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#8901 Re: Manchester United FC

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Ja cu ga se uvijek ovako sjecati. Ovaj trofej i Fergie su nerazdvojni.

71 godina i jos uvijek mu je svaka pobjeda kao prva u karijeri. Stvarno je fenomen.
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#8902 Re: Manchester United FC

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Igrači sa najviše tačnih pasova u 2012. (Europa):

1. Andrea Pirlo 3688
2. Michael Carrick 3261
3. Xavi 3155
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#8903 Re: Manchester United FC

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The Realist wrote:Igrači sa najviše tačnih pasova u 2012. (Europa):

1. Andrea Pirlo 3688
2. Michael Carrick 3261
3. Xavi 3155
Čuj Carrick drugi. :shock: :-) Znam da je precizan ali da je ovako precizan nisam znao. :D
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#8904 Re: Manchester United FC

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On je uvijek bio podcijenjen i raja se iz nekog mahnitog razloga stalno smije kad ga spomene. Carrick je vrhunski zadnji vezni igrac i odlicno stiti odbranu, kao i sto sjajno povede svaki napad. Cim ima jednog trkaca uz sebe, on procvjeta, jer ima vremana da razgleda i posalje pravi pas. On i Fletcher su strasni bili u periodu 2008-2010. Kad se upari sa Scholesom ili Giggsom, to je onda nocna mora. Oni ne pomazu puno sto se tice pokrivanja terena i zato Carrick stalno ostaje izolovan. Samo obratite paznju kako mu se igra mijenja kako mu Fergie mijenja partnere u sredini.

U zadnjih mjesec dana je bio strasan i vrlo cesto je cijepao protivnicke odbrane preciznim pasom. Mislim da ce uzeti titulu igraca mjeseca, mada je tu Robin ipak favorit.
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#8905 Re: Manchester United FC

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Znaš kako kažu, Carrick razotkriva neznalice :D.

Lik je stvarno fantastičan, ali on ako nema trkača, nikada ne ide naprijed, jer zna da niko nema da ga pokrije. Onog momenta kada ima neko da trči uz njega, on je odmah ofanzivniji, više ide naprijed, više lopti šalje naprijed.... Uglavnom, vjerovatno naš najkonstantniji igrač u zadnjih 5 godina (osim one jedne sezone).
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#8906 Re: Manchester United FC

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Definitivno jedna od najboljih i najvrijednijih investicija u zadnjih 10 godina. Tiha voda brijege valja.
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A kako se raja bila usrala ono ljeto kad Ruud ode, a Fergie samo Carricka dovede. Jos je bilo brdo prica o svađi Ronalda i Rooneya i uveliko se spekulisalo o odlasku ovog prvog. Ispade najbolja sezona (bar meni) u prosloj deceniji. :D
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#8908 Re: Manchester United FC

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Dobro, ona nakon te je ipak nešto bolja bila :D.
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#8909 Re: Manchester United FC

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Nacin na koji su igrali je bilo nesto najbolje od 1999. godine. Tim je bio do zla Boga uzbudljiv za gledati. Jebote Rooney i Ronaldo su imali 21 godinu te sezone. Sto puta je uzbudljivije pratiti tim kad imas takva dva talenta. Ta ekipa je bila nekako divlja, stalno su napadali i odigrali su utakmicu decenije protiv Rome. Ja sam bez daha ispratio ono prvo poluvrijeme. Atomski fudbal. Malo je falilo da osvoje double i te sezone.
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#8910 Re: Manchester United FC

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10 sekundi. A i ovi dresovi su bili perverzija.
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#8911 Re: Manchester United FC

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zlo87 wrote:Na današnji dan prije 71. godinu rođena je jedna od najvećih trenerskih institucija. Vođa, lider, šef, otac poznat po svojoj karizmi i provokativnom stavu sa neizostavnom žvakaćom u ustima.

Sretan 71. rođendan, Sir Alex Ferguson. :thumbup:
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ja od sinoć čekam da ovaj izvuče tortu iz rukava i vino iz pehara, al nema veze, nek je happy :mrgreen:
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#8912 Re: Manchester United FC

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0-2! :dance: :dance:
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Ooo roobbinn ooo roobbbinnn
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Chcha je prorraadioo... Shity nema sanse ove godineee
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#8916 Re: Manchester United FC

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povratnikk wrote:Shity nema sanse ove godineee
Ohani s tim.
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#8917 Re: Manchester United FC

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Trenutno 3:0! Ovo će biti jedna lagana pobjeda!
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#8918 Re: Manchester United FC

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4:0! Deranje guzova!
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#8919 Re: Manchester United FC

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Wigan je bio užasan, nevjerovatno kako loše pokrivaju prostor, nigdje ih. Jako lagana pobjeda, hvala Bogu.

Evra opet jako opasan naprijed, drugi gol majstorija RVP-a, a četvrti fenomenalan presing i uzimanje lopte Welbecka, prije asistencije.

To bi bilo to.

Smalling je trebao crveni za ono dobiti, a za druge sporne odluke ne znam, jer nisu skoro nigdje reprizu davali :? .
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#8920 Re: Manchester United FC

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Odlicno.Bez primljenog gola :thumbup: Malo dosadno na pocetku a kasnije je sve sjelo na svoje mjesto.
Van Persie je genijalan.Hernandez nastavlja zabijati.Dobra partija Evansa,Giggsa,Carricka.
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#8921 Re: Manchester United FC

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Sa ova dva gola se i popravio (Čiča):

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#8922 Re: Manchester United FC

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Nema labavo, drugi clean sheet za redom, bravo momci. Forma se diže u pravom trenutku, pred okršaj sa Madridom.

Samo nastaviti sa uzlaznom putanjom :thumbup:
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#8923 Re: Manchester United FC

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Evo malo za Unitedovce (a ima par zanimljivih stvari vezano za Arsenalovce):
Dugo je, ima puno statistika, ali ima zanimljivih stvari.. jbg ja nemam drugog posla danas :D

[size=10pt]STATS: United’s Season So Far[/size]

Passing

- Paul Scholes has our best passing accuracy, completing 92.5% of all his attempted passes. Only Per Mertesacker and Mikel Arteta have been more accurate this season, both with 92.6%. After Scholes is Rio Ferdinand with 91.3% (7th), then Tom Cleverley with 90.4% (13th).

- Michael Carrick has attempted more passes than anyone else in our team with 1646 (3rd), behind Yaya Toure with 1732 and Mikel Arteta with 1702. Both Toure and Arteta have had more minutes on the pitch that Carrick though, so when comparing pass per minute, Carrick (0.949/min) has a better passing rate than Arteta (0.946/min) and Toure (0.919/min).

- Carrick passes the ball forwards with 35.24% of his passes. When looking at the players in the top 10 for passes completed, Carrick is 3rd, behind David Silva (36.23%) and Ashley Williams (35.85%), but ahead of the likes of Steven Gerrard (35.23%), Joe Allen (31.87%), Toure (30.02%), Santiago Cazorla (28.2%) and Arteta (27.03%).

- Scholes has been accurate with 711 of his 769 passes (92%) with 21% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 81% of his passes in the final third. He has created a total of 8 chances with 1 of those an assist. Anderson has been accurate with 255 of his 279 passes (91%) with 22% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 87% of his final third passes. He has created a total of 5 chances with 1 of those an assist. Cleverley has been accurate with 665 of his 736 passes (90%) with 23% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 83% of his passes in the final third. He has created 9 chances but has 0 assists. Carrick has been accurate with 1455 of his 1646 passes (88%) with 35% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 76% of his passes in the final third. He has created a total of 25 chances with 4 of those assists.

- Most passes completed per game: 1. Scholes completed 135/148 (91%) vs Spurs. 2. Carrick completed 119/134 (89%) vs Aston Villa. 3. Carrick completed 115/126 (91%) vs Southampton. 4. Carrick completed 110/116 (95%) vs West Ham. 5. Carrick completed 98/111 (88%) vs Norwich (88%). 6. Scholes completed 97/106 (92%) vs Aston Villa. 7. Carrick completed 93/108 (86%) vs Spurs. 8. Scholes completed 92/95 (97%) vs Everton.

- Carrick has completed more final third passes than any of our other players (338), followed by Van Persie (231). Anderson and Kagawa have been the most accurate with their final third passes though, completing an impressive 87% of all attempted in this area, followed by Danny Welbeck (86%).
- For comparison: Yaya Toure has completed 495 final third passes, David Silva 460, Eden Hazard 407, Juan Mata 346, Gareth Barry 299, Oscar 222, Kyle Walker 217, Aaron Lennon 213, Mousa Dembélé 176, Sandro 161, John Obi Mikel and Gareth Bale 147,

- Carrick has been accurate with more long ball passes than any of our other players with 133/176 (76%). Anderson has a long ball accuracy rate of 97% (31/32), followed by Fletcher with 94% (17/18) then Kagawa with 92% (12/13).

- Van Persie has passed in to the penalty area more than any of our other players (60), followed by Carrick and Rooney (52).

- Our players have completed 10,033 of an attempted 11,541 passes this season (87%). Manchester City 9910/11497 (86%), Arsenal 9836/11368 (87%), Chelsea 8056/9547 (84%), Tottenham Hotspur 7369/8821 (84%).


Crossing

- Valencia and Van Persie have attempted more crosses than any of our other players this season (99) and have been accurate with 19% and 21% respectively. Van Persie’s 21 completed crosses is the most of any of our players.

- Wingers’ accurate crosses: 1. Young with 23% (16/70), 2. Ryan Giggs with 20% (6/30), 3. Valencia with 19% (19/99), 4. Nani with 15% (6/39).

- Our players have completed 123 of their attempted 572 crosses this season (22%).

- Van Persie has taken 61 corners this season, attempted to deliver 53 directly in to the box, and has been accurate with 14 (26%). Rooney has taken 22, attempted to deliver 18 directly in to the box, and has been accurate with 7 (39%). Young has taken 21, attempted to deliver 17 directly in to the box, and has been accurate with 7 (41%). Nani has taken 12, attempted to deliver 9 directly in to the box, and has been accurate with 2 (22%). Giggs has taken 10, attempted to deliver 8 directly in to the box, and has been accurate with 0.
For comparison: Gareth Bale has accurately delivered 23/54 (43%), corners in to the box, David Silva 18/57 (32%), Juan Mata 9/35 (26%), Kyle Walker 7/25 (28%), Carlos Tevez 6/17 (35%), Eden Hazard 4/37 (11%).

- Our players have been accurate with 31 of the 107 corners they attempted to deliver directly in to the box (29%). City 53/141 (38%).


Goals

- Robin van Persie is the top scorer in the league with 16 goals in 21 games (18 starts), which is 30% of our goals this season. Javier Hernandez is the 8th highest scorer in the league with 8 goals in 13 games (5 starts). Wayne Rooney is the 14th highest scorer in the league with 7 goals in 14 games (12 starts).

- Van Persie averages 3.9 shots per game (3rd) and Rooney averages 3.6 (4th). Luis Suarez averages 6 shots per game (1st).

- Javier Hernandez has the best minutes/goal record in the league this season with a goal, on average, every 84.5 minutes. Robin van Persie has scored, on average, every 112.57 minutes (8th). Of the top ten scorers in the league, only Edin Dzeko (every 88.75 minutes) has a better goal per minutes rate.

- Van Persie has had more shots on target than any of our other players (32) with a shooting accuracy of 51%. Kagawa has had a shooting accuracy of 67%, Scholes with 60%, Hernandez with 59% and Rooney with 56%.

- Alexander Büttner has the best shooting accuracy of every player in the league, with one shot, one goal, and a 100% chance conversion

- Rooney is (joint, with Juan Mata) top of the assist charts in the league with 7, Van Persie is 3rd with 6, Antonio Valencia and Carrick are 15th with 4.

- Van Persie has created more chances than any of our other player (39), followed by Rooney (27) and Carrick (25).

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Defending

- Nemanja Vidic has won 6 of his 7 tackles this season (86%) and 24 of his 34 aerial duals (71%), making a successful challenge every 13.7 minutes. He has successfully cleared 32 of his 52 attempted clearances (62%). Patrice Evra has won 44 of his 52 tackles this season (85%) and 48 of of his 66 aerial duals (73%), making a successful challenge every and 10.2 minutes. He has successfully cleared 68 of his 104 attempted clearances (65%). Phil Jones has won 5 of his 6 tackles this season (83%) and 7 of his 8 aerial duals (88%), making a successful challenge every 11.2 minutes. He has successfully cleared 7 of his 12 attempted clearances (58%). Chris Smalling has won 9 of his 11 tackles this season (82%) and 15 of his 24 aerial duals (63%), making a successful challenge every 15.7 minutes. He has successfully cleared 28 of his 54 attempted clearances (52%). Rio Ferdinand has won 19 of his 25 tackles (76%) and 27 of his 49 aerial duals (55%), making a successful challenge every 16.9 minutes. He has successfully cleared 77 of his 130 attempted clearances (59%). Rafael da Silva has won 40 his 53 tackles this season (75%) and 22 of his 39 aerial duals (56%), making a successful challenge every 9.7 minutes. He has successfully cleared 36 of his 71 attempted clearances (51%). Jonny Evans has won 20 of his 27 tackles this season (74%) and 35 of his 64 aerial duals (55%), making a successful challenge every 12.4 minutes. He has successfully cleared 62 of his 132 attempted clearances (47%).

- Minutes per successful tackle: 1. Rafael (9.7 minutes), 2. Evra (10.2 minutes), 3. Phil Jones (11.2 minutes), 4. Jonny Evans (12.4 minutes), 5. Nemanja Vidic (13.7 minutes), 6. Chris Smalling (15.7 minutes), 7. Ferdinand (16.9 minutes).
- For comparison: Pablo Zabaleta (8.75 minutes), Benoit Assou-Ekotto (12.27 minutes), Branislav Ivanovic (14.12 minutes), Ashley Cole (14.3 minutes), Kyle Walker (14.43 minutes), Vincent Kompany (14.63 minutes), David Luiz (16.16 minutes), Joleon Lescott (17.23 minutes), William Gallas (25.22 minutes),

- Rooney has a successful tackle completion rate of 100%, winning all 12 of his attempted 12 tackles, as does Nick Powell (2/2), Büttner (1/1), and Darren Fletcher (1/1).

- Carrick has won the ball more times in the defensive third than any of our other players (63), followed by Evra (55), Evans (50) and Ferdinand (48).
- For comparison: Vincent Kompany (67), Ashley Cole (59), David Luiz (52), Kieran Gibbs (49), Per Mertesacker (46), Branislav Ivanovic (40), Yaya Toure (38), Ramires (33), Gareth Barry (25).

- Carrick has won the ball more times in the midfield third than any of our other players (81), followed by Evra (42), Valencia (35), Rooney and Cleverley (31).
- For comparison: Mikel Arteta (90), Yaya Toure (69), Santiago Cazorla (67), John Obi Mikel (59), Gareth Barry (52), Juan Mata (41).

- Van Persie has won the ball more times in the attacking third than any of our other players (10), followed by Hernandez, Rooney and Valencia (8).
- For comparison: Santiago Cazorla (15), Carlos Tevez, Juan Mata, Fernando Torres (10), Jermaine Defoe, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Mikel Arteta (7).

- Powell has the best minutes per tackle rate, with a successful tackle every 4.83 minutes he’s been on the pitch.
Malo gledam vezu i ove brojeve. Anderson bi sa brojem pasova koje je imao Scholes imao 15 stvorenih šansi, a da ima pasova kao Carrick imao bi 28,5 stvorenih šansi. Znam da se ne može baš tako računati, ali jeste očito koliko Ando igra direktnije. Isto, procenat uspješnih dugih dodavanja, fantazija.

Također se kod Carricka vidi koliko više šansi stvara ove sezone.

Interesantan je i Cleverley, koji bi imao skro 20 stvorenih šansi da je imao dodavanja kao Carrick, tako da ipak on puno više toga daje, nego što mnogi misle.

Ono što kod Carricka je još veći plus je to da je nekoliko puta ove sezone samo defanzivno igrao, jer nije imao s kim igrati i morao je čuvati leđa, što je definitivno smanjilo broj stvorenih šansi.

Gledam krila i centaršuteve i još kada uzmemo kakva su Valencijina ubacivanja, vidimo koliko smo grozni tu. Primjeti se broj ukradenih lopti od strane Valencie, pogotovo u srednjoj i ofanzivnoj trećini i tu se primjetilo da je dobar, ali zato i nije neke kritike dobijao.

RVP, to je fantazija, ukradene lopte, stvorene šanse, golovi, šut/gol odnos, asistencije, strašno, hvala Bogu, samo da nastavi tako, a i podigne još formu, što mislim da će biti moguće, a.B.d.!

U odbrani me brine skok igra Evansa (mada on redovno čuva najjače protivničke igrače, što me iznenadilo i to stvara probleme, ali jednostavno mora ojačati malo), ali to bi moralo bolje. Rio je također tu lošiji, ali on je stariji i odlazi uskoro, no, ono što me čudi je učinak Vidića. Kada je on uspio sakupiti toliko skokova?

Rafael fantastičan ove sezone, što i statistika potvrđuje (dobro i Evra po njoj ispade sjajan, ali vidimo svi kako igra nazad, što čovjeka još više ljudi, jer ovi brojevi pokazuju da može, ali njemu je jednostavno mrsko ponekad se vratiti nazad i tako nastane većina problema).

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RVP na svaka 2 šuta da gol (ustvari čak i bolje nešto).
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#8924 Re: Manchester United FC

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Fabio igrač utakmice po whoscored.com. Vidim da ga hvale i Unitedovci, koji su meč pratili (što naravno nije baš najobjektivnije), a imao je 5 "tackles" i 6 presječenih lopti.
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#8925 Re: Manchester United FC

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The Realist wrote:Sa ova dva gola se i popravio (Čiča):

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Halalite unitedovci a DIVI dzeke jest da igra za šiti ali dobar
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