Americka razmisljanja o muslimanskoj 'solidarnosti'

[Volvo]

Hi Everyone,
My discussion thread from yesterday seemed at best to be mis understood, and at worst.... Hijacked by others (see Who's helping Tsunami Victims" Jan 2nd. I was in no instance comparing the US to any other country. My question was... and still is:

"Where are the Muslim countries when it comes to supporting Indonesia(a predominantly Muslim country)during this time of crisis?"

That was my initial question and concern, and it appears that some respondents felt the need to launch into pro American / Anti American /Pro Tsunami victims and the "let 'em eat cake" crowd. Worse than that, I was troubled to see people start to flame others for what appear to be heartfelt convictions, something that I'm not used to seeing here. I DID however, read everyone's comments. Thanks for participating!

Virtually anyone with a conscience is concerned about the dead and dying, and the abject suffering of the victims of this natural disaster. My question is still:

Other than Saudi Arabia (10 million dollars US) and Egypt ($81 THOUSAND dollars US)..... where is the help from the other Muslim nations? Qatar? UAE? Kuwait? Iran, et al? I'm sure that you can name others.... Australia? Helping. US? UK? Helping. Japan? China? Helping. Other Eastern European and Western nations? Helping. France? oh well... (couldn't resist THAT one, don't flame me please!! I think they donated $35 thousand)

So... if you know of any Muslim countries helping on their own, without the Red Crescent, please let me know? And oh yeah.... try not to hijack the thread with missives about how screwed up the world is? We already know that.

Thanks,
Crazy8s

[Volvo]

By badbadgirl on Monday, January 3, 2005 - 6:52 am:

the muslim countries will help the indonesians as much as they help their brethren, the palestinians ... NADA! they never put their money where their mouth is. the truth is, they don't give a rat's asss.

[livadic]

"Where are the Muslim countries when it comes to supporting Indonesia(a predominantly Muslim country)during this time of crisis?"

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cim nije za dzihad ...

... nema ni para ...



ne daju braca arapi za bilo sta ...

[manijak1]

Pa sad Profesore ne bih da u kontekstu te prirodne katastrofe da predvidim da će ova pomoć dobiti noge .

[imigrant]

Hi Everyone,
My discussion thread from yesterday seemed at best to be mis understood, and at worst.... Hijacked by others (see Who's helping Tsunami Victims" Jan 2nd. I was in no instance comparing the US to any other country. My question was... and still is:

"Where are the Muslim countries when it comes to supporting Indonesia(a predominantly Muslim country)during this time of crisis?"

That was my initial question and concern, and it appears that some respondents felt the need to launch into pro American / Anti American /Pro Tsunami victims and the "let 'em eat cake" crowd. Worse than that, I was troubled to see people start to flame others for what appear to be heartfelt convictions, something that I'm not used to seeing here. I DID however, read everyone's comments. Thanks for participating!

Virtually anyone with a conscience is concerned about the dead and dying, and the abject suffering of the victims of this natural disaster. My question is still:

Other than Saudi Arabia (10 million dollars US) and Egypt ($81 THOUSAND dollars US)..... where is the help from the other Muslim nations? Qatar? UAE? Kuwait? Iran, et al? I'm sure that you can name others.... Australia? Helping. US? UK? Helping. Japan? China? Helping. Other Eastern European and Western nations? Helping. France? oh well... (couldn't resist THAT one, don't flame me please!! I think they donated $35 thousand)

So... if you know of any Muslim countries helping on their own, without the Red Crescent, please let me know? And oh yeah.... try not to hijack the thread with missives about how screwed up the world is? We already know that.

Thanks,
Crazy8s

Hello dude what’s up?

Lemme first answer your question. Yeah, the non-Muslim world gave proportionally more aid money, including “infidel” America as well. In addition, I think US navy also sent two warships to aid and assist allocation of relief to the victims. Why that is case and why some of more prominent Muslim countries (read monetary healthier) did not help as much the religious and humane “responsibility” obliged them… I don’t have a clue.
Maybe some of them are more interested in aiding and abetting various terrorist groups than following Quran’s teaching on solidarity.

Now, lemme tell you something else. If you are truly a foreigner, I advise you to leave this forum as you will not be able to pursue the answers nor discussions you are looking for due to few reasons. One of which is language (though many of us here in deed speak this beautiful language) for example.

Best of luck and thanks for stopping by…

[freeman]

[nebi]

Jah.A vas i Rusa i Grka i Jermena(sve miroljubivi narodi) trista miliona i svima pomazete(Bosni,Azerbejdzanu,Ceceniji;Makedoniji) i svi vas vole.
Pravi kosmopolitizam.

[violentjack]

Jermena ima 3 Miliona
Rusa 150
Grka 10 i to je cijeli pravoslavni svijet

[manijak1]

Ko li tebe pomaže da tipkaš jebačine bez cilja osim mržnje koja je razumljiva DNK faktorom

[violentjack]

Kao sto se Rusima fucka za Srbe..zovu vas Cecenima a misle sve najgore o vama

[digger]

Hello dude what?s up?
Lemme first answer your question. Yeah, the non-Muslim world gave proportionally more aid money, including ?infidel? America as well. In addition, I think US navy also sent two warships to aid and assist allocation of relief to the victims. Why that is case and why some of more prominent Muslim countries (read monetary healthier) did not help as much the religious and humane ?responsibility? obliged them? I don?t have a clue.
Maybe some of them are more interested in aiding and abetting various terrorist groups than following Quran?s teaching on solidarity.

The "oil" money will always follow the arabian standard route: from one pocket to another. Some lucky indonesian will pick up cash from one of the Saudi's bagmen, pass a portion to the usual suspects in Jakarta, and pocket the difference.
And anyone who thinks this will not be a case, well... I have a few acres of permafrost in northern Ontario. Call me!

[zlata]

LET THE GRINGOS PAY! Empires are a costly enterprise. No oil profits will cover the costs of Bush's ventures and adventures. I am sure that this tsunami is the last thing the US budget needed. US goodwill for the tsunami victims? Yeah...to cover up the decades of BAD WILL, just about everywhere else. Osama is really making them PAY. (to the point where they are bickering with each other over insufficient $$ for the tsunami victims, right on prime time national TV). Finally, they really have to put their money where their mouth is.
Since when is the "Moslem" world a political and social monolith? Am I a part of some kind of "shadow" society...or a "para" socio-political entity?
Of course...we have become "Moslem" when threatened with extermination..but in the absence of such a threat...Islam is hardly a sole determinant of our identity.

[freeman]

[Engram::X]

Humanitarna organizacija Islamic Relief iz SAD je poslala pun avion pomoći iz Salt Lake Cityja u Džakartu. U njemu je hrana, odjeća, obuća, šatori itd.

Pored toga su u Acehu (Indonezija) podijelili pakete za 50.000 ljudi, a na Šri Lanki pakete za 10.000 ljudi.

U džamijama u državi New Jersey su u roku 24 sata prikupili 250.000$ za žrtve cunamija!

U Ali-pašinoj džamiji u Sarajevu su sakupili 4.000$!

[Engram::X]

Recent aid donations



Qatar - $25m

Saudi Arabia - $10m

Kuwait -$10m
Algeria - $2m
Bahrain - $2m
Libya - $2m
UAE - $2 m

[freeman]

E jesu se muslimani sirom svijeta i pretrgli da pomognu. Oni u Arabiji sjede na zlatnim soljama, a salju siću svojoj 'braci' u Aziji.

A ovo je samo trenutno stanje, jer zapad sve vise povecava pomoc.


Japan: $500 million.

-The United States: $350 million.

-Norway: $180 million

-Britain: $95 million

-Sweden: $75.5 million

-Spain: $68 million

-China: $60 million

-France: $57 million

-Australia: $46.7 million.

-Canada: $33 million.

-Germany: $27 million

-Switzerland: $21.9 million

-Denmark: $18.1 million



-Portugal: $11 million

-Qatar: $10 million

-Saudi Arabia: $10 million

-Singapore: $3.6 million

-New Zealand: $3.5 million

-Finland: $3.3 million

-Kuwait: $2 million

-United Arab Emirates: $2 million

-Ireland: $1.4 million

-Italy: $1.3 million

-Turkey: $1.25 million

-Czech Republic: $750,000

-Iran: $627,000

-South Korea: $600,000

-Hungary: $411,000

-Greece: $397,000

-Luxembourg: $265,000

-Monaco: $133,000

-Mexico: $100,000

-Nepal: $100,000

-Estonia: $42,000

[maraDONa]

obzirom da je Sandra Bulok sama dala milion dolara za stradale od cunamija ove donirane cifre "islamskih" zemalja djeluju smijesno

[BosnjakOdSanjak]

[victory]

Gradjani Australije, ponavljam, gradjani Australije su preko 'Crvenog Krsta', 'Care Australia' i ostalih humanitarnih organizacija do sada prikupili 83 miliona AUS $, sto je nesto vise od 90 miliona KM. Pare se sakupljaju, bukvalno, na svakom koraku.

Ako ovome dodam da ce australijska vlada najvjerovatnije izdvojiti oko 500 miliona AUS $ onda je sasvim jasno koliko su se australci kao nacija solidarisali sa narodom koji je pogodjen ovom nesrecom.

I sta sad? Jel' treba da se naglasava da su to krscani dali pare 'anamo onima'?

Dokle ce te vise prosipati ta kretenska prebrojavanja ?

Ja primitivluka, Boze dragi!!??

[BECHO]

E jesi ti bistar k'o boza! Najveci broj poginulih je upravo u Indoneziji, najvecoj muslimanskoj zemlji na svijetu a ti se ubi braneci Islam od zapadnih cafira i sex-turista! E moja konjino...

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Volvo je lijepo postavio naslov i zatim citirao razmi¹ljanja sa nekih drugih foruma. S kim se to dopisujete - Imigrant, digger, zlata?

P.S. "le¾ernost" u upotrebi engleskoj jezika me stvarno nasmijala...
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