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#95601 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 21:24
by sarajevoxxxx
Kaligrafija wrote:
Pa sta trebam, da lazem!? Vidim snimak, ako nije izmontiran, onda je bruka...Dosao mu drzavnik u goste, ide ispred njega, ko da ga nema, generali ruske vojske isto ispred...sta reci, nego ponizenje...Dva drzavnika uvijek idu jedan uz drugog, po protokolu, trebala je sirijska svecana garda da doceka Putina i da mu Asad prepusti pocasno postrojavanje...Bez obzira sto se ovo desava u ruskoj bazi...Necu ja lagat, pa reci nije tako bilo...Asad je ponizen u svojoj zemlji, naravno ako je snimak pravi...
Nije montiran, evo ovdje cijeli snimak na 1:12 ruski oficir ga hvata za ruku zaustavlja i govori mu da stane.

Syria: Putin meets Assad at Russian military base in surprise visit to Syria

#95602 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 21:26
by sarajevoxxxx
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#95603 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 21:29
by sumirprimus
al gledj likusa iza njeg buaha more basketa igrat il kecera :oops: sace kad bude zvezda cska bit vakih hićmet na marakani :D

#95604 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:01
by karakters
Nije cudo sto "hafiz zvonimirko a dje je zastava" nastavlja praviti smecarsku propagandu, ali mi urnebesno da mu to polazi za rukom.

Putin doso u rusku bazu u Siriji, protokol, naravno, unaprijed isplaniran od strane ruske vojske iz baze, Asad se zaputio kontra protokola, jer nije njemu trebalo raportirati, covjek koji je upoznat sa protokolom i vjerovatno zaduzen za isti mu na to skrenuo paznju, "-predsjednice, izvini, ali po protokolu tamo ide samo Putin", "-aha, dobro, nisam znao". Najnormalnija stvar u toj vrsti dogadjaja.

#95605 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:07
by japin_mutapi
vidi, karakters poceo pisati normalne postove

#95606 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:12
by karakters
japin_mutapi wrote:vidi, karakters poceo pisati normalne postove
Pohvale legalista "revolucionari su strijeljali 130 sirijskih vojnika demokratski i u skladu sa medjunarodnim pravom, jer je Nusrin prijeki sud odrzao zasjedanje na licu mjesta, kod zida ispred kojih su ih demokratski pobili" imaju posebnu vrijednost i podstrek za daljni rad. :thumbup:

#95607 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:13
by Nadzornik
ioannes wrote:
evo od min. 10:00 i tigra na sastanku sa putkom i assadom :D
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#95608 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:14
by sumirprimus
Nadzornik wrote:
ioannes wrote:
evo od min. 10:00 i tigra na sastanku sa putkom i assadom :D
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evo ga opet stari.. :lol:

#95609 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:14
by japin_mutapi
sto se tigar proljepso

#95610 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:15
by Nadzornik
Opet Tigar iza ledja.... :D

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#95611 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:15
by Nadzornik
japin_mutapi wrote:sto se tigar proljepso
Sredio se za Putina... :D

#95612 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:18
by sumirprimus
Nadzornik wrote:Opet Tigar iza ledja.... :D

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ups koji je najmladji u prvoj liniji,tigar iza ledja,ponavljam tigar iza ledja :lol: :oops:

#95613 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:20
by Nadzornik
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#95614 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:20
by karakters
Nadzornik wrote:
japin_mutapi wrote:sto se tigar proljepso
Sredio se za Putina... :D
Jedva ga upratih, prvo pomislih da je obukao drvenasto-zelenu maskirnu uniformu i stopio se sa okruzenjem.

#95615 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:20
by apsidejzi
Citam evo da je Putin izjavio kako je Sirija oslobodjena od militanata. Sta mu to treba da znaci? Ocito je onda rat stao. Tu i tamo se puskara ali nema vecih frontova? Il sam polupao loncice`?

#95616 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:20
by sumirprimus
Nadzornik wrote:Image
fejk njuz... :P

#95617 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:20
by sumirprimus
Nadzornik wrote:Image
fejk njuz... :P

#95618 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:23
by Nadzornik
Ovo je zvanicna karta Sirije po Ruskoj vojsci.

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#95619 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:24
by sumirprimus
Nadzornik wrote:Ovo je zvanicna karta Sirije po Ruskoj vojsci.

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osto jos berlin vidim blticke drzave ypj ypg i pdp su vec prisvojili :lol:

#95620 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:28
by Nadzornik
Evo Tigar to moze potvrditi... :-D

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Nisam gospodine Putine,ociju mi... :D

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#95621 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:30
by Nadzornik
#BREAKING #Turkish artillery based in Salwa targets #YPG positions in #Afrin

Turci lupaju po Kurdima u Afrinu.

#95622 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 22:30
by karakters
"Primako se šporetu ako lažem"

#95623 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 23:02
by sunceKOtepsija
Nadzornik wrote:#BREAKING #Turkish artillery based in Salwa targets #YPG positions in #Afrin

Turci lupaju po Kurdima u Afrinu.
gdje nam je kiki :?

#95624 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 23:03
by sarajevoxxxx
'I married my husband in a Syrian prison - then he disappeared'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/m ... eared/amp/

Noura and Bassel in happier times
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Lizzie Porter
11 DECEMBER 2017 • 12:43 PM
It is March 2012 in Damascus. Noura Ghazi Safadi is waiting for her fiancé, Bassel, 34, to come home. They are about to book party arrangements for their wedding, in two weeks’ time. But he does not arrive.

“It was a sign that he had been arrested. This is normal in Syria. I cannot describe how much I suffered. It was painful,” says the Syrian human rights lawyer, now 36.

Bassel Khartabil Safadi had been arrested by the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad, whose prisons are notorious for torture and execution, but have been largely forgotten throughout the seven-year long conflict.

Noura's husband was taken in what she describes as a "kidnap" style arrest. "There are no reasons for detentions in Syria. There are... no arrest warrants, nothing to tell families or to that person that they were [going] to arrest him, why they arrest him and where, [or] who they are," she says.

"I cannot describe how much I suffered. It was painful. I was just thinking about the wedding. It was one of the most painful and difficult periods in my life."

Noura eventually learnt that Bassel had been detained in Adra prison, a notorious institution, north of the Syrian capital. In the first week of 2013, they eventually married on one of her brief visits to see him.

"It was perfect. I wore a blue dress because Bassel asked me to," Noura remembers.

The couple at their engagement party in October 2011
The couple at their engagement party in October 2011 CREDIT: NOURA GHAZI SAFADI
The wedding took place over two prison visits: the first time, Noura and Bassel exchanged vows, between the metal bars that separated them, in whispers, so the prison guards would not notice. "My parents and his parents were with me, and he was behind bars. So we just exchanged the marriage speech," she explains.

On the second visit, Noura was accompanied by her uncle, a lawyer, and the marriage was officially approved.

“It was amazing. I did it in prison. Can you imagine? I challenged all the circumstances, all the bars, all the guards and everything and I married Bassel,” Noura says.


But, little more than two years later, her husband disappeared. Noura’s face falls, as she recalls the last time she set eyes on him.

“I saw him for my birthday in September 2015. Three days after this visit he called me to tell me ‘they came to take me’. But I don’t know who.”

Bassel, a software programmer for international companies such as Creative Commons and Firefox, was taken to a military field court and charged with being a threat to state security, a common accusation thrown at anyone who opposes Assad’s dictatorship.

He was executed shortly after, although Noura had not been able to confirm his death until this August.

She “collapsed” for a month, as she describes it, matter-of-factly. She still does not know what has happened to her husband’s remains.


The UN has described “inhuman living conditions” in Syria's detention facilities, where the international body believes the crimes against humanity of “extermination, murder, rape or other forms of sexual violence, torture, imprisonment, enforced disappearance and other inhuman acts” have taken place.

Last year, Amnesty International said that Syrian authorities were committing torture on a "massive scale" in government prisons including beatings, electric shocks, rape and psychological abuse that amount to crimes against humanity.

Noura refuses to let Bassel’s death crush her. If anything, it propels her forward. “My aim now is to try to prevent any detainee in Syria having Bassel’s fate”, she explains. “I don’t just sit and wish. I do.”

She is part of Families for Freedom, established this year as the first female-led advocacy group for Syrian detainees and their relatives. With most of the 85,000 people currently disappeared in the country male, it is women who bear the burden of their absence.

They have campaigned in European cities, including Geneva - a base for Syria peace negotiations - and last month visited London. The trip saw them take a red London bus to Parliament Square, covered in photographs of those people missing in Syrian prisons. In place of display adverts, it read: “Freedom for the detainees”.

But the agony of losing their loved ones is not the only challenge facing these women - ordinary teachers, mothers and university graduates - some of whom had previously been detained themselves.

Making their voices heard in a male-dominated society is a daily struggle. The fight to make women’s voices heard is, says Families for Freedom member Amina Kholani, “a revolution against tyranny and against tradition.” A history graduate and mother of three, Kholani herself spent six months detained in a Syrian government jail with her husband before becoming an activist.

“Women who make their voices heard are very few. We live in an eastern society - it looks like the society in the Middle Ages in Europe, where [women don’t] have that much encouragement or ability to speak”, she told a meeting at the Houses of Parliament, hosted by Baroness Hodgson of Abinger, co-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Women, Peace and Security. “We have to break the tradition and talk about it.”

A few weeks later, Amina discovered that her brother Mohammed, arrested in 2013, had died in detention.

With news of deaths announced all too frequently, Families for Freedom wants the British government to work with other European countries to pressure the Syrian regime and its ally Russia to allow international human rights monitors unfettered access to detention facilities, and to allow aid organisations in to provide medicine and food.

There are powerful, immediate reasons why the UK should care about the issues of disappearance and detention. “We know that this migrant surge has affected the UK and Europe more broadly”, says James Sadri, director at The Syria Campaign, a human rights group that supported Families for Freedom during the UK visit.

“The vast majority of these refugees want to go home, but we know that they will not return to Syria until they know they can do that safely. This requires an end to the conflict and an end to the programme of mass detention carried out primarily by the Assad regime.”

“We want to talk with all the governments who are involved,” says Noura. “Especially in Syrian human rights.”

#95625 Re: Sirija vol. 2

Posted: 11/12/2017 23:05
by sumirprimus
laz! propaganda protiv precjednika vjeverice.