je, ali nikako onako jasno da se sjetim... mozda ako promijenim jednu rijec u recenici postane jasnije... :lol:
Ista škola, isti stil... Da je u pitanju ista religija rekao bih da je jedan čovek sve to ispisao!
Da, i to je zato sto u pozadini i jeste isti mentalni sklop, samo je, igrom slucaja, jedan postao vjernik opcije A, drugi opcije B, treci opcije C.. i sad bi dvojica takvih do smrti mogli jedan drugog ubjedjivati, a ne vide da je ono sa druge strane njihov odraz u ogledalu.
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#273 Re: Brojcana cuda Kur'ana, diskusije, analize

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Dope_Man wrote:
Da, i to je zato sto u pozadini i jeste isti mentalni sklop, samo je, igrom slucaja, jedan postao vjernik opcije A, drugi opcije B, treci opcije C.. i sad bi dvojica takvih do smrti mogli jedan drugog ubjedjivati, a ne vide da je ono sa druge strane njihov odraz u ogledalu.
Ja ovdje nikoga ne ubjedjujem niti u bilo sta, sem Smrcka u svojim specificnim naucnim pokazateljima. A istim tim nizom kao sto si napisao, ateisti vrlo lako mogu biti opcija D, pa da isto tako ne vide svoj odraz u ogledalu.
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To se nije odnosilo na tebe, vec na cudotvorca sa ove teme i autora bloga koji sam postavio u svom komentaru a u kome neko na isti nacin, koristeci cak iste recenice kao nas cudotvorac, ''analizira'' Bibliju.

A ateisti bar ne tvrde da postoji ista, samo kazemo da nismo uvjereni u ''cuda'' koja nam se prezentiraju. Uostalom, u okviru ove teme radis isto sto i svaki ateista - govoris: ''Ne vjerujem u to jer ti dokazi nisu valjani'' u osnovi. Samo sto mi to govorimo i za ''tvoje'' na drugim temama.
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Dope_Man wrote:To se nije odnosilo na tebe, vec na cudotvorca sa ove teme i autora bloga koji sam postavio u svom komentaru a u kome neko na isti nacin, koristeci cak iste recenice kao nas cudotvorac, ''analizira'' Bibliju.

A ateisti bar ne tvrde da postoji ista, samo kazemo da nismo uvjereni u ''cuda'' koja nam se prezentiraju. Uostalom, u okviru ove teme radis isto sto i svaki ateista - govoris: ''Ne vjerujem u to jer ti dokazi nisu valjani'' u osnovi. Samo sto mi to govorimo i za ''tvoje'' na drugim temama.
Ja vazda za razgovor, ali bez razlomaka, pick and choose i ostalih matematickih cuda, bez specificnih i ne bas tako specificnih dana yawn (zijevanje).
Citiram:
"A little philosophy incline man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion."
- Francis Bacon

p.s Sad ce Smrle reci sto bas Francis Slanina :-)
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