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#1 Da li ste sretni?

Posted: 21/01/2008 02:46
by anais_nin
Happy is the new sad -- the key to glee
THE ECONOMIST

The World Database of Happiness, in Rotterdam, collects all the available information about what makes people happy and why. According to the research, married, extroverted optimists are happier than single, pessimistic introverts, and Republicans are happier than Democrats.

Nurses enjoy life more than bankers, and it helps to be religious, sexually active and a college graduate with a short commute to work. The wealthy experience more mirth than the poor, but not much. Most people say they are happy, but perhaps that is because they are expected to be.

Having long ignored the subject, psychologists, economists and social scientists are now tackling happiness with zeal, particularly in America. Mostly this involves examining why people are not as happy as they should be, given the unprecedented access to freedom, opportunities and riches.

Because happiness is now considered more an entitlement than a pursuit among citizens of prosperous countries, unhappiness has become a sign of failure, of weakness, and a prime source of dread.

"Happy, you might say, is the new sad," writes Eric Weiner in "The Geography of Bliss: One Grump's Search for the Happiest Places in the World," the latest contribution to the expanding field of positive psychology.

A reporter for National Public Radio and a self- proclaimed unhappy person, Weiner used the Rotterdam database to find out where the happiest people live. He then traveled to these places in search of the secrets of contentment.

"Are you happy?" he asks the locals of Iceland, Thailand, India and the Netherlands. "Have you seen our public toilets?" replies a man in Switzerland, one of the happiest countries. "They are very clean." (Also the landscape is gorgeous, the trains prompt, the government attentive and the unemployment rate low.)

In Qatar, a land of cartoonish opulence where happiness is seen as God's will, Weiner's question is met with cringes; one of those asked suggests he "should become a Muslim" in order to know happiness. In mellow Thailand everyone is "too busy being happy to think about happiness."

Weiner offers colorful observations, even when he samples hakarl, or rotten shark, an Icelandic specialty. Yet he chronicles his travels with a wearying feather-light jocularity, prizing one-liners over lucid analysis. And he fails to provide footnotes to his sources, despite relying simply on his "journalist's instincts."

Still, there is insight amid the anecdotes. Weiner learns that the world's happiest places (such as Iceland and Switzerland) are often ethnically homogeneous even if they have high suicide rates. The least happy places (such as Moldova) are often former Soviet republics, where new political freedoms are undercut by general mistrust, nepotism, corruption and envy.

For the British, happiness is a suspicious transatlantic import ("We don't do happiness," quips one chap). While Americans, who "work longer hours and commute greater distances than virtually any other people in the world," struggle hardest to be happy, and are often blind to their own failure; perhaps because the pursuit of happiness is an "inalienable right" in America.

In any event, it is this "American obsession with happiness" that Eric G. Wilson lambastes in his slim polemic, "Against Happiness: In Praise of Melancholy."

An English professor at Wake Forest University in North Carolina, Wilson has crafted a tirade against the country's "wanton" embrace of "manic bliss." He sounds a shrill alarm: "We are right at this moment annihilating melancholia," he declares, which will deprive us of the creativity, genius and intellectual brilliance that come from this gloom.

To experience beauty and lightness, we must also have death and darkness. But with anti-depressants, high-tech gadgets and botox, America is desperately trying to create "a brave new world of persistent good fortune, joy without pain, felicity with no penalty."

Given America's shift into positive-psychology overdrive, a thoughtful critique of this solipsistic grasping is welcome. Alas, Wilson's is not that critique.

Instead, it is an angry, emotional and often repetitive attack on a host of targets, including consumer culture ("happiness through acquisition"), the church ("happiness companies"), politics ("we blithely cheer its increasing demise") and, most of all, those bland, robotic happy types, with their "paper-thin minds."


But who are these heartland Americans who are unable to feel pain and sadness? How did he find them? The author's self- serving indictment seethes with malevolence. Wilson seems to be overlooking the fact that America's growing self-help industrial complex does not indicate "flaccid contentment" but its absence.

As Weiner writes, since 1960 America's "divorce rate has doubled, the teen-suicide rate tripled, the violent-crime rate quadrupled, and the prison population quintupled." Also depression, anxiety and other mental-health problems are on the rise, ensuring there will be plenty of melancholic types to write poetry and compose music for some time.

There is certainly little risk of eradicating the blues. As Eric Hoffer, an American social philosopher, once observed: "The search for happiness is one of the chief sources of unhappiness."


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Izvor mnogih istrazivanja, ispitivanja, polemika :D Razmisljate li vi o tome koliko ste sretni/zadovoljni svojim zivotom? Sobom? Mislite li da su ova istrazivanja ikakav pokazatelj stvarnog stanja u nekoj naciji? Ili je sve stvar percepcije ili momenta u kojem neko odgovara na postavljeno pitanje?

za primjer, jedan takav test "koliko ste sretni"?

http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200 ... 11_b.jhtml

#2

Posted: 21/01/2008 13:28
by callmethebreeeze
jesam. jos samo da fax zavrsim pa cu biti jos sretniji :D ali, eto, zadovoljicu se sa stalnim poslom, vjerom u boga, redovnim sexom "prepisati hoda" do posla :D

#3

Posted: 21/01/2008 15:06
by pesak
ne. bas me cudi.

#4

Posted: 21/01/2008 15:11
by Tesssa
Ma meni je super :D

Naravno, puno uspona i padova, gadnih padova. I uvijek tad mislim da sam bas ja najnesretnija osoba na svijetu:roll: . Onda pogledam koliko toga imam oko sebe sto neki ljudi nikad nece imati, i osjecam se odlicno :D

#5

Posted: 21/01/2008 16:12
by mrs. zurbrigen
cuj sretna. gdje cu biti? u cetvrtak i petak imam ispite, sve sto sam naucila sam zaboravila. para nemam. decka nemam. kila viska imam. boze dragi, da se bacim kroz prozor - podrumski. :D

#6

Posted: 21/01/2008 16:52
by danas
pesak wrote:ne. bas me cudi.
ajde :? :D

#7

Posted: 21/01/2008 17:51
by modesti
Ja sam jako sretna. Imam sve šta mi treba. Uvijek može bolje, ali sam sretna da nije gore. Još kad bi preselila sebe i porodicu u neku od zemalja EU, pa da ne gledam ove njonje koje nam vode državu, bila bih najsretnija :D

Nisam pročitala onaj članak gore. Nerviraju me mnogo dugi članci, a još na engleskom :-? ko će s tim zahmetiti.

#8

Posted: 21/01/2008 19:16
by amalka
Cesto se uhvatim u razmisljanju, upravo na ovu temu. Uglavnom, zakljucak je da jesam sretna i to jako. Zdrava sam, Bogu hvala, kao i moji roditelji i bliza rodbina, radim posao koji volim, imam divne prijatelje (ono malo sto ih je ostalo, ali bar znam da su pravi), i svakako, jedna od najbitnijih stavki; imam predobrog momka kojeg volim najvise na svijetu i koji mi poklanja svu potrebnu paznju i ljubav. Da, sretna sam, hvala Bogu na tome. Jos kad bih polozila ove ispite i diplomirala, eh... :D

#9

Posted: 21/01/2008 21:17
by rikardoreis
Da. Smireniji, samim tim sretniji :D

#10

Posted: 22/01/2008 05:47
by anais_nin
modesti wrote:Ja sam jako sretna. Imam sve šta mi treba. Uvijek može bolje, ali sam sretna da nije gore. Još kad bi preselila sebe i porodicu u neku od zemalja EU, pa da ne gledam ove njonje koje nam vode državu, bila bih najsretnija :D

Nisam pročitala onaj članak gore. Nerviraju me mnogo dugi članci, a još na engleskom :-? ko će s tim zahmetiti.
Pa sustina clanka se svodi na to da hronicna "potraga za srecom" = nedostatak iste :D takodje ono ocigledno da relativni "materijalni uspjeh" drzave nema puno veze sa tim koliko se ljudi u toj drzavi deklarisu "sretnim" :D

Tvrdnja je da su medju "najnesretnijim" zemlje u tranziciji, posebno drzave bivseg sovjetskog saveza gdje u okvirima "novih politickih sloboda" dominiraju korupcija, nepotizam, zavist i generalno stanje nepovjerenja :D zvuci poznato? :D

pa eto zanimljivo je svesti ove razne studije i istrazivanja na licni, individualni nivo :D

#11

Posted: 22/01/2008 06:17
by encian
elhamdulillah. mada svaku noc imam 5 minuta dugu molitvu za Boga :D . svejedno, zivi, zdravi, pametni je ono za sta molim kad sam mLogo pospana :-D

#12

Posted: 22/01/2008 07:06
by d2
nemam vremena da budem sretan = nisam sretan :x

#13

Posted: 22/01/2008 07:07
by d2
mrs. zurbrigen wrote:cuj sretna. gdje cu biti? u cetvrtak i petak imam ispite, sve sto sam naucila sam zaboravila. para nemam. decka nemam. kila viska imam. boze dragi, da se bacim kroz prozor - podrumski. :D
danas je cetvrtak, sretno na ispitima

#14

Posted: 22/01/2008 07:27
by amalka
d2 wrote:
mrs. zurbrigen wrote:cuj sretna. gdje cu biti? u cetvrtak i petak imam ispite, sve sto sam naucila sam zaboravila. para nemam. decka nemam. kila viska imam. boze dragi, da se bacim kroz prozor - podrumski. :D
danas je cetvrtak, sretno na ispitima
Danas cetvrtak? :shock: Hmm... Meni se cini da je utorak :oops:

#15

Posted: 22/01/2008 07:37
by d2
vidis koliko nemam vremena, ni da pogledam kalendar :D

#16

Posted: 22/01/2008 07:47
by amalka
Aaaa, to ti dokazujes svoju tezu :oops: :D

#17

Posted: 22/01/2008 08:26
by allpfl
Shiny happy people laughing
Meet me in the crowd
People people
Throw your love around
Love me love me
Take it into town
Happy happy
Put it in the ground
Where the flowers grow
Gold and silver shine

Shiny happy people holding hands
Shiny happy people laughing

Everyone around love them, love them
Put it in your hands
Take it take it
There's no time to cry
Happy happy
Put it in your heart
Where tomorrow shines
Gold and silver shine

Shiny happy people holding hands
Shiny happy people laughing

#18

Posted: 22/01/2008 08:56
by amalka
REM :-) nice :-)

#19

Posted: 28/01/2008 11:18
by pogresna
Sretna sam,zivot cine male radosti,koliko god to isprazno zvucalo :)
Evo divan da,radujem se kafi na suncu sa dragim osobama...

#20

Posted: 28/01/2008 11:26
by uvjek dobar gost
..... Sretan sam sve dok se ugledam na gore do sebe, sretan sam dok sam zdrav, sretan sam kad sunce je il kad snijeg vani pada, na odmor kad odem negdje gdje već bio nisam pravo sam sretan, sretan sam kad god izađem iz grada i udahnem svjež vazduh, sretan sam u kanjonu rakitnice, na Plivskim jezerima, na Uni sam pravo sretan, na Neretvi.. sretan sam na Bjelašnici ali sa druge strane, kad god suzim kadar sretan sam...

Sretan sam kad čujem škripanje snijega pod nogama il pod daskom za snowboard.... u Rovinju sam sretan... il u Mostaru i Počitelju....
Nasmijan sam kad odem na Bobovac...

Koliko god se ja trudio i radovao nekim malim il velikim stvarima surova reala koja me okružuje me dozove , spusti me na zemlju... nekad se stidim nekih stvari koje ja uzimam zdravo za gotovo jer živim tu gdje živim...

Čovjeku tako malo fali da bude sretan, ali još manje da to ne bude...

Sreća je tu da se dijeli sa drugima , a ne da ja u njoj sebično uživam, kad nekom navučem smijeh na lice... ipak sam najsretniji......

#21

Posted: 28/01/2008 11:32
by pogresna
uvjek dobar gost wrote:..... Sretan sam sve dok se ugledam na gore do sebe, sretan sam dok sam zdrav, sretan sam kad sunce je il kad snijeg vani pada, na odmor kad odem negdje gdje već bio nisam pravo sam sretan, sretan sam kad god izađem iz grada i udahnem svjež vazduh, sretan sam u kanjonu rakitnice, na Plivskim jezerima, na Uni sam pravo sretan, na Neretvi.. sretan sam na Bjelašnici ali sa druge strane, kad god suzim kadar sretan sam...

Sretan sam kad čujem škripanje snijega pod nogama il pod daskom za snowboard.... u Rovinju sam sretan... il u Mostaru i Počitelju....
Nasmijan sam kad odem na Bobovac...

Koliko god se ja trudio i radovao nekim malim il velikim stvarima surova reala koja me okružuje me dozove , spusti me na zemlju... nekad se stidim nekih stvari koje ja uzimam zdravo za gotovo jer živim tu gdje živim...

Čovjeku tako malo fali da bude sretan, ali još manje da to ne bude...

Sreća je tu da se dijeli sa drugima , a ne da ja u njoj sebično uživam, kad nekom navučem smijeh na lice... ipak sam najsretniji......
:-D :-D

#22

Posted: 28/01/2008 11:33
by ladyblue18
Danas jako :-D
Prvenstveno jer je dan predivan, a ima i drugih faktora :-)
Samo mi srecu kvare knjige i ispiti :x

#23

Posted: 28/01/2008 11:45
by uvjek dobar gost
ladyblue18 wrote:Danas jako :-D
Prvenstveno jer je dan predivan, a ima i drugih faktora :-)
Samo mi srecu kvare knjige i ispiti :x
Da se mijenjamo....
Ja sam nekad kao student obožavao da učim u prirodi, odem na Vrelo Bosne il negdje drugo na osamu i lagano...

#24

Posted: 28/01/2008 11:56
by Truba
sretan sam
kako kad :D
kad pogledam dobar film ili pročitam kakvu finu knjigu danima sam produhovljen :D i sretan

#25

Posted: 28/01/2008 13:08
by ladyblue18
uvjek dobar gost wrote:
ladyblue18 wrote:Danas jako :-D
Prvenstveno jer je dan predivan, a ima i drugih faktora :-)
Samo mi srecu kvare knjige i ispiti :x
Da se mijenjamo....
Ja sam nekad kao student obožavao da učim u prirodi, odem na Vrelo Bosne il negdje drugo na osamu i lagano...
U prirodi... :? Ja najdalje sto se zadesim u prirodi pri ucenju je basta al ne fercera...samo cujem ptice i komsije :oops: :D