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#1 Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 21/03/2009 19:46
by lola909
Pozdrav svim forumasima

Pitam se da li su neki oglasi na marketu zapravo ""navlakusa" i da li je to fkt tako? Rijec je o inostranim ponudama raznih uglavnom tehnoloskih stvari
po vrlo jeftinim cijenama tipa novi Macbook pro za 375 eura a u prodavnici kosta 2000 eura, jer trenutno znam momka koji se javio toj nekoj kompaniji u Americi koja je postavila oglas i oni su mu sve fino objasnili i sada traze da im se pare prenesu na njihov racun u western union banci. ? E sad on mene pita da li to da uradi ima novac ima sve potrebne info ja sam gledao taj oglas (http://www.market.ba/oglas/290052) i prvo sto mi je sumljivo (iskljucujuci veoma niske cijene) je to sto se oglas ponavlja 4-5 puta sto mi se cini kao spam ?

Sta vi mislite o ovome?

#2 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 21/03/2009 19:54
by sarajoglasi
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#3 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 21/03/2009 20:00
by black
ma to traje vec duze, evo pogledaj..

http://www.sarajevo-x.com/forum/viewtop ... 21&t=57499

#4 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 21/03/2009 20:01
by nivla
ma nek naruci ovaj IBM visekrevetnim dvd pisacem
salu na stranu ocito je da se radi o prevari

nickname:jebez

Mi smo vodeća distibutor u elektroničku komponentu as'''''PLAYSTATION
3,2,1, iPods, X-BOX, prisan drug, mobiteli, plazma TV, LAPTOPD i još mnogo toga.

#5 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 21/03/2009 20:03
by lola909
sarajoglasi wrote:Ni slucajno nemojte placati WesternUnionom,MoneyGram ili slicnim kompanijama! Nemojte pristati ni na direktno uplacivanje s racuna na racun. Najbolji je nacin Paypal jer ste tad stvarno zasticeni. Ti kvazi prodavaci ce vam reci da u njihovoj zemlji nema paypal-a. Ako Vam neko ponudi paypal,slobodno se upustite u to. Tesko je tek,ako vam pored svega toga posalje falsifikat. E onda nastupa drama vucanja po sudovima,a vjerujte mi da iz BIH necete nikada uspjeti to uganjati.
Relativno vam je sigurno ako neki prodavac iz inostansta ima racun u BIH. Ako vas zezne,postoji mogucnost prijave u policiji,pa se novac preko banke brzo vrati na vas racun.
znaci placanjem putem "money tranfera " sa mog accounta na njihov nije sigurna metoda jer postoji mogucnost da budem pokraden ?

#6 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 21/03/2009 20:10
by lola909
ma ja znao sam da je navlakusa :P ali fkt ima ljudi koji se zanesu pa naruce i plate, uglavnom pazite se !
Evo malo sale haha ja im poslao mail reko fol je ovo fake? jeste li vi lazni? zasto ovako jeftino? i gle odgovora :D
So i will like you to get back to us with your full shipping address so that we can register your address with the shipping company and ship out to your address on Monday.so we await your shipping address so that we can send to you our Western Union account details where you will remit the payment.

regards
Listen my friend....

It is true that this is not the real price of the product,the real price that we sell it to other buyers in Spain ranges from 1300-1500euros.But due to the fact that we are new on the website:(MARKET.BA)that is why as a marketing strategy we cut down the prices of our products so low so that we can get enough customers and associates over there in Bosnia.

We will give to you once you make payment of the goods the tracking numbers of the item which will be given to us by the shipping company so that you can track and trace your items.and also i will like you to know that you can trust us.A company run by some group of Muslims can not cheat.it is against our policy...also i will like you to know that we give every buyer 90 days return policy on every item(s)bought from our company and also a 1 year warranty comes with the items.

so i assure you that you will get the best of service from us.

regards

#7 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 22/03/2009 00:12
by hakazvaka
lola909 wrote:ma ja znao sam da je navlakusa :P ali fkt ima ljudi koji se zanesu pa naruce i plate, uglavnom pazite se !
Evo malo sale haha ja im poslao mail reko fol je ovo fake? jeste li vi lazni? zasto ovako jeftino? i gle odgovora :D
So i will like you to get back to us with your full shipping address so that we can register your address with the shipping company and ship out to your address on Monday.so we await your shipping address so that we can send to you our Western Union account details where you will remit the payment.

regards
Listen my friend....

It is true that this is not the real price of the product,the real price that we sell it to other buyers in Spain ranges from 1300-1500euros.But due to the fact that we are new on the website:(MARKET.BA)that is why as a marketing strategy we cut down the prices of our products so low so that we can get enough customers and associates over there in Bosnia.

We will give to you once you make payment of the goods the tracking numbers of the item which will be given to us by the shipping company so that you can track and trace your items.and also i will like you to know that you can trust us.A company run by some group of Muslims can not cheat.it is against our policy...also i will like you to know that we give every buyer 90 days return policy on every item(s)bought from our company and also a 1 year warranty comes with the items.

so i assure you that you will get the best of service from us.

regards
reko bi cojk posteni ljudi :P

#8 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 22/03/2009 00:23
by A-R-N-I
ni u ludilu ne salji pare na taj nacin,,,, ako ti ista posalju to ce biti kilo govana zapakovano,, i u to sumnjam da ce ti poslati,,, malo se bolje raspitaj prije nego bacis 500 maruna u miljacku :wink:
predlozi im da imas prijatelja u istom gradu i da ce on da im donese pare i preuzme robu... :D :D :D ,,, nece ti se nikad vise javiti....

#9 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 22/03/2009 00:41
by illuminated
ma cista prevara.
aktivni su na marketu. nekad sam ja prodavao fotoaparat na market.ba i javi mi se par likova iz inostranstva, (afrika, Engleska)
sa molbom da ja posaljem robu a oni ce "uplatiti" western unionom, a druga je prica bila da ja posaljem nekome robu, a drugi ce platiti jer zeli da mu posalje poklon....

ovo je samo obratna sema...samo sto sada treba poslati prvo novac.
Ova Arnijeva ideja je dobra, i mislim da se nece nikad javiti.

Ovo je mozda i dobar prijedlog za market da napravi dugme ili formu za prijavu neprikladnih oglasa, u kojoj bi jedna od opcija bila "Mogucnost prevare",
pa neka portal ispita i obrise odmah username itd.

#10 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 22/03/2009 00:43
by _tulumba_
Ni slucajno nemojte placati WesternUnionom,MoneyGram ili slicnim kompanijama! Nemojte pristati ni na direktno uplacivanje s racuna na racun.

Zlata vrijedan savjet! :thumbup:


Da Bog da onom za lijeka trebalo!!!

#11 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 30/07/2009 19:26
by Fozgen
illuminated wrote:ma cista prevara.
aktivni su na marketu. nekad sam ja prodavao fotoaparat na market.ba i javi mi se par likova iz inostranstva, (afrika, Engleska)
sa molbom da ja posaljem robu a oni ce "uplatiti" western unionom, a druga je prica bila da ja posaljem nekome robu, a drugi ce platiti jer zeli da mu posalje poklon....

ovo je samo obratna sema...samo sto sada treba poslati prvo novac.
Ova Arnijeva ideja je dobra, i mislim da se nece nikad javiti.

Ovo je mozda i dobar prijedlog za market da napravi dugme ili formu za prijavu neprikladnih oglasa, u kojoj bi jedna od opcija bila "Mogucnost prevare",
pa neka portal ispita i obrise odmah username itd.
A nesto slicno je sada. Prodajem ja neki tel. i lik mi se javlja da hoce da uzme to bla bla i da posalje svom prijatelju. i onda trazi da mu posaljem sve ove podatke :-) . Malo previse :P
So all you have to do now is to send me your bank account detail,
name:
address:
city:
state:
Zip code:
Country:
Account Number:
Bank Name:
Your email adress:


Da mu dam sve ove podatke samo da bi mi kao "platio" telefon.
Desavaju li se vama ovakve "ponude" na marketu?

#12 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 31/07/2009 21:29
by illuminated
Fozgen wrote:
illuminated wrote:ma cista prevara.
aktivni su na marketu. nekad sam ja prodavao fotoaparat na market.ba i javi mi se par likova iz inostranstva, (afrika, Engleska)
sa molbom da ja posaljem robu a oni ce "uplatiti" western unionom, a druga je prica bila da ja posaljem nekome robu, a drugi ce platiti jer zeli da mu posalje poklon....

ovo je samo obratna sema...samo sto sada treba poslati prvo novac.
Ova Arnijeva ideja je dobra, i mislim da se nece nikad javiti.

Ovo je mozda i dobar prijedlog za market da napravi dugme ili formu za prijavu neprikladnih oglasa, u kojoj bi jedna od opcija bila "Mogucnost prevare",
pa neka portal ispita i obrise odmah username itd.
A nesto slicno je sada. Prodajem ja neki tel. i lik mi se javlja da hoce da uzme to bla bla i da posalje svom prijatelju. i onda trazi da mu posaljem sve ove podatke :-) . Malo previse :P
So all you have to do now is to send me your bank account detail,
name:
address:
city:
state:
Zip code:
Country:
Account Number:
Bank Name:
Your email adress:


Da mu dam sve ove podatke samo da bi mi kao "platio" telefon.
Desavaju li se vama ovakve "ponude" na marketu?
hahaa...samo mu jos fali PIN code...treba i to dodati na listu.
samo mu reci da ti posalje svoj broj fixnog telefona da ga nazoves. nece se vise nikad javiti.

#13 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 31/07/2009 21:38
by Alfons Kauders

#14 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 01/08/2009 01:06
by PasHon1
_tulumba_ wrote:Ni slucajno nemojte placati WesternUnionom,MoneyGram ili slicnim kompanijama! Nemojte pristati ni na direktno uplacivanje s racuna na racun.

Zlata vrijedan savjet! :thumbup:


Da Bog da onom za lijeka trebalo!!!
Ma dok je budala,mozda i lijekove pocne prodavat.
Prevaranti!!

#15 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 01/08/2009 01:20
by Ghita
ma kakv market......
prodaju fotoaparate od 1 000-2000km po cijeni od 300-400km i još ko fol novi zapakovani

inače preko interneta mislim da se samo isplati kupiti knjige. ostalo jock

#16 Re: Market.ba, lazni oglasi?

Posted: 06/08/2009 15:05
by melb26sa
Iz jucerasnjeg NY Timesa, bas ima dio za "re-shippers" tj ove sto nude proizvode po jeftinim cijenama...
Ima jos opisa prevara, nije lose za procitati.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/techn ... ?th&emc=th

Online Scammers Prey on the Jobless
By RIVA RICHMOND
Published: August 5, 2009
When Claude Vera responded to the customer-service job opening he saw on the online-classified site Geebo.com back in February, it seemed like one of a hundred small acts that might get him back to work. Most of his e-mail messages to prospective employers were going unanswered, so he was relieved when Penguin Express Inc. replied the next day with a work-from-home job.

Claude Vera, of Jamaica, Queens, turned to an online-classified site to find work, but instead became a victim of a job fraud scam.
To help him get a home office started, Penguin sent him money orders so he could buy, via money wire, the requisite laptop and other equipment from several different people. Mr. Vera, of Jamaica, New York, deposited nine United States Postal Service money orders into his Chase bank account and wired a total of nearly $8,000 to the various vendors. But he never received a laptop or anything else, and the money orders turned out to be already cashed or counterfeit. The scam consumed Mr. Vera’s tax refund and put him in the red by $6,700 to Chase, which sent his case to a collection agent.

“Looking back at the whole thing I was very, very naïve, but I needed a job so bad,” he says. “I’m behind in everything. I’m behind in my rent. I’m behind in all the bills I’m responsible for. It has wiped me out financially.”

With unemployment high and rising, more people are streaming onto the Web in search of jobs — but running into costly scams. Like job seekers, criminals are after moneymaking opportunities online. And they’re setting increasingly sophisticated traps to prey on the desperation of the jobless, whose guards are down amid eroding savings, swelling debts and calamities like foreclosure and bankruptcy. Victims can ill afford another financial setback. “If you are a con artist, having more people out of work to deal with increases your odds of finding a victim,” says Pam Dixon, executive director of the World Privacy Forum. “They are thriving right now. If business weren’t good for the scammers, we wouldn’t be getting so many complaints.”

Spam filters provide some protection, and job boards work hard to remove bogus offers from large pools of legitimate offers. But none of the technology is foolproof. Job seekers have to keep their wits about them, no matter how much they need a job.

“The bottom line is if anything seems weird, just don’t apply,” says Tabatha Marshall, founder of PhishBucket.org, a non-profit that tracks online job scams and estimates they’re up a third from a year ago. “You’re going to take yourself down a road where you could lose money or time.”

Here are some of the more common scams and tips for avoiding them:

Common Frauds

HELP FOR A FEE Watch out for fake recruiters and charlatans who promise to train you for a lucrative new career. A well-known scam of the latter type is Google Treasure Chest, which offers people a cheap DVD that will teach them how to prosper placing Google ads.

But in the small print of the buyer’s agreement is notice of a $72.21 monthly charge. Stopping the charges proves difficult; some people claim to have gotten relief only by changing their credit card numbers. Google Treasure Chest did not reply to requests for comment.

FISHING FOR IDENTITY DATA Ads for attractive white-collar jobs can be, in fact, sophisticated fraud schemes.

Applicants may be steered to an authentic-looking corporate Web site, where they are asked to type personal information into a fake human-resources department Web form. Sometimes scammers go to great lengths, staging phone interviews or sometimes even conference calls with multiple people in an effort to appear legitimate. The goal? To talk people into handing over Social Security and bank-account numbers.

WORK FROM HOME Proliferating recently are fake “Mystery Shopper” positions evaluating the services of companies, especially money-wiring services. Victims are typically asked to deposit a check for several thousand dollars into their bank account, immediately use a bit of the money to shop at big-box stores and wire the rest via a service like Western Union or MoneyGram. Of course, the check is counterfeit, leaving victims out any money they wired and opening them to criminal prosecution for passing a bad check.

MONEY-MULE AND RESHIPPER These are some of the most dangerous schemes, since they can turn people, often unwittingly, into accomplices of international crime rings. More sophisticated than the now-familiar Nigerian e-mail messages, money mules are recruited by purported international companies looking for “receiving payment agents” who will accept payments into their bank account from “customers” (identity fraud victims) and wire the money to their “employer” (criminals). Some are told to keep 10 percent, but many are promised payment by direct deposit, which, of course, never comes.

Reshipper scams start with international shipping companies looking for “logistics managers” to receive packages of laptops, iPods and cameras, bought with stolen credit cards, and send them on to a foreign country. Again, direct-deposit payment never comes.

How to Protect Yourself

BE SKEPTICAL. Red flags include offers using poor grammar and spelling and that come from e-mail addresses that don’t match the name of the company. Real companies use polished language, emphasize a job’s duties and use corporate e-mail addresses, not Yahoo or Gmail accounts.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Research the company. Do they have a professional Web site with lots of content, a list of executives’ names and a phone number where you can reach a human being?

Often a simple Google search will be enough to spot trouble; there are scads of warnings from people who believe they were cheated by Google Treasure Chest, for instance. You can also check companies’ reputations with the Better Business Bureau and look for complaints on Web sites like Complaintsboard.com and PhishBucket.org.

KEEP IT PRIVATE. Limit the personal information you give online. This starts with your résumé: Don’t include any information you wouldn’t want broadcast to the world, which is exactly what you’re doing. Avoid providing your home address, a key bit of information for perpetrators of identity fraud; most real employers are happy with a general geographic location, like Greater New York City region. Unless you’re signing an employment agreement, keep your Social Security number to yourself.

SPECIALIZE YOUR SEARCH. “If you are in a particular sector or profession, go to the niche site first,” Ms. Dixon says. Scammers want the volume provided by big sites. Moreover, niche sites often filter job posts by hand and tend to be intimately familiar with the companies posting them, making it easier for them to spot fakes. Look for industry-specific job boards or professional groups with online listings.

GET TO KNOW THE COMPANY. During the hiring process, both parties should be looking for a good fit. Craigslist’s chief executive, Jim Buckmaster, says job seekers on his site should, as general rule, “deal with only local businesses you can meet face to face.” Mr. Buckmaster says Craigslist’s system captures the large majority of scams before they reach the site, but “it’s virtually impossible to keep every scam from traversing an Internet site that 50 million people are using each month.”

GO LOW TECH. Most people get jobs through local want ads, professional associations, job-search agencies, temp agencies and their personal networks of colleagues, friends and family. “The old-fashioned way is still sometimes the best way,” says Linda Foley, a founder of the consumer advocacy Identity Theft Resource Center.