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Ako je tacno, a izgleda da jeste, da je iste krvi kao i poslanik Muhamed

Lady Agora wrote:Pa naravno da mu je ženica dobra, pa jel Avduka kralj il nije.

Hashemite is the Latinate version of the Arabic , transliteration H im , and traditionally refers to those belonging to the Banu Hashim, or "clan of Hashim", a clan within the larger Quraish tribe. It also refers to an Arab dynasty whose original strength stemmed from the network of tribal alliances and blood loyalties in the Hejaz region of Arabia, along the Red Sea.

The Hashemites 2 trace their ancestry from Hashim ibn Abd al-Manaf died c. 510 AD , the great-grandfather of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, although the definition today mainly refers to the descendants of the prophet's daughter, Fatimah. 3 The early history of the Hashemites saw them in a continuous struggle against the Umayyads for control over who would be the caliph or successor to Muhammad. The Umayyads were of the same tribe as the Hashemites, but a different clan. This rivalry eventually would lead to the split between the Sunni and Shia. After the overthrow of the Umayyads, the Abbasids would present themselves as representatives of the Hashemites, as they claimed descent from Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib, an uncle of Muhammad. Muhammad's father had died before he was born, and his mother died while he was a child, so Muhammad was raised by his uncle Abu Talib, chief of the Hashemites.

From the 10th century onwards, the Sharif religious leader of Mecca and its Emir was by traditional agreement a Hashemite. Before World War I, Hussein bin Ali of the Hashemite Dhawu-'Awn clan ruled the Hejaz on behalf of the Ottoman sultan. For some time it had been the practice of the Sublime Porte to appoint the Emir of Mecca from among a select group of candidates. In 1908, Hussein bin Ali was appointed Emir of Mecca. He found himself increasingly at odds with the Young Turks in control at Istanbul, while he strove to secure his family's position as hereditary Emirs.

Sharif Hussein ibn Ali rebelled against the rule of the Ottomans during the Arab Revolt of 1916. 5 Between 1917 and 1924, after the collapse of Ottoman power, Hussein bin Ali ruled an independent Hejaz, of which he proclaimed himself king, with the tacit support of the British Foreign Office. His supporters are sometimes referred to as "Sharifians" or the "Sharifian party". His chief rival in the Arabian peninsula was the king of the highlanders on the highland of Najd named Ibn Saud, who annexed the Hejaz in 1925 and set his own son, Faysal bin Abdelaziz Al Saud, as governor. The region was later incorporated into Saudi Arabia.

Today Hashemites have spread in many places where Muslims have ruled, namely Uzbekistan, India, Pakistan, Turkey, Iran Most Hashemites in these countries carry the title Sayyid. The Royal family of the Sultanate of Sulu claims Hashemite ancestry currently in the Philippines. They are still influential over the Muslim population of the Philippines. Many members of the Banu Hashim have spread out across the world but so far there has been no attempt to register them all under one record. The Royal Family of Morocco also claims ancestry from Imam Ali but they do not use Hashemite as their dynastic name.

nista novo wrote:Lijepa je kraljica, ali kako ovaj ustanovi da je direktni potomak od Muhameda, to isto, kad bi ja tvrdio da je sta znam, spanski kralj direktni potomak Isusov

nista novo wrote:Lijepa je kraljica, ali kako ovaj ustanovi da je direktni potomak od Muhameda, to isto, kad bi ja tvrdio da je sta znam, spanski kralj direktni potomak Isusov

Lady Agora wrote:Oduvjek su kraljevske porodice i porodice visokog plemstva organizovale i plaćale genaologe da ispitaju i zabilježe
njihova srodstva i porijekla. Istina to nije toliko rašireno u islamskom svijetu kao u Evropi.

Abu FEED el-Castro wrote: Ako si pod islamskim mislila na arapski islamski svijet, shodno zadanoj temi, onda ovo sto si napisala nema veze s vezom. Rijetko ces naici na covjeka na ulici, u arapskom svijetu, da ti nije u stanju nabrojati pretke barem do 10-tog djeda, te odakle su dosli, emigrirali, otisli, itd. barem u grubim crtama o svom porijeklu.
Ako si pak mislila onako kako si rekla, dakle o islamskom svijetu, to je vec siri pojam i mi takodjer ulazimo u taj okvir i onda se nazalost moram sloziti sa sobom. Kod nas naprimjer vecina ljudi ne zna ni 3-ćeg ili 4-tog djeda
Ne znam kakva je situacija po pitanju toga u zemljama poput Malezije i Indonezije. Ipak sumnjam da je losa kao kod nas.