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daddy-kool wrote:@Gojeni H
I da i ne. Daleko od toga da evropljani predstavljaju potpuno zdrava, vitalna i moralna društva, nije mi bila namjera porediti ih sa USA. Amerika je imala veliku nesreću da dobije dva mandata krkanske administracije GW Busha, koji su je odveli u dva rata, mučenje zarobljenika i Guantanamo, otmice i tajne deportacije po cijelom svijetu, zavadili sa pola svijeta, uvalili u bailout posrnulih banaka i osiguravajućih društava. Posije toga dolazi Obama, kojem daju Nobelovu nagradu zato što nije Bush i zato što je crn (a to govori više o evropljanima), koji bukvalno nastavlja sa preuzetom spoljnom politikom i ekonomskim programom. Pokušava se izvući iz ratova, ali to ide kilavo, pa i on ima svoje afere sa ubistvima putem dronova, prisluškivanjem svega i svačega, svoje prste ima u arapskom proljeću, Libiji, Siriji, Ukrajini, Gruziji (ili je to bio Bush?). Niko sa Wall Streeta ne ide u zatvor.

Dugo je Amerika insistirala na svojoj moralnoj superiornosti (a to im je btw i u constitution kao bitan sastojak postojanja ovakve države) i pravednoj ulozi u svijetu. To je naravno uvijek bila iluzija. Nije problem ljudima se nekada i patiti, ako vide da imaju razlog za tu patnju, a taj razlog mora biti moralne prirode. Hipici nisu bili samo droga i rnr, nego su tražili društvene promjene, te na neki način i duhovno i moralno uzdignuće. Ta duhovna reakcija nedostaje u ovom vremenu, što ne znači da se neće eventualno pojaviti.

Psihologiju o superherojima u filmovima ne bih znao komentarisati, ali upravu je da tu nešto ima.
Sve je tako. Ali, "moralna superiornost" je uvijek bila upitna, od Teksasa preko Kariba do Filipina, uvijek je neko ronio suze iza Amerikanaca.
Jedan dio stanovnistva, ili progresivnog dijela mislilaca je uvijek zeljela da razmislja o Americi kao, ne samo zemlji mogucnosti, vec i zemlji pravednosti.

Ja nisam govorio o pravednosti. U SAD se nisu desila nikakva djeca cvijeca nakon Iraka. Ali se ni u Evropi, osim izolovanih slucajeva, nisu desile nikakve znacajnije demonstracije ili stvorio pokret nakon bombardovanja Libije.
Nisam vidio cak ni promjene frizura u Francuskoj, Italiji i Norveskoj. Svijet je danas ovakav kakav je, tu se nista ne moze uciniti.

Govorio sam o dekadenciji drustva u smislu ideala za koje se jedna zajednica bori. Zapad Evrope je to izgubio, mozda nepovratno.
U SAD-u, jos uvijek postoji jak ideal, ne o zemlji slobode bla-bla, vec o najjacoj zemlji cije granice izlaze na 2 okeana.
SAD sigurno moralno posrcu, ali ponovo cu to reci, proteci ce potoci krvi po Evropi prije nego dodje do bilo kakve ozbiljnije opasnosti po Imperiju.
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#1402 Re: AMERIKA

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Avetinho wrote:
Putnik ali stvarno wrote:Ej stvarno dosta vise ovih putincadi daj da podastremo dokaze Snjeskove izdaje,

sta je prodao I koliko je zaradio na izdaji, dok je prodavao drzavu za veceru ?

Avetinho its your turn :novine:
Prodao drzavu, zaradio veceru, vec sam ranije napisao.
To je jasno, nego

sta je prodao I za koje novce ?

Ovako izgleda poprilicno kao dole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJBiR4eG1oA
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http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... ard-russia
U.S. Comprehensive Strategy Toward Russia

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Issue: Russian Influence in the Balkans, Greece, and Cyprus

Problem. While security in the Balkans region has improved dramatically since the 1990s, sectarian divisions remain and have been exacerbated by sluggish economies, high unemployment rates, and political corruption. Moscow has exploited these tensions to advance a pro-Russia agenda with the goal of keeping these countries out of the transatlantic community.

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Serbia. In 2014, Serbia and Russia signed a strategic partnership agreement on economic issues, but Russia’s recent decision to scrap the South Stream gas pipeline is a blow to Serbia and will likely cost Serbia billions of euros of inward investment and thousands of local jobs. Despite these developments, Russia signed an agreement with Serbia to allow the basing of Russian soldiers at Niš airport, which Serbia has used to meddle in northern Kosovo.[28]

Bosnia and Herzegovina. Bosnia and Herzegovina is on the path to joining the transatlantic community, but has a long way to go. It negotiated a Stabilization and Association Agreement with the EU, but the agreement is not in force because Bosnia and Herzegovina has not implemented key economic and political reforms. Progress on full NATO membership has been stalled because defense properties in the country are not under the Ministry of Defense’s control. Moscow knows that the easiest way to prevent Bosnia and Herzegovina from entering the transatlantic community is to exploit internal ethnic and religious divisions.

Montenegro. Russia and Montenegro have had close relations for three centuries, and Montenegro walks a fine line between maintaining close ties with Russia while strengthening ties to the West. The country has been successful in keeping the nation focused on joining the transatlantic community, but there are signs that public opinion is losing patience with the West after long delays in joining NATO and the EU.

After Russia annexed Crimea, the Montenegrin government backed European sanctions against Moscow and even implemented its own sanctions. However, when NATO failed to invite Montenegro to join the Alliance at the September 2014 Wales Summit, some senior Montenegrin officials, including the prime minister, questioned whether sanctions were the right course of action.[29] Russia has significant economic influence in Montenegro and is the country’s largest inward investor.[30]

Greece. The victory of the leftist Syriza party (Greek Coalition of the Radical Left) in the January 2015 Greek elections has given Russia a potential ally inside the European Union. The Russian ambassador was the first official visitor received by newly elected Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras.[31] The shambolic state of the Greek economy affords Russia leverage inside Greece. Tsipras has called Western sanctions against Russia a “road to nowhere,”[32] which led to concern that Greece would block efforts to renew the sanctions when they lapsed in July, because all 28 EU member states would need to agree their renewal.[33]

Tsipras visited Moscow in April 2015 and signed an agreement for a “year of cultural exchange,” between the two nations beginning in 2016.[34] More substantively, Greek officials have signed a pipeline deal with Gazprom, which is controlled by the Russian government.[35] While Greece may be using Russia as leverage in its relations with the EU, the ideology and actions of the Syriza-led government are cause for concern.

Cyprus. Cyprus is a major offshore banking center for Russian cash and is still suffering the effects of its 2013 bank solvency crisis. President Nicos Anastasiades has criticized sanctions against Russia and visited Russia in February 2015. Russia’s agreement to restructure a €2.5 billion loan, which included an extension of the debt maturity from 2016 to 2018–2021,[36] may have played a role in the 2015 Cypriot decision to allow Russian naval assets regular access to its ports.[37] What seems clear is that Greece and Cyprus will remain prime targets of opportunity for Moscow in an effort to weaken the resolve of European nations to confront Russian aggression.[38]

Recommendations. The U.S. has invested a lot in the Balkans since the end of the Cold War. Tens of thousands of U.S. service members have served in the Balkans, and billions of dollars in aid have been spent there—all in the hope of creating a secure and prosperous region that will someday be part of the transatlantic community. As Russia attempts to undermine the political and security situation in the region, the U.S. should:

Stay engaged in the region. Russia hopes that the U.S. will be distracted by other international events and disengage from the region.
Stay committed to NATO’s Kosovo Force (KFOR) mission. Ethnic tensions are increasing in Kosovo, especially in the ethnic Serb areas north of the Ibar River. With the potential for conflict present, the U.S. needs to ensure the KFOR mission continues.
Work closely with European allies. The U.S. should work closely with its European allies to keep the Balkans out of the Russian sphere of influence. In this regard, close cooperation with Germany is essential.
Support a realistic approach on Greece and Cyprus. Greek alignment with Russia is a reflection of Greek anger at its Western creditors, led by the EU and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the straightjacket of the euro. By the same token, Cyprus’s turn to Russia partly reflects its resentment of the European Union, which prompted a run on the banks in 2013. The U.S. should recognize that a Greek debt restructuring is unavoidable, that the same is true of Cyprus, and that a Greek exit from the euro is highly desirable.
Crack down on Russian ties to Cyprus. Corrupt Russian oligarchs with extremely close ties to the Putin regime prefer Cyprus because its governance standards are low and its climate is pleasant, making it a convenient bolt hole and vacation destination for rich Russians. The U.S. should make it clear to Cyprus that its future lies with the West and push Cyprus to reject ties with Russia and upgrade its governance.

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Conclusion
Vladimir Putin has managed a remarkable feat. He has successfully fooled two successive Presidents of the United States—who could not have had more different personalities and political beliefs—into believing that he was, or could become, a reliable, and possibly even a democratic, partner with the United States. In both cases, the U.S. ultimately became disillusioned, but reality did not dawn until well into each President’s second term.

The United States cannot afford to be fooled a third time. Nor can it afford to approach Russia, and the problems it is creating, as though they are separate and unrelated. Naturally, no solution can address every problem. But at the heart of all these problems is a single one: the nature of the Russian regime. Clarity in U.S. comprehensive strategy toward Russia begins with understanding that Russia is not on a rocky road to democracy. It is an autocracy that justifies and sustains its hold on political power by force, fraud, and a thorough and strongly ideological assault on the West in general, and the U.S. in particular. The U.S. needs to approach Russia as Russia actually is, not as the U.S. wishes Russia might be.

In 1943, Winston Churchill, frustrated by years of Soviet complaints, perverted accusations of bad faith, and maltreatment, decided he had enough. As he put it, “Experience has taught me that it is not worth while arguing with Soviet people. One simply has to confront them with the new fact and await their reactions.”[56]

That is the correct course for the U.S. to follow toward Russia today. The U.S. has nothing to gain from seeking to argue its case with Russia. It should speak the truth, calmly show the Putin regime that the U.S. does not regard it as a fit international partner, and make clear that Russian aggression and hostility will henceforward carry predictable rhetorical and klix costs for Russia. It should then await the Russian reaction, and respond accordingly.
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Gledam ovu debatu republikanskih kandidata. Ovi ljudi su ograjisali. Opet će izgubiti izbore. Nikako da skontaju da se glasačko tijelo Amerike promijenilo i da presjednika više ne biraju 'rednecks' sa farma širom Amerike. Ono bi gradilo zidove između Meskika i Amerike kao što je Izrael uradio. :roll:

Izgubili su zadnje dvije utrke za presjednika i nikako da se opamete i promijene svoju politiku i postanu malo otvoreniji prema 'manjinama' kao što su to demokrate uradili.
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Putnik ali stvarno wrote:
Avetinho wrote:
Putnik ali stvarno wrote:Ej stvarno dosta vise ovih putincadi daj da podastremo dokaze Snjeskove izdaje,

sta je prodao I koliko je zaradio na izdaji, dok je prodavao drzavu za veceru ?

Avetinho its your turn :novine:
Prodao drzavu, zaradio veceru, vec sam ranije napisao.
To je jasno, nego

sta je prodao I za koje novce ?

Ovako izgleda poprilicno kao dole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJBiR4eG1oA
Koliko ti puta treba napisati

PRODAO DRZAVU
ZA VECERU
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Povijesna odluka: FED danas u 20 sati objavljuje odluku o kamatama. Šta ce biti s američkim dolarom?

OSAM godina nakon izbijanja financijske krize, koja je globalno gospodarstvo gurnula u recesiju i prisilila američku središnju banku na labavljenje monetarne politike, održava se sastanak Federalnih rezervi na kojem se očekuje odluka o podizanju kamatnih stopa.

Odluka će biti objavljena danas u 20 sati, po našem vremenu, a analitičari očekuju da bi inicijalno podizanje kamata trebalo iznositi 25 baznih bodova.

Tržišta u pozitivnom raspoloženju očekuju ovu odluku, te su američke dionice bile u plusu oko 1 posto, prinosi na obveznice su porasli, a analitičari ocjenjuju da bi odluka o nepodizanju kamatnih stopa, u ovakvoj situaciji uznemirila tržišta.

Ako dođe do podizanja kamata, američka središnja banka bit će prva koja se odlučila na takav potez jer je u Europi, Japanu i Kini još uvijek na snazi labava monetarna politika kojom se pokušava potaknuti gospodarski rast.

Iako se očekuje podizanje kamatnih stopa u SAD-u, i njihova monetarna politika, s obzirom na visinu kamatnih stopa koje se očekuju, ostaje vrlo labava, a može se naslututi da će i daljnji potrezi FED-a biti vrlo oprezni.

Kako će današnja odluka utjecati na tečaj američkog dolara?

Što se tiče kretanja američkog dolara, prvo podizanje kamatnih stopa nakon dugo vremena bi u uobičajenoj situaciji trebalo biti iznimno pozitivno za vrijednost valute, ali s druge strane, postoji mogućnost da je ta odluka već ukalkulirana u trenutnu vrijednost američke valute.

Naime, u posljednjem izvješću o pozicijama velikih špekulanata sa američkog tržišta futures ugovora vidi se da je velika većina špekulanata već prodala eure i kupila dolare, a nedavni skok eura skoro da i nije utjecao za pozicioniranje.

Zbog toga je moguće da bez obzira na eventualnu odluku o podizanju kamatnih stopa dođe do paradoksalne situacije – privremenog slabljenja dolara, jer na tržištu nema novih kupaca koji bi mogli svojom kupnjom odmah ojačati američku valutu. Slična situacija bile je prije dva tjedna kada je euro naglo ojačao. iako je donesena odluka o dodatnom popuštanju monetarne politike.

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/povi ... 62698.aspx
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BHCluster wrote:Image
Ako je tacno, strasno jbt. 320mil. stanovnika, za 12 godina ubijenih 400k. :-)
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Mlohavi wrote:
BHCluster wrote:Image
Ako je tacno, strasno jbt. 320mil. stanovnika, za 12 godina ubijenih 400k. :-)
Ima tu na dnu izvor informacija...
A za vrijeme 2. svjetskog rata ukupan broj poginulih Amerikanaca iznosio je 419,400.
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Načelnik glavnog stožera američke vojske:

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"Na cijelom svijetu, od svih država i organizacija, Rusija je jedina egzistencijalna prijetnja SAD-u"

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Challenger__ wrote:Načelnik glavnog stožera američke vojske:

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"Na cijelom svijetu, od svih država i organizacija, Rusija je jedina egzistencijalna prijetnja SAD-u"

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To isto kao kad izjavi Mourinho pred kup utakmicu sa Brentfordom da je Brentford ozbiljan protivnik.
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Mozda je ovo adekvatna tema.

Upravo se zavrsavaju prvi predizbori za dvije stranke za predsjednicke izbore u novembru, u drzavi Iowa.

Trenutno kod Republikanaca Cruz na 29%, Trump na 26%, Rubio na 20%, sa 37% prebrojanih glasova.
Kod Demokrata sa 59% prebrojanih glasova, Clinton na 51%, Sanders na 48%.

Kod D ocekivano, kod R neocekivano (za neke :D) Trump za sada gubi, a Rubio bolji nego sto se predvidjalo.
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Republikanci skoro zavrsili, Cruz 28%, Trump 24%, Rubio 23%. Poprilican poraz Trumpa, sto mi je godra pravo. :D Ali Cruz je uzasan na svoj nacin. Rubio jedini normalan od ovih, i on je dobio dosta vise nego sto se ocekivalo.

Trump je mislio da ce na ho-ruk, bez ikakve politicke organizacije uzeti. :zjev: U Iowi ipak ponovo pobjedjuje religiozni frik kao i do sada.

Sto se tice Rubija, moguce da ce se desiti neko koaliranje oko njega, kontra ove dvojice, i moooozda moguce da ce na kraju biti trka izmedju njega i Cruza. :o
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Valjda je vrijeme da neko od ovih republikanaca odustane. Previse ih je brate, nemoguce ih ispratiti sve. :run:
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jeza u ledja wrote:Mozda je ovo adekvatna tema.
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Rijec, dvije o Americi od Miljenka.
http://www.jergovic.com/sumnjivo-lice/s ... -u-oruzju/
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Danas primaries u New Hampshireu.

Ocekivano, Trump i Sanders uzimaju. Zakuhava se lagano. :D
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#1419 Re: AMERIKA

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Trenutna anketa Quinnipiac, radjena od 2 do 4 februara, na nacionalnom nivou:

Clinton vs Trump, Clinton +5
Cinton vs Cruz, Tie
Clinton vs Rubio, Rubio +7

Sanders vs Trump, Sanders +10
Sanders vs Cruz, Sanders +4
Sanders vs Rubio, Tie

Interesantno, ISTI taj poll:
Clinton vs Sanders, Clinton +2

:-)

Vrlo zanimljivo. Naravno prerano za izvlacenje generalnih zakljucaka. :)
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Trump danas: "When I'm president, we're gonna expend Gitmo and we're gonna load it up with some bad dudes." :lol:

Danas kad je Obama jos jednom, vjerovatno zadnji put, pokrenuo pitanje Guantanama, opet se vidi zasto je to jako tesko izvodljivo. Svi Republikanci se odmah javljaju necemo ih kaze u nasoj drzavi, a predsjednicki kandidati za njih - hoce lafo da ga prosire.
Nema veze sto je jos Bush 2008e govorio da ga treba zatvoriti. :-)

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je li moguce da postoji sansa da ce trump biti predsjednik?
pa on pljuje po svakom i lijevo i desno i dobija glasove.
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karanana wrote:je li moguce da postoji sansa da ce trump biti predsjednik?
pa on pljuje po svakom i lijevo i desno i dobija glasove.

ma nema on samse pored hilary i onog sandersa(kako vec) prvi ozbiljniji susret(debate) ono narod pita,., pokapace ga ovo dvojee,.,

jest da ima para i da moze kupit to mjesto al opet,., stavit onaku budalu da ima kontrolu nad tisutjama nuklearki,. pa gori od njega je samo putin ( i ovi nasi)
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#1423 Re: AMERIKA

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Ljudima u Americi je prekipilo. Bogati postaju bogatiji a prosjek prezivljava.
Ako Hilary dobije nominaciju demokrata ( a po svemu sudeći da hoće ) Trump uzima ove izbore glatko :-D
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prog321 wrote:Ljudima u Americi je prekipilo. Bogati postaju bogatiji a prosjek prezivljava.
Ako Hilary dobije nominaciju demokrata ( a po svemu sudeći da hoće ) Trump uzima ove izbore glatko :-D
Kome je bolan prekipilo? Sta kaze Trump; I love uneducated. Njima jeste, jer jbg. danas da bi zaradio moras ici u skolu.
Nedavno sam gledao dobar prilog o istrazivanju koje je napravio tip koji je pisao govore Jimmy Carteru. Zivio tip 10g u Kini, i odluci se vratiti u SAD. Rekao zeni: neznam sta cemo naci tamo, stvari haman nisu dobre, posto je na vijestima stalno prica: ljudima prekipjelo, sve propada, Kina dolazi.
Elem, on pilot, uzmeo mali Piper, i tri godine isao od grada do grada i pricao sa ljudima. Zakljucak: Drzava propada, ljudima je prekipjelo, ali nekako je bas ta zajednica ansla nacina da prevazidje probleme i uspije. I tak od grada do grada: svi su nasli nacin da uspiju ali ostatak drzave je u govnima.
I kod mene, stalno vijesti: berza ovo, berza ono, ljudi nezadovoljni. A onda lokalne vijesti: aerodrom mora povecati kapacitet zbog turista, nezaposlenost na najnizem nivou u zadnjih 20 godina. Cijene kuca stalno rastu. Drzava nikad vise poreza nije skupila, da mora sada vratiti 12 dolara svakom gradjaninu.
Kao sto rece onaj tip: percepcija je cudo.
A Trump? Cek da postane kandidat pa ces vidjeti kada ga krenu trehat oko njegove istorije.
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#1425 Re: AMERIKA

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Ljudi u Americi zele revoluciju zato biraju ekstreme na lijevoj i na desnoj strani.
Da im dobro ide nijedan od tih ekstrema ne bi bio toliko popularan.
Ekonomija je kljuc svega.
I u Njemackoj kad je Hitler dolazio na vlast postojao je veoma solidan procenat komunista u njihovom drustvu. Opet, zbog ekonomskih teskoca.
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