#9001 Re: Corona cjepivo/vakcina - News
Posted: 13/07/2021 14:20
Nomen est omen 
Mitchell Tsai
Virus researcher at Harvard Medical School in 1980s16h ago
Notes:
(1) Pfizer in Mar 2021 claimed its vaccine was 91.3% effective for six months (in their phase 3 trial). The 91.3% was obtained by averaging efficacy over the entire six months.
(2) Peak efficacy in the phase 3 trial was 96% (Some Israel data saw 97–98% efficacy around month 2).
(3) By looking at Pfizer information from Nov 2020 and Mar 2021, it was possible to calculate the average month 3–6 efficacy as 90%, however Pfizer released very limited information in Mar 2021.
(4) But it was impossible to see what month 5 and month 6 efficacy were.
(5) Pfizer (on July 9 or earlier) said efficacy drops to “mid-80s after six months.” Due to ambiguity this may refer to month 6, month 7, the last week of month 6, or ????
My guess is 83–85%, since if efficacy were 86%, Pfizer probably would have said “over 85%” or “high-80s”.
(6) Note: “mid-80s after six months” DOES NOT include loss of effectiveness due to Delta. Phase 3 trials people were vaccinated around July 2020 - August 2020, so six months may be Jan 2021 - Mar 2021 (depending on how whether it was six months after the 1st shot or 2nd shot or “14+ days after 2nd shot”), before Delta was common.
(7) Israel said 64% effectiveness (versus 90–95% Delta) and most of the cases were in people vaccinated early in Jan 2021 - Feb 2021.
(8) Speculation: Since the 64% is an average of people vaccinated early and late. Early vaccinated people may have already dropped to 30–50% effectiveness due to
(A) 5–6 month vaccine fade
(B) Delta
(9) Pfizer said their internal data was consistent with the Israel 64% number, showing
(A) a further decline in effectiveness after 6 months
(B) especially with old people
Scientists and politicians were frustrated with Pfizer though for not releasing any details to the public (either top-level summary numbers, or more detailed data).
Od svih teorija zavjere vezanih za COVID, najvjerovatnija je "potapanje" AZ vakcine lošim PR-om od strane konkurenta.daddy-kool wrote: ↑15/07/2021 17:43Mitchell Tsai
Virus researcher at Harvard Medical School in 1980s16h ago
Notes:
(1) Pfizer in Mar 2021 claimed its vaccine was 91.3% effective for six months (in their phase 3 trial). The 91.3% was obtained by averaging efficacy over the entire six months.
(2) Peak efficacy in the phase 3 trial was 96% (Some Israel data saw 97–98% efficacy around month 2).
(3) By looking at Pfizer information from Nov 2020 and Mar 2021, it was possible to calculate the average month 3–6 efficacy as 90%, however Pfizer released very limited information in Mar 2021.
(4) But it was impossible to see what month 5 and month 6 efficacy were.
(5) Pfizer (on July 9 or earlier) said efficacy drops to “mid-80s after six months.” Due to ambiguity this may refer to month 6, month 7, the last week of month 6, or ????
My guess is 83–85%, since if efficacy were 86%, Pfizer probably would have said “over 85%” or “high-80s”.
(6) Note: “mid-80s after six months” DOES NOT include loss of effectiveness due to Delta. Phase 3 trials people were vaccinated around July 2020 - August 2020, so six months may be Jan 2021 - Mar 2021 (depending on how whether it was six months after the 1st shot or 2nd shot or “14+ days after 2nd shot”), before Delta was common.
(7) Israel said 64% effectiveness (versus 90–95% Delta) and most of the cases were in people vaccinated early in Jan 2021 - Feb 2021.
(8) Speculation: Since the 64% is an average of people vaccinated early and late. Early vaccinated people may have already dropped to 30–50% effectiveness due to
(A) 5–6 month vaccine fade
(B) Delta
(9) Pfizer said their internal data was consistent with the Israel 64% number, showing
(A) a further decline in effectiveness after 6 months
(B) especially with old people
Scientists and politicians were frustrated with Pfizer though for not releasing any details to the public (either top-level summary numbers, or more detailed data).
Jok ja, ima Zetra najbliza.Humljanin wrote: ↑10/07/2021 00:46Čuj u Šibenik si išao na vakcinu. Zar nema nigdje bliže?NediM17 wrote: ↑09/07/2021 13:50
Libo racku i 'rvaCku za takvima k'o sto si ti, al' ne kontate to vi dok vas braca ne ispisaju. Okrenite se sebi i ovoj zemlji, ona je vasa domovina, ne 'rvaCka.
I niko nije moljakao i cekao "ako koja doza ostane", nego fino cetvrtkom na Baldekinu (@Humljanin )termin za vakcinaciju stranih drzavljana. Jest' da su se malo qrcili i srali u stilu "budite nam zahvalni" za razliku od Srbije gdje su ljudi fakat bili gotivni.![]()
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Sigurno da u tome ima istine, ali su i sami istrživači sa Oxforda i AZ pucali sebi u nogu razvlačenjem treće faze, igranjem sa različitim kriterijima prilikom ispitivanja, i masiranjem statistike. U svakom slučaju sada već imamo real world data na velikom broju vakcinisanih, Vaxzevria dobra vakcina.
Tako jehladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:09 broj zataženih u UK i broj umrlih trenutno su ogroman dokaz učinkovitosti AZ vakcine u sprečavanju hospitalizacije i smrti, a što je jedini logičan rezultat vakcinacije. virus se neće istrijebiti, to samo budale očekuju.
jedini broj koji je sada bitan je broj hospitalizacija i broj teško oboljelih i umrlih.
broj pozitivnih je u potpunosti nebitan
hladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:09 broj zataženih u UK i broj umrlih trenutno su ogroman dokaz učinkovitosti AZ vakcine u sprečavanju hospitalizacije i smrti, a što je jedini logičan rezultat vakcinacije. virus se neće istrijebiti, to samo budale očekuju.
jedini broj koji je sada bitan je broj hospitalizacija i broj teško oboljelih i umrlih.
broj pozitivnih je u potpunosti nebitan
Vrhunac!hladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:26 sjetimo se samo:
ljudi padaju po cesti u wuhanu od virusa,
špricanje čitavih naselja dezinficijesnom
masovnih grobnica u new yorku (obična groblja, sa dijelom za beskućnike kojih ima par stotina hiljada u NY)
hladnjača po gradu za umrle
masovnih grobnica u brazilu
prevoza umrlih vojim kamionima u bergamu
masovnih grobnica u indiji
proizvodnje prvog dezinfekcijskog tunela u BiH u doboju gjde se cijela vlast RS usliakala
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Koliko je zaista efikasan dezinfekcijski tunel. Jesu li provedena istraživanja, je li ikad bila uključena "struka"... Koliko je novca potrošena na izgradnji i instalaliranju ovih tunela...hladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:26 sjetimo se samo:
proizvodnje prvog dezinfekcijskog tunela u BiH u doboju gjde se cijela vlast RS usliakala
itd. itd
efikasan protiv virusa kao i brezova metla.high_volume wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:59Koliko je zaista efikasan dezinfekcijski tunel. Jesu li provedena istraživanja, je li ikad bila uključena "struka"... Koliko je novca potrošena na izgradnji i instalaliranju ovih tunela...hladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:26 sjetimo se samo:
proizvodnje prvog dezinfekcijskog tunela u BiH u doboju gjde se cijela vlast RS usliakala
itd. itd
Naslovnica wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:30Vrhunac!hladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:26 sjetimo se samo:
ljudi padaju po cesti u wuhanu od virusa,
špricanje čitavih naselja dezinficijesnom
masovnih grobnica u new yorku (obična groblja, sa dijelom za beskućnike kojih ima par stotina hiljada u NY)
hladnjača po gradu za umrle
masovnih grobnica u brazilu
prevoza umrlih vojim kamionima u bergamu
masovnih grobnica u indiji
proizvodnje prvog dezinfekcijskog tunela u BiH u doboju gjde se cijela vlast RS usliakala
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Tako'e.hladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 11:49seoBIH wrote: ↑16/07/2021 11:28
Sta i ti čitašOvo je totalno clickbait stranica koja siri lazne vijesti da sto vise ljudi posjeti stranicu. Evo i ti im pomazes
Prijavi policiji za sirenje panike i to ce biti ono sto je produktivno
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to je sve krenulo od priloga rtl-a
Al mi vadi mast kad si ti vani u 12 a ja u 9 lezim vec
Tako je. UK je extra real world primjer uspješnosti vakcine i učinkovitosti AZ vakcine. Još samo da je i naš narod ubijediti da je AZ dobra vakcina pa da i mi konačno više izrađeno iz ovog sranja.hladan.preminger wrote: ↑16/07/2021 08:09 broj zataženih u UK i broj umrlih trenutno su ogroman dokaz učinkovitosti AZ vakcine u sprečavanju hospitalizacije i smrti, a što je jedini logičan rezultat vakcinacije. virus se neće istrijebiti, to samo budale očekuju.
jedini broj koji je sada bitan je broj hospitalizacija i broj teško oboljelih i umrlih.
broj pozitivnih je u potpunosti nebitan