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#1 Europska unija dala Turskoj zeleno svijetlo!

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:02
by da pamtis
EU MPs add provisos to Turkey bid

Turkey rejects bids to allow les than full entry to the EU bloc
The European Union parliament has backed plans to start talks on Turkish accession, but insisted on a number of provisos before it is allowed entry.
MPs insisted Ankara recognise the killings of thousands of Armenians in 1915 as genocide. Turkey denies that the killings were systematic.

MPs also postponed a vote on ratifying Turkey's customs arrangements because of its refusal to recognise Cyprus.

Neither decision affects entry talks which are due to start on 3 October.

The negotiations, once started, are expected to take about 10 years.

The European Commission said the postponement of the vote was an "own goal" by the parliament.

The Armenian killings have long been a taboo subject in Turkey. Armenians, supported by 15 countries, including France, Switzerland, Russia and Argentina, accuses the then Ottoman rulers of carrying out a "genocide".

Turkey disputes the charge, saying that a few hundred thousand died and that the deaths occurred in a civil war in which many Turks were also killed.

But Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan did condemn a Turkish court's decision to order the cancellation of a conference about the killings which was due to have been held last week.

Vetoes await

Further talks about Turkey's accession are set for Thursday to try to resolve a deadlock over the question of the negotiating framework for Turkish membership.

Turkey has been clear that it will not accept the option of privileged partnership, which Austria is pushing to be inserted into the negotiating framework; only full membership will do.

The BBC's Jonny Dymond says that even if they get the framework they want, the membership process will be a long and painful one.

This is partly because so much needs to be done by Turkey to adapt itself to EU rules. It needs to absorb the 80,000 page long EU rule book into its domestic law.

One member state has already boasted about the number of potential vetoes it has during the negotiations process. There is also the question of Turkey's continuing human rights reform process.

Expectations

The European Commission has promised to monitor closely how Turkey proceeds. If it is deemed to be slipping backwards in theory or practice, then the commission will not hesitate to make its misgivings public.

To add to all the difficulties, there is the question of public expectations in Turkey.

Our correspondent says many Turks see the membership process as a genuine negotiation, a process of give and take. But by and large, Turkey has simply to do what it is told if it wants to join the club - which for many is a sharp change in culture, he adds.

Čak 356 zastupnika Europskog parlamenta danas je glasovalo za početak razgovora s Turskom.
Protiv ove inicijative bilo je njih 181, dok se 125 parlamentaraca suzdržalo od davanja svoga glasa.
:D sad ce vize....... :D

#2

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:05
by upala
noooooooooooooooooooooo :shock:


nije fer sad cemo samo u azerbejdzan bez viza moci :shock: :x

#3

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:09
by da pamtis
upala wrote:noooooooooooooooooooooo :shock:


nije fer sad cemo samo u azerbejdzan bez viza moci :shock: :x
:D da nas hoce turci priznati kao zaostalu koloniju mislim da bi i RS pristala :D samo da se utrpamo u EU :D

#4

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:12
by upala
da pamtis wrote:
upala wrote:noooooooooooooooooooooo :shock:


nije fer sad cemo samo u azerbejdzan bez viza moci :shock: :x
:D da nas hoce turci priznati kao zaostalu koloniju mislim da bi i RS pristala :D samo da se utrpamo u EU :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

u svakom slucaju puno srece evropi sa novih 15 mil arkadasa koji vec pakuju kofere za put ka eu :D :D :D :D

#5

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:12
by Chameleon05
EU je dala zeleno svjetlo za početak pregovora sa Turskom koji će trajati recimo negdje do 2015. godine ako ne i duže. Turska je jedna velika zemlja u kojoj dosta stvari ne štima. Realno Turskoj nije mjesto u EU jer bi se ulaskom Turske EU bavila uglavnom njenim vanjskim granicama u maloj aziji. Zato je najbolje Tursku primiti na kraju.

#6

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:14
by dinash
kako da zaustavim suze radosnice. :zzzz:

#7

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:28
by Chameleon05
dinash wrote:kako da zaustavim suze radosnice. :zzzz:
Uzmi "Violeta" papirne maramice. Kupujmo domaće!

#8

Posted: 28/09/2005 16:36
by Bosanac sa dna kace
da pamtis wrote:
upala wrote:noooooooooooooooooooooo :shock:


nije fer sad cemo samo u azerbejdzan bez viza moci :shock: :x
:D da nas hoce turci priznati kao zaostalu koloniju mislim da bi i RS pristala :D samo da se utrpamo u EU :D
ma dje svi Turci tu i mali Mujo! :D

#9

Posted: 28/09/2005 19:39
by humski
http://www.theottomans.org/english/index.asp

za sve koje puca nostalgija za Turskom

#10

Posted: 28/09/2005 19:46
by buhtelj
upala wrote:noooooooooooooooooooooo :shock:


nije fer sad cemo samo u azerbejdzan bez viza moci :shock: :x
Zamjeni putovnicu....i no frks

#11

Posted: 28/09/2005 22:40
by fadil schtil
da pamtis wrote:
upala wrote:noooooooooooooooooooooo :shock:


nije fer sad cemo samo u azerbejdzan bez viza moci :shock: :x
:D da nas hoce turci priznati kao zaostalu koloniju mislim da bi i RS pristala :D samo da se utrpamo u EU :D
genetski gledano, znaci po babu i po stricevima, srbi bi trebaki pristati.

#12

Posted: 29/09/2005 09:31
by Bosanac sa dna kace
fadil schtil wrote:
da pamtis wrote:
upala wrote:noooooooooooooooooooooo :shock:


nije fer sad cemo samo u azerbejdzan bez viza moci :shock: :x
:D da nas hoce turci priznati kao zaostalu koloniju mislim da bi i RS pristala :D samo da se utrpamo u EU :D
genetski gledano, znaci po babu i po stricevima, srbi bi trebaki pristati.
Pa kako da ne, kao sto vec rekoh ; kud svi Turci :D tu i mali Mujo! :D
Ah a sto li su Marmaris i Antalija puni turista iz Srbije.... :-D

#13

Posted: 29/09/2005 09:38
by da pamtis
genetski gledano
:D "mi" vec poceli pregovore sa EU :D sad ce vize :D

#14

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:00
by Zadig
Za Bosnu, ovo nista ne znaci, ali da je vijest, vijest je do stoji.

Turska je zemlja u kojoj se ne postivaju ljudska prava dovoljno, turska i dan danas zeli da pocne pregovore sa EU, a NEDOZVOLJAVAJU PUNOPRAVNOM clanu EU (kipru) da sa svojim brodovima dolaze u Turske luke, i dan danas!!!! da li su uopste i priznali kipar???

Toliko negativnih stvari vidim oko prikljucivanja turske EU, i toliko neregularnosti da mi stvarno nije jasno koji je motiv EU da im turska bude punopravni clan....
Jel kontaju evo jope jeftine radne snage dje moremo fabrike graditi....

:roll:

demise of the EU

#15

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:10
by virgo
Bogme će sad i Evropa pozeleniti :D

#16

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:16
by Zadig
nebih da skrecem sa teme, ali ako zaista sve nade polazemo u to da kad nas prime, bice nam dobro grdno se varamo

#17

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:21
by Stitch__
ne lazi!!!

100% nije EU dala svIjetlo!!!!

svjetlo mozda i jest :D

#18

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:21
by flora.sa
Zadig wrote:nebih da skrecem sa teme, ali ako zaista sve nade polazemo u to da kad nas prime, bice nam dobro grdno se varamo
zadig, mi smo dno dna :D ...nema gore...može nam biti, eto bar za nijansu bolje... :D :D

#19

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:25
by Zadig
naslov oslobodjenja 2020:

EU konacno dala malu zelenu svijecu bosni i h. za prijem u pregovore u EU
:D

#20

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:50
by Fair Life
virgo wrote:Bogme će sad i Evropa pozeleniti :D
Image

#21

Posted: 29/09/2005 10:58
by upala
Fair Life wrote:
virgo wrote:Bogme će sad i Evropa pozeleniti :D
Image
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
najvise mi se svidja deutschland ups hocu reci nova turska :D

#22

Posted: 29/09/2005 11:01
by Stari
Eh ...ova mapa mi se pravo svidja ...samo bih imao nekoliko sitnijih zamjerki...recimo otkud Poljska "principality" (jel to knezevina? ...tip Monaco) , pa onda(k)...zasto Libija nije nista dobila kad vec Marokanci dobivaju Spanjolsku a Alzirci Franacku....Libiji i Tunisu nista? Nece to tako moci. Nego kako stoji situacija u pogledu osnivanja "Demokratske Narodne Republike Novi Juzni Vels"?


Makar u globalu, moram reci, vizija je.... vizionarska. :D

#23

Posted: 29/09/2005 12:06
by da pamtis
:D mapa je do yaya svaka cast fair :D sto je rusija velika :D a i nama nestao Neum :D ali nema veze samo nek su komsije u zelenom :D dabogda im crkla krava :D :D

#24

Posted: 29/09/2005 12:11
by Fair Life
da pamtis wrote:... ali nema veze samo nek su komsije u zelenom :D dabogda im crkla krava :D :D
Nek' je ona ziva... al' da 'presusi'.

#25

Posted: 29/09/2005 12:24
by da pamtis
Fair Life wrote:
da pamtis wrote:... ali nema veze samo nek su komsije u zelenom :D dabogda im crkla krava :D :D
Nek' je ona ziva... al' da 'presusi'.
:D pa to je jos gore ti si veci dusmanin od mene :D