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The majority of people in Iraqi Kurdistan think female genital mutilation (FGM) should be eradicated and blame traditional beliefs for its continued practice. In the first survey to investigate attitudes towards FGM in Iraqi Kurdistan, conducted by a coalition of UN agencies and the Kurdish regional government, 68% of people, including religious leaders, said the practice should be eliminated, and almost the same number said it should be banned as a tradition.

Čitalac wrote:Što je najčudnije, većina Kurda u Iraku se protivi tom "običaju", ako je verovati prvom istraživanju na tu temu koje je UN sproveo 2014. godine. Takođe, od 2011. godine FGM je u Kurdistanu zakonom zabranjen, ali se zakon očito ne sprovodi.

The majority of people in Iraqi Kurdistan think female genital mutilation (FGM) should be eradicated and blame traditional beliefs for its continued practice. In the first survey to investigate attitudes towards FGM in Iraqi Kurdistan, conducted by a coalition of UN agencies and the Kurdish regional government, 68% of people, including religious leaders, said the practice should be eliminated, and almost the same number said it should be banned as a tradition.

Čitalac wrote:Što je najčudnije, većina Kurda u Iraku se protivi tom "običaju", ako je verovati prvom istraživanju na tu temu koje je UN sproveo 2014. godine. Takođe, od 2011. godine FGM je u Kurdistanu zakonom zabranjen, ali se zakon očito ne sprovodi.

The majority of people in Iraqi Kurdistan think female genital mutilation (FGM) should be eradicated and blame traditional beliefs for its continued practice. In the first survey to investigate attitudes towards FGM in Iraqi Kurdistan, conducted by a coalition of UN agencies and the Kurdish regional government, 68% of people, including religious leaders, said the practice should be eliminated, and almost the same number said it should be banned as a tradition.

Kikibombona wrote:
Kurdska vlasti ce na kraju morati nametnuti visoke kazne kako bi se ova devijantna pojava utemeljena na safijskoj pravnoj skoli islama iskorijenila.

Kikibombona wrote:Dakle, Salik zna bolje od imama Safija, jednog od najvecih muslimana svih vremena.

Nema razilaženja među učenjacima ovog Ummeta da je sunečenje žene muslimanke propisano, s tim da su se učenjaci podijelili oko toga da li je sunečenje žene vadžib, sunnet ili samo počast ženi. Naime, sunečenje žene se vrši tako što se odsiječe dio klitorisa koji se nalazi na gornjem dijelu ženinog polnog organa. Smisao sunečenja žene je da se uravnoteži ženin spolni nagon. Islamski učenjaci imaju tri mišljenja oko šerijatskog statusa sunečenja žene muslimanke (Nejlul-evtar, Ševkani 1/125).

Prvo mišljenje je da je sunečenje žene vadžib, ovaj stav zastupa imam Šafija i mnogi drugi učenjaci.


Drugo mišljenje je da je sunečenje žene sunnet, na čemu je većina učenjaka a između ostalih Ebu Hanife i Malik.


Treće mišljenje je da je sunečenje žene samo počast, tj. da je dozvoljeno a ne mustehab. Na ovom stavu je između ostalih imam Ahmed kako to prenosi Ibn Kudame (El-Mugni 1/115).

Ima tih hadisa koliko hoces moj Kaligrafija, samo sto moderni muslimani uzimaju one koji se njima svidjaju a odbaju one koji se njima ne svidjaju... To je za mene pohvalno! Islam treba reformisati i izbaciti retrogradne stvari kao sto su uradili krscani i jevreji.

"Kada (muž) legne između njena (ženina) četiri uda i dodirne osunečeni dio (muža) osunečeni dio (žene) obavezno je uzimanje gusula" (Muslim 812). Kaže imam Ahmed: "U ovome je dokaz da su se žene sunetile" (Tuhfetul-mevlud, Ibnul-Kajjim str. 64).

zrakomlat wrote:Čuj Kurdi pale beskorisne iračke pasoše. Pa dobro, koji će im qrz pasoš za ovcama u brdu

Kikibombona wrote:

dragma wrote:Trebao si onda napisati kako je slobodarski svijet (osim nabrojanih) na strani "nezavisnog" Kurdistana pa bi mi možda i bilo logično, mada ima još kontradiktornosti ali helem nejse.
Sve i da je tako, ne mogu a da te ne upitam, na čemu onda zasnivaš tvrdnju da će Kurdistan, kao rezultat volje naroda na referendumu, biti nezavisan ako je Amerika kao njihov glavni zaštitnik i pokrovitelj (kako veliš) protiv toga?

Kada sam napisao 'slobodarski svijet' mislio sam na Zulijana Asanza i ljude slicnog profila. Nista tu nema nelogicno.

Kaligrafija wrote:Fino ti kazem, nema ni jednog jakg hadisa...to ti je, reko Mume, Hami jedno, Hamo Selimu, Selim nije prenio kako treba, doslo do Sefke, Sefko se smatrao kao nepouzdan izvor i hadis je odbacen! Jel jasnije, onako laicki da ti objasnim!? Plemenski obicaji, nikako islam! Ne glumi teologa, oko ovog tikve pucaju vjekovima...Kani se corava posla...

Kikibombona wrote:Kada sam napisao 'slobodarski svijet' mislio sam na Zulijana Asanza i ljude slicnog profila. Nista tu nema nelogicno.

Challenger__ wrote:

Kikibombona wrote:Kada sam napisao 'slobodarski svijet' mislio sam na Zulijana Asanza i ljude slicnog profila. Nista tu nema nelogicno.

Pušiti onu stvar USA i glorifikovati Asanža se ne može. Ili Asanž ili USA politika. Tačka.

Kikibombona wrote:Islam treba reformisati i izbaciti retrogradne stvari kao sto su uradili krscani i jevreji.

Kikibombona wrote:Mi ovdje imamo idolpoklonike Asada, Rusije, Irana i sl.

Kaligrafija wrote:

Kikibombona wrote:Islam treba reformisati i izbaciti retrogradne stvari kao sto su uradili krscani i jevreji.

Prekini vise sa copy/paste neceg o cemu veze nemas... Da procitas stari zavjet i talmud i toru, rekao bi da je islam liberalan, cega tu sve ima...! A novi zavjet su svakako skrojili sami, jer se nisu drzali istinske rijeci i usput se raspali na katolicanstvo i pravoslavlje, pa onda koju hiljadu i kusur godina poslije, Englezi rekli nece nama papa odredjivati, pa na protestante, itd...malo rimljani ubacivali Mitre, mali Izide...ovo valja, ovo ne valja, ovo hocemo, ovo necemo, ovo spali, tako da je to sve korumpirano...a jevreji to sve odbacili, oni vise vole kabalu...a pokrivaju torom i talmudom... Nemoj ti meni tih reformi i prica, pometi ti ispred svog praga, pa dodji onda nama, Ooo reformatoru...!!

Kikibombona wrote:

salik79 wrote:Ne slazemo. Jedan od najvecih alima i sejhova safijske skole, i Islama uopce, 20. i 21. stoljeca, sehid Muhammad Said Ramadan Al-Buti k.s.:

How is female circumcision evaluated in Islamic law?

Answer: Prof. Muhammad Said Ramadan Al-Buti

Legal judgements in Islamic law are handed down either on the basis of the Koran, the authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad - peace and blessings be upon him - or else in accordance with the consensus achieved by the venerable and righteous forebears.

As far as female circumcision is concerned, neither the Koran, nor the Sunnah, nor the consensus of the companions of the Prophet or their successors reveals any evidence to indicate that such a practice would be either obligatory or desirable.

The saying of the Prophet (hadith) which states that “five things are part of the natural disposition of humans […]” and in which circumcision is mentioned, refers to the practice of male circumcision. Proof of this is to be found in the fact that the Prophet did not exhort any of his own daughters to undergo circumcision. Nor did this act find favour with the companions of the Prophet and their successors or become customary amongst them. If the practice of female circumcision had been obligatory or desirable, the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - would have exemplified this custom and ordered the circumcision of his own daughters. It therefore follows that female circumcision is a custom of the Arabian Peninsula, which has already in existed at that time when the Prophet – peace and blessings be upon him – became God’s messenger. The Prophet did not say anything about this custom. It can therefore be stated that an Islamic ruling in this case must relate to the establishment of either necessity or harm. However, medical specialists have already agreed that the circumcision of the female genitals, unlike that of the male member, does not have a benefit at all. On the contrary, the practice poses a grievous risk to women and represents a gross violation of their right to a sexually satisfying and fulfilled married life.

Sejh Buti je Kurd.

Gdje bas njega nadje kada si vec poceo ismijavati Kurde!?

Safijska i hanbelijska pravna skola obrezivanje zene smatraju pod obavezu, a hanefijska i malikijska kao 'preporucenu/pozeljnu'...

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Vecinom se obrezuju zene u islamskim zemljama. Obrezivanje ima snazno utemeljenje u islamu, zato kazem da islam HITNO treba reformisati.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious ... mutilation

E moj Salik, ne idi grlom u jagode!
Ismijavas islam, obrezivanje je dio islamske tradicije, jer se smatra da zena nece imati sklonost seksu prije braka i tako uciniti grijeh!

In the name of God the all merciful

The international conference of scholars concerning a ban on abuse of the female body was held on 1st and 2nd Du al-Qi’dah 1427 of the Hijri, corresponding to the 22nd and 23rd November 2006, in the conference facilities at Al-Azhar University. An array of research work was presented. Once scientists, Islamic scholars, experts and activists from civil rights organisations in Egypt, Europe and Africa had been heard, the following recommendations were issued:

God gave people dignity. In the Qur’an God says: “We have dignified the sons of Adam”. Therefore, God forbids any harm coming to man, irrespective of social status and gender.
Genital circumcision is a deplorable, inherited custom, which is practiced in some societies and is copied by some Muslims in several countries. There are no written grounds for this custom in the Qur’an with regard to an authentic tradition of the Prophet.
The female genital circumcision practiced today harms women psychologically and physically. Therefore, the practice must be stopped in support of one of the highest values of Islam, namely to do no harm to another – in accordance with the commandment of the Prophet Mohammed “Accept no harm and do no harm to another”. Moreover, this is seen as punishable aggression against humankind.
The conference calls on Muslims to end this deplorable custom in accordance with the teachings of Islam, which forbid injuring another in any form.
The participants of the conference also called on international and religious institutions and establishments to concentrate their efforts on educating and instructing the population. This concerns particularly the basic rules of hygienic and medicine, which must be maintained for women so that this deplorable custom is no longer practiced.
The conference reminds the educational establishments and the media that they have an implicit duty to educate about the harm this custom brings and its devastating consequences for society. This will contribute to stopping the custom of mutilating the female body.
The conference calls on the legislative organs to pass a law, which bans the practice of this gruesome custom and declares it a crime, irrespective of whether this concerns the perpetrator or the initiator.
Furthermore, the conference calls on international institutions and organisations to provide help in all regions where this gruesome custom is practiced, which will contribute to its elimination.
Signature:

Professor Ali Gom’a
Grand Mufti of Egypt
24/11/2006