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[seln]

rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Poslije ovoga je kapak, Konesere je prekucala forum.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

Dakle, rasa je (samo kod ljudi) pored bioloskih i socijalni pojam, jer se bazira na fizickim, genetskim itd. znacajkama.
Kod zivotinja je to uvijek i samo bioloski pojam.

[Alfons Kauders]

rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Poslije ovoga je kapak, Konesere je prekucala forum.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

Dakle, rasa je (samo kod ljudi) pored bioloskih i socijalni pojam, jer se bazira na fizickim, genetskim itd. znacajkama.
Kod zivotinja je to uvijek i samo bioloski pojam.

[Connaisseur Karlin]

rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Poslije ovoga je kapak, Konesere je prekucala forum.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

Dakle, rasa je (samo kod ljudi) pored bioloskih i socijalni pojam, jer se bazira na fizickim, genetskim itd. znacajkama.
Kod zivotinja je to uvijek i samo bioloski pojam.

ne postoji bioloska rasa

I

t is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/race

[BHCluster]

rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

ne razumiem, kako samm diskiminirala na osovu boje kaze, ako sma rekla da mi se ne dopada tamnouti ten , mozda neko ne voli ten azijskih naroda, i sad bi trebalo radi takve izjave reci da je diskriminacija

udaljili smo se sa teme, a na kojoj upravo vecina vas prakticira etnicku diskiminaciju

Kada diskrimises nekoga zbog boje koze to je rasizam. A to si ti uradila! A ovo ostalo sto si udrobila se moze nazvati authentic Connaisseur Karlin BULLSHIT.

[wonkaw]

rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

Poslije ovoga je kapak, Konesere je prekucala forum.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics, or social relations

Dakle, rasa je (samo kod ljudi) pored bioloskih i socijalni pojam, jer se bazira na fizickim, genetskim itd. znacajkama.
Kod zivotinja je to uvijek i samo bioloski pojam.

ne postoji bioloska rasa

I

t is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/race

There is indeed a biological basis for race.

Geneticists can now track along an individual’s genome, and assign each segment to an African or European ancestor, an exercise that would be impossible if race did not have some basis in biological reality.

http://time.com/91081/what-science-says ... -genetics/

[Connaisseur Karlin]

rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

ne razumiem, kako samm diskiminirala na osovu boje kaze, ako sma rekla da mi se ne dopada tamnouti ten , mozda neko ne voli ten azijskih naroda, i sad bi trebalo radi takve izjave reci da je diskriminacija

udaljili smo se sa teme, a na kojoj upravo vecina vas prakticira etnicku diskiminaciju

Kada diskrimises nekoga zbog boje koze to je rasizam. A to si ti uradila! A ovo ostalo sto si udrobila se moze nazvati authentic Connaisseur Karlin BULLSHIT.

Kako sam diskiminirala, objasni

[BHCluster]

rasa je socijalni termin, ne bioloski, ne postoje biloske rase

ne razumiem, kako samm diskiminirala na osovu boje kaze, ako sma rekla da mi se ne dopada tamnouti ten , mozda neko ne voli ten azijskih naroda, i sad bi trebalo radi takve izjave reci da je diskriminacija

udaljili smo se sa teme, a na kojoj upravo vecina vas prakticira etnicku diskiminaciju

Kada diskrimises nekoga zbog boje koze to je rasizam. A to si ti uradila! A ovo ostalo sto si udrobila se moze nazvati authentic Connaisseur Karlin BULLSHIT.

Kako sam diskiminirala, objasni

ne volim tamnopute

[Connaisseur Karlin]

ne postoji bioloska rasa

I

t is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/race

There is indeed a biological basis for race.

Geneticists can now track along an individual’s genome, and assign each segment to an African or European ancestor, an exercise that would be impossible if race did not have some basis in biological reality.

http://time.com/91081/what-science-says ... -genetics/

mijesas nauku sa ideologijom:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rac ... 9b57da89ed


jod jedandio mog odgovora u vezi tvog clanka:

the DOE Human Genome Program responded to the need for recognition and study of the potential ethical, legal and social impacts of the science we supported and crafted our program to explore genome-derived societal issues.

Data from many sources have shown that humans are genetically homogeneous and that genetic variation tends to be shared widely among populations. Genetic variation is geographically structured, as expected from the partial isolation of human populations during much of their history. Because traditional concepts of race are in turn correlated with geography, it is inaccurate to state that race is "biologically meaningless.

http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n1 ... g2150.html

a avo kako ljudi reagiraju na istu sociolosku rasu u razlicitim dijjelovima svijeta :

I AM AN African American,” says Duana Fullwiley, “but in parts of Africa, I am white.” To do fieldwork as a medical anthropologist in Senegal, she says, “I take a plane to France, a seven- to eight-hour ride. My race changes as I cross the Atlantic. There, I say, ‘Je suis noire,’ and they say, ‘Oh, okay—métisse—you are mixed.’ Then I fly another six to seven hours to Senegal, and I am white. In the space of a day, I can change from African American, to métisse, to tubaab [Wolof for “white/European”]. This is not a joke, or something to laugh at, or to take lightly. It is the kind of social recognition that even two-year-olds who can barely speak understand. ‘Tubaab,’ they say when they greet me.”

In fact, “There is no genetic basis for race,” says Fullwiley, who has studied the ethical, legal, and social implications of the human genome project with sociologist Troy Duster at UC, Berkeley. She sometimes quotes Richard Lewontin, now professor of biology and Agassiz professor of zoology emeritus, who said much the same thing in 1972, when he discovered that of all human genetic variation (which we now know to be just 0.1 percent of all genetic material), 85 percent occurs within geographically distinct groups, while 15 percent or less occurs between them. The issue today, Fullwiley says, is that many scientists are mining that 15 percent in search of human differences by continent.

nema potrebe da daljle vodimo debatu, otvorite novu temu, jer kosntano pisemo sadrzaj nevezan za temu na pdf politika

[Connaisseur Karlin]

Kada diskrimises nekoga zbog boje koze to je rasizam. A to si ti uradila! A ovo ostalo sto si udrobila se moze nazvati authentic Connaisseur Karlin BULLSHIT.

Kako sam diskiminirala, objasni

ne volim tamnopute

e pa ne moes sjeci dijelove konverzacije

A nisam ni garav, no mozda ti bas takve trazis.

ne volim tamnopute

[BHCluster]

A nisam ni garav, no mozda ti bas takve trazis.

ne volim tamnopute

Samo radi koze, to je rasizam!

[Connaisseur Karlin]

A nisam ni garav, no mozda ti bas takve trazis.

ne volim tamnopute

Samo radi koze, to je rasizam!

nije, jer boju koze nisam upotrijebila kao rasisticki element sa negativnim i diskiminirajucim komentarima pojedine etncike grupe

u mojoj gornjoj izjavi je bila konverzaija o bijelcima koji su tanije puti, a ne o tamnoputim osobama druih etnicih grupa procitaj ranije postove prije moje konverzacije sa LBVIEW

odjavjujem se sa teme, preterali smo

[wonkaw]

ne postoji bioloska rasa

It is crucial to understand and convey the important differences between misconceptions based on ‘biological' assumptions and more accurate ‘social' definitions of "race". Two key points are:

There is no biological foundation to ‘race.' Physical differences between individuals and groups of individuals are genetically /scientifically so minute they are meaningless.
What matters are the social meanings that are attached to perceived physical differences, be these ‘skin colour,' hair colour, height, etc., and the political and economic forces that support (reinforce, and enforce) these perceptions. In other words, ‘race' is a social construction.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/race

There is indeed a biological basis for race.

Geneticists can now track along an individual’s genome, and assign each segment to an African or European ancestor, an exercise that would be impossible if race did not have some basis in biological reality.

http://time.com/91081/what-science-says ... -genetics/

1. - mijesas nauku sa ideologijom:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rac ... 9b57da89ed


jod jedandio mog odgovora u vezi tvog clanka:

the DOE Human Genome Program responded to the need for recognition and study of the potential ethical, legal and social impacts of the science we supported and crafted our program to explore genome-derived societal issues.

Data from many sources have shown that humans are genetically homogeneous and that genetic variation tends to be shared widely among populations. Genetic variation is geographically structured, as expected from the partial isolation of human populations during much of their history. Because traditional concepts of race are in turn correlated with geography, 2. - it is inaccurate to state that race is biologically meaningless.

http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n1 ... g2150.html

a avo kako ljudi reagiraju na istu sociolosku rasu u razlicitim dijjelovima svijeta :

I AM AN African American,” says Duana Fullwiley, “but in parts of Africa, I am white.” To do fieldwork as a medical anthropologist in Senegal, she says, “I take a plane to France, a seven- to eight-hour ride. My race changes as I cross the Atlantic. There, I say, ‘Je suis noire,’ and they say, ‘Oh, okay—métisse—you are mixed.’ Then I fly another six to seven hours to Senegal, and I am white. In the space of a day, I can change from African American, to métisse, to tubaab [Wolof for “white/European”]. This is not a joke, or something to laugh at, or to take lightly. It is the kind of social recognition that even two-year-olds who can barely speak understand. ‘Tubaab,’ they say when they greet me.”

In fact, “There is no genetic basis for race,” says Fullwiley, who has studied the ethical, legal, and social implications of the human genome project with sociologist Troy Duster at UC, Berkeley. She sometimes quotes Richard Lewontin, now professor of biology and Agassiz professor of zoology emeritus, who said much the same thing in 1972, when he discovered that of all human genetic variation (which we now know to be just 0.1 percent of all genetic material), 85 percent occurs within geographically distinct groups, while 15 percent or less occurs between them. The issue today, Fullwiley says, is that many scientists are mining that 15 percent in search of human differences by continent.

nema potrebe da daljle vodimo debatu, otvorite novu temu, jer kosntano pisemo sadrzaj nevezan za temu na pdf politika

nisam placen po postu kao ti, ali da zavrsim sa tobom jednom za sva vremena (ignorisao sam te do donas)...
posto si pravo zadrobila i skroz se sjebala sa svojim navodima samo cu da ti dam koment na ovo sto sam ofarbao sa FF0040

1. nije ideologija vec nauka, i zato valjda nosi naslov "What Science Says About Race And Genetics,,
2. ovo ti kaze upravo ono sto sam i ja tvrdio i sto sam prilozio iz teksta sa linka sa gore spomenutim naslovom, valjda znas sta znaci rijec inaccurate

[Hafis]

Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

[BHCluster]

ne volim tamnopute

Samo radi koze, to je rasizam!

nije, jer boju koze nisam upotrijebila kao rasisticki element sa negativnim i diskiminirajucim komentarima pojedine etncike grupe

u mojoj gornjoj izjavi je bila konverzaija o bijelcima koji su tanije puti, a ne o tamnoputim osobama druih etnicih grupa procitaj ranije postove prije moje konverzacije sa LBVIEW

odjavjujem se sa teme, preterali smo

Naravno da jesi upotrijebila na negativnom i diskiminirajuci nacin.

[Maraschino]

Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

koji kompleksi tito dragi...ccc

[spreca]

Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

koji kompleksi tito dragi...ccc

Ja ipak mislim da je nas Hafis Beg iz ravne Posavine ida je cak mozda blizi rodjak od Ilije i Marka Begica......to bi kolega Alfons Kauders preko svojih veza mogao provjeriti

[Alfons Kauders]

Ja ipak mislim da je nas Hafis Beg iz ravne Posavine ida je cak mozda blizi rodjak od Ilije i Marka Begica......to bi kolega Alfons Kauders preko svojih veza mogao provjeriti

Ogradili su se od njeg ko Rijaset od ISILa

[seln]

Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

Ah! Pripadnik ugnjetavane i prezrene slovenacke nacionalne manjine u Koruskoj?
Windisch, sto bi rekli Austrijanci...
Dakle, stigli ste u Mostar kao izbjeglice?

[Hafis]

Znaci Hafis nam je imigrant? I to iz Slavonije. A toliko price o kavadi, pastrmki iz Neretve, kamenu, vrelim hercegovackim nocima.

Ma kakva Slavonija.
Austrija, Klagenfurt...s time da smo cs iz prezimena 1950. silom zakona u ondašnjoj Jugi morali promijeniti u č.

Ah! Pripadnik ugnjetavane i prezrene slovenacke nacionalne manjine u Koruskoj?
Windisch, sto bi rekli Austrijanci...
Dakle, stigli ste u Mostar kao izbjeglice?

Ma jok. Kakve izbjeglice. Vjerovao ili ne ali moj predak stigao taze oženjen kao A-U kadar u Mostar (imam stvarno vrijednih fotografija Mostara iz tog doba). To je tada bila zaostala jebena turska kasaba i trebalo je napraviti elektranu, rudnik, željeznicu, ceste, trotoare, bolnicu, groblja, sudove, kahvane, pozorište...sve što je ostali pošten svijet imao tada u Europi. Svidio mu se i ostao tu živjeti do kraja svog života. I onda sam poslije dvije generacije stigao i ja na svijet. Uglavnom mehka liberalno-desnocentristička poolitička opcija.

[seln]

To je tada bila zaostala jebena turska kasaba i trebalo je napraviti elektranu, rudnik, željeznicu, ceste, trotoare, bolnicu, groblja, sudove, kahvane, pozorište...sve što je ostali pošten svijet imao tada u Europi.

Pa zasto ne napravise, nego je moralo cekati Tita da bi se napravilo?

[Hafis]

To je tada bila zaostala jebena turska kasaba i trebalo je napraviti elektranu, rudnik, željeznicu, ceste, trotoare, bolnicu, groblja, sudove, kahvane, pozorište...sve što je ostali pošten svijet imao tada u Europi.

Pa zasto ne napravise, nego je moralo cekati Tita da bi se napravilo?

Malo se informiraj bolje.
Austrijanci su napravili modernu jezgru grada, šetališta, ceste s granitnim kockama, Rondo, najljepše vile..uostalom:
rudnik, fabriku duhana, elektranu, željezničku stanicu, dva gradska mosta preko Neretve (današnji Titov i Lučki most), dva tadašnja hotela (Bristol i Neretvu), Dom zdravlja, gradsku bolnicu, sve zgrade na Glavnoj ulici - sud, katastre, gradsku vjećnicu...
Uostalom, ako si interesant mogu ti poslati jedno vrijedno dijelo o svemu što je AU učinila u Mostaru od 1878. do 1918. Pretvorila ga je iz primitivne turske kasabice nastale oko starog mosta u opjevani grad Šantića, Ćorovića, Đikića i dr., koji je imao onda 4 konzulata.....uči jebo ga ti.

[Hafis]

Samo mi sad nemoj o turskim graditeljima i vakuflijama tipa Isak beg Ishaković. To u mene ne prolazi...pristran sam previše

[Alfons Kauders]

To je tada bila zaostala jebena turska kasaba i trebalo je napraviti elektranu, rudnik, željeznicu, ceste, trotoare, bolnicu, groblja, sudove, kahvane, pozorište...sve što je ostali pošten svijet imao tada u Europi.

Pa zasto ne napravise, nego je moralo cekati Tita da bi se napravilo?

Malo se informiraj bolje.
Austrijanci su napravili modernu jezgru grada, šetališta, ceste s granitnim kockama, Rondo, najljepše vile..uostalom:
rudnik, fabriku duhana, elektranu, željezničku stanicu, dva gradska mosta preko Neretve (današnji Titov i Lučki most), dva tadašnja hotela (Bristol i Neretvu), Dom zdravlja, gradsku bolnicu, sve zgrade na Glavnoj ulici - sud, katastre, gradsku vjećnicu...
Uostalom, ako si interesant mogu ti poslati jedno vrijedno dijelo o svemu što je AU učinila u Mostaru od 1878. do 1918. Pretvorila ga je iz primitivne turske kasabice nastale oko starog mosta u opjevani grad Šantića, Ćorovića, Đikića i dr., koji je imao onda 4 konzulata.....uči jebo ga ti.

Vego, sta ste vi napravili od 1990 do 2017?

Od tog modernog, opjevanog grada?

[breuer]

Vego, sta ste vi napravili od 1990 do 2017?

Od tog modernog, opjevanog grada?

"oni" su samo srušili jebeno svjetsko remek djelo arhitekture, po čemu je grad to što jeste i bez Šantića, konzula, rondoa, Mepasa i ostalih pički materina

reklo bi se, jedan prefinjeni evropski čin

[Alfons Kauders]

Vego, sta ste vi napravili od 1990 do 2017?

Od tog modernog, opjevanog grada?

"oni" su samo srušili jebeno svjetsko remek djelo arhitekture, po čemu je grad to što jeste i bez Šantića, konzula, rondoa, Mepasa i ostalih pički materina

reklo bi se, jedan prefinjeni evropski čin

Napravili Mepas... onaj zvonik od 100 metara... turili plus na Hum...

za cetvrt stoljeca, nakon stotina miliona donacija i sadake...