#1 Do prije pet minuta sam jako postovao Papu Ivana Pavla II
Posted: 14/05/2004 21:48
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Vatican Warns Catholics Against Marrying Muslims
By Shasta Darlington
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican (news - web sites) warned Catholic women on Friday to think hard before marrying Muslim and urged Muslims to show more respect for human rights, gender equality and democracy.
Calling women "the least protected member of the Muslim family," it spoke of the "bitter experience" western Catholics had with Muslim husbands, especially if they married outside the Islamic world and later moved to his country of origin.
The comments in a document about migrants around the world were preceded by remarks about points of agreement between Christians and Muslims but they seemed likely to fuel mistrust between the world's two largest religions.
The document said the Church discouraged marriages between believers in traditionally Catholic countries and non-Christian migrants.
It hoped Muslims would show "a growing awareness that fundamental liberties, the inviolable rights of the person, the equal dignity of man and woman, the democratic principle of government and the healthy lay character of the state are principles that cannot be surrendered."
When a Catholic woman and Muslim man wanted to marry, it said, "bitter experience teaches us that a particularly careful and in-depth preparation is called for."
It said one possible problem was with Muslim in-laws and advised future mothers that they must insist on Church policy that children born of a mixed marriage be baptized and brought up as Catholics.
If the marriage is registered in the consulate of a Muslim country, the document said, the Catholic must be careful not to sign a document or swear an oath including the shahada, the Islamic profession of faith, which would amount to converting.
DIFFERENT APPROACHES
The document highlighted the contrasting approaches the Vatican has taken in recent years toward Islam, which has emerged as a strong rival for souls, especially in Africa.
Pope John Paul (news - web sites) has broken ground in dialogue with Muslims and even prayed in a mosque in Damascus. He won plaudits in the Muslim world for his strong opposition to the Iraq (news - web sites) war.
But Vatican officials and leading Catholic prelates have expressed increasingly critical views about the spread of Islam and the challenge this poses for Catholicism.
The Vatican's top theologian, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, said earlier this week the West "no longer loves itself" and so was unable to respond to the challenge of Islam, which was growing because it expressed "greater spiritual energy."
The migration document also discouraged churches from letting non-Christians use their places of worship.
This issue arose last month when Muslims in Spain asked to be able to pray in Cordoba cathedral, which was once a mosque. A senior Vatican official said this would be "problematic."
Discuss. Bas me zanima sta ljudi imaju reci na ovo. Papa Ivan je po mom misljenju jedan od najboljih papa ikad (nisam katolik i ne poznajem bas najbolje historiju Crkve, pa sam mozda i u krivu), ali ovo je ispod svakog nivoa. Ovaj ukaz je paternalizirajuci, arogantan i huntingtonski. Sta to Papa hoce da kaze, da treba da se razdvajamo, tj. da se ne bismo trebali previse priblizavati? Kakve su moguce reperkusije ovoga? Hoce li se opet pokazati da ljudi iz mjesovitih brakova (dakle oni koji su sirokih vidika i neoptereceni predrasudama) prvi najebu kad fasizam udje u modu? Da li je svaka slicnost izmedju Dzemaludina Latica i Vatikana slucajna? Ko je smjestio Zeki Rodzeru? Hvala!
Vatican Warns Catholics Against Marrying Muslims
By Shasta Darlington
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican (news - web sites) warned Catholic women on Friday to think hard before marrying Muslim and urged Muslims to show more respect for human rights, gender equality and democracy.
Calling women "the least protected member of the Muslim family," it spoke of the "bitter experience" western Catholics had with Muslim husbands, especially if they married outside the Islamic world and later moved to his country of origin.
The comments in a document about migrants around the world were preceded by remarks about points of agreement between Christians and Muslims but they seemed likely to fuel mistrust between the world's two largest religions.
The document said the Church discouraged marriages between believers in traditionally Catholic countries and non-Christian migrants.
It hoped Muslims would show "a growing awareness that fundamental liberties, the inviolable rights of the person, the equal dignity of man and woman, the democratic principle of government and the healthy lay character of the state are principles that cannot be surrendered."
When a Catholic woman and Muslim man wanted to marry, it said, "bitter experience teaches us that a particularly careful and in-depth preparation is called for."
It said one possible problem was with Muslim in-laws and advised future mothers that they must insist on Church policy that children born of a mixed marriage be baptized and brought up as Catholics.
If the marriage is registered in the consulate of a Muslim country, the document said, the Catholic must be careful not to sign a document or swear an oath including the shahada, the Islamic profession of faith, which would amount to converting.
DIFFERENT APPROACHES
The document highlighted the contrasting approaches the Vatican has taken in recent years toward Islam, which has emerged as a strong rival for souls, especially in Africa.
Pope John Paul (news - web sites) has broken ground in dialogue with Muslims and even prayed in a mosque in Damascus. He won plaudits in the Muslim world for his strong opposition to the Iraq (news - web sites) war.
But Vatican officials and leading Catholic prelates have expressed increasingly critical views about the spread of Islam and the challenge this poses for Catholicism.
The Vatican's top theologian, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, said earlier this week the West "no longer loves itself" and so was unable to respond to the challenge of Islam, which was growing because it expressed "greater spiritual energy."
The migration document also discouraged churches from letting non-Christians use their places of worship.
This issue arose last month when Muslims in Spain asked to be able to pray in Cordoba cathedral, which was once a mosque. A senior Vatican official said this would be "problematic."
Discuss. Bas me zanima sta ljudi imaju reci na ovo. Papa Ivan je po mom misljenju jedan od najboljih papa ikad (nisam katolik i ne poznajem bas najbolje historiju Crkve, pa sam mozda i u krivu), ali ovo je ispod svakog nivoa. Ovaj ukaz je paternalizirajuci, arogantan i huntingtonski. Sta to Papa hoce da kaze, da treba da se razdvajamo, tj. da se ne bismo trebali previse priblizavati? Kakve su moguce reperkusije ovoga? Hoce li se opet pokazati da ljudi iz mjesovitih brakova (dakle oni koji su sirokih vidika i neoptereceni predrasudama) prvi najebu kad fasizam udje u modu? Da li je svaka slicnost izmedju Dzemaludina Latica i Vatikana slucajna? Ko je smjestio Zeki Rodzeru? Hvala!
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