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Napadi na Iran se nastavljaju.
An Iranian actress who posted Instagram photos of herself without a hijab was forced to flee the country

http://www.businessinsider.com/iranian- ... am-2015-11
Kučka Šahova :D
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A vidi ovg lazova :-)

Saeed Abedini, a 35-year-old Pastor, father, and husband from Idaho, is currently imprisoned in Rajaei Shahr prison (formerly imprisoned in Evin prison in Tehran, Iran). On 28 July 2012, during a visit to Tehran to visit family and to finalize the board members for an orphanage he was building in Iran, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard detained Saeed, asserting that he must face criminal charges for his Christian faith. After intense interrogations, Saeed was placed under house arrest and told to wait for a court summons. On 26 September 2012, instead of receiving a summons telling him where to appear, five members of the Revolutionary Guard raided Saeed’s parents’ home in Tehran, confiscated many of Saeed’s belongings, and took him to an unknown location. After four days the Revolutionary Guard informed the family that Saeed was in solitary confinement in the notorious Evin Prison.
Throughout Saeed’s imprisonment, he has spent several weeks in solitary confinement. During solitary confinement, Saeed was only brought out of his small cell to be subjected to abusive interrogations. Saeed has been allowed visitation by his family in Tehran, but he has been cut off from his wife and two young children in the U.S.
Saeed had been denied medical treatment for infections that resulted from beatings. While in Evin, the ward doctor and nurse refused to treat him because, as a Christian, he was considered “unclean” and an infidel.
In early 2013, it became known that Saeed was suffering from internal injuries and doctors determined that his injuries warranted immediate attention, and, in their medical opinion, he needed to be treated in a non-prison hospital. For almost a year, the Iranian regime ignored this advice. In March 2014, Saeed was permitted to enter a private hospital for treatment, but after spending almost two months in the hospital, he was returned to prison without having been given surgeries deemed necessary by hospital doctors.
A petition has been started in Saeed’s name, and it quickly received overwhelming media attention. Secretary of State John Kerry has called for his release, the White House has called for his release, and the House of Representatives held two emotional hearings that highlighted Pastor Saeed’s plight. Multiple nations have called for Saeed’s release, and ACLJ attorneys have argued his case before the United Nations. Saeed’s petition has over 610,000 signatures and a letter writing campaign to encourage Saeed has garnered over 50,000 letters. Artists such as Toby Mac, Michael W Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, Mercy Me, Skillet, Relient K, and Audio Adrenaline have been involved, and lent their voices to raise awareness.
There is still much to be done. Keep up with Saeed's story through the Be Heard Project. Share his story on social media using #SaveSaeed and #BeHeard.
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#9953 Re: IRAN

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General War wrote:A vidi ovg lazova :-)

Saeed Abedini, a 35-year-old Pastor, father, and husband from Idaho, is currently imprisoned in Rajaei Shahr prison (formerly imprisoned in Evin prison in Tehran, Iran). On 28 July 2012, during a visit to Tehran to visit family and to finalize the board members for an orphanage he was building in Iran, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard detained Saeed, asserting that he must face criminal charges for his Christian faith. After intense interrogations, Saeed was placed under house arrest and told to wait for a court summons. On 26 September 2012, instead of receiving a summons telling him where to appear, five members of the Revolutionary Guard raided Saeed’s parents’ home in Tehran, confiscated many of Saeed’s belongings, and took him to an unknown location. After four days the Revolutionary Guard informed the family that Saeed was in solitary confinement in the notorious Evin Prison.
Throughout Saeed’s imprisonment, he has spent several weeks in solitary confinement. During solitary confinement, Saeed was only brought out of his small cell to be subjected to abusive interrogations. Saeed has been allowed visitation by his family in Tehran, but he has been cut off from his wife and two young children in the U.S.
Saeed had been denied medical treatment for infections that resulted from beatings. While in Evin, the ward doctor and nurse refused to treat him because, as a Christian, he was considered “unclean” and an infidel.
In early 2013, it became known that Saeed was suffering from internal injuries and doctors determined that his injuries warranted immediate attention, and, in their medical opinion, he needed to be treated in a non-prison hospital. For almost a year, the Iranian regime ignored this advice. In March 2014, Saeed was permitted to enter a private hospital for treatment, but after spending almost two months in the hospital, he was returned to prison without having been given surgeries deemed necessary by hospital doctors.
A petition has been started in Saeed’s name, and it quickly received overwhelming media attention. Secretary of State John Kerry has called for his release, the White House has called for his release, and the House of Representatives held two emotional hearings that highlighted Pastor Saeed’s plight. Multiple nations have called for Saeed’s release, and ACLJ attorneys have argued his case before the United Nations. Saeed’s petition has over 610,000 signatures and a letter writing campaign to encourage Saeed has garnered over 50,000 letters. Artists such as Toby Mac, Michael W Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, Mercy Me, Skillet, Relient K, and Audio Adrenaline have been involved, and lent their voices to raise awareness.
There is still much to be done. Keep up with Saeed's story through the Be Heard Project. Share his story on social media using #SaveSaeed and #BeHeard.
Uglavnom, jadni Saeed iz Idahoa je kriv samo zato sto je krscanin, stavise bas on je i "necisti nevjernik" pa ga stoga valja i zatvoriti, dok se 370.000 iranskih krscana secu ulicama i ovih dana slave blagdane? Sto ti je kleta sudbina. :D Inace, nikad nisam sebi do kraja razjasnio je li biti glup usud ili je to ipak stvar volje da se bude u tom stanju uma?
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#9954 Re: IRAN

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General War wrote:
salik79 wrote:Ex-German chancellor leading business delegation to Iran

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Former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder is in Iran for a four-day informal visit, according to IRNA.

Schroeder is leading a 27-man high-level delegation as part of the honorary chairman of the Berlin-based Near and Middle East Association (NUMOV) which promotes German business activities in the Mideast.

The 27-person group is mostly made up of representatives from German companies and the country’s economic sector.

The ex-chancellor is scheduled to meet with top Iranian officials, including Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council Ali Shamkhani, Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh and Minister of Industry, Mines and Trade Mohammad Reza Nematzadeh.

Schroeder is also slated to hold talks with Iranian Central Bank governor Valiollah Seif and Expediency Council Chairman Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.

Schroeder was initially supposed to travel to Iran in November, however, he had to call it off because of the passing away of former German chancellor Helmut Schmidt.




Za one manje upucene, sin od ovog "podebljanog" je onaj lik sto robija 10 - godisnju kaznu za korupciju. ;-)
Hajmo decki, barem jedan priblizan primjer, a nije da bas nema "materijala", od strane "slobodnog, nekorumpiranog, demokratskog zapada"!? :D
E jeste nasli (starog) emisara sebi :lol: po koji put taj vam se tip vrti po iranu?
Divan djecko je ovaj Schroeder...jucer pomagao slobodarskog Putina i zaradio mjesto u u Gaspromu, sad eto ga tebi u jos slobodarskiji Iran...predstavlja ...nikoga, gasprom rika pa trazi novo uhljebljenje...

Nismo mi. Nasla njemacka privredna delegacija. Pametni ljudi, koriste onoga koji je zrtvovao svoju poziciju otvorenim suprotstavljanjem americkoj vanjskoj politici. Njegove cuvene "dosta nam je vise cekovna knjizica diplomacije" se mnogi i danas sjecaju.

Moja poenta nije bio Schroeder. Poenta je bilo s kime se on sastaje. I poenta je na koliko godina robije je osudjen sin toga s kime se sastaje, a babo mu jedna od glavnih faca u Iranu.
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#9955 Re: IRAN

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General War wrote:
salik79 wrote: Sto se pitanja tice, najbolje bi bilo sacekati @Zvizdana, posto je on neuporedivo upuceniji. Cini mi se da neki dan rece da ako si Jevrej, krscanin, odnosno nemusliman, da mozes i na ulici cugnut (pretpostavljam ne i pijan hodati). Cega se ja sjecam iz dokumentarca National Geographica je da je onaj stari Jevrej, antikvar, "trzn'o" mrljinu ispod pulta, na sta je ovaj Nationalovac pravo iznenadjeno reagovao i pitao ga zar smije drzati i piti alkohol, a ovaj mu ono, nonsalantno sipajuci im pice u cokalje, odgovori - u smislu - "nista ti to, kad si sa mnom". :mrgreen:
Jesul pitali tog jevreja antikvara sto ispod pulta reze mrljinu, sta misli sto mu drzava ne priznaje holocaust?

Jesu. Veli da su to masmedijske ublehe, te dodaje da Iran svakako nema nista sa holokaustom.
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#9956 Re: IRAN

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Co0l wrote:Napadi na Iran se nastavljaju.
An Iranian actress who posted Instagram photos of herself without a hijab was forced to flee the country

http://www.businessinsider.com/iranian- ... am-2015-11
Kučka Šahova :D

Da pogledas koji od ovih "propagandnih" dokumentaraca (ne moras razumjeti, samo pogledati sliku bez tona) sve bi ti se samo kazalo.
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#9957 Re: IRAN

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zvizdan wrote:
General War wrote:A vidi ovg lazova :-)

Saeed Abedini, a 35-year-old Pastor, father, and husband from Idaho, is currently imprisoned in Rajaei Shahr prison (formerly imprisoned in Evin prison in Tehran, Iran). On 28 July 2012, during a visit to Tehran to visit family and to finalize the board members for an orphanage he was building in Iran, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard detained Saeed, asserting that he must face criminal charges for his Christian faith. After intense interrogations, Saeed was placed under house arrest and told to wait for a court summons. On 26 September 2012, instead of receiving a summons telling him where to appear, five members of the Revolutionary Guard raided Saeed’s parents’ home in Tehran, confiscated many of Saeed’s belongings, and took him to an unknown location. After four days the Revolutionary Guard informed the family that Saeed was in solitary confinement in the notorious Evin Prison.
Throughout Saeed’s imprisonment, he has spent several weeks in solitary confinement. During solitary confinement, Saeed was only brought out of his small cell to be subjected to abusive interrogations. Saeed has been allowed visitation by his family in Tehran, but he has been cut off from his wife and two young children in the U.S.
Saeed had been denied medical treatment for infections that resulted from beatings. While in Evin, the ward doctor and nurse refused to treat him because, as a Christian, he was considered “unclean” and an infidel.
In early 2013, it became known that Saeed was suffering from internal injuries and doctors determined that his injuries warranted immediate attention, and, in their medical opinion, he needed to be treated in a non-prison hospital. For almost a year, the Iranian regime ignored this advice. In March 2014, Saeed was permitted to enter a private hospital for treatment, but after spending almost two months in the hospital, he was returned to prison without having been given surgeries deemed necessary by hospital doctors.
A petition has been started in Saeed’s name, and it quickly received overwhelming media attention. Secretary of State John Kerry has called for his release, the White House has called for his release, and the House of Representatives held two emotional hearings that highlighted Pastor Saeed’s plight. Multiple nations have called for Saeed’s release, and ACLJ attorneys have argued his case before the United Nations. Saeed’s petition has over 610,000 signatures and a letter writing campaign to encourage Saeed has garnered over 50,000 letters. Artists such as Toby Mac, Michael W Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, Mercy Me, Skillet, Relient K, and Audio Adrenaline have been involved, and lent their voices to raise awareness.
There is still much to be done. Keep up with Saeed's story through the Be Heard Project. Share his story on social media using #SaveSaeed and #BeHeard.
Uglavnom, jadni Saeed iz Idahoa je kriv samo zato sto je krscanin, stavise bas on je i "necisti nevjernik" pa ga stoga valja i zatvoriti, dok se 370.000 iranskih krscana secu ulicama i ovih dana slave blagdane? Sto ti je kleta sudbina. :D Inace, nikad nisam sebi do kraja razjasnio je li biti glup usud ili je to ipak stvar volje da se bude u tom stanju uma?
Pa sta je nesretnik uradio, valjo drogu, guzio omladinu, lano nesto kontra revolucije(dobro ovo zadnje nije istina...to se slobodno moze pricati sloboda izrazavanja je dozvoljena), alkohol nije, krmetina nije...a to sto nisi sebi odgonetnuo stanje uma...na ovoj temi barem to nije upitno, slobodna volja...pomjesano sa permanentnim bezobrazlukom pokusaja prodaje muda pod bubrege.
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#9958 Re: IRAN

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Generale, imas ti pravo, sigurno se jadnik prekrstio negdje na ulici. Ako nije cak i kriz izvalio preko dzempera. :D
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#9959 Re: IRAN

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salik79 wrote:
Co0l wrote:Napadi na Iran se nastavljaju.
An Iranian actress who posted Instagram photos of herself without a hijab was forced to flee the country

http://www.businessinsider.com/iranian- ... am-2015-11
Kučka Šahova :D

Da pogledas koji od ovih "propagandnih" dokumentaraca (ne moras razumjeti, samo pogledati sliku bez tona) sve bi ti se samo kazalo.
¸
Nema potrebe.Znam ja vrlo dobro da Iran nije crni vilajet.
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#9960 Re: IRAN

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General War wrote:A vidi ovg lazova :-)

Saeed Abedini, a 35-year-old Pastor, father, and husband from Idaho, is currently imprisoned in Rajaei Shahr prison (formerly imprisoned in Evin prison in Tehran, Iran). On 28 July 2012, during a visit to Tehran to visit family and to finalize the board members for an orphanage he was building in Iran, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard detained Saeed, asserting that he must face criminal charges for his Christian faith. After intense interrogations, Saeed was placed under house arrest and told to wait for a court summons. On 26 September 2012, instead of receiving a summons telling him where to appear, five members of the Revolutionary Guard raided Saeed’s parents’ home in Tehran, confiscated many of Saeed’s belongings, and took him to an unknown location. After four days the Revolutionary Guard informed the family that Saeed was in solitary confinement in the notorious Evin Prison.
Throughout Saeed’s imprisonment, he has spent several weeks in solitary confinement. During solitary confinement, Saeed was only brought out of his small cell to be subjected to abusive interrogations. Saeed has been allowed visitation by his family in Tehran, but he has been cut off from his wife and two young children in the U.S.
Saeed had been denied medical treatment for infections that resulted from beatings. While in Evin, the ward doctor and nurse refused to treat him because, as a Christian, he was considered “unclean” and an infidel.
In early 2013, it became known that Saeed was suffering from internal injuries and doctors determined that his injuries warranted immediate attention, and, in their medical opinion, he needed to be treated in a non-prison hospital. For almost a year, the Iranian regime ignored this advice. In March 2014, Saeed was permitted to enter a private hospital for treatment, but after spending almost two months in the hospital, he was returned to prison without having been given surgeries deemed necessary by hospital doctors.
A petition has been started in Saeed’s name, and it quickly received overwhelming media attention. Secretary of State John Kerry has called for his release, the White House has called for his release, and the House of Representatives held two emotional hearings that highlighted Pastor Saeed’s plight. Multiple nations have called for Saeed’s release, and ACLJ attorneys have argued his case before the United Nations. Saeed’s petition has over 610,000 signatures and a letter writing campaign to encourage Saeed has garnered over 50,000 letters. Artists such as Toby Mac, Michael W Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, Mercy Me, Skillet, Relient K, and Audio Adrenaline have been involved, and lent their voices to raise awareness.
There is still much to be done. Keep up with Saeed's story through the Be Heard Project. Share his story on social media using #SaveSaeed and #BeHeard.

I tako dodje hadzo efendic u Iran kao da, pored onolikog broja krscanskih crkvi cija tri zastupnika sjede i u parlamentu, on otvara privatne "crkve" u kojim ce propovijedati svoju vjeru. Pitanje je zasto je uopce dosao! A i da ni zbog cega drugoga, trebao je biti uhapsen zbog fizickog, emocionalnog i seksualnog zlostavljanja vlastite zene:

First Naghmeh Abedini canceled all public appearances after telling supporters by email that her husband had abused her physically, emotionally and sexually.
Naghmeh Abedini shared few additional details in her initial email alleging abuse, besides saying her husband, 35, was addicted to porn and that the abuse was ongoing even though their contact is limited to Skype and phone calls.
An American citizen and the mother of two children, Naghmeh Abedini said the abuse began in 2002.

Kod nas Islamska zajednica zapocinje borbu protiv kojekakvih "paradzemata", a da Iran dozvoljava da im kojekakvi americki "prosvijetljeni" silovatelji i siledzije dolaze osnivati iste po "kucama" u Iranu.

I.R. Iran ne bi danas bilo ni na mapi da su toliko mahniti.
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Ma stvari s tim Abedinijem ukratko stoje ovako: Lik je kao bivsi musliman koji je kao presao na krscanstvo u SAD i kao postao pastor. Tamo se i ozenio s tom jadnicom iranskih korijena za koju se ispostavilo da ju je marisao u pauzama izmedju dva pornica :D Helem, lik se pojavljuje u Iranu, on je kao svecenik, veli da bi drzao propovijedi, otvarao crkve i sirotista. Objasne mu da u Iranu postoje crkve i krscanske vjerske institucije koje (u cemu ih drzava podupire) ne dopustaju vaninstitucionalno djelovanje (taman kao ni nase vjerske zajednice) te da ce ga sigurno rado prihvatiti za saradnika, a da u Iranu vec postoji mnostvo sirotista koja ce rado prihvatiti svaku njegovu pomoc. Objasne mu da je, po zakonu, otvaranje sirotista ingerencija drzave i da zakon ne dopusta privatnu praksu te vrste. Medjutim, covjek ipak otvara "pokucne crkve" i "pokucna sirotista". Drzava im zabrani djelovanje i on nakon toga, slobodno i bez da bude kaznjen, ode nazad u SAD. Par godina kasnije pojavi se ponovo, i opet po starom, opet "pokucne crkve", "pokucna sirotista", s tim sto u medjuvremenu imamo i ovaj slucaj s njegovom zenom. Sto, je li, dodatno daje razloga da se covjeku bas i ne dopusti da se previse druzi s djecom. No, s obzirom da ovaj ne odustaje, bude pritvoren, a onda i osudjen, kako bi bio i u bilo kojoj drugoj drzavi cije zakone krsi.

A onda, gle cuda, odjednom u americkim medijima zasluzuje status mucenika. Iako bi slican lik u Americi (cija je javnost hispersenzibilna na sve sto samo zamirise na pedofiliju ili vezu svecenstva sa seksualnim iskoristavanjem) zavrsio kao bitch kakvom crnji u zatvoru bez da zasluzi vise od kratke vijesti o presudi u lokalnim novinama. Sve u svemu, jedna bezvezna prica i jeftina provokacija onih koja su ga poslali u Iran.
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zvizdan wrote:Ma stvari s tim Abedinijem ukratko stoje ovako: Lik je kao bivsi musliman koji je kao presao na krscanstvo u SAD i kao postao pastor. Tamo se i ozenio s tom jadnicom iranskih korijena za koju se ispostavilo da ju je marisao u pauzama izmedju dva pornica :D Helem, lik se pojavljuje u Iranu, on je kao svecenik, veli da bi drzao propovijedi, otvarao crkve i sirotista. Objasne mu da u Iranu postoje crkve i krscanske vjerske institucije koje (u cemu ih drzava podupire) ne dopustaju vaninstitucionalno djelovanje (taman kao ni nase vjerske zajednice) te da ce ga sigurno rado prihvatiti za saradnika, a da u Iranu vec postoji mnostvo sirotista koja ce rado prihvatiti svaku njegovu pomoc. Objasne mu da je, po zakonu, otvaranje sirotista ingerencija drzave i da zakon ne dopusta privatnu praksu te vrste. Medjutim, covjek ipak otvara "pokucne crkve" i "pokucna sirotista". Drzava im zabrani djelovanje i on nakon toga, slobodno i bez da bude kaznjen, ode nazad u SAD. Par godina kasnije pojavi se ponovo, i opet po starom, opet "pokucne crkve", "pokucna sirotista", s tim sto u medjuvremenu imamo i ovaj slucaj s njegovom zenom. Sto, je li, dodatno daje razloga da se covjeku bas i ne dopusti da se previse druzi s djecom. No, s obzirom da ovaj ne odustaje, bude pritvoren, a onda i osudjen, kako bi bio i u bilo kojoj drugoj drzavi cije zakone krsi.

A onda, gle cuda, odjednom u americkim medijima zasluzuje status mucenika. Iako bi slican lik u Americi (cija je javnost hispersenzibilna na sve sto samo zamirise na pedofiliju ili vezu svecenstva sa seksualnim iskoristavanjem) zavrsio kao bitch kakvom crnji u zatvoru bez da zasluzi vise od kratke vijesti o presudi u lokalnim novinama. Sve u svemu, jedna bezvezna prica i jeftina provokacija onih koja su ga poslali u Iran.

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@Salik,

Buraz, zasto kod ama bas svake negativne vijesti o Iranu odmah skaces u odbranu drzavnog aparata iste te zemlje?
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#9964 Re: IRAN

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Zokipfc wrote:@Salik,

Buraz, zasto kod ama bas svake negativne vijesti o Iranu odmah skaces u odbranu drzavnog aparata iste te zemlje?
Zato sto je rijec o jeftinim masmedijskim ublehama, poput ove o "jadnom propovijedniku".
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PDKI je zapoceo niz aktivnosti od nove godine u Vjersko-diktatorskoj Republici Iran!

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Friske slije iz iranskog Kurdistana! :-D

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Jedna od prosle godine! Komala!

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#9966 Re: IRAN

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Ipak ima na teritoriji Irana djevojaka koje ne nose hidzab! :D :D
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#9967 Re: IRAN

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Vjerovao bih ti da je teritorij Irana jedino ako bi ti otisao tamo i slikao se sa njima. Inace, mrka kapa, kao i sa onim "zlostavljanim 16-godinjakom", koji je "naknadno objesen" :D
Inace, golem odziv na tim "seminarima" :D

Btw, ovo su prave Pesmerge, koje su branile i odbranile svoju domovinu I.R. Iran od agresije, ti tvoji su samo pozeri koji se slikaju po vrletima ko zna kojih bespuca:

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https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/ ... 1679970304

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Koliki su procenti Sija i Sunita medju Iranskim Kurdima?
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Arteta wrote:Koliki su procenti Sija i Sunita medju Iranskim Kurdima?
Sta to pitas jadana ne bio cut ce te kiki, nema kod njih suniti siti oni su prije svega komunisti pa tek onda sve ostalo :mrgreen:
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#9971 Re: IRAN

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Kikibombona wrote:Ipak ima na teritoriji Irana djevojaka koje ne nose hidzab! :D :D
Kiki, na stranu i Iran, i Sirija, i Irak, i Turska... Zanima me, buduci da ocito smatras da narod koji vecinski naseljava odredjenu teritoriju u nekoj drzavi ima bezuvjetno pravo na otcjepljenje, udruzivanje s drugim svojim etnickim teritorijama, drugim drzavama i slicno, mislis li da i Hrvati u BiH imaju puno pravo da stvore svoju etnicku jedinicu u BiH, na teritorijama gdje su vecina, i da se referendumom odcijepe i, ukoliko zele, pripoje RH? Imaju li pravo na oruzani ustanak ako im se uskrati njihov entitet? Da li bi podrzao borbu hercegovackih Hrvata za samostalnu jedinicu u BiH, mozda i osamostaljenje, a ukoliko im se to uskrati, da li bi i njih zdusno podrzavao ako se odluce na oruzani ustanak?
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Ko nas BRE zavadi :D
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#9975 Re: IRAN

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salik79 wrote:Vjerovao bih ti da je teritorij Irana jedino ako bi ti otisao tamo i slikao se sa njima. Inace, mrka kapa, kao i sa onim "zlostavljanim 16-godinjakom", koji je "naknadno objesen" :D
Inace, golem odziv na tim "seminarima" :D
Pa brate Salice, ja ti ovdje postavio kamaru vidio zapisa sa Pesmergama koje ulaze u gradice i sela iranskog Kurdistana. Kako nisi vidio?

Postavio sam i zapis jedne bitke iz koje su Iranci izvukli deblji kraj.

Imas na netu kamaru materijala koji dokazuje da se kurdski pobunjenici svako malo sukobljavaju sa ajatolahovom vojskom.

Iranska vojska se ne vrzma previse po iransko-irackoj granici. Tu bi mogli biti samo glineni golubovi. Ketiti u nastanbama i cekati da ih mrak pojede.

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Ako se ne varam, u Iranu ima 20% sija Kurda. Nisu tako veliki zagovornici nezavisnosti, ali da sutra bude referendum nema sumnje da bi ih vecina glasala za nezavisnost Kurdistana. 90-tih su pokrenuli zestoku pobunu iz solidarnosti sa Kurdima na sjeveru (suniti).
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