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#83751 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:48
by GandalfSivi
tindbe wrote: 06/05/2022 13:44 Jel ono bi na twitteru, da su genijalci pričali o taktičkom potapanju Moskve i hvalili to kao veliku pobjedu Rusije? Ipak je "Moskva" bila stari brod, kažu, za staro željezo.
Šta će za ovog omladinca reć onda. Mora da će njime zablokirati put NATO podmornicama do Odese. :izet:
Blokirati put NATO delfinima, jer su vec unistili sve podmornice…

#83752 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:50
by sumirprimus
ma budalastine , i ispuni mi zelju fazoni.
moskva je potvrdjena i ovom ako se sta desilo nece moci sakriti.
kako su krenuli njima na kraju nece ni trebati luka na krimu hehe

#83753 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:50
by Vedoo
irac300 wrote: 05/05/2022 21:45
lajkujMe wrote: 05/05/2022 21:06 Pardon, jeste Juni prenijelo me :lol:

Jesam li to nekome na Foe, mora da je rusofil e onda neka sam, ponosan sam :bih:
Ma nije lik rusofil, ali se nafur'o da je nekome bitno ako ga on stavi na foe. Očito ne čita tvoje komentare. Da nema tebe i sumira, ne bih ni ulazio na ovu temu. :mrgreen:
+1 Sumi i Lajk prva linija odbrane. Jedan drži prema Luganjsku, drugi prema Donjetsku. ;-)

#83754 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:51
by BiBi911
GandalfSivi wrote: 06/05/2022 13:48
tindbe wrote: 06/05/2022 13:44 Jel ono bi na twitteru, da su genijalci pričali o taktičkom potapanju Moskve i hvalili to kao veliku pobjedu Rusije? Ipak je "Moskva" bila stari brod, kažu, za staro željezo.
Šta će za ovog omladinca reć onda. Mora da će njime zablokirati put NATO podmornicama do Odese. :izet:
Blokirati put NATO delfinima, jer su vec unistili sve podmornice…
A oni njihovi delfini, Jesu to prebjegli na NATo stranu. Politicki azil za Delfine il to ne postoji.

Jesu li delfini ko pujde kada te zaganjaju bacis kosku I stanu il to kod delfina drugacije funkcionise

#83755 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:51
by Gandalf
Potonućem Makarova biće blokirano još 12 Nato podmornica. Na jednoj je Sam Fisher lično dok drugom upravlja Tom Clancy, kakva se samo Nato mraka skupila na tim podmornicama. Ali nema veze, 12 po 12 podmornica, nabere se.

#83756 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:52
by lajkujMe
sumirprimus wrote: 06/05/2022 13:50 ma budalastine , i ispuni mi zelju fazoni.
moskva je potvrdjena i ovom ako se sta desilo nece moci sakriti.
kako su krenuli njima na kraju nece ni trebati luka na krimu hehe
Probace nesto izmisliti, jedva cekam da vidim tu budalastinu :lol:

Jos je Bayraktar u blizini to je potvrdjeno.
Za razliku od Moskve ovdje ocekujem video :lol:

#83757 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:53
by Project Lucian
player_ wrote: 06/05/2022 13:01 Amerikanci uzivaju u ovom ratu ocito i jedini ce biti pobjednici :D
Salju informacije ,naoruzanje ,taktike a ne gube svoje vojnike i plus bonus rokaju ruse :mrgreen:
Pa niko nije tjerao ruse da se igraju rata sa ukrajincima.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#83758 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:56
by Ima Bosne_Bice Bosne
lajkujMe wrote: 06/05/2022 13:08 Ameri se valjaju po podu od smijeha eto sta rade.
Ovakav zicer ni na lutriji ne mozes dobiti :lol:
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Nego citam sad malo i Makarovu.
Moderna frigata s puno puno boljom PVO odbranom za brod od Moskve koja je ipak vise bila za aerial denial.
Iako nema dalekometne projektile kao Moskva ipak mu je odbrana samog broda veoma jaka.
Uz moderne radare posjeduje za odbranu BUK mornaricka verzija, Igla-S i 2 CIWS topa za point to point defense.

Po karakteristikama trebao se odbraniti od Neptuna al nije :lol:
Ameri su svojim nekim, po procjeni Kremlja, losim izborima i potezima navukli Ruse da krenu u ovu gubitnicku avantururu u Ukrajini. :wink:

#83759 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:57
by lajkujMe
Premijer Ukrajine izjavio da zapadne obavjestajne sluzbe ocekuju proglasenje rata od Rusa za 9 maj.

On kaze "vidjecemo"

#83760 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:58
by Haris.ba
Hoce sta ostat Rusima u Crnom moru za isplovit iz luke?

#83761 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:58
by moa
:bih:
player_ wrote: 06/05/2022 13:01 Amerikanci uzivaju u ovom ratu ocito i jedini ce biti pobjednici :D
Salju informacije ,naoruzanje ,taktike a ne gube svoje vojnike i plus bonus rokaju ruse :mrgreen:
Ma rusi su obicno mudo i nisu dio ovog Zapadnog svijeta. Jad, bijeda, cemer, divljaci..

#83762 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:07
by sumirprimus

ajmo malo treda o necijem bogatom iskustvu vezano za gadjanje nepriajteljske sile...

izdvojeno...

When conducting "targeting," there are three important elements to consider:
1). The collection of important intelligence
2). The "boarding" of the target (how to hit, where to hit, when to hit, defenses, etc.)
3). The enemy's ability to avoid being hit. 2/

Collection of intelligence comes in many ways:
-Overhead satellite imagery
-Collection of electronic signals
-Collection of human intelligence information
-"Patterns of life/movement"
-Enemy ability to defend itself

Many countries do intel collection & the US is great at it. 3 ovo!

After collecting the intel, it's passed to the decision maker.

In a US headquarters, the intel folks pass to the commander and his staff, and they "board" the target:

What is the value of the target? Can it be hit? Where & with what? Do we strike now, or later? Etc.4/

Then, the "enemy" plays a role.

Are they vulnerable. What's the "value" of the target? Do they have OPSEC (operation security)? Can they be fooled? Are they in the right location for a strike, or can they be drawn there? Etc... 5/

So now there are three questions:
-Did the US Collect intel on/against the Russians?
If we didn't, we'd be derelict in our duties, as we collect intel of all nations during war.
-Did we pass it to the UA? Likely yes. Gen Milley has said "the pipes are open." 6/
What kind of intel was it?
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Perhaps location of ships in the Black Sea. Perhaps location of command posts? Perhaps troop movement?

Those are valuable pieces of intelligence. 7/

Now, part 2. Did Ukraine first consider and use that information.

If they didn't, they'd also be derelict in their duties.

This is what's called "free chicken."
But also, part of "using" intel in targeting is developing a plan for attack.

The strike of unit command posts or ships in the Black Sea through various methods requires damned good military actions.

The UA has shown that capacity in spades. 9/
But then there's the final piece: Was the enemy vulnerable? Did they practice OPSEC? Were they "fooled?"

All of these things proved to be true.
-A blue water ship steaming close to shore, and allowing it's air defense systems to be "spoofed." 10/
-A command post - likely with a lot of senior officers - within artillery range and too close to the front, with little ability to protect itself.
-A lot of hubris, thinking they can do things without force protection and operation security. 11/

A summary:
Did we pass intelligence? Likely, yes
Did Ukraine us it to their advantage and with skill? Also, likely yes.
Did Russia do a few dumb things to put their army/navy at risk? Only they can answer that. 12/12

#83763 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:08
by sumirprimus
He bombed Ukraine for $ 2,000, admits a Russian Su-35 pilot shot down near Izium.

A video of a conversation with a captured pilot from Russia - the commander of the aviation unit Sergei Malov from Petrozavodsk has appeared.

#83764 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:09
by ketronsd1
https://www.expressen.se/tv/nyheter/har ... t-om-kiev/
Neznam moze li video van Swe.
Zanimljiva prica. Cini mi se da je CNN snimao.

#83765 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:10
by Gandalf
sumirprimus wrote: 06/05/2022 14:08 He bombed Ukraine for $ 2,000, admits a Russian Su-35 pilot shot down near Izium.

A video of a conversation with a captured pilot from Russia - the commander of the aviation unit Sergei Malov from Petrozavodsk has appeared.
Tipična zločinačka faca, nešto ala legija i legiji sličan nakot

#83766 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:12
by lajkujMe


Prva potvrda da je SwitchBlade 300 u akciji

#83767 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:15
by lajkujMe
Upravo vidjeh clanak gdje Poljoprivrednici traze skupljaju i odvoze tijela Ruskih vojnika i kopaju u masovne grobnice u Chernijevu.
Necu postaviti sliku poprilicno je grotesno.
U prikolicama ih odvoze :run:

#83768 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:20
by sumirprimus
lajkujMe wrote: 06/05/2022 14:12

Prva potvrda da je SwitchBlade 300 u akciji
jel ovo blejd ima kakve veze s ovim blejdovima i onim sto su p siriji bacali? :skoljka: :run:

#83769 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:22
by Seyfo
Vala ne bih bio u koži Dodiku i Vučiću ovih dana.
Kako li se hvataju za glavu kad vide clipove koji se pojavljuju na ovoj i sličnim temama...

#83770 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:23
by sumirprimus
vala fale ovde haropi sa onim štuka zvucima. :skoljka:

#83771 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:26
by sumirprimus


realno sta je ovde detoniralo?

#83772 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:27
by lajkujMe


Rusi koriste staru snimku da demantuju potapanje :lol:

Vec krenule lazi i obmane

#83773 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:27
by sumirprimus


bub sonnenblume

#83774 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:27
by eltroxin
90minut wrote: 06/05/2022 12:02 Kome ti šuplje bacaš plakao po Dodikovoj temi da ces se ispaliti da ne vrijedi ratovati za ovo da nisi lud da to radiš sad odjednom ratnik postao.
Mali
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#83775 Re: Ukrajina

Posted: 06/05/2022 14:37
by Project Lucian
Izgleda da je tačno:
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