Amerikanci odustali od dodjele ordena potomcima Draže M.

Duh sa sjekirom · Post by **Duh sa sjekirom** » 09/05/2005 13:25

Hvala ti boze

http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=264402

jacika · Post by **jacika** » 09/05/2005 13:33

pa naravno

gavrilo · Post by **gavrilo** » 09/05/2005 13:37

vuk ce da pukne...

Himera · Post by **Himera** » 09/05/2005 13:52

Fala kurcu srela konačno pamet i one blentave amere

gavrilo · Post by **gavrilo** » 09/05/2005 14:10

a pazi ove ...

Draza Mihailovic
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Dragoljub "Drazha" Mihailovich (Драгољуб Дража Михаиловић, also Čiča, Draža Mihailović), (April 26, 1893 - July 17, 1946) was a Serbian general who became a war hero in World War I and who later led the Chetniks during World War II. US president Harry S. Truman posthumously awarded him the "Legion of Merit" for the rescue of 500 American Airmen by Chetniks during World War II.
Gen. Dragoljub Mihailovich
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Gen. Dragoljub Mihailovich

Mihailović went to the Serbian military academy in October 1910 and as a cadet fought in the Balkan Wars 1912-1913. In July 1913 he was given rank of Second Lieutenant as the top soldier in his class. He served in World War I and together with Serbian army marched to Albania in 1915 during the long retreat of the Serbian army. He later received several decorations for his achievements on the Salonica front.

Between the wars he became a staff officer (elite of Serbian/Yugoslav army) and achieved the rank of colonel. He also served as military attaché in Sofia and Prague.

His military carrier almost came to a abrupt end after several incidents, the most dangerous one being the idea of dividing Yugoslav army along nationalist lines into (Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes), for which he got 30 days imprisonment. World War II found Mihailovich occupying a minor position of assistant to chief of staff of the Second Army.

Following the Yugoslav defeat by Germany in April 1941, a small group of officers and soldiers led by Mihailović refused to surrender, and retreated in hope of finding Yugoslav army units still fighting in mountains. After arriving at Ravna Gora,Serbia on May 8, he realized that his group of seven officers and twenty four non-commissioned officers and soldiers was the only one.

At Ravna Gora, Mihailović organized the Chetniks detachment of the Yugoslav Army, which became the Military-chetnik detachments and finally Yugoslav Army of the Homeland (Jugoslovenska vojska u otadžbini).

The first Chetnik formations led by Mihailović were formed around Ravna Gora on June 14th,. The stated goal of the Chetniks was the liberation of the country from the occupying armies including the forces of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Ustase (the fascist regime of the Croatia).

However, he decided against a mass uprising because of catastrophical Serb losses in World War I, in which the Kingdom of Serbia lost a quarter of its male population to the war. Instead, Mihailović gathered logistics in men and weapons, waiting for an Allied landing in the Balkans. A WW I uprising leader and former Chetnik himself, Kosta Milovanović Pećanac, opposed this view and opted for cooperation with the Germans against the Communists who ravaged the Serb countryside and caused the very massive bloodshed Mihailović wanted to avoid. Pećanac and Mihailović became rivals, both claiming to the Chetnik heritage and with Pećanac commanding a much smaller allegiance than Mihailović. Because of his open collaboration with the Germans, Pećanac was shot in 1944 by Mihailović Chetniks for treason upon his capture.

The British Special Operations Executive were being sent to aid Mihailović's forces beginning with the autumn of 1941. Mihailović rose in rank, becoming the Minister of War of the exile government in January 11, 1942 and General and Deputy Commander-in-Chief on June 17 the same year.

In 1943, the Germans decided to pursue the Chetniks in the northern zone, and offered a reward of 100,000 gold marks for the capture of Mihailović, dead or alive.

The Chetniks were forced to move to eastern Bosnia where they engaged in heavy combat with the Ustaše, resulting in several incidents of war crimes against people who supported the other faction. It is unclear however how much say Mihailovic himself had in these incidents. The Chetnik movement was highly decentralized, and in that way was more like a collective of many small regional guerrillas which shared the same name, rather than a unified army under complete control of Mihailovic and his staff.

By the middle of 1943, the partisan movement had successfully survived an intense period of Axis pressure, while the Chetniks had almost entirely abandoned anti-fascist activities in favour of fighting the partisans. Consequently, at the Tehran Conference in November 1943, a decision was made by the Allies to cease their support of the Chetniks, and switch allegiances to Tito's Partisans who were the main anti-fascist resistance group in Yugoslavia.

Towards the end of the war, Mihailovic went into hiding in East Bosnia. He was captured on March 12, 1946 by agents of OZNA (Odsjek Zastite Naroda - Department of National Security) . Tried for high treason and war crimes from June 10 to July 15, he was found guilty and sentenced to death by firing squad on July 17th. His body is believed to have been burnt and buried in an unmarked grave near Belgrade. His main prosecutor was Milos Minic, later minister of foreign affairs for the Communist government of Yugoslavia and an ethnic Serb.

His execution was a sticking point in Franco-Yugoslav relations and Charles de Gaulle refused to visit Yugoslavia on account of refusing to meet Mihailovich's adversary Marshal Tito, whom he accused of de-facto killing his rival.

Due to the efforts of Major Richard L. Felman and his buddies President Harry S. Truman, on the recommendation of General Dwight D. Eisenhower, posthumously awarded Mihailovich the "Legion of Merit", for the rescue of American Airmens by Chetniks. For the first time in history, this high award and the story of the rescue was classified secret by the State Department so as not to offend the communist government of Yugoslavia.

Prenj · Post by **Prenj** » 09/05/2005 14:20

Wikipedia je poznata po tome sto je uredjuje ko stigne.

Oficir s puzom · Post by **Oficir s puzom** » 09/05/2005 14:39

"Predstavnici SAD, kako tvrdi naš sugovornik koji je želio ostati anoniman, odgodili su predaju ordena, ali konačan datum uručenja Legije za zasluge još uvijek nije dogovoren. Na odluku američke administracije utjecalo je snažno protivljenje Hrvatske da se orden dodijeli četničkom vođi koji je predvodio kvinsliški pokret u Drugom svjetskom ratu", piše "Blic" u tekstu s nadnaslovom "SAD podlegle pritiscima Hrvata

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Cuj kose buni.,.. oni koji su ratovali na strani hitlera...

pitt · Post by **pitt** » 09/05/2005 14:44

Jes' vidio sto sam im zaprijetio

:D

pitt · Post by **pitt** » 09/05/2005 14:51

Cuj ide....mislis otiso je vec. CIm su oni i razmisljli o dodjeli ordena nekom ko je zlocinac iz rata ....jebo ti to. Isto vazi i za zapadne susjede.

flora.sa · Post by **flora.sa** » 09/05/2005 14:54

"Predstavnici SAD, kako tvrdi naš sugovornik koji je želio ostati anoniman, odgodili su predaju ordena

ODGODILI, ne "odustali".

Samo sada čekaju povoljnije vrijeme....
Koji su to licemjeri...
Dodijeliće oni taj orden, bunili se mi ne bunili.
Ma, i da cijeli svijet ustane protiv toga, ako su namjerili da ga daju, daće ga.

flora.sa · Post by **flora.sa** » 09/05/2005 14:54

"Predstavnici SAD, kako tvrdi naš sugovornik koji je želio ostati anoniman, odgodili su predaju ordena

ODGODILI, ne "odustali".

Samo sada čekaju povoljnije vrijeme....
Koji su to licemjeri...
Dodijeliće oni taj orden, bunili se mi ne bunili.
Ma, i da cijeli svijet ustane protiv toga, ako su namjerili da ga daju, daće ga.

flora.sa · Post by **flora.sa** » 09/05/2005 14:55

"Predstavnici SAD, kako tvrdi naš sugovornik koji je želio ostati anoniman, odgodili su predaju ordena

ODGODILI, ne "odustali".

Samo sada čekaju povoljnije vrijeme....
Koji su to licemjeri...
Dodijeliće oni taj orden, bunili se mi, ili ne bunili.
Ma, i da cijeli svijet ustane protiv toga, ako su namjerili da ga daju, daće ga.

Duh sa sjekirom · Post by **Duh sa sjekirom** » 09/05/2005 14:58

Oficir s puzom wrote:
pitt wrote:Jes' vidio sto sam im zaprijetio :D[/quo

pa oni koji imaju jasenovac u svojoj istoriji da se bune...

ma ovaj svijet ide ka svome kraju...

Ma jeste stvarno imaju i oni Jasenovac sta se bunite, dajte Drazi priznanje

Nevjerovatno ali jos uvijek se donekle iznenadim ovakvim postovima:?

Oficir s puzom · Post by **Oficir s puzom** » 09/05/2005 14:59

pitt wrote:Cuj ide....mislis otiso je vec. CIm su oni i razmisljli o dodjeli ordena nekom ko je zlocinac iz rata ....jebo ti to. Isto vazi i za zapadne susjede.

cuj jarane,... sto bi ameri dodjelivali ordenje zlocincima?

ako ima srbi tada nisu pomagali zar mislis da bi ima ordenje nudili...

ZASTO STE TAKO NEPOSTENI JEL?

Hocete da svijet osudi srpske zlocine a ako su srbi nekome pomogli to omalovazavate,,,

zbog cega...???

Prenj · Post by **Prenj** » 09/05/2005 15:05

Oficir s puzom wrote:
Duh sa sjekirom wrote:
Oficir s puzom wrote: Ma jeste stvarno imaju i oni Jasenovac sta se bunite, dajte Drazi priznanje

Nevjerovatno ali jos uvijek se donekle iznenadim ovakvim postovima:?

U jasenovcu su klali i tvoji sunarodnici Bosnjaci!

....i takodje bivali zaklani, kao i ostali antifasisti koje su ustase tamo zatvorile ...

Jedina moguca podjela II svjetskog rata je na fasiste i antifasiste.

Zadig · Post by **Zadig** » 09/05/2005 15:07

Prenj wrote:
Oficir s puzom wrote:
Duh sa sjekirom wrote:
U jasenovcu su klali i tvoji sunarodnici Bosnjaci!
....i takodje bivali zaklani, kao i ostali antifasisti koje su ustase tamo zatvorile ...

Jedina moguca podjela II svjetskog rata je na fasiste i antifasiste.

e jabiga prenj, ti bi sada sve da pojednostavnis, e ne moze.

oko cega bi se onda svadjali matereti?

Zadig · Post by **Zadig** » 09/05/2005 15:17

U jasenovcu su klali i tvoji sunarodnici Bosnjaci!

Oficir, ovo ti je definitivno najgluplje sto si napisao na forumu od kako si postao oficir. Stoga smo odlucili da te derangiramo na vodnika do daljneg.

Ponovo ces biti primoran uzeti testove inteligencije a bogami i kurs "kako replicirati na poruku a ne ispasti totalni glupan".

Vojna komisija ce odluciti da li ce ti biti vracen oficirski cin u dogledno vrijeme

At ease soldier

pitt · Post by **pitt** » 09/05/2005 15:18

Oficir s puzom wrote:
pitt wrote:Cuj ide....mislis otiso je vec. CIm su oni i razmisljli o dodjeli ordena nekom ko je zlocinac iz rata ....jebo ti to. Isto vazi i za zapadne susjede.

cuj jarane,... sto bi ameri dodjelivali ordenje zlocincima?

ako ima srbi tada nisu pomagali zar mislis da bi ima ordenje nudili...

ZASTO STE TAKO NEPOSTENI JEL?

Hocete da svijet osudi srpske zlocine a ako su srbi nekome pomogli to omalovazavate,,,

zbog cega...???

Ma boli me cuna kome je on pomogao.....zna se koiko ih je radi njega pod zemljom sada. Jel mu treba mozda sve halaliti?

Duh sa sjekirom · Post by **Duh sa sjekirom** » 09/05/2005 15:20

U ratu je bila jedna smjena na "osmicama" koja nas nije rokala pamovima i patovima ko ostale dane nego nako...povremeno osine koji rafal cisto nako preko krovova il u kanistere, zajebavali se.

Ima'l ko kaku medalju da'hina zakitimo zivota vam

Oficir s puzom · Post by **Oficir s puzom** » 09/05/2005 15:21

Zadig wrote:
U jasenovcu su klali i tvoji sunarodnici Bosnjaci!
Oficir, ovo ti je definitivno najgluplje sto si napisao na forumu od kako si postao oficir. Stoga smo odlucili da te derangiramo na vodnika do daljneg.

Ponovo ces biti primoran uzeti testove inteligencije a bogami i kurs "kako replicirati na poruku a ne ispasti totalni glupan".

Vojna komisija ce odluciti da li ce ti biti vracen oficirski cin u dogledno vrijeme

At ease soldier

ma jah... vidim da su ovdje sve filozofi....
sve sokrat do sokrata...

ne brini se ti za mene...

zna oficir sta prica...

nego jel ovo nije tacno sto sam rekao?

Toozla · Post by **Toozla** » 09/05/2005 15:36

preneseno sa Foruma B92:

http://www.b92.net/invboard/index.php?s ... 8567&st=30

INSTRUKCIJA DRAZE MIHAILOVICA MAJORU BORDU
LASICU I KAPETANU PAVLU DJURISICU

20.decembra 1941.

... Ciljevi nasih odreda jesu:

1.) Borba za slobodu celokupnog naseg naroda pod skiptrom Njegovog Velicanstva Kralja Petra II.
2.) Stvoriti veliku Jugoslaviju i u njoj veliku Srbiju, etnicki cistu u granicama Srbije - Crne Gore - Bosne i Hercegovine - Srema - Banata i Backe.
3.) Borba za ukljucenje u nas drzavni zivot i svih jos neoslobodjenih, slovenackih teritorija pod Italijanima i Nemcima (Trst - Gorica - Istra i Koruska) kao i Bugarske, severne Albanije sa Skadrom.
4.) Ciscenje drzavne teritorije od svih narodnih manjina i ne-nacionalnih elemenata.
5.) Stvoriti neposredne zajednicke granice izmedju Srbije i Crne Gore, kao i Srbije i Slovenije ciscenjem Sandzaka od Muslimanskog zivlja i Bosne od Muslimanskog i Hrvatskog zivlja.
6.) Kazniti sve Ustase i Muslimane koji su u tragicnim danima nemilorsdno unistavali nas narod.
7.) Kazniti sve one koji su krivi za nasu aprilsku katastrofu.
8.) U krajevima ociscenim od narodnih manjina i ne-nacionalnih elemenata izvrsiti naseljavanje Crnogorcima (u obzir dolaze siromasne nacionalno ispravne i postene porodice) ...
Sa Komunistima - partizanima ne moze biti nikakove saradnje jer se oni bore protiv dinastije i za ostvarenje socijalne revolucije, sto nikada nesme. biti nas ciij, jer smo mi jedino i iskljucivo samo vojimci i borci za Kralja, Otadzbinu i i slobodan narod.
Postupak: sa Arnautima, Muslimanima i Ustasama prema njihovim zaslugama za njihova gnusna nedela prema nasem zivlju tj. iste treba prepustiti »Narodnom sudu«?!
Prema Hrvatima koji su pod okupacijom Italijana postupiti prema njihovom drzanju u danom trenutku.

edu · Post by **edu** » 09/05/2005 16:57

mozda ni cetnik draza ne bi zelio primiti orden iz ruku teroriste busha..da je bog dao da i ovaj drugi bude pod zemljom...

stardust3003 · Post by **stardust3003** » 09/05/2005 20:22

Da..potvrdjeno...
Predlazem demonstracije odn. protest ispred americke ambasade!!!!!

Prenj · Post by **Prenj** » 09/05/2005 20:24

stardust3003 wrote:Da..potvrdjeno...
Predlazem demonstracije odn. protest ispred americke ambasade!!!!!

A da za pocetak malo strajkujemo ispred Predsjednistva?
Tamo je zivi predstavnik cetnickog pokreta, koji je cak i clan Predsjednistva, pored toga sto je i cetnik.

RPM · Post by **RPM** » 09/05/2005 21:33

oj matero, ima orden ko i dodijelit' ...

... od zla oca, gore matere ...

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