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#1
Posted: 25/07/2006 20:43
by shiljak
pa sta
#2
Posted: 25/07/2006 21:24
by La_Forge
.. interesujem se i za komponente a i ekonomiju ....
šta li će se sada mijenjati ? (osim dividendi dioničara i etiketa)
ostaje li ime ATI ili sve prelazi pod AMD ... ?
#3
Posted: 25/07/2006 21:31
by Qler
sad ce biti guravo

sad ce nvidia da proizvodi svoje procesore

pa ce biti sex

na IT sceni

#4
Posted: 25/07/2006 21:41
by Qler
e to cemo jos da vidimo.... nadam se gornji

i da ce nvidia napraviti nesto dobro... gotivim amd al' ati ne mogu nikako.. imao 9800pro dao je za 5900xt GF

:D
#5
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:00
by Vozdra_123
@ostro
hebe me se za ostale
meni dionice odose gore tako da sam ja gornji

#6
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:10
by shin
AMD je igrao na kartu da ima stalnog dobavljaca za north/southbidge cipove jer zavise od drugih firmi na tom polju. Druga stvar je da se AMD gura na polje notebook racunara na kojem im je potrebna integrisana grafika kao i dobar chipset (na kojem je polju ATi dobar). U glavnom ovo je neka vrsta fuzije koja je dobro dosla. ATi ce moci raditi chipove u AMD fabrikama ne treba vise da se gura u red kod TSMC/UMC semiconductora.
BTW deal iznosi 5 250 000 000

#7
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:31
by A_I_
...
#8
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:31
by shin
Da nije bilo AMD-a jos bi mi kupovali P3 procesore za 2000$
#9
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:45
by ztluhcs
NVidia bila platformski logièniji izbor za merge... Nevermind...
#10
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:48
by A_I_
shin wrote:AMD je igrao na kartu da ima stalnog dobavljaca za north/southbidge cipove jer zavise od drugih firmi na tom polju. Druga stvar je da se AMD gura na polje notebook racunara na kojem im je potrebna integrisana grafika kao i dobar chipset (na kojem je polju ATi dobar). U glavnom ovo je neka vrsta fuzije koja je dobro dosla. ATi ce moci raditi chipove u AMD fabrikama ne treba vise da se gura u red kod TSMC/UMC semiconductora.
BTW deal iznosi 5 250 000 000

stvari idu PUUUNO dublje od toga - namely amd-ov cilj je prikupiti tehnologiju potrebnu za sljedecu generaciju potpuno drugacijih procesora, onih koji ce objediniti posao danasnjeg cpu-a i gpu-a...
zamisli da ces za koju godinu na svakoj ploci imadi po 2 npr. AM2 socketa - jedan za dual/quad core cpu a drugi za gpu i koji ce dijeliti velike l2 'kesheve' sistemski ram. bice puno bolje povezani nego ovi danasnji s pcie, bolje rijeseno hladjenje gpu-dijela tog sistema itd itd...
kao i obicno theinquirer medju prvima je doznao za (moguce) spajanje; interesantan osvrt dao je legenda charlie:
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33219
#11
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:52
by shin
Inquirer je smetljarski sajt (zuta stampa, al ubodu nekad)
Slijedece godine nam dolazi 4x4 platforma za AMD (ploca sa dva AM2 socketa i dva dvojezgrena procesora) ludilo
Pa zatim K8L arhitektura.
Ja sam inace AMD fanboy

#12
Posted: 25/07/2006 22:52
by A_I_
ztluhcs wrote:NVidia bila platformski logičniji izbor za merge... Nevermind...
po charliu, s kojim se slazem, uopste nije:
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33219
amd-nvidia ljubav je samo privid. to ne postoji u (it) industriji... biznis biznis planiranje saradnja ulaganje spajanje kupovina bla bla
#13
Posted: 25/07/2006 23:03
by A_I_
shin wrote:Inquirer je smetljarski sajt (zuta stampa, al ubodu nekad)
ubadaju oni redovno...
shin wrote:Slijedece godine nam dolazi 4x4 platforma za AMD (ploca sa dva AM2 socketa i dva dvojezgrena procesora) ludilo
Pa zatim K8L arhitektura.
sve je to kratkorocno... k8l je nadogradnja k8...ono sto dolazi iza k8l je revolucija u industriji. cell i niagara su pretece...
#14
Posted: 26/07/2006 00:50
by ulicar
The Inquirer
http://www.theinquirer.net i The Register
http://www.theregister.co.uk su najbolji tech sajtovi koje mozes pratiti. Uz njih jos Groklaw
http://www.groklaw.net i ti si miran sa vijestima iz tehnike, puno prije nego ZD i drugi skontaju da se nesto desava.
shin wrote:Inquirer je smetljarski sajt (zuta stampa, al ubodu nekad)
Slijedece godine nam dolazi 4x4 platforma za AMD (ploca sa dva AM2 socketa i dva dvojezgrena procesora) ludilo
Pa zatim K8L arhitektura.
Ja sam inace AMD fanboy

#15
Posted: 26/07/2006 09:57
by shin
Evo primjer bustanog hoaxa koji je pustio Fuad Abazovic sa Inquirera i kamarila, naravno nije tacan.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3400
#16
Posted: 26/07/2006 10:07
by ztluhcs
Mnogo pametnije stvari se daju proèitati po raznim forumima i komentarima èitalaca news portala èiji je cilj tehnika radi tehnike a ne senzacionalizam vijesti...
#17
Posted: 26/07/2006 10:25
by shin
Vise volim pogledat stanje na Anandtech ili Tecreport, dajgle ovo.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32171
This time, British computing tabloid, The Inquirer, is running a piece titled, "PS3 hardware slow and broken." It's full of the usual Inquirer stuff: bad spelling, horrible grammar, and (most importantly) specious arguments. So, before we even get to what they're claiming, understand that their story could be considered entertainment, much the way the Enquirer is. Here goes:
An Inquirer writer had the good fortune to sit next to Anonymous Guy on a recent flight to Japan who dished about the PS3's new Cell and RSX chips. "Oh my God, did you hear? Cell is like, totally broken and junk. It's MBs are all, like, messed up where the GBs should be ... and stuff." Alright, that's not a direct quote, but a decent approximation. It isn't worth going through and breaking down the arguments since a little common sense would go much further.
fakat zuta stampa
#18
Posted: 26/07/2006 11:14
by ztluhcs
ostro i na prvu wrote:ztluhcs wrote:Mnogo pametnije stvari se daju proèitati po raznim forumima i komentarima èitalaca news portala èiji je cilj tehnika radi tehnike a ne senzacionalizam vijesti...
slazem se da se na forumima mogu procitati pametne stvari ali ako hoces da budes u toku iz polja koje te interesuje onda "moras" nekad i prelistati zutu stapmu jer oni nekad znaju prije ostalih sta se desava i sta se treba desiti.
Ne¹to kao Svet i "Ekspres"?

#19
Posted: 26/07/2006 11:20
by shin
X2 3800 ide ispod 400 mambi kod nas, provjereno radi na 2.7ghz. Ja sam sebi narucio jedan planiram makar 2.4ghz da bacim X2 4800 na koljena

#20
Posted: 26/07/2006 13:40
by ulicar
Pa oni su poznati po tome da izmisljaju imena za firme (Microsoft = Vole), da im je gramatika i sve to pomalo strano, da pisu normalnim jezikom za geekove clanke koji ce biti zabavni za citanje, a ne samo suho ispucavanje cinjenica i da kada ti kazu prije haman godinu dana da ce AMD kupiti ATI (u doba kada je NVIDIA bila preferirani snabdjevac), onda imas razloga da im kazes "svaka cast". Ja preferiram Register, mada mi je i Inquirer super.
shin wrote:Vise volim pogledat stanje na Anandtech ili Tecreport, dajgle ovo.
fakat zuta stampa
#21
Posted: 26/07/2006 14:44
by A_I_
shin wrote:Vise volim pogledat stanje na Anandtech ili Tecreport, dajgle ovo.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32171
This time, British computing tabloid, The Inquirer, is running a piece titled, "PS3 hardware slow and broken." It's full of the usual Inquirer stuff: bad spelling, horrible grammar, and (most importantly) specious arguments. So, before we even get to what they're claiming, understand that their story could be considered entertainment, much the way the Enquirer is. Here goes:
An Inquirer writer had the good fortune to sit next to Anonymous Guy on a recent flight to Japan who dished about the PS3's new Cell and RSX chips. "Oh my God, did you hear? Cell is like, totally broken and junk. It's MBs are all, like, messed up where the GBs should be ... and stuff." Alright, that's not a direct quote, but a decent approximation. It isn't worth going through and breaking down the arguments since a little common sense would go much further.
fakat zuta stampa
takva suplja prica tipicna je za (ati/nvidia/amd/intel/ps/xbox)fanboye
uvijek imas papteticne koji ce se uvrijediti spomenes li im u negativnom kontextu fanboy kompaniju/proizvod...
#22
Posted: 26/07/2006 14:54
by ztluhcs
Glavna *ebaèica se ne gura svjesno u zagrljaj najljuæem neprijatelju zato ¹to misli¹ da ona preko ceste ima bolju guzu...
#23
Posted: 31/07/2006 02:02
by A_I_
shin wrote:Vise volim pogledat stanje na Anandtech ili Tecreport, dajgle ovo.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32171
This time, British computing tabloid, The Inquirer, is running a piece titled, "PS3 hardware slow and broken." It's full of the usual Inquirer stuff: bad spelling, horrible grammar, and (most importantly) specious arguments. So, before we even get to what they're claiming, understand that their story could be considered entertainment, much the way the Enquirer is. Here goes:
An Inquirer writer had the good fortune to sit next to Anonymous Guy on a recent flight to Japan who dished about the PS3's new Cell and RSX chips. "Oh my God, did you hear? Cell is like, totally broken and junk. It's MBs are all, like, messed up where the GBs should be ... and stuff." Alright, that's not a direct quote, but a decent approximation. It isn't worth going through and breaking down the arguments since a little common sense would go much further.
fakat zuta stampa
ma ja nego sta
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32978