Vežite ga, radite mu nešto, ovako više ne idesarajevoxxxx wrote:Djecoubice i monstrumi brutalno zgaženi u Šejh Miskinu. u Deri.
Sirija vol. 2
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#9201 Re: Sirija vol. 2
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#9202 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Maystor wrote:Vežite ga, radite mu nešto, ovako više ne idesarajevoxxxx wrote:Djecoubice i monstrumi brutalno zgaženi u Šejh Miskinu. u Deri.
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#9203 Re: Sirija vol. 2
sarajevoxxxx wrote:Nagli porast nivoa vode na brani Tišrin prijeti da potopi Requ i 470 sela u okolini Reqe.
Pacovi se boje vode kada krene voda iz rupa ce izaci svi van i bice lakse deratizirani.
ZLO NIKAD NECE POBIJEDITI UPAMTI.
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#9204 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Breaking: Syrian Army reaches the Al-Umari Mosque inside Sheikh Miskeen
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/bre ... h-miskeen/ | Al-Masdar News
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/bre ... h-miskeen/ | Al-Masdar News
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#9205 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Nizvodno od Tishrin brane je ogromna akumulacija, "Lake Assad".sarajevoxxxx wrote:Nagli porast nivoa vode na brani Tišrin prijeti da potopi Requ i 470 sela u okolini Reqe.
Dok Tishrin brana zadrzava cini mi se 1,3 km kubnih vode, ta akumulacija nizvodno drzi preko 11.
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#9206 Re: Sirija vol. 2
#درعا قوات الأسد تقتحم مدينة #الشيخ_مسكين في ريف درعا الغربي وسط غطاء ناري كثيف، وكتائب الثوار تتصدى لها على مداخل المدينة، وماتزال الاشتباكات مستمرة حتى الآن.
#Daraa Assad's forces storm #Sheikh_Miskeen city, in the western suburb of Daraa, amid intensive firing, and rebel battalions thwart them at city's entrances. The clashes are still continuing until now.
#Daraa Assad's forces storm #Sheikh_Miskeen city, in the western suburb of Daraa, amid intensive firing, and rebel battalions thwart them at city's entrances. The clashes are still continuing until now.
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#9207 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Ironmen wrote:
ZLO NIKAD NECE POBIJEDITI UPAMTI.
Da i ti nešto dobroo napišeš. Svaka čast!
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#9208 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Prije minut zgazeni, sad bas ono i nisu
Savo znas li plivat?
Savo znas li plivat?
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#9209 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Isil i danas nastavio napredovati u sjevernoj okolini Haleba, gdje su sela Delha i Hardželeh pala u ruke Isila, nakon borbi sa borcima opozicije.
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#9210 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Kurdi i lokalni Arapi su jos jucer bacali drvlje i kanenje na Tursku. Navodno, poplave su izazvane radi odredjenih 'radova' na brani Kemal Ataturk, za koju ne'am pojma gdje se nalazi.Mlohavi wrote:Nizvodno od Tishrin brane je ogromna akumulacija, "Lake Assad".sarajevoxxxx wrote:Nagli porast nivoa vode na brani Tišrin prijeti da potopi Requ i 470 sela u okolini Reqe.![]()
Dok Tishrin brana zadrzava cini mi se 1,3 km kubnih vode, ta akumulacija nizvodno drzi preko 11.Naravno da je nemoguce predvidjeti sta bi se desilo al' eto samo da napomenem da i nizvodno ima veca i jaca brana. Ako bi vec ona bila ugrozena, sranje.
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#9211 Re: Sirija vol. 2
US helped create Daesh: former American marine

Vincent Emanuele is a former US marine of two tours to Iraq
Iraq war veteran Vincent Emanuele says US policies in the Arab country have helped create the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group, which is now wreaking havoc in the Middle East.
In a recent article posted on TeleSUR’s English website, former Marine Emanuele, who fought during the US-led war against Iraq, acknowledged the part he and his fellow troops played in the creation of the Takfiri group.
“When I was stationed in Iraq with the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 2003-2005, I didn’t know what the repercussions of the war would be, but I knew there would be a reckoning,” he wrote.
“That retribution, otherwise known as blowback, is currently being experienced around the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, France, Tunisia, California, and so on), with no end in sight,” he added.
In an interview with Russia Today (RT) on Tuesday, Emanuele said the creation of ISIL is the result of the conditions the US strategy caused during the Iraq war.
Emanuele spoke of atrocities by US marines against Iraqi civilians during the war. “I saw my fellow marines kill innocent people, torture innocent civilians, destroying property, mutilating dead bodies, running over dead corpses, laughing and photographing people while doing so.”
“For me it was very simple. I sat there in Iraq and I asked myself ‘How would I behave?’ ‘What would I think if I was in the shoes of the Iraqi people?’”
He said many US soldiers would pelt Iraqi children with bottles full of urine, and tortured Iraqi prisoners. The American veteran believes the Iraq war was part of a long history of the US aggression.
“I vividly remember the marines telling me about punching, slapping, kicking, elbowing, kneeing and head-butting Iraqis. I remember the tales of sexual torture; forcing Iraqi men to perform sexual acts on each other while marines held knives against their testicles, sometimes sodomizing them with batons,” Emanuele wrote in his TeleSUR article.
Daesh terrorists, who had been trained by the CIA and funded by the US allies in the Middle East to topple the Syrian government, currently control parts of Syria and Iraq. They have threatened all communities, including Shias, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Izadi Kurds and others, as they continue their atrocities in Iraq and Syria.
I onda ovi zaljubljenici u US "demokratiju", s jedne, te zagovornici ponovne uspostave umejevickog Halifata, s druge strane, dodju prosipati demagogiju i snebivati se nad "zlocinima SAA i njenih saveznika"
A porediti sljedbenike Jezidovske doktrine ophodjenja prema ratnim zarobljenicima (i civilima) i borce ARBiH je vise nego degutantno!

Vincent Emanuele is a former US marine of two tours to Iraq
Iraq war veteran Vincent Emanuele says US policies in the Arab country have helped create the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group, which is now wreaking havoc in the Middle East.
In a recent article posted on TeleSUR’s English website, former Marine Emanuele, who fought during the US-led war against Iraq, acknowledged the part he and his fellow troops played in the creation of the Takfiri group.
“When I was stationed in Iraq with the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 2003-2005, I didn’t know what the repercussions of the war would be, but I knew there would be a reckoning,” he wrote.
“That retribution, otherwise known as blowback, is currently being experienced around the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, France, Tunisia, California, and so on), with no end in sight,” he added.
In an interview with Russia Today (RT) on Tuesday, Emanuele said the creation of ISIL is the result of the conditions the US strategy caused during the Iraq war.
Emanuele spoke of atrocities by US marines against Iraqi civilians during the war. “I saw my fellow marines kill innocent people, torture innocent civilians, destroying property, mutilating dead bodies, running over dead corpses, laughing and photographing people while doing so.”
“For me it was very simple. I sat there in Iraq and I asked myself ‘How would I behave?’ ‘What would I think if I was in the shoes of the Iraqi people?’”
He said many US soldiers would pelt Iraqi children with bottles full of urine, and tortured Iraqi prisoners. The American veteran believes the Iraq war was part of a long history of the US aggression.
“I vividly remember the marines telling me about punching, slapping, kicking, elbowing, kneeing and head-butting Iraqis. I remember the tales of sexual torture; forcing Iraqi men to perform sexual acts on each other while marines held knives against their testicles, sometimes sodomizing them with batons,” Emanuele wrote in his TeleSUR article.
Daesh terrorists, who had been trained by the CIA and funded by the US allies in the Middle East to topple the Syrian government, currently control parts of Syria and Iraq. They have threatened all communities, including Shias, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Izadi Kurds and others, as they continue their atrocities in Iraq and Syria.
I onda ovi zaljubljenici u US "demokratiju", s jedne, te zagovornici ponovne uspostave umejevickog Halifata, s druge strane, dodju prosipati demagogiju i snebivati se nad "zlocinima SAA i njenih saveznika"
A porediti sljedbenike Jezidovske doktrine ophodjenja prema ratnim zarobljenicima (i civilima) i borce ARBiH je vise nego degutantno!
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#9212 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Maystor wrote:Vežite ga, radite mu nešto, ovako više ne idesarajevoxxxx wrote:Djecoubice i monstrumi brutalno zgaženi u Šejh Miskinu. u Deri.
sad cu i ja ko birvaktile on "hehehe, hihihi"
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#9213 Re: Sirija vol. 2
ovo kvotanje s rt.a je pouzdano ko marin k....salik79 wrote:US helped create Daesh: former American marine
Vincent Emanuele is a former US marine of two tours to Iraq
Iraq war veteran Vincent Emanuele says US policies in the Arab country have helped create the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group, which is now wreaking havoc in the Middle East.
In a recent article posted on TeleSUR’s English website, former Marine Emanuele, who fought during the US-led war against Iraq, acknowledged the part he and his fellow troops played in the creation of the Takfiri group.
“When I was stationed in Iraq with the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 2003-2005, I didn’t know what the repercussions of the war would be, but I knew there would be a reckoning,” he wrote.
“That retribution, otherwise known as blowback, is currently being experienced around the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, France, Tunisia, California, and so on), with no end in sight,” he added.
In an interview with Russia Today (RT) on Tuesday, Emanuele said the creation of ISIL is the result of the conditions the US strategy caused during the Iraq war.
Emanuele spoke of atrocities by US marines against Iraqi civilians during the war. “I saw my fellow marines kill innocent people, torture innocent civilians, destroying property, mutilating dead bodies, running over dead corpses, laughing and photographing people while doing so.”
“For me it was very simple. I sat there in Iraq and I asked myself ‘How would I behave?’ ‘What would I think if I was in the shoes of the Iraqi people?’”
He said many US soldiers would pelt Iraqi children with bottles full of urine, and tortured Iraqi prisoners. The American veteran believes the Iraq war was part of a long history of the US aggression.
“I vividly remember the marines telling me about punching, slapping, kicking, elbowing, kneeing and head-butting Iraqis. I remember the tales of sexual torture; forcing Iraqi men to perform sexual acts on each other while marines held knives against their testicles, sometimes sodomizing them with batons,” Emanuele wrote in his TeleSUR article.
Daesh terrorists, who had been trained by the CIA and funded by the US allies in the Middle East to topple the Syrian government, currently control parts of Syria and Iraq. They have threatened all communities, including Shias, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Izadi Kurds and others, as they continue their atrocities in Iraq and Syria.
I onda ovi zaljubljenici u US "demokratiju", s jedne, te zagovornici ponovne uspostave umejevickog Halifata, s druge strane, dodju prosipati demagogiju i snebivati se nad "zlocinima SAA i njenih saveznika"![]()
A porediti sljedbenike Jezidovske doktrine ophodjenja prema ratnim zarobljenicima (i civilima) i borce ARBiH je vise nego degutantno!
ono zna na dnu lanca koj ga je napravio i zasto.-.dajte ba...
ruski kanal na engleskom jeziku pa ne cujemo vijest po mjesec dana iz rusije,osi ako nije kakva pres putina...
bog te ne jebo,samo vijesti u americi lose4 u engleskoj jos gore, u njemackoj i evropi katastrofa..
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#9214 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Ovo sto je ovaj lik napis'o i dio koji je dodao onaj ko je pis'o tekst nikakve veze nemaju
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#9215 Re: Sirija vol. 2
vi iranovi glasnogovornici na klixu bi to morali malo bolje znat,odakle su teroristi dolazili i gdje su se sakrivali od amera..ko ih je podrzavo dok su ratovali sa velikim sejtanom...
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#9216 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Nema. Uvijek zavrsavaju clanak svojom napomenom o ratu u Siriji. Za to postoje i znaci navodainsomnia78 wrote:Ovo sto je ovaj lik napis'o i dio koji je dodao onaj ko je pis'o tekst nikakve veze nemaju
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#9217 Re: Sirija vol. 2
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#9218 Re: Sirija vol. 2
sumirprimus wrote:vi iranovi glasnogovornici na klixu bi to morali malo bolje znat,odakle su teroristi dolazili i gdje su se sakrivali od amera..ko ih je podrzavo dok su ratovali sa velikim sejtanom...
Ovi koji pripadaju Isilu, te ostalim umejevickim "slobodarima", su uvijek na prvom mjestu mrzili sije i Iran, tako da slobodno mozes zajebat tu spiku.
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#9219 Re: Sirija vol. 2
sta je ovo....neko ga koknu?Mlohavi wrote:Tesko al' ako vise puta pogledam ovaj video, mozda mi bude malo lakse.Herr Flick wrote:
Treba da budes sretan![]()
Ne pomaze, dzaba sve.
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#9220 Re: Sirija vol. 2
ovde najvise zla ima u tvom komentu.Ironmen wrote:sarajevoxxxx wrote:Nagli porast nivoa vode na brani Tišrin prijeti da potopi Requ i 470 sela u okolini Reqe.
Pacovi se boje vode kada krene voda iz rupa ce izaci svi van i bice lakse deratizirani.
ZLO NIKAD NECE POBIJEDITI UPAMTI.
- salik79
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#9221 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Jel to nesto slagao?! Bilo sta? Molim da oznacis sporne stavke!sumirprimus wrote:ovo kvotanje s rt.a je pouzdano ko marin k....salik79 wrote:US helped create Daesh: former American marine
Vincent Emanuele is a former US marine of two tours to Iraq
Iraq war veteran Vincent Emanuele says US policies in the Arab country have helped create the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group, which is now wreaking havoc in the Middle East.
In a recent article posted on TeleSUR’s English website, former Marine Emanuele, who fought during the US-led war against Iraq, acknowledged the part he and his fellow troops played in the creation of the Takfiri group.
“When I was stationed in Iraq with the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 2003-2005, I didn’t know what the repercussions of the war would be, but I knew there would be a reckoning,” he wrote.
“That retribution, otherwise known as blowback, is currently being experienced around the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, France, Tunisia, California, and so on), with no end in sight,” he added.
In an interview with Russia Today (RT) on Tuesday, Emanuele said the creation of ISIL is the result of the conditions the US strategy caused during the Iraq war.
Emanuele spoke of atrocities by US marines against Iraqi civilians during the war. “I saw my fellow marines kill innocent people, torture innocent civilians, destroying property, mutilating dead bodies, running over dead corpses, laughing and photographing people while doing so.”
“For me it was very simple. I sat there in Iraq and I asked myself ‘How would I behave?’ ‘What would I think if I was in the shoes of the Iraqi people?’”
He said many US soldiers would pelt Iraqi children with bottles full of urine, and tortured Iraqi prisoners. The American veteran believes the Iraq war was part of a long history of the US aggression.
“I vividly remember the marines telling me about punching, slapping, kicking, elbowing, kneeing and head-butting Iraqis. I remember the tales of sexual torture; forcing Iraqi men to perform sexual acts on each other while marines held knives against their testicles, sometimes sodomizing them with batons,” Emanuele wrote in his TeleSUR article.
Daesh terrorists, who had been trained by the CIA and funded by the US allies in the Middle East to topple the Syrian government, currently control parts of Syria and Iraq. They have threatened all communities, including Shias, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Izadi Kurds and others, as they continue their atrocities in Iraq and Syria.
I onda ovi zaljubljenici u US "demokratiju", s jedne, te zagovornici ponovne uspostave umejevickog Halifata, s druge strane, dodju prosipati demagogiju i snebivati se nad "zlocinima SAA i njenih saveznika"![]()
A porediti sljedbenike Jezidovske doktrine ophodjenja prema ratnim zarobljenicima (i civilima) i borce ARBiH je vise nego degutantno!
ono zna na dnu lanca koj ga je napravio i zasto.-.dajte ba...
ruski kanal na engleskom jeziku pa ne cujemo vijest po mjesec dana iz rusije,osi ako nije kakva pres putina...
bog te ne jebo,samo vijesti u americi lose4 u engleskoj jos gore, u njemackoj i evropi katastrofa..
- insomnia78
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#9222 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Da, samo sto on uopste nije pric'o o tomesalik79 wrote:Nema. Uvijek zavrsavaju clanak svojom napomenom o ratu u Siriji. Za to postoje i znaci navodainsomnia78 wrote:Ovo sto je ovaj lik napis'o i dio koji je dodao onaj ko je pis'o tekst nikakve veze nemaju
Jasno je rek'o da on misli da je odnos americke vojske prema civilima i protivnicima u Iraku djelom doveo do radikalizacije i formiranja Daesha a oni onda dodaju standardne CIA-Vatikan gluposti i eto ti "dokaza" da je Amerika napravila Daesh
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#9223 Re: Sirija vol. 2
ma ja i ne razumijem to umejvije podsjeca malo na majevicu a nije.salik79 wrote:sumirprimus wrote:vi iranovi glasnogovornici na klixu bi to morali malo bolje znat,odakle su teroristi dolazili i gdje su se sakrivali od amera..ko ih je podrzavo dok su ratovali sa velikim sejtanom...
Ovi koji pripadaju Isilu, te ostalim umejevickim "slobodarima", su uvijek na prvom mjestu mrzili sije i Iran, tako da slobodno mozes zajebat tu spiku.
al nije zajebat nego li,asadov rezim i iran su zajednio podrzavali teroriste u iraku i ljudstvom i tehnikom, i sigurnim skrovistima,svako sa svoje strane.e sad kad se zlo prelilo i u asadaovo dvoriste jebiga ima problem evidentno je,i sto mu ostane od drzave,nek mu je sa srecom...
- sunceKOtepsija
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#9224 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Kikibombona wrote:Kurdi i lokalni Arapi su jos jucer bacali drvlje i kanenje na Tursku. Navodno, poplave su izazvane radi odredjenih 'radova' na brani Kemal Ataturk, za koju ne'am pojma gdje se nalazi.Mlohavi wrote:Nizvodno od Tishrin brane je ogromna akumulacija, "Lake Assad".sarajevoxxxx wrote:Nagli porast nivoa vode na brani Tišrin prijeti da potopi Requ i 470 sela u okolini Reqe.![]()
Dok Tishrin brana zadrzava cini mi se 1,3 km kubnih vode, ta akumulacija nizvodno drzi preko 11.Naravno da je nemoguce predvidjeti sta bi se desilo al' eto samo da napomenem da i nizvodno ima veca i jaca brana. Ako bi vec ona bila ugrozena, sranje.
- insomnia78
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#9225 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Nije slag'o on, ovo o cemu on prica je opstepoznato, vidjeno, pale su i neke presude islsalik79 wrote:Jel to nesto slagao?! Bilo sta? Molim da oznacis sporne stavke!sumirprimus wrote:ovo kvotanje s rt.a je pouzdano ko marin k....salik79 wrote:US helped create Daesh: former American marine
Vincent Emanuele is a former US marine of two tours to Iraq
Iraq war veteran Vincent Emanuele says US policies in the Arab country have helped create the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group, which is now wreaking havoc in the Middle East.
In a recent article posted on TeleSUR’s English website, former Marine Emanuele, who fought during the US-led war against Iraq, acknowledged the part he and his fellow troops played in the creation of the Takfiri group.
“When I was stationed in Iraq with the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 2003-2005, I didn’t know what the repercussions of the war would be, but I knew there would be a reckoning,” he wrote.
“That retribution, otherwise known as blowback, is currently being experienced around the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, France, Tunisia, California, and so on), with no end in sight,” he added.
In an interview with Russia Today (RT) on Tuesday, Emanuele said the creation of ISIL is the result of the conditions the US strategy caused during the Iraq war.
Emanuele spoke of atrocities by US marines against Iraqi civilians during the war. “I saw my fellow marines kill innocent people, torture innocent civilians, destroying property, mutilating dead bodies, running over dead corpses, laughing and photographing people while doing so.”
“For me it was very simple. I sat there in Iraq and I asked myself ‘How would I behave?’ ‘What would I think if I was in the shoes of the Iraqi people?’”
He said many US soldiers would pelt Iraqi children with bottles full of urine, and tortured Iraqi prisoners. The American veteran believes the Iraq war was part of a long history of the US aggression.
“I vividly remember the marines telling me about punching, slapping, kicking, elbowing, kneeing and head-butting Iraqis. I remember the tales of sexual torture; forcing Iraqi men to perform sexual acts on each other while marines held knives against their testicles, sometimes sodomizing them with batons,” Emanuele wrote in his TeleSUR article.
Daesh terrorists, who had been trained by the CIA and funded by the US allies in the Middle East to topple the Syrian government, currently control parts of Syria and Iraq. They have threatened all communities, including Shias, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, Izadi Kurds and others, as they continue their atrocities in Iraq and Syria.
I onda ovi zaljubljenici u US "demokratiju", s jedne, te zagovornici ponovne uspostave umejevickog Halifata, s druge strane, dodju prosipati demagogiju i snebivati se nad "zlocinima SAA i njenih saveznika"![]()
A porediti sljedbenike Jezidovske doktrine ophodjenja prema ratnim zarobljenicima (i civilima) i borce ARBiH je vise nego degutantno!
ono zna na dnu lanca koj ga je napravio i zasto.-.dajte ba...
ruski kanal na engleskom jeziku pa ne cujemo vijest po mjesec dana iz rusije,osi ako nije kakva pres putina...
bog te ne jebo,samo vijesti u americi lose4 u engleskoj jos gore, u njemackoj i evropi katastrofa..
RT manipulise njegovom izjavom i izvodi zakljucke koje on uopste ne spominje
