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Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

seln wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Poslije ovoga je kapak, Konesere je prekucala forum.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

Dakle, rasa je (samo kod ljudi) pored bioloskih i socijalni pojam, jer se bazira na fizickim, genetskim itd. znacajkama.
Kod zivotinja je to uvijek i samo bioloski pojam.

seln wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Poslije ovoga je kapak, Konesere je prekucala forum.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

Dakle, rasa je (samo kod ljudi) pored bioloskih i socijalni pojam, jer se bazira na fizickim, genetskim itd. znacajkama.
Kod zivotinja je to uvijek i samo bioloski pojam.

t is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

ne razumiem, kako samm diskiminirala na osovu boje kaze, ako sma rekla da mi se ne dopada tamnouti ten , mozda neko ne voli ten azijskih naroda, i sad bi trebalo radi takve izjave reci da je diskriminacija

udaljili smo se sa teme, a na kojoj upravo vecina vas prakticira etnicku diskiminaciju

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

seln wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Poslije ovoga je kapak, Konesere je prekucala forum.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

Dakle, rasa je (samo kod ljudi) pored bioloskih i socijalni pojam, jer se bazira na fizickim, genetskim itd. znacajkama.
Kod zivotinja je to uvijek i samo bioloski pojam.

ne postoji bioloska rasa

I

t is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/race

BHCluster wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

ne razumiem, kako samm diskiminirala na osovu boje kaze, ako sma rekla da mi se ne dopada tamnouti ten , mozda neko ne voli ten azijskih naroda, i sad bi trebalo radi takve izjave reci da je diskriminacija

udaljili smo se sa teme, a na kojoj upravo vecina vas prakticira etnicku diskiminaciju

Kada diskrimises nekoga zbog boje koze to je rasizam. A to si ti uradila! A ovo ostalo sto si udrobila se moze nazvati authentic Connaisseur Karlin BULLSHIT.

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

BHCluster wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

ne razumiem, kako samm diskiminirala na osovu boje kaze, ako sma rekla da mi se ne dopada tamnouti ten , mozda neko ne voli ten azijskih naroda, i sad bi trebalo radi takve izjave reci da je diskriminacija

udaljili smo se sa teme, a na kojoj upravo vecina vas prakticira etnicku diskiminaciju

Kada diskrimises nekoga zbog boje koze to je rasizam. A to si ti uradila! A ovo ostalo sto si udrobila se moze nazvati authentic Connaisseur Karlin BULLSHIT.

Kako sam diskiminirala, objasni

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: ne volim tamnopute

wonkaw wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: ne postoji bioloska rasa

I

t is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/race

There is indeed a biological basis for race.

Geneticists can now track along an individual’s genome, and assign each segment to an African or European ancestor, an exercise that would be impossible if race did not have some basis in biological reality.

http://time.com/91081/what-science-says ... -genetics/

the DOE Human Genome Program responded to the need for recognition and study of the potential ethical, legal and social impacts of the science we supported and crafted our program to explore genome-derived societal issues.

I AM AN African American,” says Duana Fullwiley, “but in parts of Africa, I am white.” To do fieldwork as a medical anthropologist in Senegal, she says, “I take a plane to France, a seven- to eight-hour ride. My race changes as I cross the Atlantic. There, I say, ‘Je suis noire,’ and they say, ‘Oh, okay—métisse—you are mixed.’ Then I fly another six to seven hours to Senegal, and I am white. In the space of a day, I can change from African American, to métisse, to tubaab [Wolof for “white/European”]. This is not a joke, or something to laugh at, or to take lightly. It is the kind of social recognition that even two-year-olds who can barely speak understand. ‘Tubaab,’ they say when they greet me.”

In fact, “There is no genetic basis for race,” says Fullwiley, who has studied the ethical, legal, and social implications of the human genome project with sociologist Troy Duster at UC, Berkeley. She sometimes quotes Richard Lewontin, now professor of biology and Agassiz professor of zoology emeritus, who said much the same thing in 1972, when he discovered that of all human genetic variation (which we now know to be just 0.1 percent of all genetic material), 85 percent occurs within geographically distinct groups, while 15 percent or less occurs between them. The issue today, Fullwiley says, is that many scientists are mining that 15 percent in search of human differences by continent.

BHCluster wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

BHCluster wrote: Kada diskrimises nekoga zbog boje koze to je rasizam. A to si ti uradila! A ovo ostalo sto si udrobila se moze nazvati authentic Connaisseur Karlin BULLSHIT.

Kako sam diskiminirala, objasni

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: ne volim tamnopute

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

LBVIEW wrote:
A nisam ni garav, no mozda ti bas takve trazis.

ne volim tamnopute

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

LBVIEW wrote:
A nisam ni garav, no mozda ti bas takve trazis.

ne volim tamnopute

BHCluster wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

LBVIEW wrote:
A nisam ni garav, no mozda ti bas takve trazis.

ne volim tamnopute

Samo radi koze, to je rasizam!

wonkaw wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: ne postoji bioloska rasa

It is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/race

There is indeed a biological basis for race.

Geneticists can now track along an individual’s genome, and assign each segment to an African or European ancestor, an exercise that would be impossible if race did not have some basis in biological reality.

http://time.com/91081/what-science-says ... -genetics/

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: 1. - mijesas nauku sa ideologijom:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rac ... 9b57da89ed


jod jedandio mog odgovora u vezi tvog clanka:

the DOE Human Genome Program responded to the need for recognition and study of the potential ethical, legal and social impacts of the science we supported and crafted our program to explore genome-derived societal issues.

Data from many sources have shown that humans are genetically homogeneous and that genetic variation tends to be shared widely among populations. Genetic variation is geographically structured, as expected from the partial isolation of human populations during much of their history. Because traditional concepts of race are in turn correlated with geography, 2. - it is inaccurate to state that race is biologically meaningless.

http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n1 ... g2150.html

a avo kako ljudi reagiraju na istu sociolosku rasu u razlicitim dijjelovima svijeta :

I AM AN African American,” says Duana Fullwiley, “but in parts of Africa, I am white.” To do fieldwork as a medical anthropologist in Senegal, she says, “I take a plane to France, a seven- to eight-hour ride. My race changes as I cross the Atlantic. There, I say, ‘Je suis noire,’ and they say, ‘Oh, okay—métisse—you are mixed.’ Then I fly another six to seven hours to Senegal, and I am white. In the space of a day, I can change from African American, to métisse, to tubaab [Wolof for “white/European”]. This is not a joke, or something to laugh at, or to take lightly. It is the kind of social recognition that even two-year-olds who can barely speak understand. ‘Tubaab,’ they say when they greet me.”

In fact, “There is no genetic basis for race,” says Fullwiley, who has studied the ethical, legal, and social implications of the human genome project with sociologist Troy Duster at UC, Berkeley. She sometimes quotes Richard Lewontin, now professor of biology and Agassiz professor of zoology emeritus, who said much the same thing in 1972, when he discovered that of all human genetic variation (which we now know to be just 0.1 percent of all genetic material), 85 percent occurs within geographically distinct groups, while 15 percent or less occurs between them. The issue today, Fullwiley says, is that many scientists are mining that 15 percent in search of human differences by continent.

nema potrebe da daljle vodimo debatu, otvorite novu temu, jer kosntano pisemo sadrzaj nevezan za temu na pdf politika

Point. wrote:Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:

BHCluster wrote:

Connaisseur Karlin wrote:
ne volim tamnopute

Samo radi koze, to je rasizam!

nije, jer boju koze nisam upotrijebila kao rasisticki element sa negativnim i diskiminirajucim komentarima pojedine etncike grupe

u mojoj gornjoj izjavi je bila konverzaija o bijelcima koji su tanije puti, a ne o tamnoputim osobama druih etnicih grupa procitaj ranije postove prije moje konverzacije sa LBVIEW

odjavjujem se sa teme, preterali smo

Hafis wrote:

Point. wrote:Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

Maraschino wrote:

Hafis wrote:

Point. wrote:Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

koji kompleksi tito dragi...ccc

spreca wrote: Ja ipak mislim da je nas Hafis Beg iz ravne Posavine ida je cak mozda blizi rodjak od Ilije i Marka Begica......to bi kolega Alfons Kauders preko svojih veza mogao provjeriti

Hafis wrote:

Point. wrote:Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

seln wrote:

Hafis wrote:

Point. wrote:Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

Ah! Pripadnik ugnjetavane i prezrene slovenacke nacionalne manjine u Koruskoj?
Windisch, sto bi rekli Austrijanci...
Dakle, stigli ste u Mostar kao izbjeglice?

Hafis wrote:To je tada bila zaostala jebena turska kasaba i trebalo je napraviti elektranu, rudnik, željeznicu, ceste, trotoare, bolnicu, groblja, sudove, kahvane, pozorište...sve što je ostali pošten svijet imao tada u Europi.

seln wrote:

Hafis wrote:To je tada bila zaostala jebena turska kasaba i trebalo je napraviti elektranu, rudnik, željeznicu, ceste, trotoare, bolnicu, groblja, sudove, kahvane, pozorište...sve što je ostali pošten svijet imao tada u Europi.

Pa zasto ne napravise, nego je moralo cekati Tita da bi se napravilo?

Hafis wrote:

seln wrote:

Hafis wrote:To je tada bila zaostala jebena turska kasaba i trebalo je napraviti elektranu, rudnik, željeznicu, ceste, trotoare, bolnicu, groblja, sudove, kahvane, pozorište...sve što je ostali pošten svijet imao tada u Europi.

Pa zasto ne napravise, nego je moralo cekati Tita da bi se napravilo?

Malo se informiraj bolje.
Austrijanci su napravili modernu jezgru grada, šetališta, ceste s granitnim kockama, Rondo, najljepše vile..uostalom:
rudnik, fabriku duhana, elektranu, željezničku stanicu, dva gradska mosta preko Neretve (današnji Titov i Lučki most), dva tadašnja hotela (Bristol i Neretvu), Dom zdravlja, gradsku bolnicu, sve zgrade na Glavnoj ulici - sud, katastre, gradsku vjećnicu...
Uostalom, ako si interesant mogu ti poslati jedno vrijedno dijelo o svemu što je AU učinila u Mostaru od 1878. do 1918. Pretvorila ga je iz primitivne turske kasabice nastale oko starog mosta u opjevani grad Šantića, Ćorovića, Đikića i dr., koji je imao onda 4 konzulata.....uči jebo ga ti.

Alfons Kauders wrote:Vego, sta ste vi napravili od 1990 do 2017?

Od tog modernog, opjevanog grada?

breuer wrote:

Alfons Kauders wrote:Vego, sta ste vi napravili od 1990 do 2017?

Od tog modernog, opjevanog grada?

"oni" su samo srušili jebeno svjetsko remek djelo arhitekture, po čemu je grad to što jeste i bez Šantića, konzula, rondoa, Mepasa i ostalih pički materina

reklo bi se, jedan prefinjeni evropski čin