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#1 Three Cups of Tea - obavezno stivo

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Naravno ova knjiga nije objavljena kod nas. Koja steta.
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'Here we drink three cups of tea to do business; the first you are a stranger, the second you become a friend, and the third, you join our family, and for our family we are prepared to do anything - even die' - Haji Ali, Korphe Village Chief, Karakoram mountains, Pakistan. In 1993, after a terrifying and disastrous attempt to climb K2, a mountaineer called Greg Mortenson drifted, cold and dehydrated, into an impoverished Pakistan village in the Karakoram Mountains. Moved by the inhabitants' kindness, he promised to return and build a school. "Three Cups of Tea" is the story of that promise and its extraordinary outcome. Over the next decade Mortenson built not just one but fifty-five schools - especially for klix - in remote villages across the forbidding and breathtaking landscape of Pakistan and Afghanistan, just as the Taliban rose to power. His story is at once a riveting adventure and a testament to the power of the humanitarian spirit.

New York Times |
It Takes a School, Not Missiles |
July 13 2008
by Nicholas D. Kristoff

July 13 2008

Since 9/11, Westerners have tried two approaches to fight terrorism in Pakistan, President Bush’s and Greg Mortenson’s.

Mr. Bush has focused on military force and provided more than $10 billion — an extraordinary sum in the foreign-aid world — to the highly unpopular government of President Pervez Musharraf. This approach has failed: the backlash has radicalized Pakistan’s tribal areas so that they now nurture terrorists in ways that they never did before 9/11.

Mr. Mortenson, a frumpy, genial man from Montana, takes a diametrically opposite approach, and he has spent less than one-ten-thousandth as much as the Bush administration. He builds schools in isolated parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan, working closely with Muslim clerics and even praying with them at times.

The only thing that Mr. Mortenson blows up are boulders that fall onto remote roads and block access to his schools.

Mr. Mortenson has become a legend in the region, his picture sometimes dangling like a talisman from rearview mirrors, and his work has struck a chord in America as well. His superb book about his schools, “Three Cups of Tea,” came out in 2006 and initially wasn’t reviewed by most major newspapers. Yet propelled by word of mouth, the book became a publishing sensation: it has spent the last 74 weeks on the paperback best-seller list, regularly in the No. 1 spot.
Now Mr. Mortenson is fending off several dozen film offers. “My concern is that a movie might endanger the well-being of our students,” he explains.

Mr. Mortenson found his calling in 1993 after he failed in an attempt to climb K2, a Himalayan peak, and stumbled weakly into a poor Muslim village. The peasants nursed him back to health, and he promised to repay them by building the village a school.

Scrounging the money was a nightmare — his 580 fund-raising letters to prominent people generated one check, from Tom Brokaw — and Mr. Mortenson ended up selling his beloved climbing equipment and car. But when the school was built, he kept going. Now his aid group, the Central Asia Institute, has 74 schools in operation. His focus is educating klix.
To get a school, villagers must provide the land and the labor to assure a local “buy-in,” and so far the Taliban have not bothered his schools. One anti-American mob rampaged through Baharak, Afghanistan, attacking aid groups — but stopped at the school that local people had just built with Mr. Mortenson. “This is our school,” the mob leaders decided, and they left it intact.

Mr. Mortenson has had setbacks, including being kidnapped for eight days in Pakistan’s wild Waziristan region. It would be naïve to think that a few dozen schools will turn the tide in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Still, he notes that the Taliban recruits the poor and illiterate, and he also argues that when women are educated they are more likely to restrain their sons. Five of his teachers are former Taliban, and he says it was their mothers who persuaded them to leave the Taliban; that is one reason he is passionate about educating klix.

So I have this fantasy: Suppose that the United States focused less on blowing things up in Pakistan’s tribal areas and more on working through local aid groups to build schools, simultaneously cutting tariffs on Pakistani and Afghan manufactured exports. There would be no immediate payback, but a better-educated and more economically vibrant Pakistan would probably be more resistant to extremism.

“Schools are a much more effective bang for the buck than missiles or chasing some Taliban around the country,” says Mr. Mortenson, who is an Army veteran.

Each Tomahawk missile that the United States fires in Afghanistan costs at least $500,000. That’s enough for local aid groups to build more than 20 schools, and in the long run those schools probably do more to destroy the Taliban.

The Pentagon, which has a much better appreciation for the limits of military power than the Bush administration as a whole, placed large orders for “Three Cups of Tea” and invited Mr. Mortenson to speak.

“I am convinced that the long-term solution to terrorism in general, and Afghanistan specifically, is education,” Lt. Col. Christopher Kolenda, who works on the Afghan front lines, said in an e-mail in which he raved about Mr. Mortenson’s work. “The conflict here will not be won with bombs but with books. … The thirst for education here is palpable.”

Military force is essential in Afghanistan to combat the Taliban. But over time, in Pakistan and Afghanistan alike, the best tonic against militant fundamentalism will be education and economic opportunity.

So a lone Montanan staying at the cheapest guest houses has done more to advance U.S. interests in the region than the entire military and foreign policy apparatus of the Bush administration.

I invite you to comment on this column on my blog, http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground, and join me on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/kristof.

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Evo i intervjua sa autorom.




Nadam se da ce se na sajmu moci kupiti ova knjiga.
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knjiga je interesantna,ali nije uopste revolucionarna,zasto bi bila obavezno stivo :!: :?:
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Zato sto govori o najaktuelnijim problemima u svijetu i daje veoma dobar primjer kako se oni mogu rjesavati. Pored toga govori i o nesebicnosti jednog obicnog covjeka koji je odlucio da pomogne ljudima kojima nije morao pomoci, jedna osobina koju je vecina ''ljudi'' na ovoj planeti zaboravila u trci za gomilanjem vlastitog blaga.
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odrastao je u parama i sa roditeljima koji su takodjer humanitarno orijentirani,odrasala sma u parama a,i u mojoj porodici se npr. uradilo nekoliko usvajanja djece,sto bih licno uradila,znaci uticaj porodice je vazan,ako i mogucnost pomaganja ljudima,kuzis li sad moju poentu :)

inace,tip ima vrlo impresivnu biografiju,ali bi bez novca i podrske roditelja uradio znatno teze ili manje :)
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ljubav_aha wrote:odrastao je u parama i sa roditeljima koji su takodjer humanitarno orijentirani,odrasala sma u parama a,i u mojoj porodici se npr. uradilo nekoliko usvajanja djece,sto bih licno uradila,znaci uticaj porodice je vazan,ako i mogucnost pomaganja ljudima,kuzis li sad moju poentu :)

inace,tip ima vrlo impresivnu biografiju,ali bi bez novca i podrske roditelja uradio znatno teze ili manje :)
Dobro je da je imao takve roditelje, ali mislim da to nije bilo presudno da se pocne baviti ovim o cemu govori u knjizi.
I o kojem novcu govorimo ovdje?
Njegovi roditelji mu nisu finansirali niti obrazovanje na visokoskolskim ustanovama niti njegove alpinisticke poduhvate. Covjek je dao obecanje mjestanima sela koji su mu ponudili gostoprimstvo nakon gotovo kobnog uspona na K2, nakon cega se vratio u Ameriku i radio u Hitnoj pomoci negdje u Kaliforniji i trudio se da ustedi svaki peni kako bi sto prije ispunio to obecanje. Covjek nije rentao ni stan, nego je mjesecima spavao u autu kako bi sto prije dosao do tog cilja. Sve ovo govori da novac uopste nije bio presudan, jer ga na kraju krajeva nije ni bilo, i da je zrtvovanje na koje je Mortenson bio spreman zaista zadivljujuce sto i samu knjigu cini zaista posebnom.

Procitajte nedavno objavljeni clanak o njemu i njegovoj dvanaestogodisnjoj kcerci koja je pokrenula kampanju "Pennies for Peace" kako bi pomogla aktivnostima svog oca.

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ne znam gdje zivis,ali u USofA nije nista dzaba,pa ni ovaj gest,koji naravno jeste impresivan,ali projekat je ipak uradjen uz pomoc necijeg novca,nije samo iz njegovog dzepa,ali je njegova inicijativa naj-vaznija,logicno
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Logicno. ;-)
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ljubav_aha wrote:ne znam gdje zivis,ali u USofA nije nista dzaba,pa ni ovaj gest,koji naravno jeste impresivan,ali projekat je ipak uradjen uz pomoc necijeg novca,nije samo iz njegovog dzepa,ali je njegova inicijativa naj-vaznija,logicno
Ne znam u cemu je problem? Pojasni nam sta zelis da kazes ovim svojim kontriranjem?

Ja sam, recimo, dosta naucio iz Mortensonove price ali ne o humanizmu jer se on ne uci (poslije adolescencije).
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NIN,ne razumijem sto ti nije jasno :!: zar nisi procitao moje prethodne postove :?:
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Pogledajte intervju sa autorom ove knjige u okviru dokumentarca "Generation Islam" koji je nedavno za CNN napravila Christiane Amanpour.

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2009/ge ... index.html
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zimomor,jesi li procitao/la knjigu :?:

da li je bilo ko od pristunih na ovoj temi procitao knjigu :?:

licno,jos nisam zavrsila citanje knjige,ali cu vam kasnije napisati moje utiske o autoru knjige,kao i o njegovom radu :)
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jesam, i posudio je na jos nekoliko adresa da bi je sto vise ljudi procitalo
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ok,bilo bi lijepo napisati svoj stav ,umjesto podrske sa kopijom linko-va :)
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Mislim da sam svoj stav izrazio kroz prethodne postove.
Sta bi sa tobom, jesi li procitala knjigu u medjuvremenu?
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zimomor wrote:Mislim da sam svoj stav izrazio kroz prethodne postove.
Sta bi sa tobom, jesi li procitala knjigu u medjuvremenu?
nisam ,jos je na HALT-u,no shvati tip je odrastao u porodici koaj je putovala i zivjela u ralzicitim kulutrama sa ciljem da pomogne drugima,njegov povrakta u SAD,i asimilacija u drustvu cijeg je projiekla,a druga cinjenicna je njegova bliskost sa sestrom koja je umrla,a tu su sve kljucni momenti njegove odluke o pomaganju otvarnaj skola :)
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ljubav_aha wrote:
zimomor wrote:Mislim da sam svoj stav izrazio kroz prethodne postove.
Sta bi sa tobom, jesi li procitala knjigu u medjuvremenu?
nisam ,jos je na HALT-u,no shvati tip je odrastao u porodici koaj je putovala i zivjela u ralzicitim kulutrama sa ciljem da pomogne drugima,njegov povrakta u SAD,i asimilacija u drustvu cijeg je projiekla,a druga cinjenicna je njegova bliskost sa sestrom koja je umrla,a tu su sve kljucni momenti njegove odluke o pomaganju otvarnaj skola :)
Hajd procitaj knjigu pa cemo pricati.
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