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"Average" grad u SAD

Post by kustah » 17/06/2007 14:40

Nemogu da vijerujem da ovako nesto postoji i to jos u Americi!

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Post by sffovac » 17/06/2007 14:52

kustah wrote:Nemogu da vijerujem da ovako nesto postoji i to jos u Americi!

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vIjerovo ti ili nevjerovo, ne mogu oni imati i za vojsku i za socijalu
amerika nije hollywood, a bogme nije ni cnn

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Post by zenny » 17/06/2007 15:11

vidjecete za koji dan ovaj grad pun bosanaca, cevabdjinci i shitova :D

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Post by nineac » 17/06/2007 16:45

Sta se iznenadjujete. ja zivim u jednom takvom gradu sada.
fazon je sto raja ide u "suburban" dijelove.
Jebiga, to je amerika, nije sve New York ili Chicago!

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Post by DaysleepeR » 17/06/2007 20:39

Ne radi link

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Post by karanana » 17/06/2007 20:42

ne radi link

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Post by Ergot » 17/06/2007 21:00

Oprostite, jel' to mozda ne radi link? :D

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Post by jeza u ledja » 17/06/2007 21:55

link ne radi

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Post by karanana » 17/06/2007 21:56

Znaci nije samo do mene. Haj nam onda opisi sta je na slikama, pozitivno ili negativno?

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Post by black » 17/06/2007 21:57

de nemojte zezati zar ne radi :oops: :D

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Post by Vertigo » 17/06/2007 22:03

karanana wrote:Znaci nije samo do mene. Haj nam onda opisi sta je na slikama, pozitivno ili negativno?


ja bi ti opiso al ne radi link :(

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Post by zenny » 17/06/2007 23:53

slike nekog grada blizu chicaga koji se zove gary u kojem nema zive duse... ukratko :)

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Post by Nosferatu » 18/06/2007 06:34

Ako je Gary, Indiana, onda je murder capital of USA.

Najvise ubijenih ljudi na 100.000 glava, u Americi. Ne znam, da li je jos uvijek takvo, ali ko god je imao probleme bilo s kim - u Chicagu, odvezes ga fino u gepeku u Gary, ispraznis sanzer, i izbacis vrecu negdje kraj puta i bog te veselio. Dakle, sva mafija iz Chicaga se je obracunavala po Gary-ju, a i Gary ima centre gangsterske - sto s istoka, sto sa zapada, sto u Chicagu - Latin Kings-i.

Sve u svemu, ne treba se cuditi, u industrijskim gradovima, kad zamre industrija i prvireda, ko je konkurentan na trzistu seli drugdje da uzme posao, ko nije, ostaje i zivi u smradu i ciganluku u kojem moras ti nanjeti vise bola i stete drugima prije nego sto oni to ucine tebi. Treceg nema.

Al' ovo driblam na pamet, posto link ne radi.

Koga interesuje vise o propadanju Americkih gradova, neka pogleda film Michael Moore - Roger and Me. Govori o gradu Filnt koji je 60 milja od Detroita, i koji je na slican nacin, propao, i doveo svoje stanovnike, nakon iseljena GM pogona - dotle da su ljudi uzgajali i jeli zeceve, ovdje govorim o ljudima koji su po 3 generacije, svi bili "automotive workers" tj. radnici u auto-industriji.

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Post by Nosferatu » 18/06/2007 06:55

Gary, Indiana

84% Black,79.4 Homicides per 100k, & Murder Capitol of the World



Gary, Indiana: "Violent crime in Gary, Indiana, is increasing at an alarming rate. Last year, Gary had the highest per capita murder rate in the United States. BJA provided the city's Violent Crime Task Force with $112,000 to target, investigate, and prosecute individuals committing violent crimes with firearms in and around the city. Since the inception of the grant in 1994, 130 firearms have been seized, 98 investigations have been initiated, and 44 arrests have been made."

Gary, IN
Lake County, 25 miles SE of the Loop. Founded in 1906 on the undeveloped southern shore of Lake Michigan 30 miles east of Chicago, Gary was the creation of the U.S. Steel Corporation, which had been searching for a cheap but convenient Midwestern site for a massive new steel production center. The city was named after industrialist Elbert H. Gary, chairman of the board of U.S. Steel. Anticipating a large population of steelworkers, Gary Land Company, a U.S. Steel subsidiary, laid out a gridiron city plan, built a variety of houses and apartments, and advertised its new creation far and wide as the “Magic City” or the “City of the Century.” Real-estate speculators and private builders came to control the new city's south side, however, where shoddy building of small houses and barrack-type apartments contradicted modern planning principles and dictated rapid slum development. Partially planned but partially abandoned to land speculators, Gary quickly came to be known as one of the new “satellite cities,” or industrial suburbs, growing up in Chicago's widening orbit of economic influence.
Steel Strike in Gary, Indiana, 1919

The new Gary Works of U.S. Steel supplied the steel demands of the Midwest's expanding industrial economy in the early twentieth century. The city of Gary became home to a rapidly growing population of European immigrants, and, by the 1920s, southern blacks and immigrants from Mexico as well. The city's population grew to about 55,000 in 1920 and over 100,000 in 1930. Immigrants and their American-born children made up 45 percent of the population in 1930, while blacks constituted almost 18 percent. The mostly unskilled immigrant steelworkers came primarily from Southern and Eastern Europe—from Italy, Greece, Poland, Russia, and the Balkans—while the company's skilled workers and managerial staff were primarily English, Irish, German, or native-born. African Americans from the American South began migrating to Gary after the outbreak of World War I and the cessation of European immigration. In the 1920s, as immigration restriction became permanent, Mexican workers were imported by U.S. Steel to fill unskilled jobs in the mills. By 1930, over 9,000 Mexicans resided in Gary and nearby East Chicago, Indiana.

Throughout its first half century, Gary served as a testing ground for the assimilation and Americanization of European immigrants. By contrast, blacks and Mexicans were marginalized and isolated behind powerful walls of discrimination, segregation, and racism. Many of the city's American institutions—its schools, churches, workplaces, settlement houses, political system, and newspapers—focused on the struggle to Americanize the immigrant steelworkers and their families as soon as possible. Gary's nationally famous “work-study-play” or “platoon school” system, implemented by long-term school superintendent William A. Wirt, sought to Americanize immigrant children and prepare them for industrial work.
Land Sales in Gary, Indiana, n.d.

Gary's network of settlement houses and Protestant churches worked to Protestantize as well as Americanize the newcomers. However, Gary's immigrants established their own communal networks and ethnic institutions designed to retain language, culture, and custom. The conflict between native culture and immigrant newcomer was highlighted in the Great Steel Strike of 1919, when the mostly foreign-born steelworkers were depicted as radicals and revolutionaries—a portrayal used to justify mobilization of federal soldiers to put down the strike, ultimately delaying the unionization of the steelworkers until the late 1930s, when New Deal legislation protected union organizing efforts.

Gary grew substantially in the 1920s, as a native-born booster elite worked with U.S. Steel leaders to transform the city physically and plan its future growth. At the same time, ethnicity, race, and class shaped relationships among the city's diverse and socially fragmented cultures. Throughout the 1920s, the city's apparent economic prosperity remained dangerously dependent on a single industry, a condition that backfired during the Great Depression when the steel mills cut back production by 80 percent, unemployment soared, most banks failed, and the city government faced bankruptcy. The city was dominated politically by the local Republican Party until the 1930s, but an emerging New Deal political coalition prompted the ascendancy of a Democratic Party machine that retained power until well into the 1990s.

The economic demands of World War II revived the steel industry and pulled Gary out of the Depression. Wartime consensus shattered in late 1940s and after. Racial segregation and strife, labor problems in steel, industrial pollution, and political corruption (which had been persistent since the 1920s) earned Gary a national reputation as a troubled town. The city's population continued to grow moderately, reaching 133,911 in 1950 and 175,415 in 1970. But the composition of population was changing rapidly: African Americans made up 18 percent of the population in 1930, 29 percent in 1950, and 53 percent in 1970.

Population and politics were related. A succession of white ethnic mayors in the 1950s and 1960s ended in 1967 with the election of Richard G. Hatcher, one of the nation's first big-city black mayors. White flight to nearby suburbs had already begun in the 1960s, but Hatcher's election and subsequent confrontational style speeded the process considerably, paralleled now by white business flight as well. As descendants of European immigrants emptied out of the city, the population declined dramatically to 116,646 by 1990, while the proportion of African Americans rose to over 80 percent. With a secure black power base, Hatcher was reelected four times, an unusual record for big-city administrations, and served a total of 20 years as Gary's mayor.

Blacks anticipated better times under Hatcher, but disappointment gradually replaced political euphoria. The Hatcher years were accompanied by steel company disinvestment—Gary had over 30,000 steelworkers in the late 1960s but fewer than 6,000 in 1987. Hatcher also faced the consequences of national policy shifts as the urban development programs of the Great Society years began winding down under the Nixon and succeeding presidential administrations. Hatcher worked hard to reverse long-standing patterns of institutional racism and to initiate various economic development strategies, but the task was difficult given continued white political and business opposition to Hatcher's initiatives at the county and state level.

In 1987, another black Democrat with a less confrontational style, Thomas A. Barnes, ousted Hatcher and began two uneventful terms. In 1995, however, two black candidates divided the African American vote in the Democratic mayoral primary, permitting white attorney Scott King to win the mayor's office. Blacks continued to control the city council, which blocked many of King's proposals for governmental change and economic development. Created early in the twentieth century on a wave of optimism for the future, Gary came to exemplify in many respects the troubled state of urban America at the end of the century.


Gary, IN (inc. 1906)
Year Total
(and by category) Foreign Born Native with foreign parentage Males per 100 females
1930 100,426 19.3% 25.9% 119
78,992 White (78.7%)
17,922 Negro (17.8%)
2 Indian (0.0%)
13 Chinese (0.0%)
7 Japanese (0.0%)
3,486 Mexican (3.5%)
4 Other (0.0%)
1960 178,415 7.7% 14.7% 99
108,980 White (61.1%)
69,123 Negro (38.7%)
217 Other races (0.1%)
1990 116,646 1.4% — 85
18,995 White (16.3%)
94,013 Black (80.6%)
207 American Indian (0.2%)
145 Asian/Pacific Islander (0.1%)
3,286 Other race (2.8%)
6,282 Hispanic Origin* (5.4%)
2000 102,746 1.6% — 85
12,245 White alone (11.9%)
86,340 Black or African American alone (84.0%)
213 American Indian and Alaska Native alone (0.2%)
140 Asian alone (0.1%)
24 Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone (0.0%)
2,023 Some other race alone (2.0%)
1,761 Two or more races (1.7%)
5,065 Hispanic or Latino* (4.9%)

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Post by Nosferatu » 18/06/2007 07:07

Ako se pitate ko je rodjen i proveo ono dijetinjstva sto je imao prije slave, u Gary-ju, Indiani, odgovor je Michael Jackson.

Clip njegovog povratka, po prvi put u Gary, nakon sto je postao popularan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpvCWCUiI0k

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Post by melb26sa » 18/06/2007 10:09

Znam za ovaj grad jer je u blizini naseg. Jeste opasno ali znaju se mjesta gdje se moze i ne moze ici.

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Post by Deb's » 18/06/2007 10:19

Jako dobra tema :thumbup: , taman da čovjek spozna i drugu stranu amerike!


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Post by Crvena Tifoza » 19/06/2007 05:44

Nista gori od Detroit-a.. :lol:

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