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#1 ako ste zavrsili ili trenutno studirate MBA

Posted: 01/12/2007 20:41
by Vozdra_123
koji fax
koju specijalizaciju
zasto se izbrali navedene
da li bi ste isto ponovo
itd...

hvala

#2

Posted: 01/12/2007 22:53
by Vozdra_123
pa zar niko?

imamo doktora, lawyera, inzinjera, a nema biZnisMena/zena

#3

Posted: 01/12/2007 22:56
by Baby Jane
Ja studiram biznis i njemacki....3. god...racunam li se ja??

#4

Posted: 02/12/2007 06:25
by Vozdra_123
MBA = masters of business administration

ti si vjerovatno bachelor degree?

#5

Posted: 02/12/2007 06:59
by Krugman
Definitivno preporucujem. Gdje namjeravas ici?

1. Za pocetak bi ti preporucio MBA u Americi, ne u Europi - Amerikanci su puno prakticniji i naucices jako mnogo stvari koje ces moci primjeniti direktno u karijeri. Europski MBA-ovi, kao i njihovi mnogi drugi smjerovi, su nazalost optereceni bezpotrebnom teorijom i izgubiti ces jako puno vremena strebajuci stvari koje ti nikada nece biti potrebne u praksi.

2. Idi na sto jacu skolu u koju mozes upasti bez obzira na cijenu, pogotovo ako zelis traziti zaposlenje na Zapadu poslije MBA-a. MBA je velikim dijelom "networking," odnosno stratesko uvezivanje sa ljudima koje ce ti sluziti dozivotno za razne vrste potreba. Jaka i respektabilna skola ce ti ponuditi infrastrukturu kontakata u svim poljima i na vrhunskim mjestima koji ce ti biti dostupni za sve vrste savjeta i preporuka.

Toliko od mene. Sretno.

#6

Posted: 02/12/2007 07:32
by Krugman
I jos nesto: stekni barem 3 godine relevantnog radnog iskustva prije MBA-a, puno bolje i lakse ces kapirati mnoge stvari, i moci ces doprinjeti razvoju drugih jer ces imati okosnicu. Vrhunske skole te nece ni uzeti u razmatranje bez barem 3-5 godina iskustva upravo iz tog razloga - jer im netrebaju streberi ili ljudi koji jure titule, nego ljudi koji su tu da sebe i druge pripreme za poslovne izazove.

#7

Posted: 02/12/2007 09:19
by Bosanac sa dna kace
ja najedvite jade doguro do 3.5 godine BA, po zanimanju bi trebo bit ja mislim medjunarodni odnosach, imal sad ko poso za mene kad zavrsim? :lol:

#8

Posted: 02/12/2007 17:36
by Vozdra_123
@krugman

imam 5+ godina iskustva
hocu da se upisem na neke kanadske skole

ovdje sam otvorio temu da cujem sta ljudi imaju reci uvezi bransi kao
operations, finance, accounting, consulting itd...

#9

Posted: 02/12/2007 18:02
by pitt
imam ja vozdrice.

Preporucio bih ti da ides na nekih od poznatijih programa .....nation ili regional. Ja sam zavrsio na pittu (KATZ). Sto se kvaliteta tice malo je slabiji od Teppera (CMU) a dosta jeftiniji.
Ja sam uzeo koncentraciju u finansijama jer mi je to bio i undergrad major a to mi je i posao. Izbor koncentracija je sve veci iz godine u godinu i imas jako dosta kombinacija (Engeenering & MBA, MIS & MBA, etc). Na diplomi mi nigdje ne pise dta mi je koncentracija ali se moze po transkriptu skontati. To radno iskustvo ti dosta znaci jer je i to jedna stvari koja utice na prijem (GMAT, iskustvo, undergrad ocjene, eseji, preporuke).

#10

Posted: 02/12/2007 18:04
by Baby Jane
Vozdra_123 wrote:MBA = masters of business administration

ti si vjerovatno bachelor degree?
Ma znam sta znaci, ali vidim niko ti se ne javlja, pa rekoh da ja dignem dva prsta :D ali bice akoBogda....

Nego, meni je profa nesto govorio za MSc, kaze da je to bolje od obicnih MBAs...pa ne znam...

#11

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:01
by Vozdra_123
Baby Jane wrote:
Vozdra_123 wrote:MBA = masters of business administration

ti si vjerovatno bachelor degree?
Ma znam sta znaci, ali vidim niko ti se ne javlja, pa rekoh da ja dignem dva prsta :D ali bice akoBogda....

Nego, meni je profa nesto govorio za MSc, kaze da je to bolje od obicnih MBAs...pa ne znam...
ma sve zavisi sta hoces da radis
ako hoces da specijaliziras onda je bolje uzeti msc
ako hoces nesto malo vise general onda mba

najbitnije je znati sta hoces... :-)
a obicno je to najteze skontati

#12

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:01
by Vozdra_123
pitt wrote:imam ja vozdrice.

Preporucio bih ti da ides na nekih od poznatijih programa .....nation ili regional. Ja sam zavrsio na pittu (KATZ). Sto se kvaliteta tice malo je slabiji od Teppera (CMU) a dosta jeftiniji.
Ja sam uzeo koncentraciju u finansijama jer mi je to bio i undergrad major a to mi je i posao. Izbor koncentracija je sve veci iz godine u godinu i imas jako dosta kombinacija (Engeenering & MBA, MIS & MBA, etc). Na diplomi mi nigdje ne pise dta mi je koncentracija ali se moze po transkriptu skontati. To radno iskustvo ti dosta znaci jer je i to jedna stvari koja utice na prijem (GMAT, iskustvo, undergrad ocjene, eseji, preporuke).
ok fala
poslacu ti pp sa par pitanja

#13

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:05
by pitt
ok, nema frke. pogledaj na Wall Street Journaj web stranici imaju li jos rankings i clanke o tome. A mislim da i The Economist ima nesto slicno.

#14

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:13
by pitt
News from the schools, November 2007

Nov 22nd 2007
From Economist.com



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Learning environment

With the current vogue for sustainability and growing concern about climate change, many American business schools are warming to the idea of carbon-neutral programmes. Thunderbird has become the latest to announce a “carbon-free degree”. The Arizona-based school will offset this year's carbon emissions by generating credits to be earned through the reduction of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere—notably through a reforestation project in Costa Rica.

The idea is essentially student-driven, says Thunderbird. Students will be invited to take part in the “Sustainable Innovation Challenge”, which aims to identify projects that shrink the school's “carbon footprint” in ways that pay for themselves. Gregory Unruh, a professor at the school, claimed that the project would make students “both knowledgeable about the sustainability problems facing business and capable of devising solutions that square economics with ecology.”

In the long run, Thunderbird hopes its graduates will come up with initiatives sufficient to compensate fully for the carbon footprints they leave behind during their years of stomping about campus. Other schools are also making gestures towards environmental awareness—over 400 institutions have signed on to the “American College and University Presidents Climate Commitment”—a pledge to work towards carbon-neutral campuses within two years.

Chemical reaction

As if improving business ethics were not enough. The Centre for Responsible Business at Berkeley's Haas School of Business is helping create a Centre for Sustainable Products. Dow Chemicals has given $10m to Haas and to Berkeley's College of Chemistry, to be used for research on how to address concerns about waste and other environmental issues into every stage of any given product's life-cycle.

Naturally Haas is pleased; Dow's gift allows the funding of student-led research. But others at Berkeley—once, famously, a hotbed of student radicalism—are less than delighted at Dow's involvement. The announcement attracted a protest of about 20 demonstrators, who cited the negligence of Union Carbide, now owned by Dow, which caused the devastating gas leak in Bhopal, India in 1984. (Greying protesters may even recall Dow's manufacture of napalm during the Vietnam war.) For the next two years, Dow will provide the programme with an executive-in-residence, to be charged with assuring it of continued financing.

Providing solutions

The University of North Carolina's Kenan-Flagler Business School has joined an initiative to provide greater access to safe drinking water. The Carolina Global Water Partnership, an alliance between the university's schools of business and public health, is charged with exploring ways to increase the availability of new technologies, such as ceramic water filters. Kenan-Flagler hopes to help identify ways in which private firms, including entrepreneurs working with microfinance loans, might be able to facilitate distribution. The first phase of research is tentatively set to take place in the Mekong region of South-East Asia.

Not making a name for yourself

Late October saw a shocking announcement from University of Wisconsin-Madison: generous alumni have donated $85m to not rename its business school. The gift—the largest in the school's history—came from the “Wisconsin Naming Partnership”, a group of 13 alumni who each contributed a minimum of $5m to preserve the current name—plain Wisconsin School of Business—for the next 20 years. The school said the move would “uphold tradition and greatly enhance the value of the school to students, the campus and the state.”

Which marks a welcome change: barely a month goes by without news of another school renaming itself after some benefactor—it cost Stephen Ross $100m to persuade the University of Michigan to rename its business school in his honour; Ian Telfer bought the equivalent for $25m, from the University of Ottawa. Indeed, it was reported that Michael Knetter, Wisconsin's dean, had been willing to consider $50m offers for naming rights—until the alumni arrived, with their grander and yet self-effacing donation.

Virginia seeks partner

Robert F. Bruner, dean of the University of Virginia's Darden School of Business, has been to India in search of potential partners to offer the school's programmes there. With schools under pressure to build their presence in emerging economies, Darden's move follows the likes of Harvard Business School, which will offer a six-day executive programme in India from next year, priced at $4,500: about half the cost of a similar programme, with a similar name, offered in Boston. But Darden, perhaps mindful that it doesn't have pockets quite so deep as Harvard's, has decided not to go it alone.

Dean Bruner believes a partnership will allow Darden to run competitively-priced programmes without losing money, as well as to offer a culturally-sensitive approach. “The truth is that we are not so self-confident as to believe that we can anticipate the specific needs and cultural practices that businesses face in India,” local media quoted him as saying. Darden is also looking into establishing a research centre in India.

Quant-u-want

Perhaps because “master's programme in mathematics in finance” sounds a bit dull, New York University's Stern School of Business is advertising its new joint degree as the “super-quant degree”, whose holders will be able to get jobs on Wall Street faster even than a speeding bullet might. Students enrolled in the programme, co-hosted by Stern and NYU's Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, will earn both an MBA and a master's of science in mathematics in finance, in only three years, by taking courses at both institutions.

The programme is scheduled to commence in the autumn of 2008. Courant notes that while work experience is not required for admission (prospective students must apply to both degree programmes separately), they do expect to find in each good applicant an understanding of multivariate calculus, linear algebra and the Gaussian distribution.

Heavy lifting

Carey Business School at Johns Hopkins University has announced the appointment of its first dean: Yash P. Gupta, previously dean at the University of Southern California's Marshall School of Business. Mr Gupta has already served as dean to the business schools of the University of Washington and the University of Denver.

Mr Gupta is scheduled to take up his post from January 1st 2008. His brief is daunting. Carey—which only launched in January 2007—is impatient to become a leading player. To do so, it will need to gain accreditation and to invest heavily in research faculty. Mr Gupta must also oversee the design of the school's curriculum, which is likely to play to the university's strengths in science, health and technology.

Streets of gold

In late October, China Europe International Business School (CEIBS) opened a new centre for finance research in Lujiazui, a district of Shanghai with a strong banking presence. The CEIBS Lujiazui International Finance Research Centre is expected to work as a think-tank and as a consultant to local governments, as well as to provide classes in finance. CEIBS, a not-for-profit school created in 1994, was co-founded by the city of Shanghai and the European Union. The municipal government is hoping that the centre will help boost Lujiazui's international profile; Han Zheng, Shanghai's mayor, led the official dedication.

Work and play

Will the next generation of MBA students be learning from video games? Students at Manchester Business School already are. Manchester is reportedly the first British school to implement “Innov8,” a game designed to teach “business process management” (BPM) and offered free to universities by IBM. Players take on the role of a character working for “After Inc”, a fictional firm, and strive to keep their virtual employees happy and while taking into account the business’s various other objectives. The interactive game also does a turn at helping IBM to promote the proprietary software it has designed to facilitate BPM decisions.

Ship comes in

In early November, Cass Business School at City University London announced the establishment of the Onassis Prize in Shipping, Trade and Finance. The prize, sponsored by the Onassis Public Benefit Foundation, which was founded by the Greek shipping legend, Aristotle Onassis, aims to “recognise a lifetime contribution by a leading academic in the area of shipping, trade or finance”.

The prize of $250,000 will be awarded biennially, starting in 2008. Cass says it will mark achievements in areas that have lacked a platform for recognition. Professor Costas Grammenos, director of the Centre for Shipping, Trade and Finance at Cass, said London, for many centuries a shipping hub, makes a fitting home for the award.

#15

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:17
by Baby Jane
Vozdra_123 wrote:
Baby Jane wrote:
Vozdra_123 wrote:MBA = masters of business administration

ti si vjerovatno bachelor degree?
Ma znam sta znaci, ali vidim niko ti se ne javlja, pa rekoh da ja dignem dva prsta :D ali bice akoBogda....

Nego, meni je profa nesto govorio za MSc, kaze da je to bolje od obicnih MBAs...pa ne znam...
ma sve zavisi sta hoces da radis
ako hoces da specijaliziras onda je bolje uzeti msc
ako hoces nesto malo vise general onda mba

najbitnije je znati sta hoces... :-)
a obicno je to najteze skontati
Pa da, ja sam kontala nesto oko "organisational behaviour -a" ganjati. HRM i to...

MBA je nema fokusa, vise je onako generalan

#16

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:19
by leonard
Baby Jane wrote:
Vozdra_123 wrote:MBA = masters of business administration

ti si vjerovatno bachelor degree?
Ma znam sta znaci, ali vidim niko ti se ne javlja, pa rekoh da ja dignem dva prsta :D ali bice akoBogda....

Nego, meni je profa nesto govorio za MSc, kaze da je to bolje od obicnih MBAs...pa ne znam...
Da li se tvoj profa pozivao na Multiple Sclerosis? Po stepenu obrazovanja, MBA je iznad undergrad-a, a ispod PhD-a. Moras usporedjivati identicne pojmove! Inace, ja se slazem sa misljenjem koje favorizira kvalited US MBA programa od istih u Europi.

#17

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:22
by Vozdra_123
ma ima tih milion rankingsa

skole koje gledam su
western
toronto
queens
york

#18

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:22
by pitt
Chicago careers ahead

Sep 28th 2007
From the Economist Intelligence Unit


Chicago tops the Economist Intelligence Unit's latest ranking of full-time MBA programmes. It is a brilliant careers office that sets the best schools apart

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“THEY are horrible, and the worst at trying to find you a job. If you want one, you've got to find one yourself.” So says a student at a middle-ranked British business school when asked to rate his careers service for the Economist Intelligence Unit's 2007 full-time MBA ranking. It is perhaps the most common complaint among MBA students.

When we asked potential MBA students why they had decided to study the degree, the most popular reason given was “to open new career opportunities”. This shouldn't be surprising: the MBA is still at heart a degree designed for those looking to change from functional specialists to general managers. But with students now putting as much emphasis on this aspect of an MBA as they do on the academic experience, it has become a key battleground for business schools.


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Take Chicago, for example. Top of our new ranking, it is also rated first by students for its careers services. Within three months of graduation 97% of its students are in jobs, the vast majority of them facilitated by the careers office. Students wax lyrical about the support that they receive. “It goes way beyond anything I expected in preparing us for recruiting,” says one. “I had no idea how big this was here.”

It is a similar story at the other schools at the top of our rankings. Stanford, IESE and Dartmouth, for example, are similarly lauded for their careers services. It is partly a matter of resources. The top schools have a careers office staff of as many as 20—not a cheap undertaking by any means. But it is not just a numbers game. According to Stacey Kole, deputy dean of Chicago's full-time MBA programme, what sets the top schools apart is that they treat recruiters as strategic partners. They work together with firms to work out the most effective way of helping them to find talent. Obvious as this may sound, it is not always the way that things are done in business education. According to Ms Kole, many schools even take an adversarial approach to potential recruiters. “They have rules they can't break,” she says. “For example, firms aren't allowed more than two campus events a year. We don't have these arbitrary control mechanisms; we have more bend.”

A professional relationship with recruiters is only one side of the coin, though. To be fully effective, careers officers need a genuine concern for students' ambitions. The careers process needs to be customised, with staff in effect acting as consultants. This is particularly important as students become both more picky about their career paths and more vociferous when schools fail to match their high standards.

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Until relatively recently most MBA graduates trod the well-worn path from business school classroom to consultancy firm. This meant that the crop of firms that careers officers had to cultivate was fairly small. But now students' needs are more diverse. Jobs in sectors that were barely on schools' radar ten years ago, such as private equity or real estate, are now demanded. As a result, careers officers find themselves constantly on the road, making contact with new firms. Nine of the top ten schools in our rankings placed their graduates into at least eight different industry sectors in 2007.

Interestingly, this diversification of students' career needs means that arguably a school should be judged less on the basis of how much its graduates earn—a staple measure in most rankings (we assign a 10% weighting to increase in salary). A school that places 90% of its graduates into consulting and financial services firms will undoubtedly do well in any measure of earnings, and certainly better than one whose graduates are also to be found in the healthcare or not-for-profit sectors, for example. But it would be difficult to argue that the former has a more effective careers office. In any case, the top schools hardly fall short on the salary front. Dartmouth MBAs can expect to earn a basic salary of $100,000, and those graduating from IMD a whopping $120,000.

So, to what extent should students expect to be spoon-fed interviews with top firms, and how much effort should they be expected to put into setting up their own opportunities? On arrival at Chicago, the school's dean, Ted Snyder, tells students that they are expected to own their personal career search. The school will coach, advise and facilitate meetings, but, he says, the careers service is determinedly not a careers placement office. Sometimes managing expectations can be the hardest job of all.

#19

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:26
by pitt
evo ovdje imas najnovije ranking za cijeli svijet kao i detaljni opis za svaku skolu i karakteristike. Ovo ti najbolje moze pomoci jer su i cijene izlistane kao sve ostalo sto je potrebno :D

http://mba.eiu.com/index.asp?layout=2002rankings

#20

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:32
by Vozdra_123
thanks!

#21

Posted: 02/12/2007 20:41
by pitt
a pocni spremati GMAT. Kupi knjige on line od gmata i kaplana. sa njima dodju i practice testovi....hard copies i dvds :D

#22

Posted: 02/12/2007 21:44
by Vozdra_123
pitt wrote:a pocni spremati GMAT. Kupi knjige on line od gmata i kaplana. sa njima dodju i practice testovi....hard copies i dvds :D
kupio uradio i zadovoljan :D

#23

Posted: 02/12/2007 21:58
by pitt
masala onda. Pogledaj prosjecne rezultate.....obicno se gleda prosjek prosle generacije. Meni je engleski bio tezi od matematike.....hebli ih oni clanci iz naucnih zurnala :D:D:D

#24

Posted: 02/12/2007 22:08
by Vozdra_123
pitt wrote:masala onda. Pogledaj prosjecne rezultate.....obicno se gleda prosjek prosle generacije. Meni je engleski bio tezi od matematike.....hebli ih oni clanci iz naucnih zurnala :D:D:D
preko sam prosjeka svih skola tako da nisam zabrinut za to

znam ba bio je engleski zaheban...
ma i matematicke zadatke znaju zakomplikovati engleskim.
pogotovo one data sufficiency...

#25

Posted: 02/12/2007 22:14
by pitt
al kad pogledas rjesenja...svaki zadatak je "jednostavan"....samo sto rjesenje nikada nije ocigledno. I cinjenica da ne dobijas poene za oko pola problema koje u stvari testiraju za sljedecu verziju testa :D