Gdje se nalazi Švajcarska? Ako je vjerovati CNN-u, okupirala je Češku. Ili su opet pomješane Slovenija i Slovačka, Austrija i Australija... Ma, tipično američki!
Cijela priča je istina nešto starija, i desila se prilikom posjete ruskog predsjednika Putina Njemačkoj 2001. godine.
Portal 24sata.info je za ovu vijest znao još te 2001. godine no kako smo aktivni na webu tek tokom zadnjih nekoliko mjeseci, tek sada Vam prenosimo već kultni screenshot.
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BEZ KOMENTARA: Američki, nema šta!
- Ivy
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#1 BEZ KOMENTARA: Američki, nema šta!
- Ivy
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Evo jedne slikice po tvom ceifu komikomi wrote:ha ha
meni je najsmješnije bilo kada su pomiješali Hakana Šukura i Davora Šukera
a razliku između Ukrajinske i Poljske zastave im mogu oprostiti (dvije boje)
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weasel
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#5
dobra slicica nema sta...
Kada sam bio u Americi,pitaju me neki ameri sa kojima sam se upoznao odakle sam?Posto znam da su tanki iz geografije ,a da ne komplikujem, velim da sam iz Svedske.Kazu oni je li to tamo gdje se pravi dobar sir i satovi?Ma ne to je Svajcarska a ja sam u stvari iz Bosne.Iz Bosne pa sto ne kazes odmah..
Eto Bosna je poznatija od Svedske,ali na zalost po zlu i ratu ...
Kada sam bio u Americi,pitaju me neki ameri sa kojima sam se upoznao odakle sam?Posto znam da su tanki iz geografije ,a da ne komplikujem, velim da sam iz Svedske.Kazu oni je li to tamo gdje se pravi dobar sir i satovi?Ma ne to je Svajcarska a ja sam u stvari iz Bosne.Iz Bosne pa sto ne kazes odmah..
Eto Bosna je poznatija od Svedske,ali na zalost po zlu i ratu ...
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HAHAHAHAHAHA, perverzija kunem ti se!weasel wrote:dobra slicica nema sta...![]()
Kada sam bio u Americi,pitaju me neki ameri sa kojima sam se upoznao odakle sam?Posto znam da su tanki iz geografije ,a da ne komplikujem, velim da sam iz Svedske.Kazu oni je li to tamo gdje se pravi dobar sir i satovi?Ma ne to je Svajcarska a ja sam u stvari iz Bosne.Iz Bosne pa sto ne kazes odmah..![]()
Eto Bosna je poznatija od Svedske,ali na zalost po zlu i ratu ...
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#9
nije stvar u tomeAdri wrote:pitam se koliko nasih ljudi bi znalo gdje se nalazi South Dakota
stvar je otprilike dati nekakav zemljopisni položaj
ne brkati australiju i bečke dječake itd
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#10
Nije da i mi bas sve znamo, ali dosta znamo. Druga je stvar dokle ce to biti tako poslije predstojece reforme skolstva
Ono sto sam ja takodje primjetio su gafovi novinara. Talijanskim novinarima je u ratu orijentir bio Vukovar, a sve udaljenosti tacno 8o km od Vukovara
bez obzira gdje to bilo, Sarajevo ili Žepa.
U jednim novinama, pred pocetak godisnjih odmora, preporucuju strane turisticke destinacije i vjerovali ili ne ali za Tursku kazu da je opasna zbog kurdskih atentata jer im Kemal A. neda (prezent) autonomiju. Preporucuju posjetu Roterdamu sa upozorenjem na organizovanu prostituciju kao posljedicu pada istocnog bloka i komunizma
Ono sto sam ja takodje primjetio su gafovi novinara. Talijanskim novinarima je u ratu orijentir bio Vukovar, a sve udaljenosti tacno 8o km od Vukovara
U jednim novinama, pred pocetak godisnjih odmora, preporucuju strane turisticke destinacije i vjerovali ili ne ali za Tursku kazu da je opasna zbog kurdskih atentata jer im Kemal A. neda (prezent) autonomiju. Preporucuju posjetu Roterdamu sa upozorenjem na organizovanu prostituciju kao posljedicu pada istocnog bloka i komunizma
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#11
Upoznam jednog nadprosjecnog amera i onako kroz pricu on mene upita "kako je bilo kada su ruske snake napale Bosnu" a ja se suzdrza od smijeha i zaprepascenja nego mu onako ozbiljno zada spiku, reko ma nije bilo bas toliko loshe posto su urugvajske trupe preko kakvakaza stavile u nasu zastitu i borile za cjelovitu Bosnu....
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#12
Da citiram cijenjenog pisca Hemona:
"...Jedan od načina poimanja američke kulture su generalizacije. To rade ljudi kada dođu u Ameriku, ali i ovdje to rade ljudi, u susretima sa mnom. Govore, recimo, kako Amerikanci vole hamburger, a ne vole ostala jela... Takve neodržive teze... Ima 300 miliona Amerikanaca, i izuzetno su različiti. Neki su sličniji nama nego ostalim Amerikancima. Moja žena je Amerikanka i nas dvoje smo sličniji nego što je ona slična nekim Amerikancima koji žive u Oklahomi..."
Niko ne voli da bude generalizovan, ni mi Bosanci ne uzivamo kad nas promatraju samo kroz ratna desavanja i ratne zlocince. Preferiramo da budemo cijenjeni kao individue, jer kao cjelina bas i ne funkcionisemo najbolje. Tako je i bilo gdje drugo. Amerikanaca ima i glupih i pametnih, i ruznih i lijepih. Bas kao i nas.
"...Jedan od načina poimanja američke kulture su generalizacije. To rade ljudi kada dođu u Ameriku, ali i ovdje to rade ljudi, u susretima sa mnom. Govore, recimo, kako Amerikanci vole hamburger, a ne vole ostala jela... Takve neodržive teze... Ima 300 miliona Amerikanaca, i izuzetno su različiti. Neki su sličniji nama nego ostalim Amerikancima. Moja žena je Amerikanka i nas dvoje smo sličniji nego što je ona slična nekim Amerikancima koji žive u Oklahomi..."
Niko ne voli da bude generalizovan, ni mi Bosanci ne uzivamo kad nas promatraju samo kroz ratna desavanja i ratne zlocince. Preferiramo da budemo cijenjeni kao individue, jer kao cjelina bas i ne funkcionisemo najbolje. Tako je i bilo gdje drugo. Amerikanaca ima i glupih i pametnih, i ruznih i lijepih. Bas kao i nas.
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#13
hehe pa imamo stvarno puno slicnosti: pripadamo ljudskoj rasi
i eto kazu ipak zapadnoj civilizaciji
(ma ja bolan, kad vam ja kazem), njihova je zemlja sagradjena rukama kriminalaca, koje su istjerali iz evrope a nasi kriminalci daju svoje najbolje da se sagradi nasa dok se u evropu ne smije
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...a inace, pa naci ce se u 250 miliona amerikanaca valjda i 0,05 % ljudi koji sa nama mogu -
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...a inace, pa naci ce se u 250 miliona amerikanaca valjda i 0,05 % ljudi koji sa nama mogu -
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#14 "AMERIČKI SAN"
Amerika kao "PIŠTOLJ" država, u kaubojskom stilu, puca po svijetu lažnu demokratiju, lažni moral , i pod lažnim izgovorom : američki strateški -
nacionalni" interesi su.........bla.......bla..........bla......
Amerika je za mene jedan mega maligni tumor sa raširenim metastazama po cijelom svijetu............................
nacionalni" interesi su.........bla.......bla..........bla......
Amerika je za mene jedan mega maligni tumor sa raširenim metastazama po cijelom svijetu............................
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#15 Re: "AMERIČKI SAN"
Ja njihovu ulogu i prisustvo u, npr. BIH, jednostavno ne mogu smatrati nekakvom metastazom. Prije da su zaustavili metastazu Milosevicevog rezima. Sto i nije tako lose. Naprotiv, mislim da je ta njihova odluka da pomognu radije spasila hiljade zivota u dragoj nam BIH.margareta wrote:Amerika kao "PIŠTOLJ" država, u kaubojskom stilu, puca po svijetu lažnu demokratiju, lažni moral , i pod lažnim izgovorom : američki strateški -
nacionalni" interesi su.........bla.......bla..........bla......
Amerika je za mene jedan mega maligni tumor sa raširenim metastazama po cijelom svijetu............................
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#16
1 iz historije. Njihova je zemlja sagradjena rukama ljudi koji su se usprotivili crkvi, ljudi imigranata koji su u Europi umirali od gladi, miliona crnih robova koje su Europski trgovci dovodili, itd... itd...vee-jay wrote:hehe pa imamo stvarno puno slicnosti: pripadamo ljudskoj rasii eto kazu ipak zapadnoj civilizaciji
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(ma ja bolan, kad vam ja kazem), njihova je zemlja sagradjena rukama kriminalaca, koje su istjerali iz evrope a nasi kriminalci daju svoje najbolje da se sagradi nasa dok se u evropu ne smije
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...a inace, pa naci ce se u 250 miliona amerikanaca valjda i 0,05 % ljudi koji sa nama mogu -![]()
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#17
Zaimljiv osvrt (WSJ, 08/03/04)
What Respect Have Wahhabis
Shown to Muslim Monuments?
By MELIK KAYLAN
August 3, 2004; Page D8
Two weekends ago, a certain identifiable swatch of world community worthies -- United Nations and European Union dignitaries, Muslim princes and ambassadors, NGO officials -- came together in Bosnia to celebrate the reopening of the famous Mostar Bridge. It had been destroyed by Bosnian Croats in 1993, during the Bosnian War, to expunge a symbol of cosmopolitan Islam klix from 16th-century Ottoman times. Its destruction caused an uproar, and rightly so. Simultaneously, Bosnian Serbs were busy obliterating some 70% of the local Muslims' historic monuments. The Serbs then moved on to similar deeds in Kosovo.
The bridge's reopening had been a belated triumph. Under the aegis of Unesco, countries such as Turkey, Italy and Croatia contributed to the project for a decade along with town residents. At the same time, the town's old buildings underwent renovation funded by the Aga Khan and World Monuments Fund.
The Mostar Bridge offers a corrective to all those clichés about American disregard and ignorance of world culture, about American unilateralism (bad) vs. international consensus (good), about America's much-bruited crusade against Islam -- all so beloved of the Euro-U.N./Al Jazeera opinion bloc.
Under the Ottoman Turks, the bridge created ease of trade and mutual contact between Catholic, Serbian Orthodox and Muslim communities. That ethos ultimately proved intolerable to Yugoslav Serb and Croat ethnic cleansers. and were it not for American interventionism in 1990s, they would have prevailed. Muslims persistently forget that. It's worth remembering too that Americans intervened only after abysmal failures of Euro-U.N. consensus politics. Moreover, the World Monuments Fund contributed a fifth of the town's renovation cost -- almost entirely from private American donors. Simply put, without the U.S. neither the bridge nor perhaps Bosnia itself would exist now.
But that's only half the story. Crusade-besotted pan-Arab pan-Muslims, who were so outraged over the (non)events at the Baghdad Museum during the U.S. invasion of Iraq, should ask themselves: How much respect has the Wahhabi sect of Islam shown to Muslim monuments? It's a question that Al-Jazeeraites don't ever ask.
After the Dayton Accords in Bosnia and in postconflict Kosovo, reconstruction aid poured in from Saudi Arabia. Much of it went into Wahhabi proselytizing, bullying, converting and bribing of destitute Muslims. An austere desert sect, Wahhabism cannot abide what it considers idolatry, frippery, or nostalgia for objects in religious places. When forced by locals to renovate rather than supplant, the Saudis obliterated all historical highlights, interior decoration, turquoise tiling and the like in local mosques, ripping out and whitewashing everywhere. Like the Serbs and Croats, they forcibly purged what they considered alien -- only they did so within the precincts of their own religion. In Kosovo's cemeteries, weeping villagers often witnessed Saudi bulldozers destroying the marble headstones of their Albanian forefathers from the 14th and 15th centuries. U.N. observers considered it an intra-Muslim dispute beyond their ken.
So much for the Saudis abroad. What about the holy soil of Saudi Arabia, in Mecca and Medina -- terrain that Osama bin Laden so fiercely declared as threatened by the proximity of American infidel bases? As it happens, there the Saudi record is even worse, with the Bin Laden family in the forefront of razing and building contracts.
During the Ottoman centuries, Mecca and Medina became highly cosmopolitan, with many world Muslims of varied sects choosing to settle and die there. Their descendants often came to visit their ancestors' tombs. That sacred ground was the common heritage of all Muslims. It became Saudi property when the Wahhabis took over in the 1920s and, ever since, they have systematically destroyed all such sites, including the tombs of the Prophet's own family and companions. This always involved digging deep under the foundations to remove all fragments of bones. In Mecca, in the 1970s, they even tore down the dwelling of Mohammed's mother. A McDonald's has replaced it. To many eyes, even the Kaaba's Great Mosque of Mohammed has been utterly destroyed by total renovation.
Few Muslims dare to say such things publicly, of course, least of all Al-Jazeera correspondents. The monuments, though, or what remains of them, speak volumes.
Mr. Kaylan last wrote on an exhibit of British modern art at the Tehran Museum of Arts
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What Respect Have Wahhabis
Shown to Muslim Monuments?
By MELIK KAYLAN
August 3, 2004; Page D8
Two weekends ago, a certain identifiable swatch of world community worthies -- United Nations and European Union dignitaries, Muslim princes and ambassadors, NGO officials -- came together in Bosnia to celebrate the reopening of the famous Mostar Bridge. It had been destroyed by Bosnian Croats in 1993, during the Bosnian War, to expunge a symbol of cosmopolitan Islam klix from 16th-century Ottoman times. Its destruction caused an uproar, and rightly so. Simultaneously, Bosnian Serbs were busy obliterating some 70% of the local Muslims' historic monuments. The Serbs then moved on to similar deeds in Kosovo.
The bridge's reopening had been a belated triumph. Under the aegis of Unesco, countries such as Turkey, Italy and Croatia contributed to the project for a decade along with town residents. At the same time, the town's old buildings underwent renovation funded by the Aga Khan and World Monuments Fund.
The Mostar Bridge offers a corrective to all those clichés about American disregard and ignorance of world culture, about American unilateralism (bad) vs. international consensus (good), about America's much-bruited crusade against Islam -- all so beloved of the Euro-U.N./Al Jazeera opinion bloc.
Under the Ottoman Turks, the bridge created ease of trade and mutual contact between Catholic, Serbian Orthodox and Muslim communities. That ethos ultimately proved intolerable to Yugoslav Serb and Croat ethnic cleansers. and were it not for American interventionism in 1990s, they would have prevailed. Muslims persistently forget that. It's worth remembering too that Americans intervened only after abysmal failures of Euro-U.N. consensus politics. Moreover, the World Monuments Fund contributed a fifth of the town's renovation cost -- almost entirely from private American donors. Simply put, without the U.S. neither the bridge nor perhaps Bosnia itself would exist now.
But that's only half the story. Crusade-besotted pan-Arab pan-Muslims, who were so outraged over the (non)events at the Baghdad Museum during the U.S. invasion of Iraq, should ask themselves: How much respect has the Wahhabi sect of Islam shown to Muslim monuments? It's a question that Al-Jazeeraites don't ever ask.
After the Dayton Accords in Bosnia and in postconflict Kosovo, reconstruction aid poured in from Saudi Arabia. Much of it went into Wahhabi proselytizing, bullying, converting and bribing of destitute Muslims. An austere desert sect, Wahhabism cannot abide what it considers idolatry, frippery, or nostalgia for objects in religious places. When forced by locals to renovate rather than supplant, the Saudis obliterated all historical highlights, interior decoration, turquoise tiling and the like in local mosques, ripping out and whitewashing everywhere. Like the Serbs and Croats, they forcibly purged what they considered alien -- only they did so within the precincts of their own religion. In Kosovo's cemeteries, weeping villagers often witnessed Saudi bulldozers destroying the marble headstones of their Albanian forefathers from the 14th and 15th centuries. U.N. observers considered it an intra-Muslim dispute beyond their ken.
So much for the Saudis abroad. What about the holy soil of Saudi Arabia, in Mecca and Medina -- terrain that Osama bin Laden so fiercely declared as threatened by the proximity of American infidel bases? As it happens, there the Saudi record is even worse, with the Bin Laden family in the forefront of razing and building contracts.
During the Ottoman centuries, Mecca and Medina became highly cosmopolitan, with many world Muslims of varied sects choosing to settle and die there. Their descendants often came to visit their ancestors' tombs. That sacred ground was the common heritage of all Muslims. It became Saudi property when the Wahhabis took over in the 1920s and, ever since, they have systematically destroyed all such sites, including the tombs of the Prophet's own family and companions. This always involved digging deep under the foundations to remove all fragments of bones. In Mecca, in the 1970s, they even tore down the dwelling of Mohammed's mother. A McDonald's has replaced it. To many eyes, even the Kaaba's Great Mosque of Mohammed has been utterly destroyed by total renovation.
Few Muslims dare to say such things publicly, of course, least of all Al-Jazeera correspondents. The monuments, though, or what remains of them, speak volumes.
Mr. Kaylan last wrote on an exhibit of British modern art at the Tehran Museum of Arts
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#20
Sta covjek da doda na ove gluposti? Zbog jedne greske nekoga na CNNu Amerika je tumor, diktatura, zemlja mraka i kriminalaca, bla bla bla.
A nema veze to sto su Amerikanci izmislili struju, telefon, auto, radio, TV, avion, kompjuter, Internet...
Nema veze sto su oslobodili citav svijet u prvom i drugom svjetskom ratu, unistili komunizam, spasili Bosanske muslimane od nesudjenmog genocida...
Nema veze sto su otkrili lijekove za mnoge bolesti koje su harale svijetom...
Nema ni veze sto su njihova naucna dostignuca, koja oni djele sa citavim svijetom, zasluzna za gotovo sve sto danas znamo o nasem postanku...
Nema ni veze sto zahvaljujuci njihovim dostignucima u tehnologiji znamo toliko o svemiru koliko znamo...
Ma ja, nista to nema veze ali ima veze sto neko nezna gdje je Svicarska, sto su vodili pogresan rat u Vijetnamu ili Iraku.
Kako vas nije stid vasih gluposti i slijepe mrznje prema onima koji su zasluzni za toliko toga...
A nema veze to sto su Amerikanci izmislili struju, telefon, auto, radio, TV, avion, kompjuter, Internet...
Nema veze sto su oslobodili citav svijet u prvom i drugom svjetskom ratu, unistili komunizam, spasili Bosanske muslimane od nesudjenmog genocida...
Nema veze sto su otkrili lijekove za mnoge bolesti koje su harale svijetom...
Nema ni veze sto su njihova naucna dostignuca, koja oni djele sa citavim svijetom, zasluzna za gotovo sve sto danas znamo o nasem postanku...
Nema ni veze sto zahvaljujuci njihovim dostignucima u tehnologiji znamo toliko o svemiru koliko znamo...
Ma ja, nista to nema veze ali ima veze sto neko nezna gdje je Svicarska, sto su vodili pogresan rat u Vijetnamu ili Iraku.
Kako vas nije stid vasih gluposti i slijepe mrznje prema onima koji su zasluzni za toliko toga...
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#24
Poznato je da je američki školski sistem prilično labav..i da djecu u državnim školama ne uče nekim, za naše pojmove, elementarnim stvarima..ali mislim da je tema, opravdano ili ne, otišla jednim drugim tokom i to hoću da maxuz prokomentarišem..
Mislim da je bez obzira na sve njene mane Amerika jedan 'projekt' koji ne smije da propadne. USA kao zajednica nije ništa drugo nego CIJELI svijet u malom..ako vam je 300 miliona malo. I njihov suživot i njihova dostignuća nisu ništa drugo nego jedan pogled u budućnost na to kakav bi ovaj svijet mogao da izgleda ako bismo svi živjeli zajedno pod motom jedan svijet, jedna nacija, jedna država.
Mislim da je taj ideal vrijedan borbe i mislim da moramo biti pošteni i na sve njihove minuse obračunati i njihove pluseve.
Mislim da je bez obzira na sve njene mane Amerika jedan 'projekt' koji ne smije da propadne. USA kao zajednica nije ništa drugo nego CIJELI svijet u malom..ako vam je 300 miliona malo. I njihov suživot i njihova dostignuća nisu ništa drugo nego jedan pogled u budućnost na to kakav bi ovaj svijet mogao da izgleda ako bismo svi živjeli zajedno pod motom jedan svijet, jedna nacija, jedna država.
Mislim da je taj ideal vrijedan borbe i mislim da moramo biti pošteni i na sve njihove minuse obračunati i njihove pluseve.
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