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salik79 wrote:
Na uprilicenom sastanku, koji je trajao 10-tak minuta, referendum se nije ni u natruhama spomenuo...Ovlas su spomenuti izbori i to bi bilo to. Putin se doslovno popis'o na "delegaciju", a i to cisto da zadovolji protokol (najavljen i zatrazen od ambasade BiH u Moskvi).
Zar te je toliko zaslijepio taj sekteraski subob i ljubav prema Iranu, da ne mozes priznati da je Rusija na stran Dodika ?
Upravo suprotno.
Ocigledno je kroz onaj na brzinu sklepani sastanak Dodika sa Putinom u hodniku sporedne sobe da su Beograd i Banjaluka izuzetno zakazali u svom diplomatskom mahu.
Nisu dobili apsolutno niti jednu ozbiljnu zemlju da podrzi njihov zahtjev za referendumom i to je najveci velikosrpski poraz momentalno.
Zato se Bake lagano sepuri i ceka reakciju poslije referenduma.
Vucko i ekipa su promasili u svojoj procjeni. Vidjet cemo sta dolazi sljedece. Doduk ce vjerovanto biti kolateralna steta ali za Srbiju bi mogla biti vrata EU zatvorena.
japin_mutapi wrote:ne treba se ismijavati sa ovim 10-o minutnim prijemom, dogovor je pao sa putinovim ljudima, a putin se samo slikao i odobrio dogovor
šta i kako vidjećemo, moguće i da će neka lova kanuti kako bi krmak dobio na vremenu
Kopirat cu svoje upise od neku noc, sa teme o Siriji:
salik79 wrote:
Kao sto vec rekoh, Putin ne zarezuje djikane ni 5%. Dokaz - danasnji razgovor za stolicem koji je trajao citavih 10-tak minuta, u kojem Tata-djikanu nije ni naumpalo da ga priupita o referendumima i slicno. Ustvari, Tata-djikan je otisao iskamciti koju kintu, te na socijalnu pricu izlevatit levata:
"We have recently had two severe floods. They cost us an entire annual budget – about one billion euros, which is huge money for us. We have spoken to you earlier in St Petersburg regarding the possibility of providing financial aid to us. I fully understand the situation the Russian Federation is in now, but this would be our only chance to overcome what has happened to us. I am very grateful for your understanding."
Na sta mu je Baja samo kratko otgovorio: "Thank you." i Allahemanet
Kao sto rekoh, trne Putku za djikanima...Na globalnom planu zeli imati jake saveznike, a ti saveznici su itekako pozicionirani po pitanju BiH, kako tada (pogotovo jedan od njih, Iran, koji je odigrao i kljucnu ulogu u pomirenju i ponovnom zblizavanju sa Turskom), tako i sada...
Tako da, ne beri brigu...
salik79 wrote:
Krokodajl wrote:Šta je ovo sastanak u nekoj čekaonici [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38]
Treba vidjeti današnji protokol, u pauzu čega su ubacili ovaj susret
Na drugoj slici:
Dodik: I eto, tako oni nama prijete, a ja ne znam šta ću, kud ću.
Putin: (konta u glavi) Čovječe Božiji jesi ti normalan ?
[emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38]
Ma cisto da se zadovolji protokol, eto da su primljeni. Garantujem da bi bolje bili primljeni ovi nasi ugursuzi iz Federacije i da bi im vise vremena posvetio. Kud ces dalje, kad Dodik i zapocinje razgovor sljedecom recenicom: "Thank you for this opportunity, Mr President. I know you are a very busy man, therefore we value highly the time you have found for us." Sto ce reci da im je vec unaprijed dato do znanja da "televizija ne trpi sporo: Hamo, Pipa i ostala ekipa. Zdra'o!".
A ovako to izgleda kada, recimo, Ruhani dodje:
Zanimljivo da se o referendumu danas moze glasati i u Rusiji
E moj Ruhani. Bolje im je da se drze fetve o zenama i biciklu
Niemand wrote:A hocel bosanci danas takodjer glasati u rs-u?
svi koji zive u RSu imaju pravo glasa. I bosanci, a bogami i hercegovci
Meni kao srbinu je fascinanto kako je bosanac postala pogrdna rijec, dok recimo hercegovac nije, odnosno nije u onoj mjeri u kojoj je bila prije rata
Niemand wrote:A hocel bosanci danas takodjer glasati u rs-u?
svi koji zive u RSu imaju pravo glasa. I bosanci, a bogami i hercegovci
Meni kao srbinu je fascinanto kako je bosanac postala pogrdna rijec, dok recimo hercegovac nije, odnosno nije u onoj mjeri u kojoj je bila prije rata
Bosanac vala nije pogrdna rijec, bar za mene. Al me interesuje, da li ce oni, koji zive u rs-u a osjecaju se bosancima izaci danas na taj refrendum?
Izetbegović za Klix.ba: Referendum će proći, a BiH će ostati, pozivam Bošnjake da budu strpljivi
Sta ima Gandi...
Nego, ima li ova minder funjara, koja se debelo okoristila sve i jednim mozgom plivadonom koji je u njemu u njegovoj dzeparsokoj stranci vidio borce za opstanak Bosne, IKAKVU viziju sta i kako dalje, ili se sve svelo na ovaj napaceni Kalimero pogled i strategiju lezi i pravi se mrtav (... i cekaj hoce li Inzko reci koju pametnu, i hoce li laktaskog kmeta Putin primiti prije ili poslije crtanog).
Tek će se vidjeti on i njegova stranka poslije ovog referenduma.
Niemand wrote:
Bosanac vala nije pogrdna rijec, bar za mene. Al me interesuje, da li ce oni, koji zive u rs-u a osjecaju se bosancima izaci danas na taj refrendum?
Takvih nema u pc.
Bosanaca ima samo tamo gdje su Bosnjaci vecina.
Niemand wrote:
Bosanac vala nije pogrdna rijec, bar za mene. Al me interesuje, da li ce oni, koji zive u rs-u a osjecaju se bosancima izaci danas na taj refrendum?
Takvih nema u pc.
Bosanaca ima samo tamo gdje su Bosnjaci vecina.
Niemand wrote:
Bosanac vala nije pogrdna rijec, bar za mene. Al me interesuje, da li ce oni, koji zive u rs-u a osjecaju se bosancima izaci danas na taj refrendum?
Takvih nema u pc.
Bosanaca ima samo tamo gdje su Bosnjaci vecina.
Sacekacemo rezultate ipak
moze li se gdje kladiti ovo je sigurica da roknem 10.000 euro na DA!!
SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina — Bosnia’s Serb mini-state is holding a referendum this weekend that has turned into a proxy political battle between the West and Russia, stoking ethnic tensions and triggering fears of new clashes more than 20 years after the end of the Balkans War.
Sunday’s vote asks residents of Republika Srpska whether to maintain a national holiday on Jan. 9, despite a ruling of Bosnia’s constitutional court that the date discriminates against non-Serbs.
On January 9, 1992 — a Serb Christian Orthodox religious holiday — the Bosnian Serbs declared the creation of their own state within Bosnia, fueling a war that resulted in at least 100,000 people dead and millions homeless. During the worst carnage in Europe since World War II, the Serbs — helped by neighboring Serbia — expelled Bosniak Muslims and Catholic Croats from the territory they occupied, with the aim of making it part of Serbia.
A U.S.-brokered peace deal signed in 1995 created Republika Srpska, an autonomous region within Bosnia. For Bosniaks and Croats — whose federation represents the other half of Bosnia — Jan. 9 still symbolizes their expulsion and a sign that the Bosnian Serb-controlled territory is still meant just for Serbs.
Bosnia’s constitutional court has banned the referendum, but the Serbs said they will hold it anyway.
The vote sparked the most heated exchange between Bosniaks and Serbs since the war in the 1990s. Serbian officials said they were ready to defend Republika Srpska if it was attacked, and ordered the Serbian army to be more vigilant.
Apart from challenging the country’s rule of law, Bosniaks also fear this referendum is a test for a more serious one in 2018 — on independence — which would not go down peacefully, officials in Sarajevo warned.
“Nobody is more ready to defend this country all the way to the end,” said Bosniak leader Bakir Izetbegovic. “Nobody should ... force people who love this country to prove it again,” he added.
The referendum also reflects the wider tensions between Western nations — which are supporting the Bosniaks and Croats — and Russia, which is backing the Serbs.
The U.S. embassy in Sarajevo threatened unspecified “consequences” if the referendum is not canceled, while the Russian ambassador openly supported the referendum, saying it is an act of democracy. Russia is a traditional backer of Orthodox Slavic Serbs.
“Russia’s economy has been hurt badly by Western sanctions imposed because of Ukraine,” said Balkans expert and author Tim Judah. “If Russia can cause the West problems in return, which it seems determined to do in Bosnia now, then so be it. Never mind if this tips Bosnia back into conflict, never mind that Russia has nothing to offer the Balkans, this is simply a good way to cause problems to the West.”
Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik, who initiated the referendum and went to Moscow to meet President Vladimir Putin this week, called Bosniak reactions “hysteria.”
“This is not a referendum about secession as many want to portray it,” he said. “It is not even a beginning of such a process.”
International officials overseeing Bosnian peace accords were outraged by Dodik’s defiance and threats of new clashes.
“In the past 20 years we have not heard such language,” said the High Representative for Bosnia, Austrian diplomat Valentin Inzko.
The Peace Implementation Council, an international body overseeing Bosnia, said there will be no redrawing of borders and called on everybody “to refrain from reactive measures and divisive rhetoric.” It also urged the Bosnian Serbs to cancel the vote, but Council member Russia distanced itself from the statement.
The referendum is “both a test for state institutions as well as an attack on them,” Inzko told the AP in an interview, noting also that Bosnia’s criminal law foresees jail terms from six months to five years for those who disobey the constitutional court.
The sanctions could also include travel bans, asset freezes and the halting of international projects in the country, Inzko said. “All options are open,” he said.
bh.tornjak wrote:
bio Hare....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
bio Zlaja....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
sad je Bake....isao Dodiku na ruku...
najbolje bi bilo da Bosnjaka nema.....svojim postojanjem idu na ruku Dodiku i njegovoj politici
bio Alija, deklaracija i transferzala, i danas mu uredno daju minute na slobodarskoj RTRS
bio Dzemo
bili Pozderci
bio Humo
kapetan Gradascevic
bio Murat
Svi im isli na ruku. Umjesto da se civilizovano spakujemo i zauvijek odemo, negdje , mi bi da smo tu i smetamo slobodarskom narodu.
bh.tornjak wrote:
bio Hare....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
bio Zlaja....isao Dodiku na ruku ....
sad je Bake....isao Dodiku na ruku...
najbolje bi bilo da Bosnjaka nema.....svojim postojanjem idu na ruku Dodiku i njegovoj politici
bio Alija, deklaracija i transferzala, i danas mu uredno daju minute na slobodarskoj RTRS
bio Dzemo
bili Pozderci
bio Humo
kapetan Gradascevic
bio Murat
Svi im isli na ruku. Umjesto da se civilizovano spakujemo i zauvijek odemo, negdje , mi bi da smo tu i smetamo slobodarskom narodu.
insomnia78 wrote:
Zanimljivo da se o referendumu danas moze glasati i u Rusiji
E moj Ruhani. Bolje im je da se drze fetve o zenama i biciklu
Mogu glasati bilo gdje, i u Francuskoj, ako imaju prostorije za to. Nije mogao Ruhani i iransko Ministarstvo vanjskih poslova, putem svojih ambasada, upozoriti zemlje domacina da Dodik unutar BiH djeluje protuustavno. To je bila duznost naseg MVP-a, putem DKP mreze. Bolje francuzima da se drze parcijalnih uvodjenja "zakona" o zabrani Burkinija, te da povedu brigu o tome da i kod njih, pojedini nivoi vlasti, ne zele postovati sudske odluke...
, mi bi da smo tu i smetamo slobodarskom narodu.
kada bude vrijeme
