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#1 Isjecci iz Talmuda, istina ili laz?

Posted: 16/09/2006 00:39
by SherlockHolmes
Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Where a Jew Should Do Evil

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full.

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

WAIT...THERE'S MORE -

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile klix are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."
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#2

Posted: 16/09/2006 01:16
by Abu FEED el-Castro
I onda neko dodje i veli mojne antisemitizam :-) tz tz tz
Sve je vise nego jasno... Mislim, meni su cifuti skroz ok, ali... ali zapravo mi nisu ok :D

#3 Re: Isjecci iz Talmuda, istina ili laz?

Posted: 16/09/2006 01:36
by danas
SherlockHolmes wrote:
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."
:shock: :shock: :shock:
pa zahvaljujes li se svevisnjem svakog dana :D :D

PS a nista se ne sekiraj, sad ce doci dezurn rabin (poucen primjerima dezurnih hodza i svecenika na ovom forumu) da ti objasni kako ovo sto pise nije to sto pise, nego je pogresno protumaceno i izvadjeno iz konteksta :D jer bog je bog ljubavi :D :lol: :lol: :lol:

oplaka' sviju mi... :lol: :lol: :lol:

#4

Posted: 16/09/2006 01:42
by SherlockHolmes
aha, svaki dan kad mirnesu dovu proucim :D

#5

Posted: 16/09/2006 06:28
by stickitout
:lol: :lol: Nije to nista cudno. Prvi poslanik Mojsije (naravno ljubitelj prirode i pustinje) je pricao sa zapaljenim grmom. Zapravo, zapaljeni grm mu se obratio. Kakav grm je u pitanju nije precizno navedeno?! Na Engleskom je to "Burning bush", sto je veoma zanimljivo, uzimajuci u obzir da rastafarijanci sa Jamajke (porijeklom iz Ziona) koriste isti termin za pusenje trave. :lol: :lol:

#6

Posted: 17/09/2006 01:45
by mr__bosnjak
Nisam citao Talmud. A to je valjda tumacenje Tevrata. Allah zasigurno tu zlo nije Napisao. Ovo je ili pogresno protumaceno(u Talmudu) ili neka lazna verzija Tevrata(objave Musau a.s. od Allaha). Ili je cista izmisljotina. Imamo li Jevreja da potvrdi ili nekoga ko poznaje jevrejstvo?

#7

Posted: 17/09/2006 21:18
by Vladimir Ilic
poznajem "jevrejsko" ali tekst je pisan na "englesko"

#8

Posted: 17/09/2006 21:50
by aNTropocentrio
Ja već dugo tražim Talmud. Čuo sam neke prilično fascinante stvari iz njega.

Je li ovo tačno, pogrešno prevedeno ili šta već, nisam siguran.
Mada sam siguran da se kod svih religija mnoge stvari potpuno pogrešno tumače.

#9

Posted: 18/09/2006 03:57
by Shoshana
Nesto od ovoga gore je zaista izvuceno iz konteksta, nesto nije u upotrebi od 400 i neke nase ere, ali je (vise-manje) tako kako je napisano.

Za utjehu je da se (kao na primjer sarija u islamu) ovi tekstovi smatraju zakonodavnim samo od strane ortodoksnih jevreja. Vecina modernih jevreja praktikuje tzv reformirani judeizam i smatra talmud vise historijskim tekstom nego zakonikom.

@Antropo, evo ti link za Babilonski talmud sa objasnjenjima i komentarima
http://www.come-and-hear.com/tcontents.html

ali ti isto preporucujem (ako te vec zanima) da prvo procitas malo o talmudu, npr
http://www.answers.com/topic/talmud