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Krokodajl wrote:Šta u ulozi

Žena ćafir 1/1 vidiš na njoj, svaki dan je kad stoji u redu za hljeb i mlijeko ispred zadruge tuče žemska milicija što mjeri dužinu nikaba

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Inače, Teheran ovako izgleda ako se maknu slike zapadne propagande.
Ko god kaže da ovo nije Teheran laže i plaćen je od šitskih organizacija tako da pazite šta pišete

insomnia78 wrote: Cekaj, ovo je ona sto se morala izvinjavati naciji kad je u Kanu poljubila onog dedu u obraz?

Kikibombona wrote:

salik79 wrote:
Kolika je vjerovatnoca da neka od ovih zena jos uvijek ima klitoris? Mozda ih Mesketovi zato smatraju ravnopravnim?



Dole nametnuti klitorisi! Bez klitorisa do slobode!

Te pojave su minorne kod sirijskih Kurda.

Da li se slazemo da treba zakonom zabraniti safijski mezheb koji obrezivanje zene tretira kao obavezu!??

How is female circumcision evaluated in Islamic law?

Answer: Prof. Muhammad Said Ramadan Al-Buti

Legal judgements in Islamic law are handed down either on the basis of the Koran, the authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad - peace and blessings be upon him - or else in accordance with the consensus achieved by the venerable and righteous forebears.

As far as female circumcision is concerned, neither the Koran, nor the Sunnah, nor the consensus of the companions of the Prophet or their successors reveals any evidence to indicate that such a practice would be either obligatory or desirable.

The saying of the Prophet (hadith) which states that “five things are part of the natural disposition of humans […]” and in which circumcision is mentioned, refers to the practice of male circumcision. Proof of this is to be found in the fact that the Prophet did not exhort any of his own daughters to undergo circumcision. Nor did this act find favour with the companions of the Prophet and their successors or become customary amongst them. If the practice of female circumcision had been obligatory or desirable, the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - would have exemplified this custom and ordered the circumcision of his own daughters. It therefore follows that female circumcision is a custom of the Arabian Peninsula, which has already in existed at that time when the Prophet – peace and blessings be upon him – became God’s messenger. The Prophet did not say anything about this custom. It can therefore be stated that an Islamic ruling in this case must relate to the establishment of either necessity or harm. However, medical specialists have already agreed that the circumcision of the female genitals, unlike that of the male member, does not have a benefit at all. On the contrary, the practice poses a grievous risk to women and represents a gross violation of their right to a sexually satisfying and fulfilled married life.

insomnia78 wrote:Studenti su vazda bili primjer

Kikibombona wrote:

Challenger__ wrote:
Čista avangarda.

Nemoj se smijati - to je islam.

Procitaj nesto.

Kaligrafija wrote:
To nije islam, procitaj ti nesto i ne lazi! Nema jakih hadisa, koji to dokazuju! To su plemenski obicaji, koji su preuzeti od Egipcana i nekih africkih plemena starog vremena! Svi nasi teolozi se slazu u pogledu toga, da to veze nema sa islamom...vec da su to zaostali plemenski obicaji koji su se prenijeli!!

salik79 wrote:Ne slazemo. Jedan od najvecih alima i sejhova safijske skole, i Islama uopce, 20. i 21. stoljeca, sehid Muhammad Said Ramadan Al-Buti k.s.:

How is female circumcision evaluated in Islamic law?

Answer: Prof. Muhammad Said Ramadan Al-Buti

Legal judgements in Islamic law are handed down either on the basis of the Koran, the authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad - peace and blessings be upon him - or else in accordance with the consensus achieved by the venerable and righteous forebears.

As far as female circumcision is concerned, neither the Koran, nor the Sunnah, nor the consensus of the companions of the Prophet or their successors reveals any evidence to indicate that such a practice would be either obligatory or desirable.

The saying of the Prophet (hadith) which states that “five things are part of the natural disposition of humans […]” and in which circumcision is mentioned, refers to the practice of male circumcision. Proof of this is to be found in the fact that the Prophet did not exhort any of his own daughters to undergo circumcision. Nor did this act find favour with the companions of the Prophet and their successors or become customary amongst them. If the practice of female circumcision had been obligatory or desirable, the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - would have exemplified this custom and ordered the circumcision of his own daughters. It therefore follows that female circumcision is a custom of the Arabian Peninsula, which has already in existed at that time when the Prophet – peace and blessings be upon him – became God’s messenger. The Prophet did not say anything about this custom. It can therefore be stated that an Islamic ruling in this case must relate to the establishment of either necessity or harm. However, medical specialists have already agreed that the circumcision of the female genitals, unlike that of the male member, does not have a benefit at all. On the contrary, the practice poses a grievous risk to women and represents a gross violation of their right to a sexually satisfying and fulfilled married life.

Kikibombona wrote:

salik79 wrote:Ne slazemo. Jedan od najvecih alima i sejhova safijske skole, i Islama uopce, 20. i 21. stoljeca, sehid Muhammad Said Ramadan Al-Buti k.s.:

How is female circumcision evaluated in Islamic law?

Answer: Prof. Muhammad Said Ramadan Al-Buti

Legal judgements in Islamic law are handed down either on the basis of the Koran, the authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad - peace and blessings be upon him - or else in accordance with the consensus achieved by the venerable and righteous forebears.

As far as female circumcision is concerned, neither the Koran, nor the Sunnah, nor the consensus of the companions of the Prophet or their successors reveals any evidence to indicate that such a practice would be either obligatory or desirable.

The saying of the Prophet (hadith) which states that “five things are part of the natural disposition of humans […]” and in which circumcision is mentioned, refers to the practice of male circumcision. Proof of this is to be found in the fact that the Prophet did not exhort any of his own daughters to undergo circumcision. Nor did this act find favour with the companions of the Prophet and their successors or become customary amongst them. If the practice of female circumcision had been obligatory or desirable, the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - would have exemplified this custom and ordered the circumcision of his own daughters. It therefore follows that female circumcision is a custom of the Arabian Peninsula, which has already in existed at that time when the Prophet – peace and blessings be upon him – became God’s messenger. The Prophet did not say anything about this custom. It can therefore be stated that an Islamic ruling in this case must relate to the establishment of either necessity or harm. However, medical specialists have already agreed that the circumcision of the female genitals, unlike that of the male member, does not have a benefit at all. On the contrary, the practice poses a grievous risk to women and represents a gross violation of their right to a sexually satisfying and fulfilled married life.

Sejh Buti je Kurd.

Gdje bas njega nadje kada si vec poceo ismijavati Kurde!?

Safijska i hanbelijska pravna skola obrezivanje zene smatraju pod obavezu, a hanefijska i malikijska kao 'preporucenu/pozeljnu'...

Pogledaj Egipat, 90% zena obrezano.

Vecinom se obrezuju zene u islamskim zemljama. Obrezivanje ima snazno utemeljenje u islamu, zato kazem da islam HITNO treba reformisati.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious ... mutilation

E moj Salik, ne idi grlom u jagode!
Ismijavas islam, obrezivanje je dio islamske tradicije, jer se smatra da zena nece imati sklonost seksu prije braka i tako uciniti grijeh!

fosna2014 wrote:Patak javlja da je Nusra izgubila u napadu na sjeveru Hame prekjuce ca. 300 vojnika.

Challenger__ wrote:Rusi tvrde i više.

Ruske zračne snage eliminirale su najmanje 850 militanata u 24 sata u velikom udaru na njihove položaje u provinciji Idlib

Kako ističe rusko ministarstvo obrane, ruske zračne snage su tijekom zadnjih 24 sata ubili najmanje 850 militanata na prostoru provincije Idlib iako je na ovom prostoru proglašena de-eskalacijska zona. No, žestoki udar desio se nakon što su Al-Nusra Front teroristi pokrenuli napad na sirijsku vojsku u susjednoj provinciji Hama.

U izvještaju ruskog ministarstva obrane također se navodi kako je pritom uništeno 11 tenkova.

Podsjetimo, ruska strana optužila je SAD da su "orkestrirali" napad terorista na sirijsku vojsku kako bi omeli operaciju sirijske vojske na istoku zemlje.

dragma wrote:The Russian Special Operations Forces were de-blocking a platoon of Russian military police encircled by militants in the Idlib de-escalation zone during the Hayat Tahrlr al-Sham advance in northern Hama.

zrakomlat wrote:Čuj Kurdi pale beskorisne iračke pasoše. Pa dobro, koji će im qrz pasoš za ovcama u brdu

Kaligrafija wrote:Ne lazi, opet kazem, nije dio islamske, vec plemenske tradicije, koja vuce korijene daleko prije Islama...Nema jakog hadisa koji ide u prilog tome...! I nije ni farz, ni sunnet, ni nista...nemoj mi vehabijske skole! Pitaj nasu islamsku zajednicu i nase teologe, sta se kaze o tome!?! Posto ovi tvoji akrepi su najveci cobani, tj. plemena, nije ni cudo sto je najveci postotak tamo kod njih...!!!

U Hanefijskoj školi postoje dva mišljenja. Neki Hanefijski učenjaci smatraju da je to sunnet za ženu. Drugi smatraju da se to samo smatra pohvalnim djelom. [ pogledajte: el-Fetawa el-Hindijeh i el-Ihtijar li-Tahlil el-Muhtar ]
Učenjaci Malikijske pravne škole smatraju to preporučenom radnjom za žene. Oslanjaju se na hadis od Ummu’Atijeh. [pogledajte: Bulgheh el-Salik li-Akrab el-Mesalik i Ashel el-Medarik Šarh Iršad el-Salik ]
Uša’fijskoj pravnoj školi, obrezivanje je smatrano obaveznim i za muškarce i za žene. Ovo je službeno pravilo u ovoj pravnoj školi. Neki Ša’fijski učenjaci su stava da je obrezivanje obavezno za muškarce a samo sunnet za žene. [ pogledajte: el-Medžmu ]

U Hanbelijskoj pravnoj školi, obrezivanje je smatrano obaveznim za muškarce, a za žene samo pohvalno djelo. Nije obavezno za žene. Hanbelijski učenjak Ibn Kudameh opaža: „ Ovo je stav velikog broja učenjaka. Imam Ahmed je rekao da je ovo više obavezno za muškarce.“ [ el-Mughni (1/115)]
Među suvremenim pravnim učenjacima, el-Sejid Sakim piše: „ Hadisi koji govore o obrezivanju žena su slabi, niti jedan među njima nije autentičan.“

1. „Obrezivanje je Sunnet za muškarće u pohvaljujuće za žene.“ [ Musned Ahmed (19794)]
Ibn Hadžer el-Eskalani govori u ovom hadisu u el-Talhis el-Habir (4/1407). Ahmed i el-Bejheki prenose ovaj hadis od el-Hadždžadža b. Erta’aha koji ga prenosi od Ebu el-Mulejha a on od Usameha svog oca.

2. Prenosi se da je Poslanik ( Sallallahu ‘alejhi ve sellem ) prošao pored žene koja je obrezivala malu djevojčicu. Uputio je ženu govoreći: „ Podreži, ali ne puno. jer to je svijetlije za lice ( od djevojčice ) i omiljenije mužu.“ [ el-Mu’džem el-Teberani el-Evset ]

Krokodajl wrote:Ne treba ovde trpati Vehabije, i Vehabije se protive ovome.

Nema razilaženja među učenjacima ovog Ummeta da je sunečenje žene muslimanke propisano, s tim da su se učenjaci podijelili oko toga da li je sunečenje žene vadžib, sunnet ili samo počast ženi. Naime, sunečenje žene se vrši tako što se odsiječe dio klitorisa koji se nalazi na gornjem dijelu ženinog polnog organa. Smisao sunečenja žene je da se uravnoteži ženin spolni nagon. Islamski učenjaci imaju tri mišljenja oko šerijatskog statusa sunečenja žene muslimanke (Nejlul-evtar, Ševkani 1/125).

Prvo mišljenje je da je sunečenje žene vadžib, ovaj stav zastupa imam Šafija i mnogi drugi učenjaci.


Drugo mišljenje je da je sunečenje žene sunnet, na čemu je većina učenjaka a između ostalih Ebu Hanife i Malik.


Treće mišljenje je da je sunečenje žene samo počast, tj. da je dozvoljeno a ne mustehab. Na ovom stavu je između ostalih imam Ahmed kako to prenosi Ibn Kudame (El-Mugni 1/115).

"Kada (muž) legne između njena (ženina) četiri uda i dodirne osunečeni dio (muža) osunečeni dio (žene) obavezno je uzimanje gusula" (Muslim 812). Kaže imam Ahmed: "U ovome je dokaz da su se žene sunetile" (Tuhfetul-mevlud, Ibnul-Kajjim str. 64).

Challenger__ wrote:

fosna2014 wrote:Patak javlja da je Nusra izgubila u napadu na sjeveru Hame prekjuce ca. 300 vojnika.

...850...
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Ukratko, kataklizma.

Krokodajl wrote:Pa eto mi smo izbacili, izbacili su i Iračani po onoj karti, izbacili su i Turci a koliko znam i Iranci, al jok, nemreš Kurda natjerat da prestane pa to zapelo i zapelo

Krokodajl wrote:Pa eto mi smo izbacili, izbacili su i Iračani po onoj karti, izbacili su i Turci a koliko znam i Iranci, al jok, nemreš Kurda natjerat da prestane pa to zapelo i zapelo