#9951 Re: Referendum(i) u RS-u
Posted: 25/09/2016 12:11
Kao i obicno, SDA u svom stilu.
A u kakvom stilu treba bilo koji od bosnjackih politicara po tebi da nastupa ?madner wrote:Kao i obicno, SDA u svom stilu.
Da je drukciji stav, kmecali biste ovdje da je SDA ratnohuskacka, kao sto bijese i 1992. Sta bi ti, Cercilu, u ovom momentumu?madner wrote:Kao i obicno, SDA u svom stilu.
kowalski1 wrote:Ali Baka, Baka je odigro je za 10-kuVuče potez, a unaprijed već ima tri smišljena
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Dobri vokali?KatarinaKosaca wrote:Nisam ni cula ovu miroljubivu pjesmu.....
Koje "ratnohuskacke" 1992???? One kad nam je receno da mirno spavamo, pa pola Bosne zavrsi s glavama na panju? Je l' te?KatarinaKosaca wrote:Da je drukciji stav, kmecali biste ovdje da je SDA ratnohuskacka, kao sto bijese i 1992. Sta bi ti, Cercilu, u ovom momentumu?madner wrote:Kao i obicno, SDA u svom stilu.
Dobar presjek situacije a nije levatska novina tako da je bitno da smo na agendi. Hvala @Lucifer sto si podijelio s nama ovo, da se ima sta vrijedno procitati u moru bezvezarija koje se pisu.L u c i f e r wrote:Vašington post:
SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina — Bosnia’s Serb mini-state is holding a referendum this weekend that has turned into a proxy political battle between the West and Russia, stoking ethnic tensions and triggering fears of new clashes more than 20 years after the end of the Balkans War.
Sunday’s vote asks residents of Republika Srpska whether to maintain a national holiday on Jan. 9, despite a ruling of Bosnia’s constitutional court that the date discriminates against non-Serbs.
On January 9, 1992 — a Serb Christian Orthodox religious holiday — the Bosnian Serbs declared the creation of their own state within Bosnia, fueling a war that resulted in at least 100,000 people dead and millions homeless. During the worst carnage in Europe since World War II, the Serbs — helped by neighboring Serbia — expelled Bosniak Muslims and Catholic Croats from the territory they occupied, with the aim of making it part of Serbia.
A U.S.-brokered peace deal signed in 1995 created Republika Srpska, an autonomous region within Bosnia. For Bosniaks and Croats — whose federation represents the other half of Bosnia — Jan. 9 still symbolizes their expulsion and a sign that the Bosnian Serb-controlled territory is still meant just for Serbs.
Bosnia’s constitutional court has banned the referendum, but the Serbs said they will hold it anyway.
The vote sparked the most heated exchange between Bosniaks and Serbs since the war in the 1990s. Serbian officials said they were ready to defend Republika Srpska if it was attacked, and ordered the Serbian army to be more vigilant.
Apart from challenging the country’s rule of law, Bosniaks also fear this referendum is a test for a more serious one in 2018 — on independence — which would not go down peacefully, officials in Sarajevo warned.
“Nobody is more ready to defend this country all the way to the end,” said Bosniak leader Bakir Izetbegovic. “Nobody should ... force people who love this country to prove it again,” he added.
The referendum also reflects the wider tensions between Western nations — which are supporting the Bosniaks and Croats — and Russia, which is backing the Serbs.
The U.S. embassy in Sarajevo threatened unspecified “consequences” if the referendum is not canceled, while the Russian ambassador openly supported the referendum, saying it is an act of democracy. Russia is a traditional backer of Orthodox Slavic Serbs.
“Russia’s economy has been hurt badly by Western sanctions imposed because of Ukraine,” said Balkans expert and author Tim Judah. “If Russia can cause the West problems in return, which it seems determined to do in Bosnia now, then so be it. Never mind if this tips Bosnia back into conflict, never mind that Russia has nothing to offer the Balkans, this is simply a good way to cause problems to the West.”
Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik, who initiated the referendum and went to Moscow to meet President Vladimir Putin this week, called Bosniak reactions “hysteria.”
“This is not a referendum about secession as many want to portray it,” he said. “It is not even a beginning of such a process.”
International officials overseeing Bosnian peace accords were outraged by Dodik’s defiance and threats of new clashes.
“In the past 20 years we have not heard such language,” said the High Representative for Bosnia, Austrian diplomat Valentin Inzko.
The Peace Implementation Council, an international body overseeing Bosnia, said there will be no redrawing of borders and called on everybody “to refrain from reactive measures and divisive rhetoric.” It also urged the Bosnian Serbs to cancel the vote, but Council member Russia distanced itself from the statement.
The referendum is “both a test for state institutions as well as an attack on them,” Inzko told the AP in an interview, noting also that Bosnia’s criminal law foresees jail terms from six months to five years for those who disobey the constitutional court.
The sanctions could also include travel bans, asset freezes and the halting of international projects in the country, Inzko said. “All options are open,” he said.
Niemand wrote:Zasto je kmecanje ako se ocekuje da inzko jednostavno radi svoj posao?
Upravo...Niemand wrote:Sta je on to Boga ti radio uopce u bosni?Izuzev vjecitih izrazavanja zabrinutosti?
Ne treba se kmečati o tome. Svaka normalna osoba zna da je SDA, kao i sve nacionslističke stranke u BiH, ratnohušaška. Njihov ogled je u lopovluku, kriminalu, korupciji, sili ... sigurno nije u boljitku naroda.KatarinaKosaca wrote:Da je drukciji stav, kmecali biste ovdje da je SDA ratnohuskacka, kao sto bijese i 1992. Sta bi ti, Cercilu, u ovom momentumu?madner wrote:Kao i obicno, SDA u svom stilu.
Izvini,ja sam glupa, pa ne kontam sta hos da kazes ovim nekakvim citiranjem.Chisum wrote:Niemand wrote:Zasto je kmecanje ako se ocekuje da inzko jednostavno radi svoj posao?Upravo...Niemand wrote:Sta je on to Boga ti radio uopce u bosni?Izuzev vjecitih izrazavanja zabrinutosti?
Sama si i postavila, a ujedno i odgovorila na svoje pitanje. A sad ga primijeni na moj post.
Licne osobine ne generalizuj.Ludzak wrote:Bošnjaci su glupi. Ne znaju odabrati svog vođu.bh.tornjak wrote:
bio Hare....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
bio Zlaja....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
sad je Bake....isao Dodiku na ruku...
najbolje bi bilo da Bosnjaka nema.....svojim postojanjem idu na ruku Dodiku i njegovoj politici
Fine. Drzava ti tako i funkcionise. Il eto, objasni mi, sta ce nam inzko onda? Mozemo i sami biti zabrinuti.Chisum wrote:"Prosto. Ako imas dadilju za dijete, i dijete ti pravi belaja pred njenim ocima okrivices nju, sto ne pazi na njega."
Daj, ba, kakve su to paralele...
Ništa onda. Reči ću... Bošnjaci su pametni. Oni znaju odabrati svog vođu, pa raspisati i pokloniti Republiku Srpsku. To je pamet.Danguba wrote:Licne osobine ne generalizuj.Ludzak wrote:Bošnjaci su glupi. Ne znaju odabrati svog vođu.bh.tornjak wrote:
bio Hare....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
bio Zlaja....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
sad je Bake....isao Dodiku na ruku...
najbolje bi bilo da Bosnjaka nema.....svojim postojanjem idu na ruku Dodiku i njegovoj politici
Pa je li ti vidis da konstantno sama odgovaras na pitanje koje si meni postavila?Niemand wrote:Fine. Drzava ti tako i funkcionise. Il eto, objasni mi, sta ce nam inzko onda? Mozemo i sami biti zabrinuti.Chisum wrote:"Prosto. Ako imas dadilju za dijete, i dijete ti pravi belaja pred njenim ocima okrivices nju, sto ne pazi na njega."
Daj, ba, kakve su to paralele...
Cekaj, i zasto konkretno ne treba inzko nista raditi?Chisum wrote:Pa je li ti vidis da konstantno sama odgovaras na pitanje koje si meni postavila?Niemand wrote:Fine. Drzava ti tako i funkcionise. Il eto, objasni mi, sta ce nam inzko onda? Mozemo i sami biti zabrinuti.Chisum wrote:"Prosto. Ako imas dadilju za dijete, i dijete ti pravi belaja pred njenim ocima okrivices nju, sto ne pazi na njega."
Daj, ba, kakve su to paralele...
Upravo ZATO sto Inzko i razne Inzke sebi mogu priustiti da, ako im se hoce, ne mrdnu, da ne kazem cime, te im je svaki potez u duhu trenutne globalne politike, a ne naseg bosanskog mikrokosmosa, koji zivimo MI, a ne oni, i u kojem se stvari odvijaju drugacijom dinamikom, a za razliku od apstraktnih projekcija i spekulacija kojim se MZ bavi - na nasoj skali narod ispasta i osjeti posljedice u realnom vremenu, sad i tu - gdje je i u cemu strategija i vizija bagre koja se na pricama o "drzanju opstanka u saci" popela tu gdje se popela, na celu s onom ridjobradom funjarom?
(NE placas ti Inzka i sve te mesetare, kao sto placas dadilju, pa da ga mozes mijenjati i nabijati nogom u dupe kad ti se prohtije, pa te zato i pitam - GDJE vidis paralelu s dadiljama.... a o Dodiku, kao nasem djetetu, da ne govorim...)