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#1 Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 12:53
by StLouis
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak.aspx?id=386996

http://www.rtl.hr/vijesti/prikaz/15033/

California's Supreme Court quashed a ban on gay marriage in a historic ruling here Thursday, effectively leaving same-sex couples in America's most populous state free to tie the knot.

In an opinion that analysts say could have nationwide implications for the issue, the seven-member panel voted 4-3 in favor of plaintiffs who argued that restricting marriage to men and women was discriminatory.

"Limiting the designation of marriage to a union 'between a man and a woman' is unconstitutional and must be stricken from the statute," California Chief Justice Ron George said in the written opinion.

The ruling added that all California couples had a "basic civil right" to marry "without regard to their sexual orientation."

Before Thursday only one US state -- Massachusetts -- allowed gay marriage, although California, New Jersey and Vermont have legislation which grants same-sex partners many of the same legal rights as married couples.

Plaintiffs and gay rights activists erupted with joy after the victory.

"It's the best day of my life, quite honestly I'm thrilled for all of us," Diane Olson said.

In San Francisco, couples immediately began lining up at the city clerk's office for marriage licenses, even though officials said they will not be able to issue any for at least 30 days, when the decision takes effect.

Thursday's ruling came after a long-running legal battle that erupted in 2000 when California voters approved a law declaring that only marriages between men and women could be legally recognized.

In February 2004, the city of San Francisco defied state law by issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, arguing that existing laws were illegal because they violated equal rights legislation.

A court later halted the issuance of licenses and declared that same-sex marriages that took place during this period were void.

However, San Francisco and civil rights activists waged a legal case arguing that limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples was unconstitutional and that the law should be struck down.

In 2005 the San Francisco Superior Court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, finding that there was no justification for refusing to allow marriages.

But the decision was overturned in 2006 by the California Court of Appeal, which ruled in a 2-1 decision that the state's desire to "carry out the expressed wishes of a majority" was sufficient to preserve the existing law.

California lawmakers have also voted in favor of gay marriage but the bill was vetoed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has said that the matter is for the state's court system to decide on.

Legal analysts say Thursday's court ruling could have wide-ranging implications for other US states, noting the California Supreme Court's history of landmark rulings.

"The California Supreme Court's example is often emulated and it often is sort of a groundbreaker," said David Cruz, a law professor at the University of Southern California and an expert in constitutional law.

"In the 20th century California was the first state to strike down laws against inter-racial marriage. They did that 19 years before the US Supreme Court got around to it."

But Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for Children and Families, reacted with dismay, insisting "marriage is naturally for a man and a woman."

"If the institution of marriage is redefined and therefore destroyed in the law, the wellbeing of children is threatened, both emotionally, socially, even physically," Thomasson added.

A coalition of religious and social conservative groups have vowed to attempt to add a vote calling for a ban on same-sex marriage when California goes to the polls in November's election.

State election officials will rule next month on whether sponsors of the vote have gathered enough signatures to force the issue onto the ballot.

"We have 1.1 million signatures," according to the Reverend Lou Sheldon, chairman of the Washington-based Traditional Values Coalition, describing the California ruling as "completely out of line."

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#2 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 12:54
by chuchumbamayumbe
BLjAK

#3 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 18:51
by omar little
StLouis wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak.aspx?id=386996

http://www.rtl.hr/vijesti/prikaz/15033/

California's Supreme Court quashed a ban on gay marriage in a historic ruling here Thursday, effectively leaving same-sex couples in America's most populous state free to tie the knot.

In an opinion that analysts say could have nationwide implications for the issue, the seven-member panel voted 4-3 in favor of plaintiffs who argued that restricting marriage to men and women was discriminatory.

"Limiting the designation of marriage to a union 'between a man and a woman' is unconstitutional and must be stricken from the statute," California Chief Justice Ron George said in the written opinion.

The ruling added that all California couples had a "basic civil right" to marry "without regard to their sexual orientation."

Before Thursday only one US state -- Massachusetts -- allowed gay marriage, although California, New Jersey and Vermont have legislation which grants same-sex partners many of the same legal rights as married couples.

Plaintiffs and gay rights activists erupted with joy after the victory.

"It's the best day of my life, quite honestly I'm thrilled for all of us," Diane Olson said.

In San Francisco, couples immediately began lining up at the city clerk's office for marriage licenses, even though officials said they will not be able to issue any for at least 30 days, when the decision takes effect.

Thursday's ruling came after a long-running legal battle that erupted in 2000 when California voters approved a law declaring that only marriages between men and women could be legally recognized.

In February 2004, the city of San Francisco defied state law by issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, arguing that existing laws were illegal because they violated equal rights legislation.

A court later halted the issuance of licenses and declared that same-sex marriages that took place during this period were void.

However, San Francisco and civil rights activists waged a legal case arguing that limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples was unconstitutional and that the law should be struck down.

In 2005 the San Francisco Superior Court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, finding that there was no justification for refusing to allow marriages.

But the decision was overturned in 2006 by the California Court of Appeal, which ruled in a 2-1 decision that the state's desire to "carry out the expressed wishes of a majority" was sufficient to preserve the existing law.

California lawmakers have also voted in favor of gay marriage but the bill was vetoed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has said that the matter is for the state's court system to decide on.

Legal analysts say Thursday's court ruling could have wide-ranging implications for other US states, noting the California Supreme Court's history of landmark rulings.

"The California Supreme Court's example is often emulated and it often is sort of a groundbreaker," said David Cruz, a law professor at the University of Southern California and an expert in constitutional law.

"In the 20th century California was the first state to strike down laws against inter-racial marriage. They did that 19 years before the US Supreme Court got around to it."

But Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for Children and Families, reacted with dismay, insisting "marriage is naturally for a man and a woman."

"If the institution of marriage is redefined and therefore destroyed in the law, the wellbeing of children is threatened, both emotionally, socially, even physically," Thomasson added.

A coalition of religious and social conservative groups have vowed to attempt to add a vote calling for a ban on same-sex marriage when California goes to the polls in November's election.

State election officials will rule next month on whether sponsors of the vote have gathered enough signatures to force the issue onto the ballot.

"We have 1.1 million signatures," according to the Reverend Lou Sheldon, chairman of the Washington-based Traditional Values Coalition, describing the California ruling as "completely out of line."

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Cuj tebe pa ZA naravno!!! Falim te Boze da su se sjetili vise!

#4 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 19:56
by Saian
ne mozhe, ova slika nije reprezentativna, dajte neke koji su zaista mogli birat :D :D :D

#5 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 19:58
by pitt
Saian wrote:ne mozhe, ova slika nije reprezentativna, dajte neke koji su zaista mogli birat :D :D :D
Sad ce se breeze preseliti :D :D

#6 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 20:01
by StLouis
pitt wrote:
Saian wrote:ne mozhe, ova slika nije reprezentativna, dajte neke koji su zaista mogli birat :D :D :D
Sad ce se breeze preseliti :D :D
ma oni su ta prava u sveCkoj davno izvojevali :D :D

#7 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 20:07
by pitt
StLouis wrote:
pitt wrote:
Saian wrote:ne mozhe, ova slika nije reprezentativna, dajte neke koji su zaista mogli birat :D :D :D
Sad ce se breeze preseliti :D :D
ma oni su ta prava u sveCkoj davno izvojevali :D :D
a imaju li vikinzi latex wedding :D :D :D

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#8 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 20:10
by Saian
pitt wrote:
a imaju li vikinzi latex wedding :D :D :D

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sta je ovo neka javna (Wal)hala :D :D :D

#9 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 20:13
by pitt
izgleda.....a baba sera je na koljenima :D :D :D

#10 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 20:54
by jeza u ledja
Ne znam je li s ovim povezano, ali cujem da pitt seli u Californiju. :D

#11 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 21:06
by StLouis
jeza u ledja wrote:Ne znam je li s ovim povezano, ali cujem da pitt seli u Californiju. :D
Blize mu je u Massachuset
:D

#12 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 16/05/2008 21:27
by ludacha
pa sta?

#13 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 01:53
by metal_rules_cura
Boli me cosak. Sve dok mene niko ne dira dobro je :D

Neka se vjencavaju, ali ne da usvajaju djecu..

#14 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 09:45
by max_power
Ma nek i usvajaju djecu sto se mene tice, ako ispunjavaju sve uslove.
Bolje djetetu da odrasta sa njima nego negdje po sirotilistima...

#15 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 13:57
by Mobile_Disco
Kazu da tamo ima najvise lezbejki.. :D

#16 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 16:46
by StLouis
Mobile_Disco wrote:Kazu da tamo ima najvise lezbejki.. :D
sta ti imas protiv nas lezbejki :D hoces da ti popravim auto :lol:

#17 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 17:14
by Umjetnik a
chuchumbamayumbe wrote:BLjAK

bolest

#18 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 17:35
by metal_rules_cura
max_power wrote:Ma nek i usvajaju djecu sto se mene tice, ako ispunjavaju sve uslove.
Bolje djetetu da odrasta sa njima nego negdje po sirotilistima...
Ne slazem se. Dokazan je visok uticaj odrastanja u takvom okruzenju na licnost djeteta u smislu da i ono ima 90% sansu da bude sklono istom spolu. Porodica nije uzalud postavljena tako kako jeste...

Moje misljenje.

#19 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 17:44
by omar little
metal_rules_cura wrote:
max_power wrote:Ma nek i usvajaju djecu sto se mene tice, ako ispunjavaju sve uslove.
Bolje djetetu da odrasta sa njima nego negdje po sirotilistima...
Ne slazem se. Dokazan je visok uticaj odrastanja u takvom okruzenju na licnost djeteta u smislu da i ono ima 90% sansu da bude sklono istom spolu. Porodica nije uzalud postavljena tako kako jeste...

Moje misljenje.
Netacno i cista religijsko-konzervativna propaganda. Imas li link za taj "dokaz"? Ali iz naucne ustanove a ne sa nekih propagandno-diskriminacijskih smetljista od sajtova?

#20 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 17:46
by HAL9000
metal_rules_cura wrote: Ne slazem se. Dokazan je visok uticaj odrastanja u takvom okruzenju na licnost djeteta u smislu da i ono ima 90% sansu da bude sklono istom spolu. Porodica nije uzalud postavljena tako kako jeste...

Moje misljenje.
Ne vjerujem. Pa zar nisu u najvecem broju homoseksualci bas iz heteroseksualnih brakova. Ta prica ne stoji.

#21 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 17:52
by cyprus
Jesam li ja homofobičan ako sam protiv legaliziranja homosexualnih brakova? :-)

Mislim, ko onda može naći razlog zašto se ne bi ljudi i životinje vjenčavali? :D

edit: sjetih se, životinje ne mogu reći DA :D

#22 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 17:54
by chuchumbamayumbe
Umjetnik a wrote:
chuchumbamayumbe wrote:BLjAK

bolest
Da se razumijemo, nemam nista protiv derpasha i lezibezi, neka se zene, udavaju, karaju, ali da usvajaju djecu, e to mi je bolesno i to nikada ne bih dozvolio.
Da je pederluk normalan onda se ljudi ne bi ni razmnozavali, ja bi ga tur'o jaranu, jaran meni, uzaludno, nikako ne bi mogli da zatrudnimo.
Mozda jesam seljak coek, ali ne vidim nista lijepo i normalno u pederluku.

#23 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 18:03
by Risto Kuglarić
chuchumbamayumbe wrote:
Umjetnik a wrote:
chuchumbamayumbe wrote:BLjAK

bolest
Da se razumijemo, nemam nista protiv derpasha i lezibezi, neka se zene, udavaju, karaju, ali da usvajaju djecu, e to mi je bolesno i to nikada ne bih dozvolio.
Da je pederluk normalan onda se ljudi ne bi ni razmnozavali, ja bi ga tur'o jaranu, jaran meni, uzaludno, nikako ne bi mogli da zatrudnimo.
Mozda jesam seljak coek, ali ne vidim nista lijepo i normalno u pederluku.
kake veze ima to kome bi ga ti turo sa odgojem djece?

#24 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 18:08
by Dioda
Pa da sin poslije ne bi "turo" jaranu :D

#25 Re: Kalifornija legalizirala gay brakove

Posted: 17/05/2008 18:09
by Umjetnik a
chuchumbamayumbe wrote:
Umjetnik a wrote:
chuchumbamayumbe wrote:BLjAK

bolest
Da se razumijemo, nemam nista protiv derpasha i lezibezi, neka se zene, udavaju, karaju, ali da usvajaju djecu, e to mi je bolesno i to nikada ne bih dozvolio.
Da je pederluk normalan onda se ljudi ne bi ni razmnozavali, ja bi ga tur'o jaranu, jaran meni, uzaludno, nikako ne bi mogli da zatrudnimo.
Mozda jesam seljak coek, ali ne vidim nista lijepo i normalno u pederluku.
ja i chu se uvijek slažemo
skoro uvijek
dijelimo isto mišljenje