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#1 Yusuf Islam deportovan iz SAD zbog veza sa teroristima

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kao mala napomena za neupucene Yusuf Islam je bivsi Cat Stevens,
ja sam jako volio njegovu muziku,
kao i ostala moja generacija,
njegov prelazak na islam je bio razocaravajuci za vecinu ljudi :?

prije par dana je izbacen iz SAD jer je na listi ljudi koji su povezani sa terorizmom :roll:

juka je naravno iznenadjen i uvredjen :D
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ne izmisljaj.
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za nevjerne tome ili friteze :shock:

klikni odje

LONDON, England (CNN) -- The British recording artist Yusuf Islam returned to London Thursday
saying he was "shocked and slightly amused" tj iznenadjen i uvredjen :D :D
after U.S. officials determined he was on a terrorist watch list and was not allowed to enter the United States.

.... Islam was taken off a United Air Lines flight from London to Washington on Tuesday and officially denied entry to the United States when U.S. authorities ordered the aircraft to land in Bangor, Maine. ....

i onda Juka kaze : "I just hope they've made a big mistake."

tj nada se da su ameri napravili veliku gresku :?

ja kazem: nadaj se, nadaj se :D :D
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njegov prelazak na islam je bio razocaravajuci za vecinu ljudi
:? :oops: :? :oops:
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kad je to uradio tako su stvarno svi izjavljivali,
sta mu je to trebalo itd
u stvari niko nije tada rekao, dobar potez :shock:
ja to malo diplomatski pa reko vecina, nisam htio da kazem svi :D

ali tako je to tada bilo, komsija :(

evo potvrdice ti i manijak, da je i on bio iznenadjen, mada mozda nije bio uvredjen :zzzz:
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Ne znam sta se imate razocarati koji klinac. To je njegova privatna stvar i njegov izbor.
Da li bi bio isto razocaran da je presao na Judizam ili na Pravoslavlje? :oops:
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naravno da bi :(

znas, mene su tada ucili u skoli da je religija opijum za narod
osim toga on je takodje zavrsio karijeru i poceo da vodi tada za nas,
a ze mene jos uvijek, jedan nerazumljiv stil zivota :-?
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Razumljiv ili ne, to je ipak bio njegov izbor. Nije moje nikog da sudim :oops:
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December 18, 2003
Michael Jackson Joining Nation of Islam?
Everybody's gonna laugh, but this seems like a perfect marriage to me. If Mike is sincere about this he could benefit greatly from the focus and discipline the Nation has given so many men over the years. And for the NOI, Michael provides living proof of their theory that white people can be created in a laboratory (but they won't turn out quite right).

Michael Jackson Finds Islam
Michael Jackson last night became a member of the Nation of Islam - and sources told The Post his religious changeover comes along with a shake-up of his personal staff.

High-ranking members of the Nation of Islam have been working to bring Jackson into Rev. Louis Farrakhan's flock - and Jackson's conversion is now well-known in the NOI community.

Exactly why Jackson converted wasn't clear to The Post's sources.

But Fox News's Web site reported yesterday that Jackson's brother Jermaine, who converted to Islam in 1989, has been seeking to win favor with his more famous sibling, and has brought Farrakhan's chief of staff, Leonard F. Muhammad, into Jacko's inner circle as a "bodyguard."

That's just one of many changes under way in Jackson's inner circle, sources said...



Keep in mind this is from the NY Post, so there's only a %50 chance it really happened.

Dali je ovo istina ili ne?
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rekao sam razocaravajuci, nisam spominjao nikakve osude :roll:

ipak juka je dobio nogu, vjerovatno vise kao neku vrstu opomene,

tako su i mene neki dan zaustavili na granici, i poslije pola sata, kad sam im rekao dajte ljudi nemojte me zajebavat,
pustise me odmah 8)
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magnifico wrote: tako su i mene neki dan zaustavili na granici, i poslije pola sata, kad sam im rekao dajte ljudi nemojte me zajebavat,
pustise me odmah 8)
jesi li jim rekao daj BA nemoj te me zajebavat BOLAN :-)
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Jusuf Islam je povezan sa terorizmom jer pomaze muslimanskom narodu sirom svijeta (pomagao je i nama za vrijeme agresije) i to je ono sto boli te gnusne neprijatelja Islama i muslimana!
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E jesu ga zajebali. A gdje li je ovaj Maine, bas me zanima. :lol:
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Ama on je imao dosta kontraverznih izjava...jer za razliku od našeg viđenja Islama..on je odmah postao vehabija. Pa je onda davao izjave po Engleskoj kako se trebaju uvesti Talibanska pravila za engleske Muslimane..tu se on ukopao. A naravno momak je i veliki borac za prava Palestinaca i Čečena pa je samim tim zaradio crveni karton i suspenziju neigranja na neodređeno :D
A za ove iznenađene evo još jedno iznenađenje: u Americi je u proteklih 10 godina povečan prelazak na Islam za 300%. Samo u protekloj, 2003. god., u SAD-u je na Islam prešlo 70.000 ljudi. Neko će možda reći da se radi o malom broju..ali ako se uzme u obzir da su oni malo po malo postali lideri u ateizmu, i dodajte tome impakt 11. sept...ovaj je broj kolosalan 8-)
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Ahmed.ibn.Fahalan wrote:... u SAD-u je na Islam prešlo 70.000 ljudi...
mozda se u SAD doselilo 70.000 muslimana, a o prelasku, tj konvertitima nema govora,
veci je broj ljudi konvertirao sa islama u neke druge religije, od budizma do hriscanstva :oops:
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#16 Re: Yusuf Islam deportovan iz SAD zbog veza sa teroristima

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magnifico wrote:kao mala napomena za neupucene Yusuf Islam je bivsi Cat Stevens,
ja sam jako volio njegovu muziku,
kao i ostala moja generacija,
njegov prelazak na islam je bio razocaravajuci za vecinu ljudi :?

prije par dana je izbacen iz SAD jer je na listi ljudi koji su povezani sa terorizmom :roll:

juka je naravno iznenadjen i uvredjen :D
A ti si malo fulio,mislim puno pisem malo .
Ti si jedna havetinja koja ne zna sta hoce da kaze.
Reci bolan rakija,ko sto kaze mali juka od tri godine.
:x
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Hajd ne lupaj, majke ti! Pa svugdje u svijetu broj Muslimana raste! Primjer ti je Engleska, zemlja u kojoj je Islam najbrže rastuća religija (kako da već formulišem)!!!
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Haj jedi govna zajedno sa timtvojim germa muslimanima. :x
Koga je bog dao nije ga dao dao da ga nema.
A vi ko vi ste mi neki kurac ili svijetlo kako ce ko svom bogu bit vidljiviji.jedite nemojte se samo naduti,ja onda nemam rijesenje.
Pogledaj ono otvaranje Dzamije u Turskoj i moj komentar.
Ako imas nesto reci reci da te jebem ko sto se jebe,a ne zguza,ko hajvana. :)
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sekiracija1 wrote:Haj jedi govna zajedno sa timtvojim germa muslimanima. :x
Koga je bog dao nije ga dao dao da ga nema.
A vi ko vi ste mi neki kurac ili svijetlo kako ce ko svom bogu bit vidljiviji.jedite nemojte se samo naduti,ja onda nemam rijesenje.
Pogledaj ono otvaranje Dzamije u Turskoj i moj komentar.
Ako imas nesto reci reci da te jebem ko sto se jebe,a ne zguza,ko hajvana. :)
Ja ne znam jeli ovo meni bilo upućeno, ali ako jeste, ne vidim razlog takvog rječnika, jer ja sam odgovarao magnificui!!!???
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Gospodine Cizmicu srcem vas molim nemojte se upustati u ovakve diskusiju,nije to prica ozbiljnih ljudi .Razunijet cete me kad vam ovo govorim ako se postavite u poziciju da zaista zelite da promijenite stanje,ili ako ste siti ovoga sto se dogadja na svjetskoj sceni,pa dopustite sebi i prekinite suplju pricu.
Ja sam ovo sve prosao zato vam govorim.
Munafici zele svoje srce uciniti vasim!
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sekiracija1 wrote:Gospodine Cizmicu srcem vas molim nemojte se upustati u ovakve diskusiju,nije to prica ozbiljnih ljudi .Razunijet cete me kad vam ovo govorim ako se postavite u poziciju da zaista zelite da promijenite stanje,ili ako ste siti ovoga sto se dogadja na svjetskoj sceni,pa dopustite sebi i prekinite suplju pricu.
Ja sam ovo sve prosao zato vam govorim.
Munafici zele svoje srce uciniti vasim!
Gospodine, a prvo JEDI GOVNA...??? Šuplja priča??? Ja sam samo odgovorio Magnificu na ono da više ljudi napušta Islam, nego što ih prelazi na isti!!! Što se tiče gore navedene teme nisam htio komentarisati, jer ko će ga znati više!!! Zato ne vidim razlog vašem odgovoru na onaj način na koji ste prvi puta odgovorili, jer niti je vrijeđao vas, niti bilo koga drugog!!!
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Ma nije ni moj cilj da vrijedjam,kad
kad se upustim pa citam sta pisete.
ma pisite to i onako vi citate.
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OK, ali nije mi jasno, šta u mom postu nije štimalo!!!
PS To je bio moj jedini post na ovu temu!
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#24 Re: Yusuf Islam deportovan iz SAD zbog veza sa teroristima

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magnifico wrote:kao mala napomena za neupucene Yusuf Islam je bivsi Cat Stevens,
ja sam jako volio njegovu muziku,
kao i ostala moja generacija,
njegov prelazak na islam je bio razocaravajuci za vecinu ljudi :?

prije par dana je izbacen iz SAD jer je na listi ljudi koji su povezani sa terorizmom :roll:

juka je naravno iznenadjen i uvredjen :D

LONDON, England (CNN) -- The British recording artist Yusuf Islam returned to London Thursday saying he was "shocked and slightly amused" after U.S. officials determined he was on a terrorist watch list and was not allowed to enter the United States.

Islam, the peace activist and singer once known as Cat Stevens, said he was traveling to Nashville, Tennessee, with his daughter for a recording session when he was approached aboard the flight into Washington, D.C.

"Suddenly we were forced to land and suddenly I was being interrogated by all these FBI officers," Islam said at an impromptu press conference at London's Heathrow Airport.

"The whole thing is totally ridiculous. Everybody knows who I am, you know, I'm no secret figure. Everybody knows my campaigning for charity, for peace. And there's got to be a whole lot of explanations. Hopefully there will be that."

When asked if he was being victimized, he said "absolutely," then added, "but you know people make mistakes."

"I just hope they've made a big mistake."

Islam was taken off a United Air Lines flight from London to Washington on Tuesday and officially denied entry to the United States when U.S. authorities ordered the aircraft to land in Bangor, Maine.

He was taken to Boston and Washington before being sent back to London on another United flight from Dulles International Airport.

U.S. Muslim leaders say they want the government to explain why he was on a "watch list" meant to keep terrorists out of the country.

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge accused Islam of having some unspecified relationship with terrorist activity.

"Celebrity or unknown, our job is to act on information that others have given us," Ridge said.

"And in this instance, there was some relationship between the name and the terrorists' activity with this individual's name being on that no-fly list, and appropriate action was taken."

Other officials said he was on the watch list because of reported associations and financial support for Muslim charities with terrorist connections. But they would not disclose the names of those charities, and Homeland Security spokesman Garrison Courtney told CNN only that "the intelligence community has come into possession of additional information that further heightens our concerns of Yusuf Islam."

The 56-year-old Islam changed his name after becoming a Muslim in the 1970s. Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said his organization wanted a better explanation for why the singer was denied entry into the country.

"We are getting a little tired of this kind of Kafkaesque treatment of people, where vague allegations are made and actions are taken against individuals and organizations," Hooper said.

He said American Muslim leaders "need to know where the allegations are coming from."

"I don't think we want to be in a situation where people are denounced by anonymous government officials and labeled as terrorists and that's it -- everybody says 'Okay, we don't need any more information.' We need more information," he said.

Ridge said the intelligence that put the singer's name on the list came from outside the United States, but he would not reveal the source.

He questioned why United allowed him onto the flight at all, but government sources said Islam's name was added to the watch list only recently and had been misspelled -- which could explain why airline employees overlooked it.

Aviation security adviser Jalal Haidar, an Arab-American Muslim, said Islam's inclusion on the watch list may have been a mistake -- but he said the watch list system will improve.

"Mistakes happen. There are lots of redundant names, and identity can be mistaken," he said.

"The system is not perfect here." Ridge called the singer "one of my favorite artists," and said his agency would take "a very, very close look" at the information that resulted in Islam being placed on the list.

But another U.S. official said the Department of Homeland Security is "extremely confident in the information," and said it was credible "without a doubt."

According to Islam's Web site, he is associated with three charities: Small Kindness for humanitarian relief; Islamia Schools' Trust for education; and Waqf al Birr Educational Trust for educational research and development and scientific and medical research.

As Cat Stevens, Islam had a string of hits in the 1960s and 1970s such as "Moon Shadow," "Peace Train," "Wild World" and "Morning Has Broken" before converting to Islam in the 1970s and changing his name.

He dropped out of the music business for more than a decade after converting to Islam, but returned to the studio periodically since the late 1990s. He condemned the September 11, 2001, al Qaeda attacks on New York and Washington, performing at a benefit concert to raise money for victims and donating a portion of the royalties from a career retrospective to a relief fund.

He also condemned the recent attack on a school in the southern Russian town of Beslan that killed more than 300 people, many of them children.

He was widely reported to have endorsed the late Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeni's 1989 decree calling for the death of British novelist Salman Rushdie after Khomeni said Rushdie's novel, "The Satanic Verses," was blasphemous.

But Islam has said his comments were taken out of context by a reporter, and that he opposed anyone "taking the law into their own hands."

CNN's Homeland Security Correspondent Jeanne Meserve contributed to this report.


Hajde sad sve prevedi sta pise ovdje - i ne izmisljaj znanje Engleskog ti nije dovoljno - 'shocked and amused' si pogresno protumacio kao i citav tekst

Zato ti kazem ne izmisljaj.
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