Sirija vol. 2

[Challenger_]

Kao, ovo misle "četnici", znači, ja mislim ispravno, znači Kurdi su Oukej, ko se ne slaže sa mnom, on je "četnik".

[Challenger_]

Argumentacija level underground.

[sumirprimus]

dobro zato ja bacim dimnu da vidim ko ce kahnut

[Akibh]

Kao, ovo misle "četnici", znači, ja mislim ispravno, znači Kurdi su Oukej, ko se ne slaže sa mnom, on je "četnik".

, pa ti si majstor debilnog etiketiranja?

Aki, preuzmi onog smora. Usamljen je. On podržava USA, ti kanibale, naći ćete se u sekundi.

[Challenger_]

Dobro, nije da nisam - s vremena na vrijeme - sklon bespotrebnim ličnim kvalifikacijama, ali mi ni u snu ne pada na pamet da koristim nacionalne ili šovinističke konstruckije da bih osnažio sopstveni stav.

[insomnia78]

Iz Čikaga moji, znaš ti dobro koji

[rajv0sa]

Kao, ovo misle "četnici", znači, ja mislim ispravno, znači Kurdi su Oukej, ko se ne slaže sa mnom, on je "četnik".

, pa ti si majstor debilnog etiketiranja?

Aki, preuzmi onog smora. Usamljen je. On podržava USA, ti kanibale, naći ćete se u sekundi.

Nemere vala bit veći od tebe niko, tebi je bukvalno svaki post na ovom forumu usmjeren protiv nekoga, uz redovite nacionalno politično osvještene etikete.

[Young Erotica]

Kiki opet u trans pada

[Challenger_]

- Evo jedna autentična manjinska perspektiva iz Sirije, o "dva zla", Turcima i Kurdima: LINK

Rasaljena osoba a ne lobotomizirani diletatnti.

[muhafuca]

NAVODNI plan druge faze operacije u Idlibu

Dizanje opsade sa Foua i Kefraya djepa

bumo vidjeli

#SyrianArmy (#SAA) widely reported #Idlib second phase without strong evidence. Task: Lift the siege of #AlFouaa and #Kafraya.

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https://twitter.com/Alex45563776/status/955740724175269888

[muhafuca]

NAVODNI planovi Turske za sigurnosnu zonu u Siriji

Znaci nakon Afrina - Manbij pa sjeverna Sirija komplet.

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https://twitter.com/OliveBranchOp/status/955788354536296448

[Challenger_]

- Evo jedna autentična manjinska perspektiva iz Sirije, Kamišli, o "dva zla", Turcima i Kurdima: LINK

Rasaljena osoba a ne lobotomizirani diletatnti.

Dakle, kaže:

- This is the opinion of a displaced Syrian Christian from Qamishli(the so called "Rojava's" capital on the recent #PKK - #Turkey conflict in #Afrin, spoiler alert, you will probably dislike it. Another spoiler alert, this will be a #thread, & probably a long one too.

- In recent years, Turkey has commited many crimes against Syria & Syrians, after decades of close friendship between the 2 nations.

- Turkey has funded, armed, trained, & supported the "Syrian rebels", alongside NATO, the US, & the US' allies Qatar & Saudi Arabia, to overthrow Assad who did not fit NATO's agenda.

- For 6 long years Syrians have suffered from these rebels, & we lost many many good people in this war on Syria, & yes you read that right, this is not a civil war, but a war on Syria. Then we get to the YPG, the armed wing of PYD, the party that failed to prove it's not PKK.

- My first ever interaction with al-Apojya(Syrian/Turkish for "Apo-ists" or PKK) was in 2012, when gas cylinders were very rare due to the international embargo on Syria. People were suffering from this, I could even say, starving.

- In these critical times, our government decided it was "wise" to hand over the Kurdish areas to a Kurdish militia to protect it from FSA & to prevent any protests in these areas thus preventing chaos & death, little did they know.

- So at 2012, when everyone was in need of gas cylinders, Abojiya, or YPG, monopolised the gas cylinder supplies by force, & sold them in dirt cheap prices to only Kurds!

- The first ever interaction was when we were out of gas for a week in my home, & we were living off uncooked & junk foods, & a Kurdish friend of mine offered to buy me a gas cylinder from YPG, so I went with him, & he told me to not speak so they don't find out I'm not a Kurd...

- So when we reached the selling location, there was a man with an AK-47 standing over a pickup truck full of gas cylinders, he looked at me & my friend, & he sensed that I'm not a Kurd, from my looks, so he talked to me in Kurmanji(a Kurdish dialect) & asked me "what's your name?"

- My friend tried to answer for me, but the angry man told him to "shut up", fortunately I happened to speak Kurmanji(I learned it in higschool to impress a girl, don't judge), so I answered him "my name is Mohammad", so the man nodded & his attitude change, & appearently he was a sweet man, with Kurds at least. Few months later I moved to Damascus to study in it's university, & but my family stayed in Qamishli. In the first 3 years of this war, most Syrians had a very positive image of YPG & suppprted the government's decision to arm them, although in many cases booed YPG's cooperation with FSA, but all in all we had a positive image of them as "OurGuys". Then Kobani happened...

- FSA & YPG fought side to side with the help of the US against ISIS to defend Kobani, & this battle didn't only end in YPG-FSA's victory but it also marked the end of the "Good ol' YPG", after this point, YPG became a US proxy.

- & you know the rest, huge American media campaign was made to make them look better, & to try & depict it like they took up arms & defended their lands when everyone left them, like if those weapons fell from heaven, or like if FSA wasn't there fighting with YPG.

- The huge media campaign resulted in many brainwashed communist young people supporting YPG, & making it their duty to defend YPG's honor on internet forums & social-media.

- If it was limited to just that, it would've been ok, but it extended beyond that, & some of those edgy communist teens left their countries & crossed the Syrian border illegally to join YPG & fight for a communist-anarchist utopia

- Which makes me laugh everytime I realize that these people really believe YPG is seeking to create a global utopia.

- The battle of Kobani ended in march 2015, & the US was able to completely hijack YPG by October 2015 by forcing them to form "The Syrian Democratic Forces" in a desperate move by the US to replace FSA that failed in achieving it's purpose & the US also demanded that PYD change the name "Rojava" to "The Democratic Federation of Northern Syria", & whatever project PYD had, it died that day. So today, we are faced with a Turkish-PKK conflict, & thw question "what is the lesser evil?" Faces us aswell.

- Well, what if we can reduce one of those 2 evils to good? What if the door to get rid of all US proxies in Syria is just one phone call away? What would you do? Turkey has backstabbed us hard for the sake of NATO & the US, who in return backstabbed Turkey.

- It's in our national interest to fight FSA, but it's not in Turkey's to support them. & it's in our both national interests to get rid of YPG. So that's easy math, 1 + 1 = 2. We tried to make one evil good 3 times in the last 72 hours

- As we offered YPG protection handing Afrin to the Syrian Army, as Turkey promised to not attack any place with a Syrian flag raised above it; YPG refused

- So that leaves us 1 option, one evil to make good, & not only "hit 2 birds with one stone", we will be able to smash a flock of birds with one phone call

My opinion is: Ally with Turkey, because maybe we can't change the past, but revenge isn't worth going full Samson-mode, & a good future is worth that amnesia.

End of thread.

- If any of you guys were interested, this is my view of this recent conflict, & my personal experience with YPG.

- One more thing, I forgot to explain the "displaced" part. I am banned from going back to my home in Qamishli without having a Kurd to sponsor me. A few months ago I convinces a Kurdish friend of mine to do that, but he was bullied by YPG into not giving up on doing that.

- I faced some hard times during these years, times that I needed to really be amongst my family & loved ones, but I couldn't reach my city Qamishli You can imagine my #Christmas, a time one is supposed to spend with his family, I spent it alone at home hoping my family is happier

ܓܐܟ (Jack)

[habanero68]

Kurdi optužuju Rusiju za izdaju, ali kriju zašto ih Moskva nije mogla zaštititi?

https://www.logicno.com/politika/kurdi- ... ititi.html

[Challenger_]

Kada je predstavnik zajednica iz Kamišlija koja je kapitalno nastradala od Turske, danas zagovornik savezništva sa Turskom, a ne sa Kurdima, jasno je koliko je sati u vezi lažnog mita o lažnim "good guys" u Siriji.

Mislim, jasno je to svakom sa i malo srca i uma.


Odavno.

[Young Erotica]

Muhafuca već sam video negde to za ovu enklavu, mada mi je logicnije da okruze ove u Latamini I polako ciste to.

Nasao sam jos jedan dobar kanal sa borbama pa koga zanima nek uprati Abdul Khasan

[Nadzornik]

[Nadzornik]

video u clanku: marisana turci-kurdi u berlinu

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https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/100795703/.html

[Nadzornik]

[Nadzornik]

Rusi samo dovlace oruzje u Siriju,jos jedan S-400...

[Kikibombona]

NAVODNI planovi Turske za sigurnosnu zonu u Siriji

Znaci nakon Afrina - Manbij pa sjeverna Sirija komplet.

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https://twitter.com/OliveBranchOp/status/955788354536296448

Turci su ckepi, nije to vise onaj narod, koji je dominirao svijetom u periodu Otomanskog carstva i stoljecima prije toga...

Dansnji Turci su komformisti, teze lagodnom i modernom zivotu. Njihova ambicija da osvajaju je unistena. Motiv da Kurde drze pod okupacijom slabi iz godine u godinu. U iole ravnopravnoj borbi Kurd ce natjerati Turcina u bijeg. Kurdi su siromasni, obespravljeni, ugnjetavani itd. To ih motivise na borbu. Kurd brani svoje dok Turcin pokusava vladati na kurdskoj zemlji.

Cim se priblizi odnos snaga, kada Kurdi steknu adekvatno oruzje, dobiju podrsku MZ, Turci ce bjezati do Ankare, a mozda i dalje od toga ako u medjuvremenu Ankara postane dominantno kurdski region zahvaljujuci natalitetu.

Ova mapa je obicna smijurija. Ovo Turci ne mogu odraditi za 10 godina. Kako bi to oni zauzeli Kamislo?

Evo na ovim brdima Efrina, imaju ogromnu prednost, avioni i artiljerija, sve imaju... vatrena moc pomogne da uzmu brdo a onda Kurdi u kontri sa ohrndanim kalasima natjeraju Turke u bijeg...

Massoud Mohammed

@M1Massoud

Breaking ! SDF: SDF fighters Have cleaned Hamam village and the hills around it from Turkish soldieres and its islamist groups.

[Nadzornik]

[Nadzornik]

Njemacka vlada na udaru zbog Leopard tenkove u Siriji.



http://www.dw.com/en/german-government- ... er-sharing

[DaysleepeR]

Rusi samo dovlace oruzje u Siriju,jos jedan S-400...

to nije Sirija i to nije S 400, i to nisu Rusi, oni su osramotili i napustili Asada a i a njim su u zavadi

[Kikibombona]

Kurdi odbili poziv da se pridruze mirovnim pregovorima u Sociju:

Foza Yusuf: 'Under the rain of bullets and bombs we are not going to join Sotschi. Our topic is resistance right now. If the situation changes we can think about it again, butif the situation stays like now Sotschi is going to fail.'

Evdo Efrîn (Tev-Dem foreign relation center- Afrin): "The attacks are mostly concentrated on Rajo. The turkish army is trying to get in control of the local hills to get in control of the region. Their are heavy fightings in this region and warplanes are bombing

Zanimljivo je kakav se propagandni rat vodi. Kada su Kurdi pogodili prvi turski tenk (leopard), Turci su objavili sliku tenka na kojoj se vidi da je isti pretrpio minimalna ostecenja iako je pogododjena kupola. Fotka je objavljena da bi se obeshrabrili kurdski branioci, da pomisle da su turski tenkovi neunistivi. Poslije je isplivala istina, slika ostecenog tenka je napravljena u Turskoj prije nekoliko godina, nakon sukoba turske vojske i PKK.

O tome imate na zvanicnom tviter nalogu YPG, mrzi me da sada trazim

https://mobile.twitter.com/DefenseUnits?p=s

Isto tako, Turci lazu i govore da napreduju. Ako ne mogu lagati da su izgubili neki polozaj, onda objave da je isti izgubila tzv. FSA a ne turske snage.

Kurdski novinari iz Efrina su poceli objavljivati video zapise i slike iz sela za koje Turci tvrde da su pod njihovom kontrolom.

Kurdski zvanicnik objavio....

The bombing of the Turkish occupation army of Misriya villages and Deir Balut of the region of Gondrissa in Afrin resulted in the deaths of four civilians, two women and two children, and the injury of a number of other civilians wounded, amid the persistence of the shelling.

Za sada nema veceg pomjeranja. Povuci - potegni. Turska vojska ima ogromnu vatrenu moc, preoru brdo i onda se usetaju, nakon sto se YPG povuce. Kada krene kontra, hvataju se noge.

[ioannes]

Kao, ovo misle "četnici", znači, ja mislim ispravno, znači Kurdi su Oukej, ko se ne slaže sa mnom, on je "četnik".