A i ti vala @PRO testantu. Nista ti nisi manje naporan od svog ahbaba Kotromanicha - u pet deka, gor' dol'.
pa ako smo vam naporni nemoj te nas citati, ja znam da smo mi naporni jedno drugom, jer se cijelo vrijeme vodi bitka zmija davi zabu, kotromanich zmija protestant zaba, ja koliko ga davim da i sebe cu ugusiti
Ajde, molim te, ne lupetaj. Žao mi je da moram koristiti ovakav riječnik, ali sa nekim svojim glupostima prelaziš sve granice.
KotromanichII, naporan si k'o kocka uz brdo.
Sta kazes na to da bliskoistocni krscani svog Boga nazivaju Alahom? Podrazumjevali oni pod bogom Isusa ili Gospoda/Gospodina na njihovom jeziku bog je alah. Kontas? Lingua?
pa vi blage veze nemate o izvornom krscanstvu, kao prvo nije kotormanichII rekao da je isus zvao Boga allah, nego sami krscani, evo vam dokaza
Aramaic: Could Jesus Have Used the Same Word for “God” as the Muslims?
The Aramaic word for God is Elah, or Alaha, [14] also derived from El. [15] The ancient Hebrew word Elah, means “something strong,” like trees of the oak, rooted in Elijah, meaning God of YHWH, which again leads us to its root, El. [16]
Elah [17] is used about 70 times in the Old Testament. When combined with other words, we see different attributes of God. Some examples: Elah Yerush’lem - God of Jerusalem: (Ezra 7:19); Elah Yisrael - God of Israel: (Ezra 5:1); Elah Sh’maya - God of Heaven: (Ezra 7:23); Elah Sh’maya V’Arah - God of Heaven and Earth: (Ezra 5:11). [18]
There are also several verses in the Qur’an using Elah and its derivatives, Il or El. These words are specifically referred to in the Qur’an (see Sura 9:8 and 10). While some Islamic scholars understand it to mean blood ties, most others take it as short for the Arabic word Ilah, meaning “Lord.” It could also be the Arabicized Aramaic Hebrew for EL as in Ismael (Ishmael), which means “God listens” and/or Elah, or Deity, from its original Aramaic or Syriac. It may surprise some people to know that even Jesus used this form for God in Matt. 24:47 when he cried out in the Aramaic language, “Eli, Eli“, meaning “my God, my God.”
Jesus, an Aramaic speaker, would naturally use Alaha just as Aramaic speakers do today. It is simply the Aramaic version of the identical Arabic word Allah. “The cognate Aramaic term appears in the Aramaic version of the New Testament, called the Peshitta, as one of the words Jesus used to refer to God, e.g., in the sixth Beatitude, ‘Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see Alaha.’ The Arabic Bible uses the same word in Matt. 5:8, for instance, translated Allah.”
[14] The determined form, meaning “the God,” although in later Syriac when the determined forms lose their force, “Alaha” becomes the normal way of saying “God.”
[15] Dr. Imad Nicola Shehadeh, President and Professor of Theology, Jordan Evangelical Theological Seminary, private communication to author, Feb. 2006: “I agree with you that the term ‘Allah’ comes from the Aramaic/Syriac ‘Allaha’ (from now on, when I say Aramaic, I mean Aramaic/Syriac). The evidence is overwhelming. I have published an article on this in order to show that Allah was not originally a moon-god as some have suggested, but came from the Aramaic Allaha used by Jews and Christians of Muhammad’s day. (If interested, please see Bibliotheca Sacra journal, volume 161, issue 641, 2004).”
http://godfaithpen.com/2007/08/25/did-je...god-allah/
The Hebrew “eloh,” which is the name used for God in the Hebrew Bible, also comes from the proto-Semitic root “LH.” In Aramaic, the language related to Arabic and Hebrew and the one which Jesus spoke, the word for God is “alaha.” Morover, the name “Eloi,” which Jesus calls out on the cross in Mark 15:34, is nothing but the Hebrew translation of the Aramaic “alaha,” and
therefore Jesus would have called God “alaha,” which is very similar to “Allah.”
In other words, Jesus would have called God by the name “Allah.”
from wikipedia
The Arabic components that build-up the word "Allah"The term Allāh is derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- "the" and ʼilāh "deity, god" to al-lāh meaning "the [sole] deity, God" (ho theos monos).[4] Cognates of the name "Allāh" exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[3] Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural form (but functional singular) Elohim. The corresponding Aramaic form is ʼĔlāhā אֱלָהָא in Biblical Aramaic and ʼAlâhâ ܐܰܠܳܗܳܐ in Syriac.[13]
The contraction of al- and ʼilāh in forming the term Allāh ("the god", masculine form) parallels the contraction of al- and ʼilāha in forming the term Allāt ("the goddess", feminine form).[14]
cak i POP kaze da krscani trebaju zvati Boga Allah
Dutch bishop says Christians should call God ‘Allah’
The 71-year-old bishop told the program that he believes God doesn’t mind what he is called. He believes people are needlessly divided over the different names used to refer to God.
The bishop, who had worked in Indonesia, noted that even Christians use the term Allah for God there. The Dutch should learn to get on spontaneously with different cultures, religions and behavior patterns:
"Someone like me has prayed to Allah yang maha kuasa (Almighty God) for eight years in Indonesia and other priests for 20 or 30 years. In the heart of the Eucharist, God is called Allah over there, so why can't we start doing that together?" he was quoted as saying.
Bishop Muskens admitted that he did not think his suggestion would be welcomed readily and that it would take about 100 years before Catholics would feel comfortable calling God “Allah”.
a evo krscanskog odgovora na pitanje kako je Isus zvao Boga
Bible Studies - Alaha
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Expert: Marilyn - 2/11/2008
Question
Hello Marilyn, my next question is about this, Alaha, we know it is aramaic for God, muslims say that allah is derived from Alaha, what could you tell me about this?? Is there any truth to it, again I must say that because it is said that Jesus spoke in aramaic, the NT(New Testament) was written in aramaic and not koine greek, as it is said to be.
This is what an individual wrote about Alaha:
Here's something I pulled it from Jew Wiki.. the Jewish controlled Wikipedia site.
Alaha
Alaha is the Aramaic word meaning "God". Alaha (ܐܠܗܐ in Syriac script) means the One God transliterated from the Aramaic language. The Arabic Çááå Allah was derived from the Syriac term for God. Both terms apply to the God of Abraham (ܐܒܪܗܡ in Syriac script) and the Prophets (ܐܢܒܝܐ in Syriac script) that followed.
(Adapted from wikimedia, under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License)
http://mshikhani.pbwiki.com/Alaha
So, now that we've established that ELOI is ALAHI which is My Alaha or my GOD. I don't see how you Xtians can still say that Jesus didn't call Allah, or that he didn't practice the tenants of ISLAM. (PBUH)
I mean your argument would be valid if Jesus called Yahuwah. But he didn't. So, those of you who try to refer to Allah as pagan and say Jesus is the son of god have essentially condemned yourselves.
Was wondering if you could help clarifying this up for me, Peace and Blessings.
Answer
The debate rages around the term Allah or Alaha and the Name God. In Genesis 1:1 the Name English Bibles translate as "God" is Elohim, a latent plural Name indicating a minimum of Three Persons in One. The Name "Elohim" means "Strength & Faithfulness." According to the older versions of the Scofield Bible, the singular of Elohim is "Elah" often termed "Allah."
The point is: the God of the Bible is not a singular, He clearly calls Himself a Three in One from the first verse! He's Elohim!
To add to the confusion, elohim was also used to refer to angels. But, in the verse in the Psalms saying "man was created a little below the angels," the klix translation is "man was created a little below Elohim!" meaning God. How can man be created below angels when both the Psalms and Hebrews clearly say that angels are our servants? This problem occurs again in Hebrews 1 because Hebrews quotes the verse in Psalms. Bible translating is an art and though most translations are over 99% accurate, which is quite remarkable, they don't always get it 100%.
Here's another little tidbit to confuse everyone. There was a god called "El" back in the 2300's B.C. who was worshiped in the middle east. He was a Zeus-like being who birthed other gods then sat back to watch the show. (Shades of Gnosticism here.) Some have argued that the Hebrew God is actually El and they co-opted him from this other tribe. Here's that idea again that somehow the Bible isn't true and the Hebrews weren't creative enough to think of anything or receive any revelations of their own.
So what if Jesus cried "Alaha" as He suffered and died? Mohammed hadn't invented Islam yet. Jesus, historically and biblically, was totally and utterly Jewish (Josephus, the Jewish historian called Him a "Rabbi" who had many disciples).
And Aramaic was the language of the day. Big deal, Jesus cried "Alaha."
Sincerely,
Marilyn
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http://en.allexperts.com/q/Bible-Studie ... /Alaha.htm
I sta sad jeli kotromanichII izmislio ili krscani ???????????????????????
prije nego me napadnete, naoruzajte se znanjem, da neispadate glupi u svojoj vjeri
ali nema veze, forum je, pa se eto ne treba pisati toliko, ok 
