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Klavikula wrote:

sumirprimus wrote:imate mahanje obojca sa tusnja...
ne znam za kog navijaju ove moje shije i sufije?

dobar vam je Husref

Klavikula wrote:

sumirprimus wrote:imate mahanje obojca sa tusnja...
ne znam za kog navijaju ove moje shije i sufije?

dobar vam je Husref

sumirprimus wrote:bio vas..
jestel ga ono ocerali?

Opetja033 wrote:

sumirprimus wrote:bio vas..
jestel ga ono ocerali?

Tj sporazumno raskinuli ugovor.

Opetja033 wrote:
Pobunjenici jos uvijek drze 30-50% grada. Ali i ja cisto sumnjam da ce uspjeti zadrzati kontrolu. Ubise ih Rusi.

sarajevoxxxx wrote:SOHR: 40 000 ljudi u gradu Madaya izloženo izgladnjivanju, lošim uslovima boravka, hladnoći...

http://www.syriahr.com/?p=148582

Madaya je mali gradić koji se nalazi u blizini Zabadania u okolini damaska kojeg Hezbollah i snage sirijskog režima 6 mjeseci drže u potpunom okruženju. U gradu se nalazi oko 1200 osoba koje su ozlijeđene u sukobima, kao i 300 djece kojima nedostaju osnovne namirnice i lijekovi.Cijena jednog kilograma šećera u gradu Madaya je 90 dolara.

Do sada je SOHR dokumentovao imena 17 građana Madaya među kojima je i nekoliko djece a koji su preminuli od posljedica neuhranjenosti i nedostatka osnovnih lijekova. Zadnjih nekoliko dana 5 porodica se uspjelo spasiti iz grada nakon što su posrednicima koji sarađuju sa Hezbollahom i sirijskim režimom platili mito.

sumirprimus wrote:

Klavikula wrote:

sumirprimus wrote:imate mahanje obojca sa tusnja...
ne znam za kog navijaju ove moje shije i sufije?

dobar vam je Husref

bogami i zeba...

sumirprimus wrote:odo jebo rat i patnju,sretna nova.

sumirprimus wrote:odo jebo rat i patnju,sretna nova.

Number of militants defending Shiekh Miskeen has now doubled since last night according to rebel source

Opetja033 wrote:

salik79 wrote:

Mlohavi wrote:Sega mi ovo suniti i siiti, noc i tama, teroristi i ustanici... Vala kO dan jasno sve pa bezveze mi malo sto prsti jos ne mogu prevaliti i taj zadnji korak.

Suniti(neotekfirdzije), nemaju ustanike, dok siiti nemaju teroriste.
Kad tom saznanju pridodam baratanje terminologijom pocet cu da se brinem. Stvarno ne moras dalje poducavati, zahvali onima koji su tebe poducavali, i neka tu prestane, steta je dalje prenositi "znanje".

Nista, morat cu prijaviti moderaciji ovo. Pa neka oni odluce da li si mi imputirao nesto sto nisam napisao, i toga se i dalje drzao kao pijan plota, proglasavajuci me sektasem, ili nisi...Pokusao sam na fin nacin sa tobom razrijesiti, ali vidim ne ide. Tvoj jezik je "samo ostro i na prvu!".

Evo ti tri najpoznatije arapsko-sunnitske grupe koje su bile aktivne protiv okupacije a teoloski veze nisu imale sa Al Qaidom:

Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order, na celu sa velikim gospodinom i generalom Izzet al Dourijem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_t ... andi_Order

Islamic Army in Iraq:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Army_in_Iraq

Jaish al Rashidin (savez vise grupacija):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish_al-Rashideen

Inace interesantno je (to je @saxxxx pisao ali je vecini promaklo) da je Izzet al Douri i njegova Vojska Naksibendija podrzala Islamski Vojni Savez koji je osnovala Saudija. Iako je prvobitno saradjivao sa Daeshom, izgleda da su se distancirali.

Although JRTN would only emerge as a group in 2006, JRTN members had been involved in anti-coalition actions earlier in the war, such as the 2003 Rixos Al Rasheed Baghdad Hotel, and the 2004 First Battle of Fallujah, where several Naqshbandia clerics associated with the JRTN were among the casualties.[8]

JRTN originally emerged as a group in December 2006, following the execution of Saddam Hussein. The group's original focus was on protecting Naqshbandis in Iraq from the oppression they were facing from radical Sunni Islamist insurgent groups, particularly al-Qaeda in Iraq, whose tactics, especially the targeting Iraqis and Sunni's, were opposed by JRTN's Sufi ideology.[8][9]

The Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI) (Arabic: الجيش الإسلامي في العراق,al jaysh al islāmi fī'l-`irāq) is one of a number of underground Islamist militant (or mujahideen) organizations formed in Iraq following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by United States and coalition military forces, and the subsequent collapse of the Baathist government headed by Saddam Hussein.

Although it carries an Islamic title, the group combines Islamism with Iraqi nationalism, and has been labelled as "resistance" by Iraq's Sunni Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi despite regular attacks against Iraqi soldiers and policemen, as well as Shi'ite militias such as the Mahdi Army and the Badr Organization.

The precise details about the emergence of the IAI are unclear, although it is generally assumed that the group was established in the summer of 2003 to fight coalition forces.[3]

When the IAI first formed, it used kidnapping as a means of pursuing its goals. The group also threatened to target the January 2005 elections, although it didn't carry out any such attack. Unlike most resistance movement organizations today, the IAI does not have Salafist tendencies, its primary focus and goal being the expulsion of foreign troops from Iraq. A November 2004 Washington Post interview with the group's leader, Ishmael Jubouri, stated that the IAI was predominantly composed of Iraqis (Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds, and Arabs) trying to force foreign troops out of Iraq.[4] The Terrorism Monitor put out by The Jamestown Foundation confirms some of what Jubouri was claiming. In a March 2005 article, it states the group is composed primarily of Sunnis with a much smaller, but still present, Shiite congregation and, in general, is "[an] inclusive Islamic organization with Iraqi nationalist tendencies."[3][who?]

Established at the first day of the occupation, and began to collect weapons from the former Iraqi Army military camps in the suburbs of Baghdad, the Army announced its existence at the same day when its fighters carried out an attack against a US occupation patrol after nine days of the occupation of Baghdad. Al-Rashideen Army battalions are located in different parts of Iraq, including the provinces of North and South.[1]

Al-Rashideen Army claims that it does not stop with its military appearances, but go deep in understanding the occupation project, which is not aimed at Iraq alone. It thinks that the occupation program begins with the occupation of this country, and sequentially aims against Arabism and Islam everywhere. Al-Rashideen high commanders say that they are following these goals and motivations of occupation strategy and the role of the neo-conservatives and international Zionism.

Based on the previous vision, Al-Rashideen Army puts its strategic vision, and identify its options and positions in the field according to a program aimed to achieving its near and far objectives.

Al-Zubaidi (from the political office of Al-Rashedeen Army) said: "There is no doubt that Iran poses a major threat, but we believe that the danger is the first American occupation, The penetration and Iranian proliferation, happened because of the absence of American occupation and if we defeat the American occupation that would subside the Iranian threat, and if we defeat the US, we will be able to defeat all those who want to harm Iraq".

As per the Al-Rashedeen Army opinion on "Awake councils", they define them as: American made, designed and producing in Rand institutions and others. Simple groups of local paid people fulfilling the order of Americans.[2]

sumirprimus wrote:imate mahanje obojca sa tusnja...
ne znam za kog navijaju ove moje shije i sufije?

salik79 wrote:

Opetja033 wrote:

salik79 wrote:
Nista, morat cu prijaviti moderaciji ovo. Pa neka oni odluce da li si mi imputirao nesto sto nisam napisao, i toga se i dalje drzao kao pijan plota, proglasavajuci me sektasem, ili nisi...Pokusao sam na fin nacin sa tobom razrijesiti, ali vidim ne ide. Tvoj jezik je "samo ostro i na prvu!".

Evo ti tri najpoznatije arapsko-sunnitske grupe koje su bile aktivne protiv okupacije a teoloski veze nisu imale sa Al Qaidom:

Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order, na celu sa velikim gospodinom i generalom Izzet al Dourijem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_t ... andi_Order

Islamic Army in Iraq:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Army_in_Iraq

Jaish al Rashidin (savez vise grupacija):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish_al-Rashideen

Inace interesantno je (to je @saxxxx pisao ali je vecini promaklo) da je Izzet al Douri i njegova Vojska Naksibendija podrzala Islamski Vojni Savez koji je osnovala Saudija. Iako je prvobitno saradjivao sa Daeshom, izgleda da su se distancirali.

Odlicno! Da vidimo da li sam bio u pravu u vezi moje tvrdnje (da ne znam niti za jednu NEtekfirdzijsku organizaciju koja je bila na nivou Sadrinih milicija, u pruzanju otpora Amerima:

1.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_t ... andi_Order

Although JRTN would only emerge as a group in 2006, JRTN members had been involved in anti-coalition actions earlier in the war, such as the 2003 Rixos Al Rasheed Baghdad Hotel, and the 2004 First Battle of Fallujah, where several Naqshbandia clerics associated with the JRTN were among the casualties.[8]

JRTN originally emerged as a group in December 2006, following the execution of Saddam Hussein. The group's original focus was on protecting Naqshbandis in Iraq from the oppression they were facing from radical Sunni Islamist insurgent groups, particularly al-Qaeda in Iraq, whose tactics, especially the targeting Iraqis and Sunni's, were opposed by JRTN's Sufi ideology.[8][9]

Pa...i ne bas


2.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Army_in_Iraq

The Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI) (Arabic: الجيش الإسلامي في العراق,al jaysh al islāmi fī'l-`irāq) is one of a number of underground Islamist militant (or mujahideen) organizations formed in Iraq following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by United States and coalition military forces, and the subsequent collapse of the Baathist government headed by Saddam Hussein.

Although it carries an Islamic title, the group combines Islamism with Iraqi nationalism, and has been labelled as "resistance" by Iraq's Sunni Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi despite regular attacks against Iraqi soldiers and policemen, as well as Shi'ite militias such as the Mahdi Army and the Badr Organization.

The precise details about the emergence of the IAI are unclear, although it is generally assumed that the group was established in the summer of 2003 to fight coalition forces.[3]

When the IAI first formed, it used kidnapping as a means of pursuing its goals. The group also threatened to target the January 2005 elections, although it didn't carry out any such attack. Unlike most resistance movement organizations today, the IAI does not have Salafist tendencies, its primary focus and goal being the expulsion of foreign troops from Iraq. A November 2004 Washington Post interview with the group's leader, Ishmael Jubouri, stated that the IAI was predominantly composed of Iraqis (Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds, and Arabs) trying to force foreign troops out of Iraq.[4] The Terrorism Monitor put out by The Jamestown Foundation confirms some of what Jubouri was claiming. In a March 2005 article, it states the group is composed primarily of Sunnis with a much smaller, but still present, Shiite congregation and, in general, is "[an] inclusive Islamic organization with Iraqi nationalist tendencies."[3][who?]

Paaaaaaa, tu i tamo...ali, ne bas

3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish_al-Rashideen

Established at the first day of the occupation, and began to collect weapons from the former Iraqi Army military camps in the suburbs of Baghdad, the Army announced its existence at the same day when its fighters carried out an attack against a US occupation patrol after nine days of the occupation of Baghdad. Al-Rashideen Army battalions are located in different parts of Iraq, including the provinces of North and South.[1]

Al-Rashideen Army claims that it does not stop with its military appearances, but go deep in understanding the occupation project, which is not aimed at Iraq alone. It thinks that the occupation program begins with the occupation of this country, and sequentially aims against Arabism and Islam everywhere. Al-Rashideen high commanders say that they are following these goals and motivations of occupation strategy and the role of the neo-conservatives and international Zionism.

Based on the previous vision, Al-Rashideen Army puts its strategic vision, and identify its options and positions in the field according to a program aimed to achieving its near and far objectives.

Al-Zubaidi (from the political office of Al-Rashedeen Army) said: "There is no doubt that Iran poses a major threat, but we believe that the danger is the first American occupation, The penetration and Iranian proliferation, happened because of the absence of American occupation and if we defeat the American occupation that would subside the Iranian threat, and if we defeat the US, we will be able to defeat all those who want to harm Iraq".

As per the Al-Rashedeen Army opinion on "Awake councils", they define them as: American made, designed and producing in Rand institutions and others. Simple groups of local paid people fulfilling the order of Americans.[2]

Nekako nejasno/mutno...U neku ruku i da...ali, kada se sve skupa pogleda, i ne bas...

Ipak, hvala na linkovima, jer sve ove grupacije su u "zaledju" tekfirdzijske al-Kaide, te se o njima vrlo malo zna.

Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT 4m4 minutes ago

RT crew 5 kms from the hotly contested #syria town of #Sheikh_Miskeen. Explosions, shooting ceaseless. Heading in...

Opetja033 wrote:

salik79 wrote:

Opetja033 wrote:
Evo ti tri najpoznatije arapsko-sunnitske grupe koje su bile aktivne protiv okupacije a teoloski veze nisu imale sa Al Qaidom:

Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order, na celu sa velikim gospodinom i generalom Izzet al Dourijem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_t ... andi_Order

Islamic Army in Iraq:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Army_in_Iraq

Jaish al Rashidin (savez vise grupacija):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish_al-Rashideen

Inace interesantno je (to je @saxxxx pisao ali je vecini promaklo) da je Izzet al Douri i njegova Vojska Naksibendija podrzala Islamski Vojni Savez koji je osnovala Saudija. Iako je prvobitno saradjivao sa Daeshom, izgleda da su se distancirali.

Odlicno! Da vidimo da li sam bio u pravu u vezi moje tvrdnje (da ne znam niti za jednu NEtekfirdzijsku organizaciju koja je bila na nivou Sadrinih milicija, u pruzanju otpora Amerima:

1.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_t ... andi_Order

Although JRTN would only emerge as a group in 2006, JRTN members had been involved in anti-coalition actions earlier in the war, such as the 2003 Rixos Al Rasheed Baghdad Hotel, and the 2004 First Battle of Fallujah, where several Naqshbandia clerics associated with the JRTN were among the casualties.[8]

JRTN originally emerged as a group in December 2006, following the execution of Saddam Hussein. The group's original focus was on protecting Naqshbandis in Iraq from the oppression they were facing from radical Sunni Islamist insurgent groups, particularly al-Qaeda in Iraq, whose tactics, especially the targeting Iraqis and Sunni's, were opposed by JRTN's Sufi ideology.[8][9]

Pa...i ne bas


2.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Army_in_Iraq

The Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI) (Arabic: الجيش الإسلامي في العراق,al jaysh al islāmi fī'l-`irāq) is one of a number of underground Islamist militant (or mujahideen) organizations formed in Iraq following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by United States and coalition military forces, and the subsequent collapse of the Baathist government headed by Saddam Hussein.

Although it carries an Islamic title, the group combines Islamism with Iraqi nationalism, and has been labelled as "resistance" by Iraq's Sunni Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi despite regular attacks against Iraqi soldiers and policemen, as well as Shi'ite militias such as the Mahdi Army and the Badr Organization.

The precise details about the emergence of the IAI are unclear, although it is generally assumed that the group was established in the summer of 2003 to fight coalition forces.[3]

When the IAI first formed, it used kidnapping as a means of pursuing its goals. The group also threatened to target the January 2005 elections, although it didn't carry out any such attack. Unlike most resistance movement organizations today, the IAI does not have Salafist tendencies, its primary focus and goal being the expulsion of foreign troops from Iraq. A November 2004 Washington Post interview with the group's leader, Ishmael Jubouri, stated that the IAI was predominantly composed of Iraqis (Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds, and Arabs) trying to force foreign troops out of Iraq.[4] The Terrorism Monitor put out by The Jamestown Foundation confirms some of what Jubouri was claiming. In a March 2005 article, it states the group is composed primarily of Sunnis with a much smaller, but still present, Shiite congregation and, in general, is "[an] inclusive Islamic organization with Iraqi nationalist tendencies."[3][who?]

Paaaaaaa, tu i tamo...ali, ne bas

3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish_al-Rashideen

Established at the first day of the occupation, and began to collect weapons from the former Iraqi Army military camps in the suburbs of Baghdad, the Army announced its existence at the same day when its fighters carried out an attack against a US occupation patrol after nine days of the occupation of Baghdad. Al-Rashideen Army battalions are located in different parts of Iraq, including the provinces of North and South.[1]

Al-Rashideen Army claims that it does not stop with its military appearances, but go deep in understanding the occupation project, which is not aimed at Iraq alone. It thinks that the occupation program begins with the occupation of this country, and sequentially aims against Arabism and Islam everywhere. Al-Rashideen high commanders say that they are following these goals and motivations of occupation strategy and the role of the neo-conservatives and international Zionism.

Based on the previous vision, Al-Rashideen Army puts its strategic vision, and identify its options and positions in the field according to a program aimed to achieving its near and far objectives.

Al-Zubaidi (from the political office of Al-Rashedeen Army) said: "There is no doubt that Iran poses a major threat, but we believe that the danger is the first American occupation, The penetration and Iranian proliferation, happened because of the absence of American occupation and if we defeat the American occupation that would subside the Iranian threat, and if we defeat the US, we will be able to defeat all those who want to harm Iraq".

As per the Al-Rashedeen Army opinion on "Awake councils", they define them as: American made, designed and producing in Rand institutions and others. Simple groups of local paid people fulfilling the order of Americans.[2]

Nekako nejasno/mutno...U neku ruku i da...ali, kada se sve skupa pogleda, i ne bas...

Ipak, hvala na linkovima, jer sve ove grupacije su u "zaledju" tekfirdzijske al-Kaide, te se o njima vrlo malo zna.

Bitku za Faludzu su vodile naksibendije, vodja otpora je bio lokalni naksibendijski sejh. Faludza je simbol irackog otpora, ne postoji grad u Iraku koji se moze mjeriti sa Faludzom. A otpor su vodile sunnije-sufije/naksibendije.

Slazem se sa tobom da su ove grupacije nazalost pale u drugi plan.

Mlohavi wrote:

Murad Gazdiev ‏@MuradoRT 4m4 minutes ago

RT crew 5 kms from the hotly contested #syria town of #Sheikh_Miskeen. Explosions, shooting ceaseless. Heading in...

Pao jos nije. Junacine izdrzite do 2016.

Sretna nova forumasima, a Sirijci da sto prije imaju razlog za slavlje.

salik79 wrote:

Opetja033 wrote:
Bitku za Faludzu su vodile naksibendije, vodja otpora je bio lokalni naksibendijski sejh. Faludza je simbol irackog otpora, ne postoji grad u Iraku koji se moze mjeriti sa Faludzom. A otpor su vodile sunnije-sufije/naksibendije.

Slazem se sa tobom da su ove grupacije nazalost pale u drugi plan.

Drago mi je za Faludzu, ako je tako, ali kako se zvala ta milicija?! Ili su bile samoorganizovane skupine, bez naziva i ustrojstva?

Faludza jeste primjer otpora, ali ne zaboravi i Sadr City. Kao sto i Aleksa potvrdi, preko 50% americkih-vojnih zrtava je od strane Sadrine milicije.

Opetja033 wrote:

salik79 wrote:

Opetja033 wrote:
Bitku za Faludzu su vodile naksibendije, vodja otpora je bio lokalni naksibendijski sejh. Faludza je simbol irackog otpora, ne postoji grad u Iraku koji se moze mjeriti sa Faludzom. A otpor su vodile sunnije-sufije/naksibendije.

Slazem se sa tobom da su ove grupacije nazalost pale u drugi plan.

Drago mi je za Faludzu, ako je tako, ali kako se zvala ta milicija?! Ili su bile samoorganizovane skupine, bez naziva i ustrojstva?

Faludza jeste primjer otpora, ali ne zaboravi i Sadr City. Kao sto i Aleksa potvrdi, preko 50% americkih-vojnih zrtava je od strane Sadrine milicije.

Samoorganizovane, lokalne skupine iz Faludze. Nasao sam negdje i ime tog sejha, cini mi se da sam ga postavljao i na temi o Iraku (ili staroj o Siriji, nisam siguran). Ako nadjem ponovo, javim ti.

Naravno da je Sadrova milicija bila efikasnija, pogotovo jer se nisu borili na dva fronta, za razliku od svih sunnitskih. Plus jos sto je imao znacajnu podrsku dijela tada vladajucih struktura u Iraku kao i Irana.

Inace je interesantan podatak da su Sadr, bin Laden i Zawahiri dogovorili zajednicki otpor okupacijskim snagama, zaustavljanje sektaskog nasilja. Medjutim ona budaletina Zarqawi se hladno popisao po svoj trojici. Ono je bio bas kvalitetan komad budale, bio je brutalniji i krvolocniji i od Baghdadija danas.