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Od Sarajlija redovno cujem izraz "do zla Boga", a cuo sam i od Zemicana i jednog iz Konjica,... Neznam dali se jos negdje tako govori. Znaci centralna Bosna do sada koliko znam.

Neznam jeli ovo pravi podforum za takvu pitanje, ali neznam gdje bi inace stavio.

Taj izraz mi je interesantan jer jedino korjen mogu naci u praznovjerju, paganizmu, bogumilstvu,... Dali je moguce da se taj izraz toliko dugo sacuvao sve vjekove,... ili je proizvod novijeg vremena. Cujem ga i od penzionera,.. pa opet nemogu zamisliti nikakav trend ni prije vise decenija gdje bi se udomacio izraz "do zla Boga" koji je na naki nacin bogohulan i izaziva aversiju kod vjernika.

Znali neko ista o tome,... ?

Primjeri:
vristi do zla Boga,
tjera ga do zla Boga,
dosadilo do zla Boga,....

Orbini wrote: Taj izraz mi je interesantan jer jedino korjen mogu naci u praznovjerju, paganizmu, bogumilstvu,... Dali je moguce da se taj izraz toliko dugo sacuvao sve vjekove,... ili je proizvod novijeg vremena.

Èuo sam i ja da kako je jedan moj o'sov'o troboga... Kol'ko bi to moglo bit' staro?

Pa trobog bi se mogao odnositi na trojstvo, ne mora biti ko zna koliko staro.

Ima i ona od zla oca i od gore matere

Mozda ovdje ima odgovora:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog

A izraz eki ????

Kad nekom pricas nesto.,pa on onako iznenadjen, eki to?

sulesavic wrote:

Orbini wrote: Taj izraz mi je interesantan jer jedino korjen mogu naci u praznovjerju, paganizmu, bogumilstvu,... Dali je moguce da se taj izraz toliko dugo sacuvao sve vjekove,... ili je proizvod novijeg vremena.

Čuo sam i ja da kako je jedan moj o'sov'o troboga... Kol'ko bi to moglo bit' staro?

i ja sam cuo za psovanje supe od bozjih kostiju... svakakvih likova, a autor teme postavlja neodgovoriva pitanja

ma ima garant veze s bogumilskim dualizmom...ne kontam sta bi drugo moglo biti

Ereinion wrote:Mozda ovdje ima odgovora:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog

Pa ovo je nevjerovatno

A veneration of this deity perhaps survived in folklore of several Slavic nations. In some South Slavic vernaculars, there exists an interesting phrase do zla boga (meaning "to [the] evil god," or perhaps "to [the] evil [of] God," which may denote ownership rather than some dark attribute), used as an attribute to express something which is exceedingly negative. No-one is really aware of the literal meaning of these words anymore; exclamations such as Ovo je do zla boga dosadno!, To je do zla boga glupo! can be safely translated as "This is devilishly boring!", "That is immensely stupid!" without any klix loss in meaning. The word Bog ("God"), however, in all Slavic languages today is used as personal name of the Christian God, who is not considered evil; thus, the expression zli bog, "evil god", could be a relic from pagan antiquity. If we assume that Chernobog indeed was an evil and dark god of the ancient Slavs (or perhaps merely an evil aspect of some other deity), we may conjecture this expression was some ancient curse invoking him.


Zar je moguce da se izraz sacuvao vise od 1000 god.?
I to samo u centralnoj Bosni?

Moj prijatelj cesto koristi taj izraz.Nekada je pravo iritirajuce jer tu frazu koristi precesto.

Orbini wrote:

Ereinion wrote:Mozda ovdje ima odgovora:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog

Pa ovo je nevjerovatno

A veneration of this deity perhaps survived in folklore of several Slavic nations. In some South Slavic vernaculars, there exists an interesting phrase do zla boga (meaning "to [the] evil god," or perhaps "to [the] evil [of] God," which may denote ownership rather than some dark attribute), used as an attribute to express something which is exceedingly negative. No-one is really aware of the literal meaning of these words anymore; exclamations such as Ovo je do zla boga dosadno!, To je do zla boga glupo! can be safely translated as "This is devilishly boring!", "That is immensely stupid!" without any klix loss in meaning. The word Bog ("God"), however, in all Slavic languages today is used as personal name of the Christian God, who is not considered evil; thus, the expression zli bog, "evil god", could be a relic from pagan antiquity. If we assume that Chernobog indeed was an evil and dark god of the ancient Slavs (or perhaps merely an evil aspect of some other deity), we may conjecture this expression was some ancient curse invoking him.


Zar je moguce da se izraz sacuvao vise od 1000 god.?
I to samo u centralnoj Bosni?

U sjeveroistocnoj, takodje

guardian wrote:

Orbini wrote:

Ereinion wrote:Mozda ovdje ima odgovora:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog

Pa ovo je nevjerovatno

A veneration of this deity perhaps survived in folklore of several Slavic nations. In some South Slavic vernaculars, there exists an interesting phrase do zla boga (meaning "to [the] evil god," or perhaps "to [the] evil [of] God," which may denote ownership rather than some dark attribute), used as an attribute to express something which is exceedingly negative. No-one is really aware of the literal meaning of these words anymore; exclamations such as Ovo je do zla boga dosadno!, To je do zla boga glupo! can be safely translated as "This is devilishly boring!", "That is immensely stupid!" without any klix loss in meaning. The word Bog ("God"), however, in all Slavic languages today is used as personal name of the Christian God, who is not considered evil; thus, the expression zli bog, "evil god", could be a relic from pagan antiquity. If we assume that Chernobog indeed was an evil and dark god of the ancient Slavs (or perhaps merely an evil aspect of some other deity), we may conjecture this expression was some ancient curse invoking him.


Zar je moguce da se izraz sacuvao vise od 1000 god.?
I to samo u centralnoj Bosni?

U sjeveroistocnoj, takodje

I u Hercegovini, Slaveni su na ovim prostorima (BiH) opstali kao nigdje drugdje...

izraz se koristi ponekad i u gz sto ti biva istocna bosna

guardian wrote:U sjeveroistocnoj, takodje

Sjevero-zapadnoj... isti slucaj.

izraz je veoma cest i u hrvatskoj i srbiji, tako da ne mislim da je neka bih specificnost.
vjerovatnija mi je mogucnost da je ostatak paganizma jer, kako vidimo, slicne izraze imaju i sloveni koji nisu otisli 'vako daleko na jug.

do zla Boga = do vela havle

do zla bloga